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post #8161 of 13477
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Originally Posted by lees23 View Post

I am trying to get into panel hours. I replied to the wrong thread earlier. I scheduled a calibration and want to make sure I have enough hours.
Thanks for your help!

OK here you go again from HDJ:

Press and hold the {VOL -} button ON THE PLASMA TV.
Then press the {INFO} button on the remote control 3 times.

"Start Adjustment Menu" message will be displayed followed
by the Service Menu after few seconds.


ADJUST {Picture Adjustment}
WB-ADJUST {White Balance Adjustment}
OPTION {Option Setting}
V-SUS {V-SUS Adjustment}
AGING
SRV-TOOL {Service Tool}


{1} & {2} buttons move through options


Press the {2} button once to select "SRV-TOOL".

Then press the {OK} button to access it.

Using the cursor keys, highlight the right side
of the last item "PTCT :00.00.00.00.00" :





Then press and hold the {MUTE} button for 3 seconds.

Time and Count will be displayed in red color:




__TIME = Hours : Minutes of operation.
COUNT = Times the Plasma was powered on.


To exit, unplug the power cable.



WARNING BY BRUZZI: The {VOL+} and {VOL-} buttons are used
to change values while in the Service Menu. Make sure not to touch
those buttons when navigating menus / sub-menus.
post #8162 of 13477
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Originally Posted by PeterG View Post

OK here you go again from HDJ:
Press and hold the {VOL -} button ON THE PLASMA TV.
Then press the {INFO} button on the remote control 3 times.
"Start Adjustment Menu" message will be displayed followed
by the Service Menu after few seconds.
ADJUST {Picture Adjustment}
WB-ADJUST {White Balance Adjustment}
OPTION {Option Setting}
V-SUS {V-SUS Adjustment}
AGING
SRV-TOOL {Service Tool}
{1} & {2} buttons move through options
Press the {2} button once to select "SRV-TOOL".
Then press the {OK} button to access it.
Using the cursor keys, highlight the right side
of the last item "PTCT :00.00.00.00.00" :
Then press and hold the {MUTE} button for 3 seconds.
Time and Count will be displayed in red color:
__TIME = Hours : Minutes of operation.
COUNT = Times the Plasma was powered on.
To exit, unplug the power cable.
WARNING BY BRUZZI: The {VOL+} and {VOL-} buttons are used
to change values while in the Service Menu. Make sure not to touch
those buttons when navigating menus / sub-menus.
You're a good man Peter G! Thank you!
post #8163 of 13477
Hi there,
The VT50 is mounted and ready for 100 hours of slides fun.

However, if my wife can't resist using the TV in the meantime for an hour or so a day, what's the safest Custom settings I can use for HD content for cable TV?

I'm on HDJ but only found the Picture/Custom slide settings, and others that are after burn-in.

Thanks!
post #8164 of 13477
I suggest THX Movie.
post #8165 of 13477
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Originally Posted by stevel View Post

I suggest THX Movie.

With all the defaults I take it?
post #8166 of 13477
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Originally Posted by H Stevens View Post

SS, Are you finding that warm1 gets you closer to D6500 or are you calibrating to a different white as a preference?

Yes with the basic settings I posted for ISF (custom mode probably close also) mode you will be very close to D6500, you will also have a fair gamma ranging from 2.24 to 2.1 (+/- .50).

Also when I pre set the RGB balance using the controls (ISF mode) in my VT50 of 30%/100% IRE I only use Red and Blue never Green.
Using Custom mode I pre set the High and Low RGB balance controls using only the Red and Blue slider not Green.

Of course setting the 100% IRE is the most impotent setting (if you use the setting in CM to use your 100% for white level)) because it sets your white level.

Also for anybody that is using CM for autocal, understand that it is a hit or miss calibration. iow it may take many tries to get the one calibration that is best for what you like to see, but in most cases you should end up with a calibration that is "with-in specs". imo "with-in specs" and "your TV's limitations" are true to a point but are used to often .

ss
post #8167 of 13477
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Originally Posted by johnnylighton View Post

I just got my 65VT50 and also hear a quiet but noticeable buzz at my 12' seating position on the bright white slide, with quieter buzzing on the darker greys, just as you do. I'm hoping it lessens over time. If not, I think I will be able to live with it.

