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post #7501 of 12311
11/10/12 at 10:41am
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Originally Posted by nabsltd View Post

That's what I'm basically using, so I wouldn't think settings would be the cause.

The only real difference I had from you is that I ran the slides for 100 straight hours after I took the TV out of the box. I was able to do this because I couldn't put it in place until I got rid of the old TV, so I had no inputs connected. This shouldn't make any difference, since your phosphors should now have finished the initial "quick" aging because of the varied usage.

I don't watch much History channel, but I do watch ESPN and MLB network a lot, and they have a lot of fixed graphics that only go away during commercials. Other than my issue with leaving the Windows desktop for hours, I've never been able to see IR when viewing normal content...only slides show the IR. So, I don't think I have any other ideas about your situation.

Thanks nabsltd for the concern and help. It is appreciated.

Looks like now we got the IR completely unnoticeable during content :-) But can still see it if you look for it real hard during a white slide. This took a combination of running the slides and The Pixel Flipper. I actually think The Pixel Flipper fixes it faster. Gonna run it tonight all night while we sleep just to see if I can get it 100% gone even when looking hard for it during a all white screen.

I am telling you, The History Channels logo is just something "stronger/harder" than you think and "stronger/harder". than it needs to be. Believe me. What sucks, is, it looks like the truest and best HD quality out of all the stations IMO. This is part of why we like to watch it so much.

This is why I would like to start (with someone's help who knows how to do this) a petition to the channels that have too "hard" of logos, to "soften" their logos. At the reasoning request of possibly ruining very expensive video gear. In turn, possibly putting them responsible for the merchandise with a good enough lawyer. So avoid it all, and heed our petition.

Anyway, as I said here, the good news is it looks like it was just very stubborn IR luckily and it seems to be going away. Thanks again !
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11/10/12 at 10:49am
So is it just me or what, but I hate my P65VT50!!!!

I just received it this past week from Value Electronics. It was burned in and professionally calibrated. I find all modes to be extremely dark, even the day/bright modes. I don't know how it would be possible for anyone to watch this TV in standard mode. I tried using toppers custom settings and it is way better, but the picture just does not seem to "pop" to me. The picture is just overall very dull. The ISF modes look horrible to me too. I've heard some many great things and have read so many great reviews that i feel something is either wrong with me! I have a Sony NX810 also that I just absolutely love!

I'm debating trading it in for the Sony 65" XBR but I really don't want to go through the hassle and expense.

Dwayne


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post #7503 of 12311
11/10/12 at 10:55am
So today I got some image retention. Very disappointed. I had the Xbox Live homescreen up and went to make some eggs. Probably took about 15 -20 minutes. Played Halo 4 for about an hour and then turned on Netflix. When the screen is white or a light color I can see my gamer tag on the bottom left corner. I ran color slides for the first 100 hours and made sure to watch varied content after that. Hopefully it goes away.
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post #7504 of 12311
11/10/12 at 11:04am
For what it is worth, I had some of the same from playing PS3 during the first few weeks. I ran the solid color slides and it disappeared rather quickly. I ran them overnight so not sure how long it actually took. I had left the tv on playing BF3 and it stayed on that way for a few hours on a static screen. Since the tv has aged (Probably over 300 hours now or more), I don't notice any IR, though I am more responsible about leaving it on a static screen now. Might be worth downloading and running them.
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post #7505 of 12311
11/10/12 at 3:11pm
Is it normal for a 65VT50 that is mounted on the stand it came with to have a slight wobble to it? Wasn't sure if the installers did not tighten everything completely or it's normal due to it's size and the relative cheapness of the factory stand. I did check the screws on the stand connecting the TV to the stand, but did not remove the TV from the stand to check the screws under the rear coverplate. Anyttime I walk near the set or behind it I noticed that it wobbles back and forth ever so slightly from front to back. Any insight would be appreciated.
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post #7506 of 12311
11/10/12 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by Vette1992 View Post

So is it just me or what, but I hate my P65VT50!!!!
I just received it this past week from Value Electronics. It was burned in and professionally calibrated. I find all modes to be extremely dark, even the day/bright modes. I don't know how it would be possible for anyone to watch this TV in standard mode. I tried using toppers custom settings and it is way better, but the picture just does not seem to "pop" to me. The picture is just overall very dull. The ISF modes look horrible to me too. I've heard some many great things and have read so many great reviews that i feel something is either wrong with me! I have a Sony NX810 also that I just absolutely love!
I'm debating trading it in for the Sony 65" XBR but I really don't want to go through the hassle and expense.
Dwayne
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Your post has caused me sweaty palms! I'm presently going the same route as you have. Who did your calibration; Ed or Kevin?. Did you speak to Wendy or Robert about this???
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post #7507 of 12311
11/10/12 at 4:07pm
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Originally Posted by Vette1992 View Post

