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post #8101 of 12223
12/9/12 at 5:23pm
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My wife has one gripe about the VT50. When it powers on, the after-image of the "Smart Viera" logo is visible for a little while. You'd think that they'd make it a bit dimmer. Of course, after a short time it's no longer visible, but still....

That's curious - i get absolutely no after-image of that logo on my GT50. I was initially concerned about this but upon careful examination it's not an issue on my set.

I wonder if this is related to why some people are geting persistent IR on their 2012 models while others are not.
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post #8102 of 12223
12/9/12 at 5:43pm
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Originally Posted by redgate7 View Post

Uneveness, meaning some areas of the TV were brighter or darker than others? Would that be an issue similar to the one I am facing? What do you think is causing it?
And when you say didn't you didn't burn it in long enough, do you mean run the slides? I've run the slides for little over 100 hours and am facing seeing the bright spot. Do you think if I run them longer, there is a chance it will go away?
Sorry for all the questions, but I don't want to go through the hassle of boxing up the TV and lugging it back to the store if this issue will go over way with additional use.
Thanks.

What I'm saying is that in my case, just using it longer evened it out. Using the panel prep slides would probably accomplish the same thing....maybe in less time.

Be sure to turn off pixel orbiter.
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post #8103 of 12223
12/9/12 at 5:59pm
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Originally Posted by stevel View Post

My wife has one gripe about the VT50. When it powers on, the after-image of the "Smart Viera" logo is visible for a little while. You'd think that they'd make it a bit dimmer. Of course, after a short time it's no longer visible, but still....

Odd.

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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

That's curious - i get absolutely no after-image of that logo on my GT50. I was initially concerned about this but upon careful examination it's not an issue on my set.
I wonder if this is related to why some people are geting persistent IR on their 2012 models while others are not.

Maybe, because I have absolutely no image persistence from my logo either.
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post #8104 of 12223
12/10/12 at 12:28am
Hi guys,
Just need help, I need to buy some more 55vt50 glasses. But is they any other better ones people prefer or are the panasonic ones good enough?

And also is it worth calibrating my tv? Or can I just get some picture settings which I can put in myself(just trying to save money)....

I am based in u.k England by the way
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post #8105 of 12223
12/10/12 at 5:12am
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Originally Posted by latinoking085 View Post

Hello everyone, first post here in the forums. I currently have a 65" vt50 and wanted to know if anyone is experiencing the same issue I woke up to this morning. Refer to photo shown below sorry tried taking with my phone but due to the angle it's hard so see.

When you look left of the screen you can see it when you also look from the right of the screen you can see it as we'll. But from top top bottom and vise versa it does not show up at all. When you "gently" touch the area with a cloth the spot spreads out in the direction your wiping it. Turned tv off for 10 minutes and its gone now. Front glass seems warped "wavy" from side views. To clarify tv was only on for 2 hours this morning till noticing && over 100hours on set.
Video ---below
http://s1293.beta.photobucket.com/user/Mgarza85/media/IMG_0378.mp4.html

I have no idea what that is, doesn't look good though. Looks as if there's liquid behind the screen or something I'd call support and see what they can do. Fix it or replace.
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post #8106 of 12223
12/10/12 at 6:24am
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

Odd.
Maybe, because I have absolutely no image persistence from my logo either.

I have this too. It didn't do it until I hooked everything up to my AVR. When I power everything on via my Harmony One, it cycles through turning on the receiver, TV, etc. Mine disappears when the screen "resets". Its not that it fades away after "Onkyo" and "Viera" logos are up, the screen literally refreshes after everything is powered on and goes to a completely black screen. A split second later the cable and or blu ray is ready to go.
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post #8107 of 12223
12/10/12 at 10:32am
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Originally Posted by jcm304 View Post

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There are some junk stands out there for sure. Tech Craft ABS60, for example, will not break the bank and look good.
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post #8108 of 12223
12/10/12 at 12:20pm
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Originally Posted by jcm304 View Post

I have this too. It didn't do it until I hooked everything up to my AVR. When I power everything on via my Harmony One, it cycles through turning on the receiver, TV, etc. Mine disappears when the screen "resets". Its not that it fades away after "Onkyo" and "Viera" logos are up, the screen literally refreshes after everything is powered on and goes to a completely black screen. A split second later the cable and or blu ray is ready to go.

