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post #6721 of 13486
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Originally Posted by JohnDG View Post

IIRC Laserdisc is essentially stored in composite format, so an S-Video input on the AVR will not make much of a difference, even with anamorphic discs. Do use the digital audio connection if you can: I believe the better discs take advantage of it. Using the AVR I believe you want to upscale to a minimum of 480p for the VT50, or at least this is the way my setup works so that I don't need as many calibration settings.
I replaced my (admittedly limited) Laserdisc collection with DVDs over the years. What titles are you missing?
jdg

My collection isn't that large either, and I will probably get Blu-ray versions of the ones I want to keep. But the one I can probably never replace is the original Star Wars trilogy. The Laserdisc has the original movies as they were before George Lucas went insane and started modifying them beyond recognition.
post #6722 of 13486
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Originally Posted by larrygeary View Post

My collection isn't that large either, and I will probably get Blu-ray versions of the ones I want to keep. But the one I can probably never replace is the original Star Wars trilogy. The Laserdisc has the original movies as they were before George Lucas went insane and started modifying them beyond recognition.

+1

Same exact reason I still have my LaserDisc player!smile.gif
post #6723 of 13486
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

It seems that those of us who treat our tv like a tv from day 1 aren't getting noticeable IR.

Well said! Fully agree.

and I don't even hear any buzz.
post #6724 of 13486
I just posted the following on the Darbee thread and am curious if this issue is limited to the VT50. I know at least one poster here (Topper) has had a similar if not the same problem. Any advice/comments would be appreciated. TIA.

"I've seen a few posts about the Dabblet not playing nice with ARC and I'm officially in the same boat. I'm running one HDMI connection from Yamaha RX710 HDMI ARC out to Pasasonic P55VT50 HDMI 2 (ARC). I've never had a problen with the Vierra apps (i.e., Netflix) outputting audio to the AVR via ARC until the Darblet was added to the chain (between the AVR and TV).

Has anyone recieved any feedback from Darbee on this issue? I can run an optical cable from the TV to the AVR if necessary but I would really prefer not to do that.

Otherwise I'm extremelty happy with the Darblet ("set and forget" on HD 55). Thanks for any advice/input."
post #6725 of 13486
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Originally Posted by kluken View Post

I like HDMovies Net as I rarely if ever see a logo and it shows movies at a decent resolution and usually with 5.1.

Hello: Thanks for the tip. So far I have noticed Starz seems to display their logo briefly on and off during a movie ( mostly off). So this is working out for me so far. I'll also check out HDNet as well.
As a side note, I was in BB the other day and was mesmerized by a movie playing on a 70" Sharp Elite...the color, black level, detail, contrast etc. Turns out the movie was Phantom of the Opera 25th Anniversay Bluray which I snagged on Amazon.com for $20. I've only got about 25-30 hours on my VT50 so far but am anxious to replicate what I saw in this movie on the Elite. If you are looking for some reference material to show off your new reference level VT PQ --you might want to check this Bluray too.
post #6726 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Shrevetown View Post

I just posted the following on the Darbee thread and am curious if this issue is limited to the VT50. I know at least one poster here (Topper) has had a similar if not the same problem. Any advice/comments would be appreciated. TIA.
"I've seen a few posts about the Dabblet not playing nice with ARC and I'm officially in the same boat. I'm running one HDMI connection from Yamaha RX710 HDMI ARC out to Pasasonic P55VT50 HDMI 2 (ARC). I've never had a problen with the Vierra apps (i.e., Netflix) outputting audio to the AVR via ARC until the Darblet was added to the chain (between the AVR and TV).
Has anyone recieved any feedback from Darbee on this issue? I can run an optical cable from the TV to the AVR if necessary but I would really prefer not to do that.
Otherwise I'm extremelty happy with the Darblet ("set and forget" on HD 55). Thanks for any advice/input."

As far as I've heard (and in my case as well), the Darblet is not compatible with ARC. I've sent an email to them (since it is advertised as HDMI 1.4 compliant), but got no response so I dusted off the old optical cable.
post #6727 of 13486
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

+1
Same exact reason I still have my LaserDisc player!smile.gif
Nothing like a 12" CD wink.gif They where sweet !
post #6728 of 13486
sounds like the newer models are looking good I have a 2010 58vt25 that runs amazingly good, did the james cameron update when it was released and picture is amazing, for those interested these tv's last forever have a g10 series 50 inch in my game room that bought new in 2008, wont own anything else except for a panasonic plasma, 3d looks amazing; only thing that i wonder is are then newer glasses more comfortable and durable already broke one pair, and for some reason have been told the newer panasonic classes wont work with my model tv.
post #6729 of 13486
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Originally Posted by kevin_mahaney View Post

As far as I've heard (and in my case as well), the Darblet is not compatible with ARC. I've sent an email to them (since it is advertised as HDMI 1.4 compliant), but got no response so I dusted off the old optical cable.

