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post #8551 of 13477
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Originally Posted by NJPapi1977 View Post

The input lag on the 65VT50 is much worst then last years VT30
It is bad in anything but game mode and game mode looks horrible.
Very dissapointed. Moving around xbox 360 menues lags compared to how fast it is on game mode. Very dissapointed as a gamer

That's unfortunate but is the VT50 sold as a gaming set? I am guessing input lag is way down the list of Panasonic priorities.
post #8552 of 13477
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

That's unfortunate but is the VT50 sold as a gaming set? I am guessing input lag is way down the list of Panasonic priorities.

Well considering that no tv is made for gaming or advertised as a gaming tv I think gaming is a major appeal for buying a high end tv. If not then why is game mode and taking about how great games look part of the Panasonic advertisement on their website or on Amazon.

If you are spending 3K on a tv then I think it would be ideal to provide benefits to gamers. There are a ton more people who own this tv that have consoles hooked up to it then those who do not bother to even game.
post #8553 of 13477
I just found out a big breakthrough at least for me in terms of input lag on this set. I am sure it has been mentioned here already but when I got the 65VT50 on Sunday I did not even notice any input lag in thx or custom modes. Was it as fast as game mode? No it was not but it was not a hamper to my gaming either therefore it was good for me.

But today I have noticed huge lag specially when moving through the menus of the xbox 360

Only in game mode it was not present but I dont like game mode because it looks horrible.

So I thought to myself what did I do from Sunday to today that increased the input lag on my set in thx mode or custom

Well I figured what I did and that is to have Viera Link ON.....I turned it on this morning along with blue tooth and that caused hug input lag in games.

After I posted my previous post I turned it off and now the input lag has been reduced big time in thx and custom modes.

So Viera Link is causing huge input lag which is understandable.

Very happy right now.
post #8554 of 13477
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Originally Posted by NJPapi1977 View Post

Well considering that no tv is made for gaming or advertised as a gaming tv I think gaming is a major appeal for buying a high end tv. If not then why is game mode and taking about how great games look part of the Panasonic advertisement on their website or on Amazon.
If you are spending 3K on a tv then I think it would be ideal to provide benefits to gamers. There are a ton more people who own this tv that have consoles hooked up to it then those who do not bother to even game.

Are you planning on returning it ?
post #8555 of 13477
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

Are you planning on returning it ?


Of course not....LOL....This tv is fantastic but I had issues with input lag which are not going to make me return the tv. But I figured out how to fix the input lag already so its all good now
post #8556 of 13477
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Originally Posted by NJPapi1977 View Post

Of course not....LOL....This tv is fantastic but I had issues with input lag which are not going to make me return the tv. But I figured out how to fix the input lag already so its all good now

That's good hopefully it outperforms your VT30 smile.gif
post #8557 of 13477
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Originally Posted by NJPapi1977 View Post

I figured out how to fix the input lag already so its all good now

What did u do ?
post #8558 of 13477
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Originally Posted by latinoking085 View Post

Hello everyone, first post here in the forums. I currently have a 65" vt50 and wanted to know if anyone is experiencing the same issue I woke up to this morning. Refer to photo shown below sorry tried taking with my phone but due to the angle it's hard so see.

When you look left of the screen you can see it when you also look from the right of the screen you can see it as we'll. But from top top bottom and vise versa it does not show up at all. When you "gently" touch the area with a cloth the spot spreads out in the direction your wiping it. Turned tv off for 10 minutes and its gone now. Front glass seems warped "wavy" from side views. To clarify tv was only on for 2 hours this morning till noticing && over 100hours on set.
Video ---below
http://s1293.beta.photobucket.com/user/Mgarza85/media/IMG_0378.mp4.html

Incidentally, I've found the exact same thing on mine... only detectable if looking from a 90 degree angle... it appears to be changing size (decreasing)...

since mine is pretty much dead center, it might be affecting calibrations as it is in the small pattern window...

will replace this set...


Update: 20 minutes later it has completely disappeared, TV was on for at least 6 hours when I noticed it... might have to do with the humidity in the room...
Edited by Iron Mike - 12/26/12 at 4:09am
post #8559 of 13477
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

That's unfortunate but is the VT50 sold as a gaming set? I am guessing input lag is way down the list of Panasonic priorities.

AVJ recently said that unlike previous years, this year their TVs were not aimed at Gamers because they tend to buy other types of TVs.
post #8560 of 13477
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Originally Posted by NJPapi1977 View Post

The input lag on the 65VT50 is much worst then last years VT30
It is bad in anything but game mode and game mode looks horrible.
Very dissapointed. Moving around xbox 360 menues lags compared to how fast it is on game mode. Very dissapointed as a gamer

I thought plasmas were better than lcd in regards to lag?

Been playing hours of Mortal Kombat on my sammy es8000..Runs like a champ in all standard/movie/natural. Never tried the game mode.

