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post #6571 of 13474
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

On a side note and to be fair, I am sure there are other very fine calibrators out there but I will only speak of the ones I know and what there results are. I advise anybody looking for a Calibrator to check out 'htwaits' thread and read all the reviews that have been posted on what kind of TV/projector they need calibrated. Then E-mail the one or two you think would best suit your needs and explain exactly what you want done, to insure you that they can do it. ss

Agreed.

I believe that an "objectively" correct image is attainable, irregardless of my preference, and I want my set calibrated to it as closely as possible. Some calibrators know where at display's weak points are and that is where "they" have to make trade offs in adjustments. For example, according to Jeff, in many displays the math used in the color space is wrong...sure the primaries are correct--there is no calculation involved there--but other points are incorrect (he has measured them). So if the math is wrong and you only measure primaries and secondaries, the colors that matter, like faces and grass, may be off. So a calibrator worth his salt would notice this and make the necessary compromises in order to mitigate the errors. If there were no errors a CMS would not be needed except to attain a "non standard" image.

Sean
post #6572 of 13474
I just ordered the Chromapure upgrade for the Lumagen Radiance color cube update. It will be interesting to see how much of a difference the 125 color points will make. I'm very happy with my picture now so it's hard to belive that there will be a huge difference.

biggrin.gif I love new toys!!!!
post #6573 of 13474
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Originally Posted by CatBrat View Post

I watched the 2nd half of The Fellowship of the Rings, extended version on blu-ray on my Panasonic 65VT50, in THX Cinema mode, and the motion blur was so bad it was hard on the eyes. I was sitting about 8 feet away from it. I've watched this movie several times on different LCD displays and never noticed all this motion blur. Is it the TV, or is it just because it's a bigger screen? THX doesn't allow for any motion correction options. I've had the THX modes calibrated. Shortly after the TV is paid for, I'd like an isf calibration done by a qualified individual. Maybe in an isf mode, the motion blur wouldn't be quite so bad.
Interesting, I too have seen terrible motion blur in THX modes. But not on BD, however, I transitioned to "custom" settings (using only, 15 sharpness and little or no contour enhancement) rather quickly and haven't noticed excessive motion blur to be an issue on any of my sources. That said, I have a 55VT50 and sit about 10’ and often farther from the screen.
post #6574 of 13474
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Originally Posted by wmwilker View Post

I just ordered the Chromapure upgrade for the Lumagen Radiance color cube update. It will be interesting to see how much of a difference the 125 color points will make. I'm very happy with my picture now so it's hard to belive that there will be a huge difference.
biggrin.gif I love new toys!!!!

I was wondering who would be our VT50 beta site.smile.gif
post #6575 of 13474
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

I fully get what you are laying down. We were just trying to have a conversation about a particular piece of hardware. I am pretty sure we should be able to do that without getting advice on our finances or being labeled as know it alls. I have received several PM's as of late from people that have been left feeling underwhelmed after a calibration. This has not detoured me from my interest in the hobby. I will invest my time and money into my calibration venture as I see fit. I am still on the hunt for equipment. Once I fill that department, I will move onto the next step. For the time being, I will continue to assess the performance of the Darblet, which IMO is far from a gimmick.
Wow, can't we all just get along? Isn't this hobby supposed to be fun? Just kidding guys, I'm not trying to get into this fubar conversation.
Anywho, I'm happy to read Topper's assessments of the Darblet. I got mine yesterday and am contemplating returning it. The ARC issue is huge to me as is the minimal improvement on lesser HD sources (non-BD). If I did install the Darblet, I'm thinking of putting it between the BD player and the AVR. The other option might be to get an ARC compliant switch I can use between the AVR and VT50. One side of the switch would pass the signal unaltered to HDMI2 on the VT50 and the other would go to the Darblet then HDMI1. Anyone, advice on these two options would be greatly appreciated. biggrin.gif
post #6576 of 13474
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

I was wondering who would be our VT50 beta site.smile.gif

I'm just up the road from you so you'll have to check it out. Of course it's an expensive price of admission for the Lumagen.
post #6577 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Roxme View Post

Interesting, I too have seen terrible motion blur in THX modes. But not on BD, however, I transitioned to "custom" settings (using only, 15 sharpness and little or no contour enhancement) rather quickly and haven't noticed excessive motion blur to be an issue on any of my sources. That said, I have a 55VT50 and sit about 10’ and often farther from the screen.

Are you guys really saying that the THX mode can't handle movement? That seems really bad if true, almost absurd. Would be nice if someone could shed some more light on this.
post #6578 of 13474
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Originally Posted by improwise View Post

Are you guys really saying that the THX mode can't handle movement? That seems really bad if true, almost absurd. Would be nice if someone could shed some more light on this.