Yes, that appears to be the solution until Darbee resolves this issue. And from the Dabee thread I've learned this problem is not unique to the VT50, so I won't clutter up this thread with any more OTT posts smile.gif
post #6730 of 13486
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Originally Posted by madturbosnake View Post

sounds like the newer models are looking good I have a 2010 58vt25 that runs amazingly good, did the james cameron update when it was released and picture is amazing, for those interested these tv's last forever have a g10 series 50 inch in my game room that bought new in 2008, wont own anything else except for a panasonic plasma, 3d looks amazing; only thing that i wonder is are then newer glasses more comfortable and durable already broke one pair, and for some reason have been told the newer panasonic classes wont work with my model tv.

The newer glasses don't work because they are bluetooth, model year 10 and 11 glasses were IR.
post #6731 of 13486
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Originally Posted by kevin_mahaney View Post

As far as I've heard (and in my case as well), the Darblet is not compatible with ARC. I've sent an email to them (since it is advertised as HDMI 1.4 compliant), but got no response so I dusted off the old optical cable.
Same issue here and I've heard nothing official either.
post #6732 of 13486
Finally I found a model for my 4-5 foot viewing distance that I am QUITE satisfied with. I ordered a sony widescreen xbr CRT as a back up for all the content that this tv cannot upscale or do well. So I have that covered. I have the 55 inch GT50 right now and am about to keep it.

I have a very obvious question, and I believe it is how I think but wanted to ask. Does a bigger screen mean that the individual pixels are bigger? I ask because I remember sitting this close to the 65 inch VT model and it looked like I was actually seeing the pixels more. They looked bigger to me. Im guessing since these tvs run the same resolutions, yet the screen size changes, that the bigger screens have to have bigger pixels? Any truth to that?

My only dilemma now is which size I should get of the GT model. Since I tried VT model and did not notice better blacks or anything like that. Plus I dont need the extra calibration features. I wanted the GT for its THX modes and pc input over the ST version. Which had the same picture to me as far as I could tell.

So at my viewing distance of 4-5 feet 55 looks great. Will 60 be considerably more pixelated looking and 65 inch? If the pixels are physically larger then this would explain alot of what I was seeing with the 65 inch VT. I do like the big size up close just not seeing a bunch of pixels or other issues. The 55 is quite clear up close depending on the content.

Im not sure if I should keep this tv or go with a larger model. I tried the 65 vt and at the time it seemed to give me issues with the pixels looking bigger. The only issue I really have with the tv is that it doesnt really upscale anything. The 360 has the upscaler so its fine with most of those games. Older ones wont look as good. The ps3 I noticed an oil painting, clayface, smoothing kind of effect that makes the image look less sharp. I read this is due to the ps3 not having a decent upscaler. So Ive accepted those issues and will hook the ps3 to my crt mainly.

My main use is gaming at 4-5 feet. Plasma is my prefferance I despise the look of LCD with low contrast and image blur, off viewing angles. So it is just a size issue for me now. Will 60 and 65 look more pixelated and show more defects or dithering up close? Any feedback much appreciated. I dont really feel like going back to return another tv but I will if it would be better.
post #6733 of 13486
I bought a 65 VT50 from Best Buy and it arrived this morning. The front of the box had been cut in a giant u shape. The delivery guy said they do this to check the display before they ship. Has anyone else who had it delivered by BB had the same experience. I would hate to think that I dropped 4K on a used TV that had been repackaged. Thanks.
post #6734 of 13486
Quick question about line bleed. I hooked up my new OPPO BDP-93 and popped in the Star Trek 2009 disc. Some "Audience Previews" started playing, and the green intro screen before at least the first trailer had awful line bleed - lines straight across the screen at several points in the picture, like at the top and bottom of lines of letters. What would be the source of that? I suspect it may be just poor quality of that intro screen, because there were no other problems (except for the player unexpectedly pausing for a few seconds at one point before the movie) and the movie looked great*. The only setting I changed on the player was to output 1080p to the VT50. I used THX Cinema mode on the VT without any tweaking, and it looked fine.