So is it just me or what, but I hate my P65VT50!!!!
I just received it this past week from Value Electronics. It was burned in and professionally calibrated. I find all modes to be extremely dark, even the day/bright modes. I don't know how it would be possible for anyone to watch this TV in standard mode. I tried using toppers custom settings and it is way better, but the picture just does not seem to "pop" to me. The picture is just overall very dull. The ISF modes look horrible to me too. I've heard some many great things and have read so many great reviews that i feel something is either wrong with me! I have a Sony NX810 also that I just absolutely love!
I'm debating trading it in for the Sony 65" XBR but I really don't want to go through the hassle and expense.
Dwayne
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There is something wrong with your professional calibration because it should not look dark. Put the VT50 into THX Cinema mode and see how that looks, assuming that someone hasn't played around with the settings. The VT50 has great black levels that make everything look better and that is right out of the box. So it is either the calibration or something is wrong with the VT50. I just wonder about your "professional" calibration. "professional" may mean that you paid something for it or that it was included within your package. What you see is not normal.
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post #7508 of 12311
11/10/12 at 5:33pm
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Originally Posted by Vette1992 View Post

So is it just me or what, but I hate my P65VT50!!!!
I just received it this past week from Value Electronics. It was burned in and professionally calibrated. I find all modes to be extremely dark, even the day/bright modes. I don't know how it would be possible for anyone to watch this TV in standard mode. I tried using toppers custom settings and it is way better, but the picture just does not seem to "pop" to me. The picture is just overall very dull. The ISF modes look horrible to me too. I've heard some many great things and have read so many great reviews that i feel something is either wrong with me! I have a Sony NX810 also that I just absolutely love!
I'm debating trading it in for the Sony 65" XBR but I really don't want to go through the hassle and expense.
Dwayne
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Relax take at least a week to get use to your most used mode calibrated settings.
In some cases folks are so use to a "blaze" picture that at first they don't like a well calibrated picture, and say the same thing as you are saying. Try using some Blu Ray movies, look for detail and color, look at some dark scenes for background detail, same for bright scenes detail. Look for flesh tones, foliage colors, what you see out side in the real world and compare.

Download and burn AVS HD 709, http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration
Look at the stepped gray scale and the flashing contrast pattern, do you see any tint of color other than gray?
And or buy a copy of Spears & Munsil
Look at all the test patterns, use the SM drop down info that explains what each pattern is for and what it should look like.

Post your calibration report, or compare my ISF calibration report (top link in my sig) to yours.
Warning I don't recommend this because you can damage your VT50 if not done right, but if you are very careful you can check to see how many hours are on your VT50.

ss
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post #7509 of 12311
11/10/12 at 7:24pm
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

Is it normal for a 65VT50 that is mounted on the stand it came with to have a slight wobble to it?
The VT50 should move a little in the pedestal (Panasonic's official term for the "stand" that comes with the VT50), as it isn't a perfectly snug fit, and even if there was, the TV will create a lot of torque onto the neck (which is why the fit isn't snug...this keeps the neck from taking as much stress from minor movement of the display).

What is the pedestal sitting on...table, rack, the floor? My VT50 will wobble slightly if I give my entertainment rack a decent push, but unless the rack gets touched, the TV never moves, even with 4 large dogs running around. When the TV was on the floor during the 100 hour break-in, I had to touch the TV itself to get it to wobble. So, if footsteps near your rack/table/whatever are causing the TV to wobble on the pedestal, then I think you need to investigate the stability of whatever the TV is actually sitting on.

Also, it's possible that the pedestal base (or whatever it is sitting on) isn't perfectly flat. The base has 4 rectangular rubber feet that should even out most small imperfections, but if one of the feet is missing, or the difference is too much, that could create a dangerous situation.
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post #7510 of 12311
11/11/12 at 12:23am
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Originally Posted by Xenfernox View Post

On the Avengers movie when the group shot circle pan's on the group shot in the new york battle the heads of the actors seem to tear.

