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post #7951 of 13476
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Originally Posted by robnix View Post

Interesting, because the Blu-ray uses the same VC-1 encode that the HD-DVD used. Did you actually compare the two after getting the HD-DVD set? Could it just be the new TV?

I didn't watch them back to back - but just from memory I could tell the HD was alot crisper looking than the BluRay. The BluRay seemed a bit smooth looking to me. It also seemed that the fleshtones on the HD were more accurate. I will watch a few scenes back to back sometime to verify my bias.

Then again... the real difference may be between the HD-AX2 playback quality vs the PS3 I use for BluRays.
Edited by Bamadawg_63 - 12/4/12 at 8:50am
post #7952 of 13476
Does anyone have any tricks to watch ESPN3 (http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index) full screen using the web browser on the 65VT50?

Sometimes I can get it to work by clicking the full screen icon after it's fully loaded and is playing in the small window, but lately that just causes it to close. I thought I found another way to do it by clicking the full screen icon before it starts playing and is still loading but that doesn't consistently work either and will just close sometimes.

Has anyone found a consistent way to watch ESPN3 full screen in the TV's web browser? I also have a Sony BDPS790 but it's web browser won't even load the page because it doesn't have the correct version of flash.

Thanks for any tips.
post #7953 of 13476
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Originally Posted by stevel View Post

I cannot hear my VT50's fans unless I put my ear up to the back panel. Mine is sitting on a stand, not wall-mounted. (It occurs to me that wall-mounting could exaggerate the sounds.)
As for buzzing, I can hear it on a full-screen white, but only if there is no other sound in the room and I am right next to the TV. If the picture level is not 100%, the buzzing disappears. If I am actually watching TV (with sound), rather than playing test patterns with the speakers off, I hear no sounds from the TV itself.

That's more or less my experience, although on full-screen white, I can hear mine at several feet away with no TV and room sound.
post #7954 of 13476
Panasonic is replacing the A Board on my VT50. Can someone explain to me exactly what the A board is or does?
post #7955 of 13476
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Originally Posted by stevel View Post

I cannot hear my VT50's fans unless I put my ear up to the back panel. Mine is sitting on a stand, not wall-mounted. (It occurs to me that wall-mounting could exaggerate the sounds.)
As for buzzing, I can hear it on a full-screen white, but only if there is no other sound in the room and I am right next to the TV. If the picture level is not 100%, the buzzing disappears. If I am actually watching TV (with sound), rather than playing test patterns with the speakers off, I hear no sounds from the TV itself.

Same for me. I have mine on a stand and can only hear the fans when my head is right next to or behind the TV.
post #7956 of 13476
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Originally Posted by robnix View Post

Same for me. I have mine on a stand and can only hear the fans when my head is right next to or behind the TV.

Plus 2
post #7957 of 13476
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Originally Posted by robnix View Post

Same for me. I have mine on a stand and can only hear the fans when my head is right next to or behind the TV.

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Plus 2

Do you have the sound on or off and is there any other noise in the house when you say you can't hear it from your sitting position? What is the temperature in the room? I wonder of the room temp affects the fan speed.
post #7958 of 13476
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Plus 2

Plus 3
post #7959 of 13476
The temperature in my living room is around 63. But I can't hear the fan from the front of the TV at all, even after I ran it with "slides" for five days continuous. I certainly can't hear it if there's any sound from the program material.
post #7960 of 13476
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Originally Posted by Mac13 View Post

Do you have the sound on or off and is there any other noise in the house when you say you can't hear it from your sitting position? What is the temperature in the room? I wonder of the room temp affects the fan speed.

I'm about 8 ft from the TV. If I turn my AVR off I can't hear the fans in the TV, there's also no noticible buzzing. Our house is at 72.
post #7961 of 13476
okay, I just got home from calibrating the 65VT50. Its my favorite display now. The natural tone of skin was enough to sell me. It was in a darkish basement room and fit perfectly. I have to say though that its a large size, but I could definitely see getting about an 80 inch. The main seating was about 12 feet eyes to screen. The 3D after cal. looked great watching The Avengers BD. The glasses weren't that bad on your face and didn't bother my eyes like the older shutter glasses did. The set offsets the tint from the glasses so the image was very well balanced. The owners said they even noticed a difference in the depth and tones in the 3D. Overall, if you can get one Id say jump on it. I had ZERO problems with IR while calibrating and leaving patterns on screen for minutes at a time. The sheer amazing accuracy and quality of shadows is outstanding. Cant wait to setup another one.
post #7962 of 13476
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Originally Posted by robnix View Post

Same for me. I have mine on a stand and can only hear the fans when my head is right next to or behind the TV.