I've noticed "some" movement problems for a while, so for animation, I've been using Cinema (non THX) with motion correction (forgot exact name) set at maximum with excellent results. I've watched a lot of action movies in THX Cinema without a lot of motion problems, but when I watched The Fellowship of the Ring movie, 2nd half, it was almost unbearable to watch, during the fight scenes. Especially inside the cave with the cave troll was bad. It was on a blu-ray btw, if it matters. Using an OPPO 93 player.

Perhaps I need to experiment with the settings in the OPPO player?
Edited by CatBrat - 9/7/12 at 1:20pm
post #6579 of 13474
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Originally Posted by improwise View Post

Are you guys really saying that the THX mode can't handle movement? That seems really bad if true, almost absurd. Would be nice if someone could shed some more light on this.

I thought that the "movement smoothing" settings (off, low, medium, high) were available in all modes under the "advanced" menu option.

jdg
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Just unboxed my 65VT50, August 2012 build date, model number on back is TC-P65VT50-2.

Anyone else have a -2 version and know what if anything the -2 signifies?
Edited by Jason Bourne - 9/7/12 at 2:07pm
post #6581 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Jason Bourne View Post

Just unboxed by 65VT50, August 2012 build date, model number on back is TC-P65VT50-2.

Anyone else have a -2 version and know what if anything the -2 signifies?
In the cases I've read about, that type of appendage to a model number has no meaning for the owner, and doesn't represent any change in the display or other device.
post #6582 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Jason Bourne View Post

Just unboxed by 65VT50, August 2012 build date, model number on back is TC-P65VT50-2.
Anyone else have a -2 version and know what if anything the -2 signifies?

Need some pics once you get the TV going! smile.gif
post #6583 of 13474
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Originally Posted by JohnDG View Post

I thought that the "movement smoothing" settings (off, low, medium, high) were available in all modes under the "advanced" menu option.
jdg

Only the isf modes. It's grayed out in THX.
post #6584 of 13474
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Originally Posted by CatBrat View Post

Only the isf modes. It's grayed out in THX.

They are available in custom mode too
post #6585 of 13474
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Originally Posted by jbrady3324 View Post

They are available in custom mode too

Whats the difference between ISF modes and custom modes? If the motion setting is only available there it's really bad new for us living in Europe, as the VT50s here are light capped in Custom modes (assuming it is the same a Professional modes)
post #6586 of 13474
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Originally Posted by improwise View Post

Whats the difference between ISF modes and custom modes? If the motion setting is only available there it's really bad new for us living in Europe, as the VT50s here are light capped in Custom modes (assuming it is the same a Professional modes)

The ISFccc Interface and Custom share the same template. The Motion Setting is available (and can be enabled/disabled) in both Custom and ISFccc, at anytime.

However, here the ISFccc Interface has 4 memories that are added per Input (isf Night, isf Day for 2D and isf Night, isf Day for 3D).


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Edited by turbe - 9/7/12 at 2:11pm
post #6587 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Mac13 View Post

Need some pics once you get the TV going! smile.gif

Yeah just started running slides so next week some time...

Also just received my Darbee; that thing is not going to win any design awards but I read it does good stuff.
post #6588 of 13474
I read this blurb in the receivers forum.
Can anyone confirm on ARC output of the VT
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(eg. Panasonic) limit the ARC audio to only stereo while allowing DD 5.1 to pass over the optica

With the netflix built in, I've yet to hook up the Roku up.
I'm not done finalizing details on final AVR / speaker hookup though.
post #6589 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Jason Bourne View Post

Just unboxed my 65VT50, August 2012 build date, model number on back is TC-P65VT50-2.
Anyone else have a -2 version and know what if anything the -2 signifies?

At the least it means nothing. At the most it has the latest firmware updates.

Reality may be somewhere in between.
post #6590 of 13474
Please let us know if you have the vertical band on the right side.
post #6591 of 13474
How sensitive is the louvre filter on the VT50 to vertical viewing angels? If I get a VT50, I might have to mount it so that the bottom of the screen is at head level due to "room requirements", and I would prefer if I didn't have to tilt it forward.
post #6592 of 13474
Only issue I have with the tv is the judder problem, people have stated that it's not the tv but the source but for me it happens when watching tv or Bluray so it seems like everything but to be fair I have notice it on my brothers st30 but notice more severe on my set the 55vt50...wouldn't complain if it wasn't to severe that it takes my attention Everytime I see it
post #6593 of 13474
Can someone explain why Mosquito NR should be set to off? What are the negatives of having it on?
post #6594 of 13474
can the VT50 firmware be uploaded to the tv using a usb thumbdrive or does it have to be done using an SD memory card? Optionally can a user update the firmware by using a network connection that downloads the firmware and upgrades (Same way a blu-ray player can use a network connection to check for any firmware updates and allow the user to download it and automatically upgrade)?