Now I'm confused. I have a Harmony, so I have everything power up and it's sort of an odd sequence in that it does.

But that has nothing to do with image persistence. It's one thing to see the TV display its logo, it's another for the logo to persist after it's off the screen.

One of those is a power-on thing; the other is an image-retention irritation.
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post #8109 of 12223
12/10/12 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

Now I'm confused. I have a Harmony, so I have everything power up and it's sort of an odd sequence in that it does.
But that has nothing to do with image persistence. It's one thing to see the TV display its logo, it's another for the logo to persist after it's off the screen.
One of those is a power-on thing; the other is an image-retention irritation.

When I first got the TV I didn't have my Onkyo receiver or any receiver for a few weeks. I would just turn the TV on solo, it say Viera, and then it would start cable viewing. There was no ghost image of Viera up. Ever since I got my receiver/harmony setup, it turns the TV on first, shows Viera, Viera goes away, ghost image stays, shows Onkyo and the input menu (Can no longer see the Viera logo), Onkyo and input menu then go away and I am left with a mesh of ghosting of Onkyo, Viera, and input menu. They all then "reset" and cable starts to play or blu ray, or whatever I pressed on my Harmony remote to turn on. This all happens in about 3 seconds as everything is being turned on. I can try to take a video of it if you guys want to see whats going on. I felt it was odd but it never stays on the screen for more than a second. And the weirdest part of all is that when the Onkyo logo pops up you can't see the ghosting of the Viera logo. Its only when they are both done showing the logo that you see a mesh of ghosted logos for a second. I can't explain whats happening. I just ignore it now.
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post #8110 of 12223
12/10/12 at 1:23pm
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Originally Posted by jcm304 View Post

When I first got the TV I didn't have my Onkyo receiver or any receiver for a few weeks. I would just turn the TV on solo, it say Viera, and then it would start cable viewing. There was no ghost image of Viera up. Ever since I got my receiver/harmony setup, it turns the TV on first, shows Viera, Viera goes away, ghost image stays, shows Onkyo and the input menu (Can no longer see the Viera logo), Onkyo and input menu then go away and I am left with a mesh of ghosting of Onkyo, Viera, and input menu. They all then "reset" and cable starts to play or blu ray, or whatever I pressed on my Harmony remote to turn on. This all happens in about 3 seconds as everything is being turned on. I can try to take a video of it if you guys want to see whats going on. I felt it was odd but it never stays on the screen for more than a second. And the weirdest part of all is that when the Onkyo logo pops up you can't see the ghosting of the Viera logo. Its only when they are both done showing the logo that you see a mesh of ghosted logos for a second. I can't explain whats happening. I just ignore it now.

Sounds like you've gotten over it, but it is a strange sequence for sure!
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post #8111 of 12223
12/10/12 at 2:15pm
Well I had my 65VT50 delivered Saturday and just had a chance to set it up today. I hooked up all my components, updated the software, and just flipped through some channels and tried the YouTube app. Everything seems great.

Is there anything I should be specifically looking for as far as potential defects? The screen appears very uniform upon first glance, and I don't have any physical damage or anything. The one thing I do notice, this being my first plasma, is a tiny bit of flicker. I'm extremely visually sensitive and I knew I would notice it, but I think I'll get used to it. The fans fired up when I was using the YouTube app, but they're not nearly as loud as my PS3 for example. Total non-issue. I plan on running slides for a few days but I'm not going go crazy with the break-in process. Mainly just run slides during the day and enjoy the TV in the evenings. My set was manufactured in October.
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post #8112 of 12223
12/10/12 at 3:56pm
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Originally Posted by mvc753 View Post

Well I had my 65VT50 delivered Saturday and just had a chance to set it up today. I hooked up all my components, updated the software, and just flipped through some channels and tried the YouTube app. Everything seems great.
Is there anything I should be specifically looking for as far as potential defects? The screen appears very uniform upon first glance, and I don't have any physical damage or anything. The one thing I do notice, this being my first plasma, is a tiny bit of flicker. I'm extremely visually sensitive and I knew I would notice it, but I think I'll get used to it. The fans fired up when I was using the YouTube app, but they're not nearly as loud as my PS3 for example. Total non-issue. I plan on running slides for a few days but I'm not going go crazy with the break-in process. Mainly just run slides during the day and enjoy the TV in the evenings. My set was manufactured in October.
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post #8113 of 12223
12/10/12 at 3:57pm
Sorry how do you get the slides?
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post #8114 of 12223
12/10/12 at 4:12pm
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Originally Posted by moe1 View Post

Sorry how do you get the slides?