Plus 4 ;-)

zero buzzing, fans only noticeable if you are behind TV, absolutely not when in front or when volume is on...

mine is a on a stand as well...
post #7963 of 13476
Hi everyone!
First: furnishing, carpeting and all things that cushion the sound from speakers - do not cushion the sound from fans! It is too direct, and bounces of the rear wall more than anything, directly to you.
So, if you are trying to silent the fans, do something with your rear wall! Mine is covered with cork tiling, and it sucks up all the sound that goes toward it, including the fan noise. Same would be with curtains or any surface other than firm, rigid and even wall. It will also silence the buzzing, which also cannot be silenced by the big sofa!

And to the Kuro guys from previous posts (I can't help it): Kuro was great... WAS. Let it RIP, it is beaten 2-3 years ago by a large, firstly in dark details, and many other picture aspects. Which is enough for me to consider it obsolete. It still is the darkest TV around, but darkest does not equal best! Enjoy it!
post #7964 of 13476
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Originally Posted by luka3rd View Post

Hi everyone!
First: furnishing, carpeting and all things that cushion the sound from speakers - do not cushion the sound from fans! It is too direct, and bounces of the rear wall more than anything, directly to you.
So, if you are trying to silent the fans, do something with your rear wall! Mine is covered with cork tiling, and it sucks up all the sound that goes toward it, including the fan noise. Same would be with curtains or any surface other than firm, rigid and even wall. It will also silence the buzzing, which also cannot be silenced by the big sofa!
And to the Kuro guys from previous posts (I can't help it): Kuro was great... WAS. Let it RIP, it is beaten 2-3 years ago by a large, firstly in dark details, and many other picture aspects. Which is enough for me to consider it obsolete. It still is the darkest TV around, but darkest does not equal best! Enjoy it!

I had a 9G Kuro take a crap on me over the summer. Sad day for me and my wife mad.gif I am probably going to buy the 65" VT50 with my Christmas bonus. It's the only set I feel comfortable replacing my Kuro with. I've tested this set and can say if you are a calibrator, you will love it! Its got pretty much near perfect color accuracy.
post #7965 of 13476
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Originally Posted by Mac13 View Post

So I have been watching my 65VT50 for a couple of days now since I finished the slides and I have a couple of comments. I know others have asked about buzzing and some say that you shouldn't hear any buzzing from farther then a few feet but I sit about 10 feet from the TV and can hear buzzing when the screen goes to a mostly white picture. Both my Pioneer 5020 and KRP-500M did the same thing and I would say the buzzing is pretty consistent with those two displays. I tend to think the buzzing in this situation is normal and those people out there saying it shouldn't buzz need to get their ears checked or maybe they have more background noise that is drowning the buzzing out. I suppose room acoustics could also affect this but I have carpeted floors and a regularly furnished bonus room that shouldn't be making the buzzing more pronounced.
Secondly, and to the more concerning and noticeable noise with the TV is the FANS. I am surprised at how much you can hear the fans. It doesn't sound abnormal or high pitched or anything. It just sounds like some computer fans or something. If the TV isn't up super loud (baby in other room) you can definitely hear the fans. They are noticeable during standard viewing and normal volume levels. Do they really need the fans on all the time? I'm pretty sure my Kuros' fans never turned on. Currently, I have the TV sitting about a foot from the wall but I plan on wall mounting the TV this week so I am curious to see if the fan noise gets worse, better, or stays about the same once it is on the wall. I also usually use a 5.1 system for all content watching (even TV shows) but am currently using the TV speakers because I don't have room for my center channel speaker until I mount the TV on the wall. I will have to see if using the surround sound helps drown out the fan noise.
The fan noise is definitely louder then the buzzing usually is and honestly it is pretty annoying. I know some of you are going to say that it must be defective but I really don't think it is defective. The fans don't sound defective. They sound like fans moving air...
Anyone else notice the fan noise? Do you have it on the wall or stand mounted?

Until your post I had no idea there were fans in my new 65VT50. I have been running slides non-stop for almost a week and haven't heard anything fan like (with no other noise in the room). I am stand mounted.

I do hear buzzing but only on the full white slides and only with no other audio. Under normal viewing and with sound on I would never hear a thing.
post #7966 of 13476
I am in doubt whether to buy a VT50 or an ST50 accompanied with a Radiance Mini3D. I want the best possible picture. Which would allow for better picture in your opinion?
post #7967 of 13476
They all buzz in rhythmic patterns, all of them. Watch Family Guy. If you can't hear it, I envy you, but it's there. The set is absolutely incredible as far as blacks and picture go but if you're sensitive to sound, don't buy it. I have the 65" and I can easily hear it from 15ft away during a bright scene.
post #7968 of 13476
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Originally Posted by copene View Post

They all buzz in rhythmic patterns, all of them. Watch Family Guy. If you can't hear it, I envy you, but it's there. The set is absolutely incredible as far as blacks and picture go but if you're sensitive to sound, don't buy it. I have the 65" and I can easily hear it from 15ft away during a bright scene.