Cheers,
J-Dogg
post #6595 of 13474
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Originally Posted by improwise View Post

How sensitive is the louvre filter on the VT50 to vertical viewing angels? If I get a VT50, I might have to mount it so that the bottom of the screen is at head level due to "room requirements", and I would prefer if I didn't have to tilt it forward.

I very much doubt you'll have a problem with that kind of angle.
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Originally Posted by J-Dogg View Post

can the VT50 firmware be uploaded to the tv using a usb thumbdrive or does it have to be done using an SD memory card? Optionally can a user update the firmware by using a network connection that downloads the firmware and upgrades (Same way a blu-ray player can use a network connection to check for any firmware updates and allow the user to download it and automatically upgrade)?
Cheers,
J-Dogg

It can be updated over the network.
post #6596 of 13474
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Originally Posted by TopperMcFly View Post

While I sympathize with those delving into the research of buying a new set, I have to put this out there. I have read post after post along the lines of "while I don't actually own one, I find ......." or " I stopped into BB and saw IR or was not impressed". These statements help no one here looking for accurate information.

I don't know. I "stopped into BB", had them change the VT50 from Vivid to THX mode, and couldn't believe how great it looked. Everything suddenly looked totally realistic, grass, skin, fabrics, you name it. Funny thing is, I stopped in a couple weeks later, and the VT50 was still in THX mode.wink.gif

Michael
post #6597 of 13474
D u have the motion smoother on or off,
post #6598 of 13474
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Originally Posted by JavMcGee View Post

Just unboxed my 65vt50 and had a dumb question.
I have the Denon 2113ci and want to just run HDMI from receiver to TV and utilize ARC. Can I just run one HDMI cable from the HDMI port 2 (labeled as ARC), or do I need to run two HDMI cables to the receiver (HDMI1 and HDMI2)?
Wondering if it is because the receiver needs to see the ARC content as a seperate source?
Thanks in advance !

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Originally Posted by richr8 View Post

As long as your receiver is ARC capable, you only need one cable. I had the same initial confusion. Works great.

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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

I have the 2313 and the answer is yes- one hdmi. Be sure that you have turned on hdmi control in both the avr and tv. For the tv it's located under Settings and also change your audio in that section from speakers to theater.

Hi, I am sorry but have these dumb queries that I was unable to resolve even after I tried the above and after reading the owners thread of my AVR.

I purchased a Denon 2312 that is ARC enabled and have a 1.4 HDMI cable connected from the AVR out to our TV's HDMI port 2 (ARC).

Only two HDMI connections into my AVR: cable-box and BD.

Additional steps:
AVR - turned 'on' the HDMI control
TV - Viera audio setting (when watching internet) turned to home theater

However, unable to get the TV audio on to the speakers. My dumb queries:

1. Are there any extra steps that I should take?

2. What should be 'source' on the AVR to use the ARC when watching internet directly on the TV? (I have only two connections - cab/sat and BD and the AVR outputs only their audio when I choose them.)

Thanks!
post #6599 of 13474
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Originally Posted by NYCPatsfan View Post

Hi, I am sorry but have these dumb queries that I was unable to resolve even after I tried the above and after reading the owners thread of my AVR.
I purchased a Denon 2312 that is ARC enabled and have a 1.4 HDMI cable connected from the AVR out to our TV's HDMI port 2 (ARC).
Only two HDMI connections into my AVR: cable-box and BD.
Additional steps:
AVR - turned 'on' the HDMI control
TV - Viera audio setting (when watching internet) turned to home theater
However, unable to get the TV audio on to the speakers. My dumb queries:
1. Are there any extra steps that I should take?
2. What should be 'source' on the AVR to use the ARC when watching internet directly on the TV? (I have only two connections - cab/sat and BD and the AVR outputs only their audio when I choose them.)
Thanks!

For audio from the apps, Netflix etc, you'll need to connect an optical cable, then indicate that as the tv's audio source. Make sure you note which optical port you use to make changing the setting in the avr easier. The avr should change to that source once you start it up Netflix or some other app, at least I think mine does. However, you will not be able to see the gui but will still be able to make some adjustments using the display on the avr.
post #6600 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Cev214 View Post

D u have the motion smoother on or off,

Not sure if you are replying to me. I keep motion smoother off because I don't like the soap opera effect.. Just wondering why everyone recomends keeping Mosquito NR off. What negative effect does it have?
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