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post #6811 of 13474
Anyone installed the latest firmeware?And does it effect picture settings?
post #6812 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Roxme View Post

Ditto ,except I didn't have to use a "USB adapter." The VT50 search found my Uverse wireless network and I punched in the 10 digit code.

You have an internal adapter. Something is wrong with his internal adapter which is why it's asking for a usb adapter. The tv cannot see the internal one and asks for the next best thing.
post #6813 of 13474
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

You have an internal adapter. Something is wrong with his internal adapter which is why it's asking for a usb adapter. The tv cannot see the internal one and asks for the next best thing.
Sorry, I wasn't sure if he was having trouble finding the proper menu settings or if it was a receiver malfunction.
post #6814 of 13474
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Originally Posted by gdfein View Post

Still unable to get the WiFi on my 55vt50 to detect my router.
Has anyone documented any issue with a wifi connection to a uverse 2Wire 3801hgv??
My vt50 keeps saying to connect a compatible wireless adapter to a USB port, but wifi is built in?? Very frustrating.
Feel like I must be missing something silly.

Look at the lower rear of the set to the left and right of center. You'll see two rectangular boxes that are labeled as wireless radios, one is bluetooth and the other wifi. I don't know if they are detachable but it's worth a look.
post #6815 of 13474
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Originally Posted by en6ads View Post

New firmware is out today. States improvements to browser:
http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/tv/download/fw/america/down_na5.html

Still no luminance fix? This is getting boring.
post #6816 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Gradius2 View Post

Still no luminance fix? This is getting boring.

CMS luminance control was fixed in firmware version 1.150; released weeks ago. Latest is 1.170.

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post #6817 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat View Post

I have an Onkyo 360 and I get audio/video pass through, and ARC no problem.
Are you only using one HDMI cable between the Onkyo and the GT50?

A solution for the ARC problem is to use 2 HDMI cables, one to Input1 and the other to Input2 on the VT/GT50. Use the Darblet on Input1. Input2 would be for ARC. Of course this will only work if you have 2 HDMI outputs on your receiver. My receiver (Denon3811) will automatically switch to the ARC when it senses activity on it.
post #6818 of 13474
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Originally Posted by dvdmd1 View Post

Anyone installed the latest firmeware?And does it effect picture settings?

I just did it and non HD content is a lot better. I have been watching tv most of the day so it was very obvious for me. I love it. Now I need to look at some HD content now.
post #6819 of 13474
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Originally Posted by swank121 View Post

Look at the lower rear of the set to the left and right of center. You'll see two rectangular boxes that are labeled as wireless radios, one is bluetooth and the other wifi. I don't know if they are detachable but it's worth a look.

They look detachable, but may be screwed in as well as snapped in. Might be worth trying to free them and re-seat them. But don't do too much since it's doubtless a warranty-able fix.
post #6820 of 13474
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Originally Posted by SiGGy View Post

CMS luminance control was fixed in firmware version 1.150; released weeks ago. Latest is 1.170.
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Really? Strange they didn't mentioned nothing at all on official site.
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post #6822 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Gradius2 View Post

Really? Strange they didn't mentioned nothing at all on official site.

I don't think they ever admitted there was a problem with the controls.
post #6823 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Gradius2 View Post

Really? Strange they didn't mentioned nothing at all on official site.

Gradius2,

I guess I'm chump change.. I have replied to you in the past, more than once!

Panasonic shows South America as a separate Region without external control (don't hate the Messenger) .. once you get access to a VT50 from the South America Region, lets check per our past conversations..

If no go,
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I don't think they ever admitted there was a problem with the controls.

only a few Manufacturers would, publicly..
Edited by turbe - 9/18/12 at 7:23pm
post #6824 of 13474
I probably should have asked this before I installed the 1.170 firmware update, but what does it fix/change/add?
post #6825 of 13474
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Originally Posted by larrygeary View Post

I probably should have asked this before I installed the 1.170 firmware update, but what does it fix/change/add?