I found them via a link to Panasonic ST30 DIY Calibration and Settings Thread (here on this forum) Link is in first post.
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post #8115 of 12223
12/10/12 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

I found them via a link to Panasonic ST30 DIY Calibration and Settings Thread (here on this forum) Link is in first post.

Got our own VT50 today - after it's mounted on our stand tomorrow I'm going straight to the 100 hours break-in slides (when I don't have to defer the family and let them watch a little of the new TV).
Edited by sdrucker - 12/10/12 at 5:09pm
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post #8116 of 12223
12/10/12 at 4:46pm
mvc753, when you run the slides look carefully when each of the single colors (red, blue, green) come up, making sure that every pixel is illuminated. If you have any dead pixels. this is an easy way to identify them. My first set had one dead green pixel.
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post #8117 of 12223
12/10/12 at 5:06pm
I picked up my P65VT50 last night from Best Buy but need to have someone come over to help me unbox it and put it on the stand. Does it need to be laid down on a flat surface to put the stand on or does the stand slide into a slot on the back of the TV while upright allowing one person to steady it while the other puts the screws in.
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post #8118 of 12223
12/10/12 at 5:47pm
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Originally Posted by Donat76 View Post

I picked up my P65VT50 last night from Best Buy but need to have someone come over to help me unbox it and put it on the stand. Does it need to be laid down on a flat surface to put the stand on or does the stand slide into a slot on the back of the TV while upright allowing one person to steady it while the other puts the screws in.
Don't ever lay a plasma down flat...it's supposed to be bad for them. Just follow the instructions included in the box.

I put my P55VT50 onto the stand by myself, and I can't imagine the 65" would be that much heavier. Once the stand is assembled, the panel slides on and won't fall over even if you aren't holding it. You can then secure the panel to the stand using the included screws.
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post #8119 of 12223
12/10/12 at 6:10pm
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Originally Posted by Donat76 View Post

I picked up my P65VT50 last night from Best Buy but need to have someone come over to help me unbox it and put it on the stand. Does it need to be laid down on a flat surface to put the stand on or does the stand slide into a slot on the back of the TV while upright allowing one person to steady it while the other puts the screws in.

It doesn't hurt a Plasma to lay it down when installing the stand (for years most brands/models instructions said to lay it down on a bed or large table with padding when installing the stand) but nowadays since they're so light, it's better to just lower the TV onto the stand (this eliminates the chance of scratching the bezel or screen when laying it down). I've even tipped a few Plasmas up onto their side and had my helper hold it steady while i installed the stand from the side.

Here's a post about installing the stand:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1403635/official-panasonic-gt50-series-discussion-thread-no-street-price-talk/3780#post_22441667
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post #8120 of 12223
12/10/12 at 6:27pm
Can anyone help me out??????
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post #8121 of 12223
12/10/12 at 7:03pm
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

It doesn't hurt a Plasma to lay it down when installing the stand (for years most brands/models instructions said to lay it down on a bed or large table with padding when installing the stand) but nowadays since they're so light, it's better to just lower the TV onto the stand (this eliminates the chance of scratching the bezel or screen when laying it down). I've even tipped a few Plasmas up onto their side and had my helper hold it steady while i installed the stand from the side.
Here's a post about installing the stand:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1403635/official-panasonic-gt50-series-discussion-thread-no-street-price-talk/3780#post_22441667
Thank-you! That is exactly what I was looking for. I searched the forums looking for just such a post. I bought a #3 Phillips today because I wasn't sure what size the head was. Guess I won't need it but you can never have too many tools. smile.gif The tip about leaving the screws slightly loose to adjust the tilt... would of never thought about that.
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post #8122 of 12223
12/10/12 at 7:18pm
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

What I'm saying is that in my case, just using it longer evened it out. Using the panel prep slides would probably accomplish the same thing....maybe in less time.
Be sure to turn off pixel orbiter.