* The movie looked great until I tried to turn on the backlight on the remote and hit the drawer open button instead. End of movie.eek.gif
post #6735 of 13486
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Originally Posted by solat152 View Post

I bought a 65 VT50 from Best Buy and it arrived this morning. The front of the box had been cut in a giant u shape. The delivery guy said they do this to check the display before they ship. Has anyone else who had it delivered by BB had the same experience. I would hate to think that I dropped 4K on a used TV that had been repackaged. Thanks.

My box was intact. There is a way to get into the service menu and check the number of hours on the set. It should be zero. Sorry but I don't remember the secret handshake to get into the menu and navigate it.
post #6736 of 13486
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Originally Posted by larrygeary View Post

My box was intact. There is a way to get into the service menu and check the number of hours on the set. It should be zero. Sorry but I don't remember the secret handshake to get into the menu and navigate it.

How many stickers did the screen have on them. In all the unboxing vids I have seen the TV had two stickers. The energy star on the bottom right and a branding sticker on the upper left. Mine didnt have the sticker on the upper left of the screen.
post #6737 of 13486
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Originally Posted by solat152 View Post

How many stickers did the screen have on them. In all the unboxing vids I have seen the TV had two stickers. The energy star on the bottom right and a branding sticker on the upper left. Mine didnt have the sticker on the upper left of the screen.

Check the hours by doing this:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1123534/accessing-panasonic-service-menu

1. Enter Service Menu (Hold Vol. - down on the TV while pressing the INFO button on the remote 3 times).
2. Press the {2} button on the remote 1 time, to go to SRV-TOOL.
3. Press the {OK} button. A blue grid will appear with the following information.
TD2Mictocode: 81c00011
Flash ROM: 1-227E
PTCT :00.00.00.00.00
4. Cursor down to the PTCT :00.00.00.00.00 line and then cursor over to the right to highlight the empty box.
5. Press and hold the {MUTE} button on the remote for 3 seconds.
The TIME / COUNT info will be displayed in Hours and Minutes of Operation.
6. To exit, press and hold the {POWER} button on the TV for 2 seconds.
The display will re-start by itself.
post #6738 of 13486
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Originally Posted by solat152 View Post

I bought a 65 VT50 from Best Buy and it arrived this morning. The front of the box had been cut in a giant u shape. The delivery guy said they do this to check the display before they ship. Has anyone else who had it delivered by BB had the same experience. I would hate to think that I dropped 4K on a used TV that had been repackaged. Thanks.

That would piss me off as I like to keep the boxes in case I need to sell the TV or if I need to move. I think I would go as far as asking BB for some money back for the intentional damage to the box
post #6739 of 13486
Thanks. Can't wait to get off work and see.
Edited by solat152 - 9/13/12 at 1:17pm
post #6740 of 13486
Mine had a big upside down U cut into one side of it also when it was shipped. I was wondering why it was delivered this way. Purchased from BB, but delivered by contractors. I've since destroyed the box.
post #6741 of 13486
As a merchant, we are in a bind when we our self's except deliveries from the manufacturer. How do we know if we are excepting units that are not cracked? Only one way to be sure, open the box and power up the set. Nothing worse then going on a local delivery 20 miles away to open up a box with a client standing right there to see a damaged TV inside. Of course we advise our clients in advance, and they all understand the liabilities that we are under when TV's come in.

It is obvious if your TV is used however, is the remote sealed? Power cord? Stand? Owners Manual?
post #6742 of 13486
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Originally Posted by robnix View Post

Check the hours by doing this:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1123534/accessing-panasonic-service-menu
1. Enter Service Menu (Hold Vol. - down on the TV while pressing the INFO button on the remote 3 times).
2. Press the {2} button on the remote 1 time, to go to SRV-TOOL.
3. Press the {OK} button. A blue grid will appear with the following information.
TD2Mictocode: 81c00011
Flash ROM: 1-227E
PTCT :00.00.00.00.00
4. Cursor down to the PTCT :00.00.00.00.00 line and then cursor over to the right to highlight the empty box.
5. Press and hold the {MUTE} button on the remote for 3 seconds.
The TIME / COUNT info will be displayed in Hours and Minutes of Operation.
6. To exit, press and hold the {POWER} button on the TV for 2 seconds.
The display will re-start by itself.

