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post #5851 of 13474
Hey guys, Just wanted to let you know I just purchased the 65 inch VT50 from Paul's TV! I am excited. My friend also has this set as well as the Pioneer Kuro. Just thought I'd drop in and say hello to everyone! I'm going to have it ISF calibrated by a local guy we know that does it around state.
post #5852 of 13474
Topper, how about posting your settings preceded by something along the lines of the following:

The following settings have been derived from multiple sources and techniques, which may be both technical and non-technical in nature, the result of which are not intended in any way to represent that which can be accomplished by a professionally performed calibration. The combination of sources and techniques have created a visual picture that should not be used as a standard or objective reference point to or for any other settings; the result was generated from adjustments to satisfy my own personal, subjective preferences, taking into account my specific TV and the conditions in which it operates. As all TVs and operating conditions are different, the results of these particular settings will differ, perhaps quite significantly. In short, the following settings should not be viewed as, or compared to, calibrated settings. They simply create a result that looks appropriate to me in my sole, subjective opinion.

Topper, if you still choose to not re-post your latest settings, I would appreciate it if you PM'd them to me. Thanks.
post #5853 of 13474
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Originally Posted by ChickenFried View Post

I really appreciate this forum. I have been doing a lot of research before I pulled the trigger on a VT50. I should have it some time next week. I can't wait.
I just want to thank everyone. I did go through all of the trouble to create an account just so I could say thanks and less importantly to ask Tempest to please STFU. You and a few others have made navigating through this thread much more difficult than it needs to be. If you were an adult, you would have initiated the first PM rather than satisfy your your huge ego and need to get the last word in.
Anyway, I will post my impressions once I get everything set up or maybe I won't. This thread kind of scares me to be honest. This will be my first plasma, so I am a little nervous.

Please don't let anyone here scare you, there's really no reason to be afraid. Also, your little message to Tempest seems to indicate that you'll have no problem blending right in. wink.gif
post #5854 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Dukecat View Post

Topper, how about posting your settings preceded by something along the lines of the following:
The following settings have been derived from multiple sources and techniques, which may be both technical and non-technical in nature, the result of which are not intended in any way to represent that which can be accomplished by a professionally performed calibration. The combination of sources and techniques have created a visual picture that should not be used as a standard or objective reference point to or for any other settings; the result was generated from adjustments to satisfy my own personal, subjective preferences, taking into account my specific TV and the conditions in which it operates. As all TVs and operating conditions are different, the results of these particular settings will differ, perhaps quite significantly. In short, the following settings should not be viewed as, or compared to, calibrated settings. They simply create a result that looks appropriate to me in my sole, subjective opinion.

Excellent suggestion.
post #5855 of 13474
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

Please don't let anyone here scare you, there's really no reason to be afraid. Also, your little message to Tempest seems to indicate that you'll have no problem blending right in. wink.gif

LoL, thanks buddy smile.gif
post #5856 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Michael2000 View Post

This sounds like an analog ground loop. Does your cable box have a ground prong? I would also check your wall power outlet, too, to be sure the polarity and gounding are correct. You can get an inexpensive tester at most electronics and hardware stores. They have three test lights. Two will light when everything is good.
Michael

Thanks a lot! I don't know much about electronics but I googled ground loop and this seems to be my problem. I have everything plugged into one powerstrip. Could this be causing the probem?
I also found this on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/VSIS-EU-Cable-Ground-Loop-Isolator/dp/B0017I3K9M/ref=lh_ni_t

Is this what I need to solve this problem?
post #5857 of 13474
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Originally Posted by adeelz View Post

Thanks a lot! I don't know much about electronics but I googled ground loop and this seems to be my problem. I have everything plugged into one powerstrip. Could this be causing the probem?
I also found this on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/VSIS-EU-Cable-Ground-Loop-Isolator/dp/B0017I3K9M/ref=lh_ni_t
Is this what I need to solve this problem?