I think this is considered normal. I've read several comments about plasma "buzz" and most say that some sort of buzz/hum is expected. ( maybe due to the fan on the back of the TV?) I never heard this sound from my 55" VT50 before until last night when I was watching the TV with the mute turned on I noticed the buzz/hum of the TV from about 12' away . As soon as I turned up the TV volume again I couldn't hear the buzz. ( I have 300+ hours on my TV)
post #8168 of 13477
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

Yes with the basic settings I posted for ISF (custom mode probably close also) mode you will be very close to D6500, you will also have a fair gamma ranging from 2.24 to 2.1 (+/- .50).
Also when I pre set the RGB balance using the controls (ISF mode) in my VT50 of 30%/100% IRE I only use Red and Blue never Green.
Using Custom mode I pre set the High and Low RGB balance controls using only the Red and Blue slider not Green.
Of course setting the 100% IRE is the most impotent setting (if you use the setting in CM to use your 100% for white level)) because it sets your white level.
Also for anybody that is using CM for autocal, understand that it is a hit or miss calibration. iow it may take many tries to get the one calibration that is best for what you like to see, but in most cases you should end up with a calibration that is "with-in specs". imo "with-in specs" and "your TV's limitations" are true to a point but are used to often .
ss

As always, very informative, thank you.

I have the 55VT50 so the numbers are working out a little different. I'm using ChromaPure and after setting my contrast and brightness, I am putting up 100% white window and then selecting a color mode which kept bringing me to Warm2. I'm going to give Warm1 a shot and see how it plays out.

Gamma is another story, I can't get a handle on it yet.
post #8169 of 13477
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Originally Posted by H Stevens View Post

As always, very informative, thank you.
I have the 55VT50 so the numbers are working out a little different. I'm using ChromaPure and after setting my contrast and brightness, I am putting up 100% white window and then selecting a color mode which kept bringing me to Warm2. I'm going to give Warm1 a shot and see how it plays out.
Gamma is another story, I can't get a handle on it yet.

Your Gamma should end up at 2.2 if that is what you target your Gamma at, once you run your grayscale calibration.. I suggest using a gamma target of 2.2 for are VT50's.

Below is a normal Gamma 21 point chart (for me) after the Grayscale is run using the settings I posted, and if the LUT 125 point CMS does it job your Gamma line should be even better, expect for 90% IRE were you probably will see a slight drop below the 2.2 Gamma line.



I have never used CP, but I have always read it is on a par with CM. The reason why I use CM is because about 4 years ago D-Nice set me up with that software and trained me how to use it.

ss
post #8170 of 13477
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Originally Posted by sdrucker View Post

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Originally Posted by stevel View Post

I suggest THX Movie.

With all the defaults I take it?

Yes - it's fine for watching HD material. Really pretty good overall. Try to avoid programs with logo bugs.
post #8171 of 13477
Yes, 90% will show higher or lower and 30% to 70 % will be pretty flat. 10% and 20% seem to always read lower. With the Chromapure gamma chart, it reads up too 90% but it doesn't show 100% so I don't have a game plan with dealing with 100% yet. I may be wrong and may be missing something so I will dig deeper into the software to gain a better grasp of it's workings.

Thank you for your help.
post #8172 of 13477
My 65" VT50 is set to arrive this afternoon! I already know what to expect as I have already tested the VT50 among other TV's and I can say the VT50 blows away any top end Edge lit LED by miles and miles (Especially in a dark room) The only TV that could even hold a candle to the VT50 in my testing was the Elite, but with its poor color accuracy, and inferior motion resolution, I choose the VT50. It is on the same level as my Pioneer Elite 9G Kuro that recently died. In fact, the detail is probably better than my 60 kuro. I do not have a meter to measure blacks, but they look as deep as my Kuro did. Stoked to get this mounted and show it off to family at Christmas time!
post #8173 of 13477
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

My 65" VT50 is set to arrive this afternoon! I already know what to expect as I have already tested the VT50 among other TV's and I can say the VT50 blows away any top end Edge lit LED by miles and miles (Especially in a dark room) The only TV that could even hold a candle to the VT50 in my testing was the Elite, but with its poor color accuracy, and inferior motion resolution, I choose the VT50. It is on the same level as my Pioneer Elite 9G Kuro that recently died. In fact, the detail is probably better than my 60 kuro. I do not have a meter to measure blacks, but they look as deep as my Kuro did. Stoked to get this mounted and show it off to family at Christmas time!