When I get my new GT50 tomorrow I was going to check the time as my previous 2 Samsung E8000s, especially the second one had unaccounted for usage (the second one with 94 hours!). I downloaded the service manual for the ST50 which will be the same and there is this anomally regarding your point 6.

The procedure for entering the service menu is as you describe it in points 1-5 (although for point 1 it does say to press INFO 3 times within 2 seconds - just added this in case some people are slower and they wonder why they cannot get in). The *general* way of exiting is thus:

6.1.3. How to exit
Switch off the power with the [POWER] button on the main unit or the [POWER] button on the remote control.


However, with the 6.3. Service tool mode, where you check for, inter alia, panel usage time, it has a *different* exit mode strategy and that is described as follows:

6.3.4. Exit
1. Disconnect the AC cord from wall outlet.


Now I know that others have had success with just merely pushing the power button on the TV but I thought I would bring up this specific difference.
post #6743 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

As a merchant, we are in a bind when we our self's except deliveries from the manufacturer. How do we know if we are excepting units that are not cracked? Only one way to be sure, open the box and power up the set. Nothing worse then going on a local delivery 20 miles away to open up a box with a client standing right there to see a damaged TV inside. Of course we advise our clients in advance, and they all understand the liabilities that we are under when TV's come in.

The difference is that you call the customer first.

If it were me, I would request that you do not cut up the box but that you may remove it from the box in order to power it up if a visual inspection is not sufficient.
post #6744 of 13486
I think it's new. Everything looked to be in the right place. The only thing that made me really wonder is that it did not have the sticker in the upper left hand corner. I would have preferred to not have them cut open the box though. It's like when you go to Gamestop to buy a "new" game and they hand you one that is already open. I want one that has the plastic wrap on it.

By the way that service menu thing doesn't work. I can get the service menu but at step 5, holding down the mute, nothing happens.

Never mind I got it to work. The TV is new.
Edited by solat152 - 9/13/12 at 4:01pm
post #6745 of 13486
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Originally Posted by solat152 View Post

I bought a 65 VT50 from Best Buy and it arrived this morning. The front of the box had been cut in a giant u shape. The delivery guy said they do this to check the display before they ship. Has anyone else who had it delivered by BB had the same experience. I would hate to think that I dropped 4K on a used TV that had been repackaged. Thanks.

What area do you live in?

We don't do that in our store/district, but sometimes I wish we would. Panasonic may have the best TVs, but somewhere along the lines their TVs have by far the highest cracked/broken upon arrival of any of the major manufacturers.

Seems like an annoyance for people that really care about the box (it's just a box people) but they really do it to prohibit you from having to schedule a return exchange for another TV and wait even longer for the TV
post #6746 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Walking Beast View Post

I have a very obvious question,
Yes it's a very obvious question, and your answer to your own question is the only possible answer. wink.gif
post #6747 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

As a merchant, we are in a bind when we our self's except deliveries from the manufacturer. How do we know if we are excepting units that are not cracked? Only one way to be sure, open the box and power up the set. Nothing worse then going on a local delivery 20 miles away to open up a box with a client standing right there to see a damaged TV inside. Of course we advise our clients in advance, and they all understand the liabilities that we are under when TV's come in.
It is obvious if your TV is used however, is the remote sealed? Power cord? Stand? Owners Manual?

Opening it is fine as long as the customer knows ahead of time. However, cutting into the front of the box is something I do not agree with
post #6748 of 13486
Most if Not all displays - you just easily remove the white *carrier cardboard* holders - then remove the top box and styrofoam.
Granted this just Slightly more effort than cutting a U - but easily done...
post #6749 of 13486
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Originally Posted by BlueKhaki View Post

What area do you live in?
We don't do that in our store/district, but sometimes I wish we would. Panasonic may have the best TVs, but somewhere along the lines their TVs have by far the highest cracked/broken upon arrival of any of the major manufacturers.
Seems like an annoyance for people that really care about the box (it's just a box people) but they really do it to prohibit you from having to schedule a return exchange for another TV and wait even longer for the TV

I live in Colorado. I don't mind about the box really but it would have been better if they tell you that up front when you're buying the tv. Not when they are delivering it to your door.
post #6750 of 13486
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Originally Posted by weedeater View Post

The difference is that you call the customer first.
If it were me, I would request that you do not cut up the box but that you may remove it from the box in order to power it up if a visual inspection is not sufficient.
Well that's the other thing, we do not cut the box, that's what the four white clips on the side of the box are for wink.gif To open and seal easy......
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