It does sound like a ground loop. It may be caused by poor or no ground on your cable connection. To test it out, physically unplug the coax from your cable box inside your house or better yet, unplug the coax from the main lead into the house and see if the gray lines go away. If they do, then you have a bad cable ground. To fix it, call your cable provider and have them come out and fix the coax ground.
post #5858 of 13474
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Originally Posted by wmwilker View Post

I don't know because I only use the ISF Day & Night and sometimes Custom. My set was calibrated before the firmware update and when I did the update I could see a change in the picture. It really wasn't worse but it was different.
When I re-calibrated I did a full reset of the TV so I don't know what the difference was after the firmware update.
I would imagine that the THX presets would not get messed up but I don't know that for sure.

I dont see ISF day/night as options in my menu

where do I find it?
post #5859 of 13474
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Originally Posted by billmich View Post

I dont see ISF day/night as options in my menu
where do I find it?

These can be unlocked with Turbe's ControlCal software, and/or with calibration software. If you don't intend on buying a meter, then ControlCal is the cheapest, most effective option to go with. It lets you interface with all of the controls via a laptop. If you do plan on buying a meter to calibrate, I'd recommend both ControlCal and CalMan DIY.

http://www.controlcal.com/
http://store.spectracal.com/
post #5860 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Tempest261 View Post

These can be unlocked with Turbe's ControlCal software, and/or with calibration software. If you don't intend on buying a meter, then ControlCal is the cheapest, most effective option to go with. It lets you interface with all of the controls via a laptop. If you do plan on buying a meter to calibrate, I'd recommend both ControlCal and CalMan DIY.
http://www.controlcal.com/
http://store.spectracal.com/

thank you tempest, what about if I plan on having some one come out and professionally calibrate it, will i want to make sure they have certain equipment to unlock these features?
post #5861 of 13474
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Originally Posted by LILBZ3 View Post

I need your guys' help!!!
I know it's a GT50 but these series have the same features maybe you would know what the problem is or can give me a link to where I can spread this around? I want answers sooon. Thanks guys. Watch the video!!!
TC-P55GT50
I just got this Plasma, and I'm worried about this problem I'm having. Perhaps its just the display settings on my PS3? Im at a loss. Its ONLY when I pop in a movie, SOMETIMES the blacks have flickering pixels all throughout the panel in most parts of the movies, like the letterbox bars. Like I show, the problem doesn't exist in the PS3 menu. Do you think it has something to do with the features of the GT50? Perhaps its only happening when a dvd/bluray is playing? Netflix looks great, better blacks than a bluray because of this problem causing the blurays blacks to lack clarity and depth. Please help!!!
Watch it in HD, you'll see what my problem is.
http://youtu.be/xI-rWEibRpE?hd=1

Hi,

What you're seeing is temporal dithering. It's an inherent part of plasma technology; the display is unable to natively produce all the possible color gradients, so dithering is used to trick the eyes into seeing more colors. You shouldn't be able to see it from a normal viewing distance.

That being said, if dithering occurs, it means it's not actually displaying black. And letterbox bars are supposed to be black. As others have suggested, you need to get your black levels calibrated so dithering does not occur in those bars. Based on the video you linked, reducing the brightness by 1 or 2 should completely eliminate the dithering.
post #5862 of 13474
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Originally Posted by billmich View Post

thank you tempest, what about if I plan on having some one come out and professionally calibrate it, will i want to make sure they have certain equipment to unlock these features?
I know Chad B has everything you need and he services your area.....
post #5863 of 13474
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Originally Posted by billmich View Post

thank you tempest, what about if I plan on having some one come out and professionally calibrate it, will i want to make sure they have certain equipment to unlock these features?

Any reputable calibrator should have what you need. As Cleveland Plasma stated, ChadB would be an excellent choice, if he's able to come out to where you are.