Not sure entirely, the only thing they mentioned on the download information webpage is improvement of browser, but there probably was a few other minor fixes that they didn't bother to mention or want to admit that was broken?
post #6826 of 13474

I have a calibrated display. I did not download the first update. What are the chances that this one updates the browser while having no effect on the calibration?

post #6827 of 13474
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Originally Posted by I WANT MORE View Post

I have a calibrated display. I did not download the first update. What are the chances that this one updates the browser while having no effect on the calibration?

Could someone please post the link to the VT50 firmware update site? I've lost it (in more than one sense of the phrase). I think the 1.150 update was about 80 megabytes. If 1.170 is larger, then it's likely it contains all the previous updates. If it's a small file then it's an add-on and it wouldn't contain the fix to the luminance controls.That's just my guess.
post #6828 of 13474
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Originally Posted by I WANT MORE View Post

I have a calibrated display. I did not download the first update. What are the chances that this one updates the browser while having no effect on the calibration?
Hey More,
If you don't mind me asking, who did you find in our "middle of nowhere" to calibrate your panel?
Ron
post #6829 of 13474
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Originally Posted by larrygeary View Post

Could someone please post the link to the VT50 firmware update site? I've lost it (in more than one sense of the phrase). I think the 1.150 update was about 80 megabytes. If 1.170 is larger, then it's likely it contains all the previous updates. If it's a small file then it's an add-on and it wouldn't contain the fix to the luminance controls.That's just my guess.
I assume the update will cover everything (if your set is more than one update behind) since they instruct you to download the latest version for your TV. You do know this can be done through a wireless or wired internet connection directly from the VT50' s menu, otherwise, you have to go through the girations described on this website...
http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/tv/download/fw/america/down_na5.html
post #6830 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Latinoheat

I have the darbee hooked up to my GT50 and haven't experienced anything you have mentioned. I have an Onkyo 360 and I get audio/video pass through, and ARC no problem.
It is perfect with my setup. Must be something or your end.
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Originally Posted by robnix View Post

You have ARC running through the Darbee? It killed my ARC connection as well as Toppers.
Well, good news. Larry at Darblet support replied to my email describing my issues with the Darbee.
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Hello Ron,

Sorry for your issues and it does take some time for our tech team to parse through each part of your issues. Thanks for your patience.
  • Flashes may improve to your liking, with a replacement unit as the flashes may be a software issue.
  • Remote quality may be satisfactory with a replacement, as we have made a small running change in our source to help there.
  • ARC will not be fixed with a replacement unit, we got stung by our HDMI IP vendor and are still determining what can be done, if anything.
  • Probably not in your case, but we do feel that we are navigating the HDMI minefield, as adroitly as most companies can.
If you would like a replacement, I'd be happy to get you out a new one.

We need your address and who you purchased the unit from.

I will then send you an RMA and shipping slip.

Larry
Ya can't ask for much better serves than that. So, hopefully I'll have better luck once Darbee 2.0 arrives.biggrin.gif
post #6831 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Roxme View Post

Well, good news. Larry at Darblet support replied to my email describing my issues with the Darbee.
Ya can't ask for much better serves than that. So, hopefully I'll have better luck once Darbee 2.0 arrives.biggrin.gif

Thanks for that. Unfortunately I need the ARC support so my Darbee will be going up for sale.
post #6832 of 13474
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Originally Posted by dhan View Post

For those interrested...
Sound&VisionMag Test Report: Panasonic TC-P55VT50 3D Plasma HDTV

What's up with his gamma???
post #6833 of 13474
Holy crap! The P55VT50 is priced at almost $550 more than I paid through Amazon. Damn, if only our homes would appreciate in value that fast we'd be out of this recession in a few weeks.biggrin.gif
post #6834 of 13474
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

What's up with his gamma???

He keeps talking about 25% windows, so almost certainly he's got serious ABL issues with that size. I would have expected that to kick in lower than 90% stimulus, though.
post #6835 of 13474
"ARC will not be fixed with a replacement unit, we got stung by our HDMI IP vendor and are still determining what can be done, if anything."

What exactly is a "HDMI IP vendor" and what relationship does that have to the ARC failing to return audio through the Darbee?

I ran an optical cable from the TV to my AVR, so not that big a deal. but I am curious as to why the problem exists.