I have tried all combinations of settings of motion smoother and 48 ,60 and 96Hz . (all other image enhancers are turned off)

Is this just the norm and something to live with?
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Originally Posted by JoelxD View Post

Wow, this sucks ! I haven't seen this yet with any other content, though I haven't watched The Avengers through it yet, BUT ironically enough, I just got my Avengers BD from Amazon today... HA ! SO I will take it to my moms tomorrow and watch it. I'll keep you posted. As if I see a issue, I will spend all day trying to fix it. She has a Oppo BDP-93 (like me) and if needed, I'll try a array of combinations to figure it out.

Ok, Xenfernox. I played with the settings while on this particular pan shot, and I got it to look perfect. For motion, these settings here seem to work across the board perfect for everything so far that I've seen:

Motion Smoother: Medium
24p Direct: 60hz

BluRay player needs no extra adjusting at all.

Try that, you should be good.
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post #7511 of 12311
11/11/12 at 7:13am
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Originally Posted by abba1 View Post

Your post has caused me sweaty palms! I'm presently going the same route as you have. Who did your calibration; Ed or Kevin?. Did you speak to Wendy or Robert about this???

I have no idea who did the calibration, but I did talk to Robert about my TV. He was kind of shocked I was unhappy with it. He told me to try it out for a few more days and let him know what I wanted to do. The couple of extra days just helped to confirm that I do not like this TV. I don't know if it is defective or just me. I tried a factory reset just to see if that corrected anything, but all it did was delete my ISF calibrated modes!!

Dwayne
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post #7512 of 12311
11/11/12 at 7:16am
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Originally Posted by fookoo_2010 View Post

There is something wrong with your professional calibration because it should not look dark. Put the VT50 into THX Cinema mode and see how that looks, assuming that someone hasn't played around with the settings. The VT50 has great black levels that make everything look better and that is right out of the box. So it is either the calibration or something is wrong with the VT50. I just wonder about your "professional" calibration. "professional" may mean that you paid something for it or that it was included within your package. What you see is not normal.

It was ISF calibrated from Value Electronics. They are supposed to be quite reputable. THX Cinema mode is just way too dark. I factory reset the device but it did not get any better.

Dwayne
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post #7513 of 12311
11/11/12 at 7:19am
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

Relax take at least a week to get use to your most used mode calibrated settings.
In some cases folks are so use to a "blaze" picture that at first they don't like a well calibrated picture, and say the same thing as you are saying. Try using some Blu Ray movies, look for detail and color, look at some dark scenes for background detail, same for bright scenes detail. Look for flesh tones, foliage colors, what you see out side in the real world and compare.
Download and burn AVS HD 709, http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration
Look at the stepped gray scale and the flashing contrast pattern, do you see any tint of color other than gray?
And or buy a copy of Spears & Munsil
Look at all the test patterns, use the SM drop down info that explains what each pattern is for and what it should look like.
Post your calibration report, or compare my ISF calibration report (top link in my sig) to yours.
Warning I don't recommend this because you can damage your VT50 if not done right, but if you are very careful you can check to see how many hours are on your VT50.
ss

I unfortunately did not get a calibration report with my TV. However I will ask for it.

Dwayne
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post #7514 of 12311
11/11/12 at 8:30am
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Originally Posted by Vette1992 View Post

It was ISF calibrated from Value Electronics. They are supposed to be quite reputable. THX Cinema mode is just way too dark. I factory reset the device but it did not get any better.

Your expectations maybe too high. THX Cinema will look dark because the colors will be desaturated compared to what you are use to seeing. It is suppose to be something comparable to what one would see at the theater. ISF calibrations should have separate day and night modes in which the night mode is the most "accurate" but requires a darker room. The calibration is done to a reference standard. It can take a few days to get use to a calibrated picture, but you should eventually see much more accurate skin tones compared to THX Cinema picture mode.
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post #7515 of 12311
11/11/12 at 4:08pm
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Originally Posted by Vette1992 View Post

I have no idea who did the calibration, but I did talk to Robert about my TV. He was kind of shocked I was unhappy with it. He told me to try it out for a few more days and let him know what I wanted to do. The couple of extra days just helped to confirm that I do not like this TV. I don't know if it is defective or just me. I tried a factory reset just to see if that corrected anything, but all it did was delete my ISF calibrated modes!!
Dwayne

