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post #8341 of 13486
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Originally Posted by dvdmd1 View Post

I highly recommened Kevin Miller from Tweak TV,he covers the NY,NJ area,he calibrated my 65VT50 this summer and I am totally satisfied with the results,the picture is awesome.

Thanks for this. Would you mind saying how much you were charged, and how long the he took to calibrate your VT50?
post #8342 of 13486
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Use the two links at the bottom of my post. Don't worry about which models the active calibrators have listed in the "owner report" lists. The good ones can do any display that has sufficient controls.
Also check the links on any post from turbe.

Thank you.
post #8343 of 13486
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

I realize we mostly talk about picture quality for the VT50, but I'd like to say that the Vierra internet browser is a huge improvement over the one on my Samsung UN60D7000. In terms of speed, website navigation, etc. there is no comparison. Just one more reason to love this set!


I have just finished the break in period on my 65" VT 50 ..... Prior to the break in period I was not trying out any of the smart features...
My pioneer 60" had apple TV attached to it, through which I watched Netflix .... I haven't tried the internet browser as yet... will start
trying that out soon.... I would like to say that I really don't like the way Netflix plays on this TV, is there an option to have it so it isn't
cut off or make it smaller so that one can see more of it. The best Netflix Menu I have seen is via Apple TV.... I might have to buy another
apple TV to attach to this TV... Unless someone gives me a solution....

Also the the poster who had to return his VT50 for the 4th time... WOW! Either I am not seeing any of the blemishes you had on your
unit, or I am not looking for them as closely, or I think I don't know what to be looking for... I tried the Flashlight to see if I could find
fingerprints ... I could not see any... I saw a very slight scratch so slight that it's only visible if the TV is off and only if you really look
very closely... Either I am really lucky or I am missing what to be looking for...

Finally is my assumption correct, the picture on this TV keeps getting better? Am I imagining this or has everyone noticed this?

Thanks
Edited by seabreeze82 - 12/16/12 at 1:52pm
post #8344 of 13486
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Originally Posted by jamiee View Post

I'm a former 50" VT25 owner and about two weeks ago moved up to the 55" VT50.
I think in just about every way the VT50 is a nicely improved set over the VT25.
However there's one area that has been something of a disappointment with the VT50 IMO... and that's the amount of crosstalk in 3D mode.
One of the main reason's I sold my VT25 was to get a slightly larger screen and I had also hoped that the VT50 would be superior for 3D movie watching.
It's deeper blacks and better colour control are nice improvements, but the crosstalk (ghosting) is quite a bit worse and surprising to see on this newer set.
Like others have stated running the TV in 48Hz mode does help this to a large degree, but it also introduces a subtle flicker in brighter scenes which is less than ideal.
I hope Panasonic can fix this less than stellar 3D with a firmware update... but I'm doubtful this will happen?
It's the only major thing that seems to mar this otherwise very nice TV.


Hope you didn't reuse the glasses from the VT25. The 2012 VT50 requires new RF glasses (vs. the older style IR glasses).
post #8345 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

Glas, I had. 9g kuro that died recently, id say the vt50 is on par with it. The vt50 has better color accuracy and to me has smoother shadow gradations. Its so close that it would be difficult for me to tell a major difference. Im glad the vt50 is a kuro like experience for my family and I. It is the only tv I feel meets those demands.