Thanks Jim. I ended up returning the set. Yesterday, my wife was watching Titanic. During a scene early in the movie, while Kate and Leo were on the deck, the bright spot made it look as though the sun was trying to poke through a sea of white clouds. The fact that it was showing up while watching real content made the decision for me. Can't imagine trying to watch hockey (whenever it comes back) and seeing that annoying spot.

Between the dinged up stand and the spot, my wife is convinced the set was used. I checked the hours and confirmed no hours were logged on the set. She thinks the counter must have been reset, but I don't know how that could be done.

In any event, the new set I picked up looks good so far. No apparent bright spots, vertical lines, dead or stuck pixels. Even seems quieter than the first set.

Thanks again for your input.
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post #8123 of 12223
12/10/12 at 7:22pm
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Originally Posted by azurisk View Post

I have no idea what that is, doesn't look good though. Looks as if there's liquid behind the screen or something I'd call support and see what they can do. Fix it or replace.

Thanks for the input, did you get a chance to watch the video? the weird part is that it hasn't come back and the other part is that when you look directly at the tv you can't see it.. just from the left or the right side. Anyone have some other take on this??
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post #8124 of 12223
12/10/12 at 7:30pm
I posted this in the 2013 Panasonic thread but it's disolved into a p***ing contest (pun intended). I've decided against buying a used Elite Kuro (or even new) and getting a 65vt50 instead. I have had Elites for 6 years and have a 111fd (50 inch) right now. Anybody have any input for me? It would be appreciated.
Edited by Glashub - 12/10/12 at 7:44pm
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12/10/12 at 7:41pm
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Originally Posted by Glashub View Post

I posted this in the 2013 Panasonic thread but it's disolved into a p***ing contest (pun intended). I've decided against buying a used Elite Kuro (or even new) and getting a 65vt50 instead. I have had Elites for 6 years and have a 111fd (50 inch) right now. Anybody have any inpot for me? It would be appreciated.

We like our 65vt50 great picture quality on the presets and didn't go the slides route, instead watched blu-rays on zoom for over 100 hours and haven't had a IR at all..
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post #8126 of 12223
12/10/12 at 8:44pm
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Originally Posted by dvdmd1 View Post

To access the service menu hold down vol - and while holding down vol - press info button 3 times

What do you press to get into isf day and isf night?
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post #8127 of 12223
12/10/12 at 9:45pm
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Originally Posted by audiophiler1 View Post

What do you press to get into isf day and isf night?

Nothing, you need a program like Controlcal or calibration software like Calman to have access to ISF modes.

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post #8128 of 12223
12/10/12 at 10:46pm
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

Congrats.
You don't need to use Controlcal for your VT50, all you need is Calman to assess and control your ISF modes via LAN (socket in calman, same as you would use to connect with controlcal)) using the DCC controls of Calman. Use the DCC controls to input brightness (55), contrast (81), sharpness (0), Color temp (Warm1), screen brightness (mid), gamma (2.2), turn off all enchantments for both night and day ISF modes. Then when you run the 3D LUT cube and your Mini 3D all you have to do is use your remote to set your VT50 to one of your ISF modes and then calibrate using the 3D LUT cube workflow.
These settings are a good starting point to use with the 3D LUT cube 125 point CMS and a 21 point gray scale calibration workflow, of-course using your Mini 3D.
Using your computer, I would minimize all running programs before starting the 3D LUT cube workflow.
Also if you are using Calman, do not use 504 RC1 (as of this post), use the posted CM5E 503.
Good luck,
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SillySally,

What do you set for Colorspace in the DDC ? Normal or Wide ?

By turning off all enchantments, u mean these ?

> black extension: 0
> contour emphasis: off (uncheck)
> AGC: 0
> C.A.T.S.: off (uncheck)

Anything else I'm missing ?

Thanks.

- M
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post #8129 of 12223
12/11/12 at 3:56am
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Originally Posted by latinoking085 View Post

Thanks for the input, did you get a chance to watch the video? the weird part is that it hasn't come back and the other part is that when you look directly at the tv you can't see it.. just from the left or the right side. Anyone have some other take on this??

I saw the video, i would worry about it becoming visible while looking directly at it. Just call support and see what they say.
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12/11/12 at 3:57am
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

Nothing, you need a program like Controlcal or calibration software like Calman to have access to ISF modes.
ss

There is actually a number to press to unlock ISF modes.
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