Bummer! So at this stage of the game, what are you planning to do? As for my part I think I'm going to call Robert early this week as my VT50 will be calibrated by K. Miller Friday. I certainly don't want to receive this TV after waiting all this time and spending all this $$$ and having the feeling, ''I wish I would have kept the LG 5600.
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post #7516 of 12311
11/11/12 at 5:39pm
Just wanted to jump into the thread, picked up the 65"VT50 Fri night at Best Buy. Coming from my dinosaur Pioneer 53" CRT Projection in 2003, which was no slouch in its day, this TV is a beauty! Watched Spiderman 3 Blu-ray, the dark shadows and black costume details are extraordinary! No LCD can touch it, I think I made the right choice.

I have some questions as a newbie owner, I read most of the posts in this long thread but need clarification on:

1) Should I update to the latest firmware or leave the stock Oct 2012 build FW on the TV? There was mention of the latest FW not as good, cannot roll back???
2) I am probably not going to get it professionally Cal'd, just copy another guys settings on this forum. THX cinema look pretty awesome out of the box! I heard first 100-150 hours are critical for burn, so as long as I stay away from History channel logo stuff I should be ok? what about at hour 125, can I start to watch shows with a logo bottom right corner or never if I dont want burn-in?

Thanks Vince
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post #7517 of 12311
11/11/12 at 8:14pm
Ok. Starting to think I am cursed. 1st vt50 = dead pixels. 2nd vt50 = terrible plasma buzz and fingerprints under glass front. 3rd vt50 (from a different store with different manufacture date as first two ) = dead pixels again! WTF!!! Will try for a 4th time tomorrow but starting to think the quality control for Panasonic is utter crap.
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post #7518 of 12311
11/12/12 at 4:18am
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Originally Posted by vince32837 View Post

Just wanted to jump into the thread, picked up the 65"VT50 Fri night at Best Buy. Coming from my dinosaur Pioneer 53" CRT Projection in 2003, which was no slouch in its day, this TV is a beauty! Watched Spiderman 3 Blu-ray, the dark shadows and black costume details are extraordinary! No LCD can touch it, I think I made the right choice.
I have some questions as a newbie owner, I read most of the posts in this long thread but need clarification on:
1) Should I update to the latest firmware or leave the stock Oct 2012 build FW on the TV? There was mention of the latest FW not as good, cannot roll back???
2) I am probably not going to get it professionally Cal'd, just copy another guys settings on this forum. THX cinema look pretty awesome out of the box! I heard first 100-150 hours are critical for burn, so as long as I stay away from History channel logo stuff I should be ok? what about at hour 125, can I start to watch shows with a logo bottom right corner or never if I dont want burn-in?
Thanks Vince

You probably have the latest firmware already installed, 1.17
Here is a link for firmware updates, http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P65VT50?t=downloads&support#tabs

Break-in is not that big of a deal, unless you are going to have your TV Calibrated.

Chanel logo's are always a problem, if your TV is new or has 1500 hours on it. Use your THX cinema settings without raising the contrast or brightness for a week or two. Don't change the screen brightness setting.
You may want drop sharpness to 0, enhancements are up to you but only if you can see a real change that you like, other wise they can hurt your PQ as much as they can help..
Very your viewing programs, run the scrolling bar if you see IR is setting in.

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post #7519 of 12311
11/12/12 at 7:48am
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Originally Posted by Vette1992 View Post

It was ISF calibrated from Value Electronics. They are supposed to be quite reputable. THX Cinema mode is just way too dark. I factory reset the device but it did not get any better.
Dwayne

Try this: use custom mode. Go to pro settings. Reset to defaults to center (zero out) the settings.. Make sure panel brightness is set to Mid. Press return. Set contrast to 87 and brightness to 56. These are just ballpark numbers, but they will do for now. Watch some blurays, sports games, what have you. Watch during day and night. If you still think it's too dark after a few days, then I'm afraid this tv is not for you.
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11/12/12 at 8:12am
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

You probably have the latest firmware already installed, 1.17
Here is a link for firmware updates, http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P65VT50?t=downloads&support#tabs
Break-in is not that big of a deal, unless you are going to have your TV Calibrated.
Chanel logo's are always a problem, if your TV is new or has 1500 hours on it. Use your THX cinema settings without raising the contrast or brightness for a week or two. Don't change the screen brightness setting.
You may want drop sharpness to 0, enhancements are up to you but only if you can see a real change that you like, other wise they can hurt your PQ as much as they can help..
Very your viewing programs, run the scrolling bar if you see IR is setting in.
ss

SS,

thanks for the tips, will do

Vince
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11/12/12 at 12:29pm
Just saw the VT50 next to the Samsung E8000 at BB Magnolia, and to my surprise the Samsung was much sharper. I've not noticed that much difference before. Sharpness on the VT50 was set to 50. Both TVs were displaying the same content from ESPN and Fox Sports. I believe both of those are 720p channels. I don't know if DirectTV upscales to 1080i or they send it out native 720p. It was most noticable on the graphics and text.