That's good news. I love that old TV as much as one can love an inanimate object. Just wanted a bigger screen but didn't want to fork out 3k for a used 60" Elite and didn't want to go the 6020 route after owning an Elite.
post #8346 of 13486
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Originally Posted by seabreeze82 View Post

I have just finished the break in period on my 65" VT 50 ..... Prior to the break in period I was not trying out any of the smart features...
My pioneer 60" had apple TV attached to it, through which I watched Netflix .... I haven't tried the internet browser as yet... will start
trying that out soon.... I would like to say that I really don't like the way Netflix plays on this TV, is there an option to have it so it isn't
cut off or make it smaller so that one can see more of it. The best Netflix Menu I have seen is via Apple TV.... I might have to buy another
apple TV to attach to this TV... Unless someone gives me a solution....
Also the the poster who had to return his VT50 for the 4th time... WOW! Either I am not seeing any of the blemishes you had on your
unit, or I am not looking for them as closely, or I think I don't know what to be looking for... I tried the Flashlight to see if I could find
fingerprints ... I could not see any... I saw a very slight scratch so slight that it's only visible if the TV is off and only if you really look
very closely... Either I am really lucky or I am missing what to be looking for...
Finally is my assumption correct, the picture on this TV keeps getting better? Am I imagining this or has everyone noticed this?
Thanks

I don't have any of the problems he's had. I've nevr heard of anyone having to go through 4 displays.
post #8347 of 13486
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Originally Posted by para-Neophyte View Post

Had same issues with the slides-download using a Mac. My alternative, with the use of a PS3, import a music cd onto the hard drive then set the visualizer to one that washes the entire display in a myriad of colors. Check youtube for this alternate break-in process.

Another good idea for those wanting to break-in their new VT50's. Thank you.
post #8348 of 13486
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Originally Posted by seabreeze82 View Post

I have just finished the break in period on my 65" VT 50 ..... Prior to the break in period I was not trying out any of the smart features...
My pioneer 60" had apple TV attached to it, through which I watched Netflix .... I haven't tried the internet browser as yet... will start
trying that out soon.... I would like to say that I really don't like the way Netflix plays on this TV, is there an option to have it so it isn't
cut off or make it smaller so that one can see more of it. The best Netflix Menu I have seen is via Apple TV.... I might have to buy another
apple TV to attach to this TV... Unless someone gives me a solution....
I do not like applications myself, when i want to go on the web I do not want to be limited, I run a laptop thru HDMI wink.gif
post #8349 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

I do not like applications myself, when i want to go on the web I do not want to be limited, I run a laptop thru HDMI wink.gif

But if I just want to check my subscriptions on AVS during commercial breaks, it's really handy! I would never use it for serious web surfing.
post #8350 of 13486
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Originally Posted by nabsltd View Post

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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Any HDTV channel should have an aspect ratio of 1.78:1 (16x9).
Not quite true, as the local OTA CBS station has a 10 pixel black bar at the bottom of the 1920x1080 image on at least some programs (NCIS, for example). I don't know if the station is cropping the original signal from CBS, or that's the way the network feed is.

The VT50 in "Size 2" shows these black pixels quite visibly.
I used the correct word. Did you miss it? wink.gif

They (Comcast) does in our area. smile.gif
post #8351 of 13486
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

He is saying to use the break-in slides if you are going to use his official settings after the break-in is over. However he never posted his official settings.
imo the only reason to use break-in slides is if you are going to have it calibrated by a very good pro and need to put a few hundred hours on your display before calibration.
Ahh, yes playing with settings will have this affect. Also if you are using a disc then your disc player could have a effect on your PQ.
So many issues that are raised are from bad settings, external hardware or poor source material. The VT50 is not perfect but if one really knows what they are doing for setup and calibration, the VT50 is very good.
ss

It's all good now. I am going to have a top notch calibrate coming out and I do want to get a lot of hours on the set. I'm going to switch to the set of slides that is called a break-in set (like the ones you sent me-thanks). Slides are on a USB direct to the set.
You can use any full screen slides if you are just putting hours on your display. The reason for doing that is that phosphors burn at a more rapid rate on a new display. If you're getting a high quality calibration done, your display will hold it's calibration longer if it isn't brand new.