Congrats. Mine comes tomorrow and will be replacing my (almost new) Samsung UN60D7000 (LED) set. I just was never satisfied with the blacks and off axis viewing in my room. I'm excited for both of us!
post #8174 of 13477
Can you see the black bars in a low lit to dark room on the vt50? Or do they blend in with the bezel? Bolt989 Congrats!!! Please post your impressions here. Thanks
post #8175 of 13477
What number did you use to contact Panasonic? I've tried calling the number but all I get are machine responses. I just bought a Panasonic TV from Amazon and the stand is tilted.
post #8176 of 13477
I just received my new 65VT50 yesterday after an incredible price match forced me into it. biggrin.gif This is replacing my Kuro 5020 that will be moved to the other room.

I'll be doing some comparisons between the two once the VT50 has had some time to break-in. After some initial tweaking, I must say the black levels look about on par with each other but I definitely see the potential to dial in this VT50 for a better overall picture. I've already been in touch with ChadB about a possible tour date up my way late next spring.
post #8177 of 13477
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Originally Posted by timmyV View Post

What number did you use to contact Panasonic? I've tried calling the number but all I get are machine responses. I just bought a Panasonic TV from Amazon and the stand is tilted.

Not sure if this will help, you might try loosening the stand's screws and then leveling the tv then tighten the screws. A lot of folks have done this with satisfactory results. Still this shouldn't happen and It's recommended to call pana and let them know. If enough people complain they may issue a fix.
post #8178 of 13477
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Originally Posted by timmyV View Post

What number did you use to contact Panasonic? I've tried calling the number but all I get are machine responses. I just bought a Panasonic TV from Amazon and the stand is tilted.

The VT50 support line: 1-877-958-4372. Panasonic may or may not be willing to send out a replacement stand because of a phone call. If bought through Amazon, and not through one of their vendors, you may have to send the unit back, at Amazon's expense and get an immediate replacement. Otherwise, it may take quite awhile to get the part of the stand that is tilted, meaning that Panasonic would send out an authorized repair service to look at it and that could take weeks before it finally shows up, during which your VT50 is probably sitting in its box. and your 30 day return window vanishes.
post #8179 of 13477
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

Congrats. Mine comes tomorrow and will be replacing my (almost new) Samsung UN60D7000 (LED) set. I just was never satisfied with the blacks and off axis viewing in my room. I'm excited for both of us!

Yeah the Samsung edge lit led sets are pretty awful if you ask me. Their ES series is even worse than their D series. I tested a ES8000 LED and it was a joke, literally. You will be much happier with the VT50. After a few months watching your VT50, you will not even want to watch your LED anymore.
post #8180 of 13477
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

Yeah the Samsung edge lit led sets are pretty awful if you ask me. Their ES series is even worse than their D series. I tested a ES8000 LED and it was a joke, literally. You will be much happier with the VT50. After a few months watching your VT50, you will not even want to watch your LED anymore.

Actually, after a calibration by W. Jeff Meier my D7000 is amazing for HD from Directv. It comes up very short for blu-ray watching however and I'm very excited! I've watched "The Dark Knight" at my local Magnolia shop and the difference is very obvious!
post #8181 of 13477
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

will be replacing my (almost new) Samsung UN60D7000 (LED) set. I just was never satisfied with the blacks and off axis viewing in my room. I'm excited for both of us!
Yes, the Panasonic will stop all over the Samsung LED's. Congrads.
post #8182 of 13477
I replaced a G20 (moved it to another room) the blacks and contrast are way ahead of the older Panosonic G20. Just using the THX Cinema mode with slight adjustments plus Directv signal is fed through an Oppo 105. I did some slight adjustments to picture using the Oppo picture adjustment also. I havn't noticed any IR issues but have been using zoom if the channel has a bright logo. Also I have the picture size set to size 1 with pixel orbiter enabled. I was a little concerned with IR after reading some posts here, but it is not an issue with my set.. I have maybe 60 hours on the set, Did not do any special break in procedure just using it as normal, watching movies, sports and news. I am very satisfied as it is, but some day I may have it calibrated curious as to how much better it can be.