Michael
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11/12/12 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

Ok. Starting to think I am cursed. 1st vt50 = dead pixels. 2nd vt50 = terrible plasma buzz and fingerprints under glass front. 3rd vt50 (from a different store with different manufacture date as first two ) = dead pixels again! WTF!!! Will try for a 4th time tomorrow but starting to think the quality control for Panasonic is utter crap.
Finally... On the 4th set.... One with no dead pixels and no buzz whatsoever. October 2012 manufacture date compared to May and July with the other 3.
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11/12/12 at 12:54pm
Hello Everyone, I tried my best to read as many of the posts on this thread so that I wouldn't be asking questions that have already been asked,
except I realize that I won't be able to do that. I hope you can be patient with me and not be to annoyed about repeat questions.

Just ordered the 65" VT50 from Best Buy, could have bought it from a smaller store, decided to go with BB thinking that if there are any issues
they would resolve them quickly .... They wanted me to buy there extended warranty, said that people sometime get burn in and BB with that
warranty just replaces the TV. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Should I get that warranty, the TV comes with a 1 Year warranty and my CC
matches that for another year. Whats so great about the BB warranty? It's also very expensive....

The last pages of posts on this thread some people have said they HATE this TV that it's dark and overall the picture quality is not as sharp as
a Samsung. This is worrying, as I read all the reviews on this TV and from what I learnt it's possibly the best TV out there unless you look at the
sharp Elite at double the price. I hope I won't be disappointed.

Can someone tell me how I break it in? Does it come with break in Slides? Or do I have to buy those? I bought a Pioneer 6010 around 6 years
ago and completely forgotten how I set it up.... so really would appreciate help setting this up.

As this is a 3D TV, can you advise as to where I would get the right HDMI cables from? BB has them for $129 I thought this was too expensive
for cables so didn't get them ... Can you advice which cables I should get? Really just need it connecting to my Verizon Fios Box for now.

Also when is the best time to calibrate it? after the 150 hours of break in? I was told not to do this break in all at one time, to do it over a 30 day
period? Any thoughts on this? and Has any one had their TV calibrated from BB? Are their guys good? ...

Thank you all very much ...
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post #7524 of 12311
11/12/12 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

Finally... On the 4th set.... One with no dead pixels and no buzz whatsoever. October 2012 manufacture date compared to May and July with the other 3.

@cmay91472 ..... How would I know that I have any dead pixels? How can I check for this? and may I ask where you bought the TV from? have they been
good about exchanging it for you? I am really concerned about this, I just ordered mine and it should be here at the end of the week...
Thanks.... Buzz? I heard these TV's had no buzz whatsoever....

Oh and I forgot to ask in my last post.... Do any of you use a Sound Bar? If so which do you recommend? One that fits in well with the TV?
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11/12/12 at 1:33pm
Okay so another question, has anyone used Audioquest's cinnamon HDMI cable with these TV's?
Otherwise can you tell me which HDMI cable should one use as this is a 3D TV and requires a
certain type of cable, i have been told... Also I am guessing that with a TV like this one should spend
a little bit more than the cheap HDMI cables? Can any of you suggest which brand and where I can
order it from?
Thanks
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11/12/12 at 1:55pm
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Originally Posted by seabreeze82 View Post

Okay so another question, has anyone used Audioquest's cinnamon HDMI cable with these TV's?
Otherwise can you tell me which HDMI cable should one use as this is a 3D TV and requires a
certain type of cable, i have been told... Also I am guessing that with a TV like this one should spend
a little bit more than the cheap HDMI cables? Can any of you suggest which brand and where I can
order it from?
Thanks

Monoprice.com. All HDMI cables are the same. I'm guessing the person telling you that was trying to sell you one?
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11/12/12 at 2:00pm
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Originally Posted by seabreeze82 View Post