I think that D-Nice has asked people to follow his procedure exactly only if they plan to use his calibrated settings. I don't think that he wants to take responsibility for all the mistakes that folks continue to make. smile.gif

In your case, why not ask your calibrator about how many hours he prefers to have on the displays that he calibrates. You could also ask what he charges for a tune up on a return visit.
post #8352 of 13486
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

I do not like applications myself, when i want to go on the web I do not want to be limited, I run a laptop thru HDMI wink.gif

But if I just want to check my subscriptions on AVS during commercial breaks, it's really handy! I would never use it for serious web surfing.
Get a DVR and never watch a commercial again. biggrin.gif
post #8353 of 13486
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

50 should be the default number, right in the middle (0-100). That you leave at default.
Yes I have tried warm 2 but that has to low of a color temp setting comes in around 59K, and it tends to have a slight pink overtone in the finalized settings. When I do a manual 6 point calibration my go to is warm 1 gamma 2.2 and I sometimes use neutral higher color temp (70K) with a gamma target of 2.4 but I don't recommend using neutral with autocal.

sillysally,

thanks for the reponse. 0 is the default on my set for tint, and that is right in the middle as is color at 50, they changed the count on these 2 settings but both are at default in the middle...

Btw, color space WIDE should be the setting for Calibration... it's the raw state of the display and drags the points of the primaries and secondaries more outward (from their target) which is what you want for 125-point Autocal...

- M
post #8354 of 13486
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Originally Posted by laulau View Post

Hope you didn't reuse the glasses from the VT25. The 2012 VT50 requires new RF glasses (vs. the older style IR glasses).


Lol... no I sold the older glasses with the VT25.
They simply wouldn't work at all with the VT50 anyway wink.gif

TIP: anyone using a VT25 or VT30, try out the Sony PS3 3D glasses... I found these to be the best in terms of colour and 3D depth reproduction on my VT25.
Too bad they are IR only and won't work with the VT50. At $18-$20ea. (CAD) @ BestBuy they are an absolute bargain!



Another little oddity I've noticed with the VT50 and the RF 3D glasses is that if I turn the glasses on before any 3D content is displayed on the screen, they won't sync up with the TV and properly display the 3D content.
In this case I have to turn the glasses off and then switch them back on to sync up properly. This is even though the TV has already displayed the glasses sync notification message as soon as I initially switch the glasses on.

It's a strange oddity and mildly annoying... I suppose I could live with it This way... Just have to get used to it...
With the VT25 and IR glasses, the glasses and TV would sync up for 3D content regardless of when I turned the glasses on.
Edited by jamiee - 12/17/12 at 4:21am
post #8355 of 13486
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Originally Posted by seabreeze82 View Post

Finally is my assumption correct, the picture on this TV keeps getting better? Am I imagining this or has everyone noticed this?
Thanks

After about 100 hours mine is looking better than new. Especially notice better detail and depth to the picture, faces can seem to pop out of the screen, if that makes any sense.
post #8356 of 13486
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

You can use any full screen slides if you are just putting hours on your display. The reason for doing that is that phosphors burn at a more rapid rate on a new display. If you're getting a high quality calibration done, your display will hold it's calibration longer if it isn't brand new.
I think that D-Nice has asked people to follow his procedure exactly only if they plan to use his calibrated settings. I don't think that he wants to take responsibility for all the mistakes that folks continue to make. smile.gif
In your case, why not ask your calibrator about how many hours he prefers to have on the displays that he calibrates. You could also ask what he charges for a tune up on a return visit.

All good points and are already being executed. Display looks great, and I'll most likely have 200 hours on it before a professional calibration is done.
post #8357 of 13486
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Originally Posted by jamiee View Post

Another little oddity I've noticed with the VT50 and the RF 3D glasses is that if I turn the glasses on before any 3D content is displayed on the screen, they won't sync up with the TV and properly display the 3D content.
In this case I have to turn the glasses off and then switch them back on to sync up properly. This is even though the TV has already displayed the glasses sync notification message as soon as I initially switch the glasses on.
It's a strange oddity and mildly annoying...