Thanks!
post #6836 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Shrevetown View Post

"ARC will not be fixed with a replacement unit, we got stung by our HDMI IP vendor and are still determining what can be done, if anything."
What exactly is a "HDMI IP vendor" and what relationship does that have to the ARC failing to return audio through the Darbee?
I ran an optical cable from the TV to my AVR, so not that big a deal. but I am curious as to why the problem exists.
Thanks!

You see the problem with people making up their own abbreviations for things and never defining them: It leads to confusion and misunderstanding.

I guess he means HDMI Input vendor, that is, the supplier of the part that is soldered to the circuit board and accepts the HDMI cable. That component may not have ARC capability (is not HDMI 1.4a compliant, though the supplier claimed it was), Darbee didn't test the capability (inadequate quality assurance (QA)), and now they would have to recall all units and replace all the circuit boards, which is cost-prohibitive for a small company.
post #6837 of 13474
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Originally Posted by larrygeary View Post

You see the problem with people making up their own abbreviations for things and never defining them: It leads to confusion and misunderstanding.
I guess he means HDMI Input vendor, that is, the supplier of the part that is soldered to the circuit board and accepts the HDMI cable. That component may not have ARC capability (is not HDMI 1.4a compliant, though the supplier claimed it was), Darbee didn't test the capability (inadequate quality assurance (QA)), and now they would have to recall all units and replace all the circuit boards, which is cost-prohibitive for a small company.

Ahhh, now THAT makes sense. Thanks.
post #6838 of 13474
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Originally Posted by larrygeary View Post

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Originally Posted by Shrevetown View Post

"ARC will not be fixed with a replacement unit, we got stung by our HDMI IP vendor and are still determining what can be done, if anything."
What exactly is a "HDMI IP vendor" and what relationship does that have to the ARC failing to return audio through the Darbee?
I ran an optical cable from the TV to my AVR, so not that big a deal. but I am curious as to why the problem exists.
Thanks!
I guess he means HDMI Input vendor, that is, the supplier of the part that is soldered to the circuit board and accepts the HDMI cable.
In this case, IP likely means "intellectual property", as in "the vendor that sells them the copyrighted, patented, and DMCA-protected hardware that can handle HDCP" to which they attach their video processing features.

One of the biggest issues with HDMI is that in addition to the fairly complicated spec for unencrypted HDMI, HDCP is layered on top of that, and because of the completely stupid fear of someone "breaking HDCP", you have to deal with a limited number of vendors who supply you with parts that "do HDMI". Because of this, pretty much everybody who makes a device with an HDMI input or output can't fix problems with their own devices...they must decribe/demonstrate the issue to their source and have new firmware written that they can download to their device (best case), or new parts made that fix the issue (more typical). This case might be even worse, in that the video must be unencrypted to be processed, and paranoia of "bus snooping" might mean that they have to send off their video processing hardware/software to somebody to wrap HDCP around it in a single-chip solution.

All this to solve a problem that doesn't exist and never will, since there are many easier ways to copy video than by grabbing it from an HDMI connection.
post #6839 of 13474
"In this case, IP likely means "intellectual property", as in "the vendor that sells them the copyrighted, patented, and DMCA-protected hardware that can handle HDCP" to which they attach their video processing features. ..."

nabsltd, thank you for your elucidation of the matter. I just took a guess. Perhaps the original questioner could ask for clarification from Darbee, if it matters.

Do you agree that Darbee has no realistic way to fix ARC in current units already in the field?
post #6840 of 13474
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Originally Posted by Roxme View Post

I assume the update will cover everything (if your set is more than one update behind) since they instruct you to download the latest version for your TV. You do know this can be done through a wireless or wired internet connection directly from the VT50' s menu, otherwise, you have to go through the girations described on this website...
http://panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/tv/download/fw/america/down_na5.html

Yes, I know. My VT50 is connected to the net via WiFi, and I got the firmware update from there. But nowhere does it tell me what's changing, thus I asked for the website to see if there is any info.

I see the file is bigger than before, so it must contain all previous firmware updates as well as the new changes.
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