Hello Everyone, I tried my best to read as many of the posts on this thread so that I wouldn't be asking questions that have already been asked,
except I realize that I won't be able to do that. I hope you can be patient with me and not be to annoyed about repeat questions.
Just ordered the 65" VT50 from Best Buy, could have bought it from a smaller store, decided to go with BB thinking that if there are any issues
they would resolve them quickly .... They wanted me to buy there extended warranty, said that people sometime get burn in and BB with that
warranty just replaces the TV. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Should I get that warranty, the TV comes with a 1 Year warranty and my CC
matches that for another year. Whats so great about the BB warranty? It's also very expensive....
The last pages of posts on this thread some people have said they HATE this TV that it's dark and overall the picture quality is not as sharp as
a Samsung. This is worrying, as I read all the reviews on this TV and from what I learnt it's possibly the best TV out there unless you look at the
sharp Elite at double the price. I hope I won't be disappointed.
Can someone tell me how I break it in? Does it come with break in Slides? Or do I have to buy those? I bought a Pioneer 6010 around 6 years
ago and completely forgotten how I set it up.... so really would appreciate help setting this up.
As this is a 3D TV, can you advise as to where I would get the right HDMI cables from? BB has them for $129 I thought this was too expensive
for cables so didn't get them ... Can you advice which cables I should get? Really just need it connecting to my Verizon Fios Box for now.
Also when is the best time to calibrate it? after the 150 hours of break in? I was told not to do this break in all at one time, to do it over a 30 day
period? Any thoughts on this? and Has any one had their TV calibrated from BB? Are their guys good? ...
Thank you all very much ...

Burn-in generally is not an issue anymore, but if you are concerned, go with the BB Warranty as I don't know of any other warranty providers that cover it. Personally, I went with the Costco 3 year warranty for $100.

You won't be disappointed by the picture quality.

Break in isn't necessary in - just watch a good mix of content for the first few hundred hours. Waiting the same period to calibrate seems to be a good idea.

I haven't heard great things about BB Calibration - however, you likely get a free one through the Premier Rewardzone package, and therefore I would go with that instead of paying someone a few hundred bucks to do it. To me, THX mode looks pretty darn good.
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11/12/12 at 2:20pm
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Originally Posted by seabreeze82 View Post

@cmay91472 ..... How would I know that I have any dead pixels? How can I check for this? and may I ask where you bought the TV from? have they been
good about exchanging it for you?
Thanks.... Buzz? I heard these TV's had no buzz whatsoever....

The first thing I did with each of the four sets was to check for dead, stuck or flashing pixels by using the break in slides. If you do have any, it will be obvious when viewing the slides. As soon as the whitest slide came on, then I knew if the TV was a "buzzer" or not. All three of the returned sets had buzz to some degree. The two with dead pixels was moderate. The one without the dead pixels was severe. The new set with the Oct. build date is virtually quiet.

The first two sets I had gotten from a mom and pop shop in the Philly Suburbs (Both with May 2012 build dates). After the second lemon, I asked for a refund and they said no problem. I then purchased the third set at BB (July 2012 build date). It wound up having dead pixels also. The 4th was the an exchange with BB. BBs return policy is now in the holiday return period if purchased after Nov 4 so you have until January 25th to return any item no questions asked.
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post #7529 of 12311
11/12/12 at 4:21pm
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Originally Posted by Michael2000 View Post

Just saw the VT50 next to the Samsung E8000 at BB Magnolia, and to my surprise the Samsung was much sharper. I've not noticed that much difference before. Sharpness on the VT50 was set to 50. Both TVs were displaying the same content from ESPN and Fox Sports. I believe both of those are 720p channels. I don't know if DirectTV upscales to 1080i or they send it out native 720p. It was most noticable on the graphics and text.
Michael

DirecTV does not rescale 720p content; they send it out native.
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11/12/12 at 4:39pm
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Originally Posted by Michael2000 View Post

Just saw the VT50 next to the Samsung E8000 at BB Magnolia, and to my surprise the Samsung was much sharper. I've not noticed that much difference before. Sharpness on the VT50 was set to 50. Both TVs were displaying the same content from ESPN and Fox Sports. I believe both of those are 720p channels. I don't know if DirectTV upscales to 1080i or they send it out native 720p. It was most noticable on the graphics and text.
Michael

Were they both set to "Standard" pic setting and reset to be sure?

bob
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