I have not found that to be the case - the glasses work fine even if I turn them on before 3D content is displayed. This is with the Panasonic glasses.
post #8358 of 13486
I find that the Panasonic glasses work the best with the VT50. The 2012 Samsung glasses work also. I prefer the Panasonic ones since they are of better quality. I have a few pairs of the Samsung ones for the kids and use the panny ones for my wife and I.
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I would like to know if any VT50 owners use wireless headsets? Can anyone recommend any? Also All my components are behind a wall
as I don't want to see them, I just have a soundbar with a Subwoofer in the corner of the room.. It's a bluetooth subwoofer. I control everything
via a harmony 900 remote. I am guessing I should get a bluetooth headphone except the charging component for the headphones would have
to be plugged into the fios box in the closet behind the TV.. Would the headset still work with bluetooth? or would i need something else to control
it? Am a little confused here would really appreciate it if some of you could clarify this... I am guessing this TV has bluetooth ability?

Thank-you
post #8360 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

I find that the Panasonic glasses work the best with the VT50. The 2012 Samsung glasses work also. I prefer the Panasonic ones since they are of better quality. I have a few pairs of the Samsung ones for the kids and use the panny ones for my wife and I.

+1 2 Panny sets and 4 Samsungs here.
post #8361 of 13486
Hey how does the vt50 stack up to your sammy led set ssirica? Much better eh?
post #8362 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

Hey how does the vt50 stack up to your sammy led set ssirica? Much better eh?

It is a step up for sure. I'll admit the Samsung has a very sharp picture and is great in a bright room. Having said that, the black levels and off-axis viewing really set the Panasonic apart. biggrin.gifbiggrin.gifbiggrin.gif
post #8363 of 13486
Nice. Glad your liking it! It is currently the best picture you can buy. Its right there with my 9g kuro that recently died. The only tv i feel that can replace it. Im loving it. My wife really likes it too.
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Just received my 55-inch VT50 last week and I'm loving it! This forum has been a great source of info both in making a buying decision and in setup, so thanks everyone!

Today for the first time I tried to play some video files via USB and DLNA. SD files worked fine but I had some issues with 720p and 1080p files. For 720p, the files were watchable but with some stutter and lip sync issues. For 1080p, they would play fine for about 3 minutes and then stop completely. I initially thought it was a DLNA/network problem, so I threw them on a USB stick and had identical issues. The files are blu-ray rips encoded with the standard Handbrake profiles for Apple TV 2 or 3 (H.264, high profile 3.1, AAC and AC3 audio, M4V container). They play perfectly on the Apple TV, Mac, iPad, iPhone, etc.

Anyone else experience similar issues with HD files? Any suggestions on how to fix? I have a ton of rips, so I'd hate for the encoding profile to be the issue. DLNA isn't a must-have, but it would be pretty cool if I could get it working properly with my existing library.
post #8365 of 13486
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Originally Posted by stevel View Post

I have not found that to be the case - the glasses work fine even if I turn them on before 3D content is displayed. This is with the Panasonic glasses.


Ooops..... I found the problem. The couple of pairs of glasses that I recently tried ( I have 6) hadn't been properly initialized with the TV before hand.

After doing this, then going back and watching a 3D movie, not only do the Panasonic glasses work as they should, but the 3D quality has improved significantly!

I just watched the first 5 minutes of Finding Nemo 3D and was left in awe eek.gif
post #8366 of 13486
13 days until delivery of my 65VT50... in the meantime, the sales girl at Best Buy that pitched me on this display (even though I was already sold) mentioned that there's one kind of wireless/bluetooth keyboard that will unofficially work with the VT50 for the web browser, etc. Can anyone here be more specific about which model that might be? This is not a factory supported accessory, just something she said the community found that works...
post #8367 of 13486
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Originally Posted by stoli412 View Post