Also, the calibrator would probably check for this, but make sure to have the TV's firmware updated BEFORE the calibration. The most recent firmware update affected the picture, albeit slightly. Also, I would recommend to have the calibration done after you've used the TV for ~100-200 hours.
post #5864 of 13474
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Originally Posted by SiGGy View Post

This years TVs do have a slow refresh drive system to achieve the darker blacks. What you can see is a scan line scrolling on any area that is black. However I doubt this is what you're noticing.
Looks like normal PWM noise to me.
The brightness control (black level) generally needs to be calibrated per device! What happens when you turn down the brightness control a few clicks while looking at the black bars in the movie? Do the speckles go away?
Before you even continue posting on here about this. Go calibrate your black levels using the PS3's BR player.
Download this and burn it to DVD put it in your PS3.
http://content.wuala.com/contents/alluringreality/Public/AVCHD-2d.exe/?dl=1
Go into the basic patterns and do the black clipping adjustment. I highly recommend you watch the tutorial on the disc before you adjust it, it will explain how to adjust it correctly.
Is the disc that you are showing in the example movie you made an original disc? If it's copied/re-encoded all bets are off. Try a normal store bought BR disc if this is the case.
You might want to ask this question on the PS3 forum, to see if there are any BR playback settings that need to be adjusted. It's possible BR playback is using a different video mode... I'm not fam. with the PS3. Hopefully someone who is chimes in smile.gif

You're a genius. Although I have noticed the scrolling bars (not a big deal) I did find out it was the brightness. I will take your advise and calibrate the blacks, I just thought I was supposed to wait 100 hours. Also, it was a store bought BR, I no longer have this problem, I'm stoked. It looks a lot better. Cant wait to calibrate. Thanks!
post #5865 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Tempest261 View Post

LoL, thanks buddy smile.gif

Hey, it wasn't meant as a dig at you. redface.gif

And I'm betting that ChickenFried isn't too fond of me either. wink.gif
post #5866 of 13474
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Originally Posted by LILBZ3 View Post

You're a genius. Although I have noticed the scrolling bars (not a big deal) I did find out it was the brightness. I will take your advise and calibrate the blacks, I just thought I was supposed to wait 100 hours. Also, it was a store bought BR, I no longer have this problem, I'm stoked. It looks a lot better. Cant wait to calibrate. Thanks!

You don't need to wait to calibrate something simple like brightness and contrast... people just recommend to wait 100+ hours (some 200+ hours) before you pay for a professional to come and calibrate your set (for white balance, CMS, etc.) for $$$, because the rate of drift is supposedly higher during this "break-in period".
post #5867 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Dukecat View Post

Topper, how about posting your settings preceded by something along the lines of the following:
The following settings have been derived from multiple sources and techniques, which may be both technical and non-technical in nature, the result of which are not intended in any way to represent that which can be accomplished by a professionally performed calibration. The combination of sources and techniques have created a visual picture that should not be used as a standard or objective reference point to or for any other settings; the result was generated from adjustments to satisfy my own personal, subjective preferences, taking into account my specific TV and the conditions in which it operates. As all TVs and operating conditions are different, the results of these particular settings will differ, perhaps quite significantly. In short, the following settings should not be viewed as, or compared to, calibrated settings. They simply create a result that looks appropriate to me in my sole, subjective opinion.
Topper, if you still choose to not re-post your latest settings, I would appreciate it if you PM'd them to me. Thanks.

Topper has gone the way of D-Nice...don't expect to see him on here anymore.
post #5868 of 13474
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Originally Posted by I WANT MORE View Post

I am watching CIN vs ATL on FOX and it is spectacular. Nothing blurry about it.

Was it a bit blurry when the camera had to move very quickly. Im not saying that it is blurry all the time. But I guess I am noticing motion blur. But I should assume that that kind of thing is normal?

Also, does it matter what setting I currently have on when it comes to motion blur? I have Vivid (i know I know) could this be the problem?
post #5869 of 13474
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Originally Posted by NateDoggg View Post

Topper has gone the way of D-Nice...don't expect to see him on here anymore.