Sounds like you got a lemon if you can here from 15ft away.
post #7969 of 13476
No I got what everyone else got. The room has to be dead silent, if there is ambient noise and what not it's good to go. Midnight with the baby sleeping, there it is. Just set up an ST50, buzzed. Floor models at 3-4 stores, buzzed. It is what it is. I still love the thing, I'm just being honest.
post #7970 of 13476
The harmonics in a room and where the tv is placed plays a big part of hearing buzz and the fans. In one room a tv could almost be silent but take that tv into a room with wood floors and wall mount it and you can hear it from 12 feet back.
post #7971 of 13476
It's funny, I tend to agree they all buzz, but I wonder about this claim of "rhythmic patterns". The buzzing comes from the screen being predominantly white/bright. I notice it on commercials when I'm fast forwarding past them (no sound) and they end with a white "card".

I'm also of the belief that room makes a huge difference (what is behind the TV, what's on the floor) and that unit-to-unit variation may exist in a meaningful way.

I've considered a service call for mine, which I believe is louder than some people's here, though rarely loud enough to annoy. But, for example, it's noticeable in Xbox menus.
post #7972 of 13476
I went through 3 PN64E8000s with a very annoying directional buzzing before my VT50. With my VT50, I hear nothing that I would call a buzz. No fan noise either. Perhaps if I got really close to the TV and tried to hear SOMETHING, I might pick up on it, but why run the risk of hearing a noise that then sticks with me while I am sitting from a distance and watching normal programming. Ignorance is bliss!
post #7973 of 13476
Well! Wife just called me to tell me my Work Christmas Bonus just showed up in our bank account! Time to order up the 65" VT50!biggrin.gif
post #7974 of 13476
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Originally Posted by Adamd View Post

The harmonics in a room and where the tv is placed plays a big part of hearing buzz and the fans. In one room a tv could almost be silent but take that tv into a room with wood floors and wall mount it and you can hear it from 12 feet back.

Absolutely correct. You can have a pair of Seaton subs that can sound bad in a room too if not set up correctly! I spoke to the panasonic service center guys and they said if you don't hear buzzing on a light scene while muted he would be more concerned than if you said it was "too loud". Now that is pretty telling about the buzz. The only way to get a silent VT50 is to not take it out of the box. On a positive note, I'm shocked that it performs so damn well in a bright room! I have window covering the entire wall in the room it's in and it still is VERY watchable during the day.
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Would anyone mind to share their personal settings for gaming PS3/Xbox?
post #7976 of 13476
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

Well! Wife just called me to tell me my Work Christmas Bonus just showed up in our bank account! Time to order up the 65" VT50!biggrin.gif

So jealous...my next bonus/commission comes in February, then I'm replacing my 60" Samsung LED with the 65" VT50.
post #7977 of 13476
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Originally Posted by Oh2Smooth View Post

Until your post I had no idea there were fans in my new 65VT50. I have been running slides non-stop for almost a week and haven't heard anything fan like (with no other noise in the room). I am stand mounted.
I do hear buzzing but only on the full white slides and only with no other audio. Under normal viewing and with sound on I would never hear a thing.

Thanks for the post. How long are/did you run the slides? Are you planning on getting the unit professionally calibrated i.e. ISF certified technician?
post #7978 of 13476
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Originally Posted by para-Neophyte View Post

Thanks for the post. How long are/did you run the slides? Are you planning on getting the unit professionally calibrated i.e. ISF certified technician?

I've been running them non-stop (24hours a day) for 6 days since I bought the set. I do watch regular TV in the evenings but am careful about static logos/letterboxed material. I am done with them today though.

They are the standard breakin slides referred to on here and on the net.
http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/hdtv-video-displays-processors/52673-plasma-break-how-properly-break-your-new-plasma-display.html
20 slides and you just set the TV into slideshow mode after adjusting to some more reasonable (not torch-mode) settings.

I don't plan on calibrating immediately. I'm super happy with the quality I'm getting with settings found on the net/here and will keep tinkering.
post #7979 of 13476
Does anyone know how to properly clean a smudge on the vt50? All I have managed to do was make the smudge larger with using a T-shirt.
post #7980 of 13476
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Originally Posted by Famouss View Post

Does anyone know how to properly clean a smudge on the vt50? All I have managed to do was make the smudge larger with using a T-shirt.

The manual has screen cleaning instructions. Clean it when the screen is completely cooled off.
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