Just received my 55-inch VT50 last week and I'm loving it! This forum has been a great source of info both in making a buying decision and in setup, so thanks everyone!
Today for the first time I tried to play some video files via USB and DLNA. SD files worked fine but I had some issues with 720p and 1080p files. For 720p, the files were watchable but with some stutter and lip sync issues. For 1080p, they would play fine for about 3 minutes and then stop completely. I initially thought it was a DLNA/network problem, so I threw them on a USB stick and had identical issues. The files are blu-ray rips encoded with the standard Handbrake profiles for Apple TV 2 or 3 (H.264, high profile 3.1, AAC and AC3 audio, M4V container). They play perfectly on the Apple TV, Mac, iPad, iPhone, etc.
Anyone else experience similar issues with HD files? Any suggestions on how to fix? I have a ton of rips, so I'd hate for the encoding profile to be the issue. DLNA isn't a must-have, but it would be pretty cool if I could get it working properly with my existing library.

I use MeGUI as the front end for encoding with the x264 codec and whatever AAC codec is used by default. I always use the profile labeled High Profile - Home Theater since that is the one that is supposed to have the most compatible options that devices at least have to meet. It is similar to Handbrake that it is only a front end to a bunch of programs. As long as the bit rate you set for it is reasonable, it should work. I use the .MKV container instead of .M4V container (That shouldn't make a difference.) My encodes work on my TV so I'm afraid to tell you that you may have used too aggressive of an encoding profile or your bit rate is too high to stream reliably. If you encoded with a variable bit rate, which you probably did if you did a 2 pass encode, then during fast action scenes or where the picture changes quickly, the bit rate can shoot up and cause stuttering on those parts of the video.

Just re encode with a more compatible profile and see if that works first. That will answer your question better then other people guessing. Look at your AAC bit rate and settings too. I never re encode the AC3 stream. I just strip it out and remux it with the re encoded video.
Edited by Donat76 - 12/17/12 at 5:49pm
post #8368 of 13486
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Originally Posted by seabreeze82 View Post

I would like to know if any VT50 owners use wireless headsets? Can anyone recommend any? Also All my components are behind a wall
as I don't want to see them, I just have a soundbar with a Subwoofer in the corner of the room.. It's a bluetooth subwoofer. I control everything
via a harmony 900 remote. I am guessing I should get a bluetooth headphone except the charging component for the headphones would have
to be plugged into the fios box in the closet behind the TV.. Would the headset still work with bluetooth? or would i need something else to control
it? Am a little confused here would really appreciate it if some of you could clarify this... I am guessing this TV has bluetooth ability?
Thank-you

#1 Sony MDRDS6500 Digital Surround Headphones ( not bluetooth, but 100% wireless and pack a nice 7.1 punch via optical connection with 40mm Drivers) $300, but shop around for best price

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRDS6500-Digital-Surround-Headphones/product-reviews/B004P15HD0/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cekZVK92e8

If you have your heart set on bluetooth:
#2 LG Tone Wireless Bluetooth Stereo Headset - Retail Packaging - Black/Orange $45
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0052YFYFK/ref=cm_cr_asin_lnk
Edited by LBJ2 - 12/17/12 at 5:45pm
post #8369 of 13486
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Originally Posted by jamiee View Post

Ooops..... I found the problem. The couple of pairs of glasses that I recently tried ( I have 6) hadn't been properly initialized with the TV before hand.
After doing this, then going back and watching a 3D movie, not only do the Panasonic glasses work as they should, but the 3D quality has improved significantly!
I just watched the first 5 minutes of Finding Nemo 3D and was left in awe eek.gif

Yes, the 3d on this set is very good! Watching 3d on a good plasma is the way to go. Watch despicable me once, one of my fav 3d movies.
post #8370 of 13486
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Originally Posted by jhirsche View Post

Can anyone here be more specific about which model that might be? This is not a factory supported accessory, just something she said the community found that works...

I just powered up my Apple bluetooth keyboard and it worked fine. I'm not sure there is only one special keyboard that works.
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