What happened with D-Nice?
post #5870 of 13474
i think we should sticky
day/night settings can be unlocked with Turbe's ControlCal software, and/or with calibration software.
post #5871 of 13474
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Originally Posted by jarias2311 View Post

Was it a bit blurry when the camera had to move very quickly. Im not saying that it is blurry all the time. But I guess I am noticing motion blur. But I should assume that that kind of thing is normal?
Also, does it matter what setting I currently have on when it comes to motion blur? I have Vivid (i know I know) could this be the problem?

try Motion Smoother on Weak - it's not a BIG difference, but it helps a little without introducing too much artifacts. I use Motion Smooth on Weak when viewing normal content, OFF when watching Blu Ray movies. I will sometimes click it up to Medium when watching sporting events - so for baseball maybe give that a try...just make sure you drop it down to Weak or Off when going back to normal content.
post #5872 of 13474
Are our VT50s RVU compatible?
post #5873 of 13474
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

What happened with D-Nice?
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He was supposed to do my VT50 today until I found bad IR
post #5874 of 13474
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

What happened with D-Nice?

It seems as though he's done with it all since he hasn't posted anywhere including not updating the settings thread with the GT50 & VT50 settings.

The ironic thing about Topper using D-Nice is that Topper probably contributed much to D-Nice's "irritation & insult pot." rolleyes.gif
post #5875 of 13474
Quick question:

What do I need to do in order for the VT50 to recognize a usb connected external hard drive?

I have an apple time capsule and a 1TB Iomega external drive. Connecting either of them via USB and TV does not seem to recognize either drive. Could it be because they were formatted by a Mac? Might push me towards picking up a WD Live media hub instead since I know that will play all my movie files.

Thanks in advance.
post #5876 of 13474
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Originally Posted by jarias2311 View Post

Was it a bit blurry when the camera had to move very quickly. Im not saying that it is blurry all the time. But I guess I am noticing motion blur. But I should assume that that kind of thing is normal?
Also, does it matter what setting I currently have on when it comes to motion blur? I have Vivid (i know I know) could this be the problem?

Not at all. No motion artifacts. No swimming grass. Just excellent. Same for the Det vs Balt game last night.
My set is calibrated. No motion smoother at all.
If FOX looks this good all season I will be a happy camper. I believe this display does a much better job with 720 than my Pro 151 did.
post #5877 of 13474
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Originally Posted by SpiffX View Post

Are our VT50s RVU compatible?

Not as far as I know. I have a DirecTV HR34 and a VT50. There is no evidence they speak each other's language.
post #5878 of 13474
Does the ST50 have any reported advantages over the VT50 or does the VT beat the ST in every area??
post #5879 of 13474
bought a 65" VT50 from Amazon today. can anyone recommend an after market warranty?
post #5880 of 13474
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Originally Posted by stuckinSoregon View Post

Does the ST50 have any reported advantages over the VT50 or does the VT beat the ST in every area??

VT50 beats ST50, but not by much... Mainly the following:
- Louver screen filter for better blacks
- One sheet of glass to the edges of the screen for beauty
- 96 Hz mode which, depending on who you speak to, works well or flickers
- More calibration controls

Another claim from Panasonic is that the VT50 has twice the shades of gray as the ST50, but I haven't seen anyone talk about it as something that is really perceptible.

I'm no expert, just summarizing what I've read since the very beginning of this thread, so take it with a grain of salt.

When I decided to by a Panasonic plasma, I asked D-Nice, the resident expert (who has since fleed) if the VT50 was better than the ST50, and his answer was positive. He also said, in more than one occasion, that the VT50 was the only set currently available in the market that could replace his Kuro if the later was to stop working.

Another expert calibrator, Chad B (recognized and respected around here) actually bought the GT50 for himself.

Many people around here will tell you that the differences between the ST50 and the VT50 are not worth the delta price, but they bought it anyways because they wanted the best regardless of cost. Lots of crazy people around here, myself included.
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