A question if I get it calibrated, will it affect all modes? I would like to keep the THX Cinema mode as it is and maybe just have the custom mode calibrated?
Edited by Todd68 - 12/12/12 at 1:36pm
post #8183 of 13477
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Originally Posted by 440forpower View Post

Can you see the black bars in a low lit to dark room on the vt50? Or do they blend in with the bezel? Bolt989 Congrats!!! Please post your impressions here. Thanks

The black bars on mine are very black, even with Directv looking only at the picture the black bars blend into the bezel. The bars are a tad lighter than the bezel if you look for it. Maybe with blueray they are blacker, didn't do much blue-ray viewing yet. I have been using zoom when the picture has black bars for now, until the set gets more hours on it.
post #8184 of 13477
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

Yeah the Samsung edge lit led sets are pretty awful if you ask me. Their ES series is even worse than their D series. I tested a ES8000 LED and it was a joke, literally. You will be much happier with the VT50. After a few months watching your VT50, you will not even want to watch your LED anymore.

In my journey to the 65VT50, I tried a 60" ES6100. It was literally a joke, as you said. I have one of the first Samsung LED TVs that came out back in 09, and it blows the newer models away. You can tell it's simply a matter of Samsung using lower and lower quality components as time goes on. Every bit of it was made of the cheapest materials possible, and the stand couldn't even support the TV properly and it leaned backward. Don't get me started on the picture quality or panel uniformity.

Watching The Dark Knight Rises tonight. Can't wait. I've been running slides for three days, so it's time to give those a little break!
post #8185 of 13477
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Originally Posted by Todd68 View Post

A question if I get it calibrated, will it affect all modes? I would like to keep the THX Cinema mode as it is and maybe just have the custom mode calibrated?

You can keep the THX modes as is and jus thave Custom calibrated if you want.. or you can have the ISFccc Interface (has 4 memories Per Input, isf Day, isf Night for 2D and isf Day, isf Night for 3D) Per Input.. they will not affect the other Picture Modes like THX.
post #8186 of 13477
Just hooked up my 65VT50. The increase in the screen size makes it a worthy upgrade from my Kuro. No dead pixels. BUT I noticed that the image doesn't quite fill the screen. There's about an 1/8 inch grey sliver running vertically on the right side next to the frame. It will turn the same color is the lighter hues but stay gray when hardfer colors like red are displayed. Is there an adjustment? Could someone check and see if they have that as well? Is it anything to worry about as I run the breakin slides?

Appreciate your help.
Edited by Glashub - 12/12/12 at 6:27pm
post #8187 of 13477
You should check the settings for resolution and how the image is expanded. There should not be any unused pixels with a regular HD picture.
post #8188 of 13477
Hi Steve, you are right....putting it on zoom format fills the screen. All pixles firing. However, when I put it on full (the format that looks natural to me) the vertical sliver down the right side is there. It will turn the same color is the lighter hues but stay gray when harder colors like red are displayed. (I edited my post above to reflect this).

I gotta tell you...this is an amazing piece of technology. Will the picture prove to be as good as my Kuro? I don't know yet but this TV feels so modern..even the menu is an upgrade. In addtion it runs cool compared the Elite which was almost unwatchable in the summer.

Going from the 50" to the 65" is great.
Edited by Glashub - 12/12/12 at 7:03pm
post #8189 of 13477
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Originally Posted by Glashub View Post

Hi Steve, you are right....putting it on zoom format fills the screen. All pixles firing. However, when I put it on full (the format that looks natural to me) the vertical sliver down the right side is there. It will turn the same color is the lighter hues but stay gray when harder colors like red are displayed. (I edited my post above to reflect this).

snip

Look at this thread, especially the 4th post by rahzel. Essentially, go into setup and turn off the pixel orbiter.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1420456/panasonic-vt50-and-hd-size-cant-get-size-2-to-fill-the-screen/0_60
post #8190 of 13477
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Originally Posted by PeterG View Post

Look at this thread, especially the 4th post by rahzel. Essentially, go into setup and turn off the pixel orbiter.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1420456/panasonic-vt50-and-hd-size-cant-get-size-2-to-fill-the-screen/0_60

Thanks Peter. I appreciate your help. I've been following this thread for a long time. Guess I missed that.
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