The flashlighting/clouding is pissing me off, so i think this set is going back. Looking into the 65in vt50.
post #8561 of 13477
The vt50 is much faster for input lag than the es8000. I have both sets and the vt50 trounces it. There is no comparison and you will have perfect uniformity without that nasty flash lighting and clouding. The 8000 is only good for bright living rooms and everyday casual tv watching. Input lag is usually always faster on plasma sets. Also you get motion blur free gaming for a far more superior gaming experience.
post #8562 of 13477
I finally got the internet connected to my VT50. It's great to be able to watch Amazon Prime movies etc. Does our TV have an hdmi output so I can run it to the receiver so that I can get surround sound? All streaming audio is coming out of the TV speakers at the moment.
post #8563 of 13477
HDMI2 is the Audio Return Channel connection. Your AV receiver would need to support the ARC feature.
post #8564 of 13477
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Originally Posted by stevel View Post

HDMI2 is the Audio Return Channel connection. Your AV receiver would need to support the ARC feature.

Thanks. I don't think my receiver supports that - it's an old Denon. BUT I am buying a Marantz sr5007 today. biggrin.gif
post #8565 of 13477
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Originally Posted by Iron Mike View Post

What did u do ?


read my previous post before that which explains it
post #8566 of 13477
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

AVJ recently said that unlike previous years, this year their TVs were not aimed at Gamers because they tend to buy other types of TVs.

That is BS...Then if that is the case then do not advertise Game Mode and how great it makes game and makes games look on their advertisement on their website.
post #8567 of 13477
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Originally Posted by cssnms View Post

I finally got the internet connected to my VT50. It's great to be able to watch Amazon Prime movies etc. Does our TV have an hdmi output so I can run it to the receiver so that I can get surround sound? All streaming audio is coming out of the TV speakers at the moment.
Optical audio output from VT50 to the AVR? You can do that right now with your current AVR.
post #8568 of 13477
I don't have an optical cable laying around anywhere unfortunately. The Marantz should arrive in a few days until then the TV speakers will suffice - they are not bad IMO for what they are.
post #8569 of 13477
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Originally Posted by 440forpower View Post

Can some of you VT50 owners post some pics of your setups? Also looking for any video too. Thanks

photo.JPG by spblat, on Flickr
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Originally Posted by emcdade View Post

Also, like another poster mentioned, in your online Harmony setup don't bother with the TV switching to any inputs if you're running everything through your receiver. It's just a wasted step and will increase the time between button press and you watching a program.

How? I don't know the trick for making Harmony skip that step. But that would be awesome.

Also I hope this isn't the wrong thread for this but we watched Hugo in 3D last night. The crosstalk was really upsetting. Afterwards I discovered two things that produced an improvement. Hopefully this helps someone googling "panasonic vt50 hugo crosstalk" biggrin.gif

1) 48Hz instead of 60Hz from 24fps content. This seems sensible to me if the crosstalk is due to the glasses' inability to keep up at high rates? Who knows. Seemed to me that 48Hz produced a 50% crosstalk improvement.

2) The 3D adjustment. From the manual: "Changes 3D depth by adjusting left-right parallax. Set to On to adjust Effect (-3 to +3)." Setting this to -2 made Hugo perfect but ruined Brave and some other content, which tends to look best with this setting off. So that tells me that crosstalk issues may vary from title to title. Weird?
post #8570 of 13477
Why in ceiph's pic does the vt30 on the ground look way better than the vt50 on the wall? I thought the vt50 was on the ground when I first saw the pic, it looked darker with more detail. Until dude said it was the vt30 on the ground.. Maybe it's just the camera pic that's makin the vt50 look washed out.
post #8571 of 13477
Sorry to interrupt wanted to find out if anyone who had owned the vt50 for a while had experienced any IR, especially with sayyy HGTV or TLC lgos from excessive wife daytime viewing? smile.gif
post #8572 of 13477
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

Sorry to interrupt wanted to find out if anyone who had owned the vt50 for a while had experienced any IR, especially with sayyy HGTV or TLC lgos from excessive wife daytime viewing? smile.gif

It can happen, but it's rare on a properly broken in VT50.
post #8573 of 13477
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

The vt50 is much faster for input lag than the es8000. I have both sets and the vt50 trounces it. There is no comparison and you will have perfect uniformity without that nasty flash lighting and clouding. The 8000 is only good for bright living rooms and everyday casual tv watching. Input lag is usually always faster on plasma sets. Also you get motion blur free gaming for a far more superior gaming experience.

Out of the box, what do you need to do so you dont get IR. Will the health bars on top of Mortal Kombat be an issue?

The IR plasma scare is scary to me spending that kind of $$.

Will have TV hooked to a Ps3 so i can stream media, use netfilx & hulu.

Thanks for your time all.

Marty
post #8574 of 13477
Anybody know if these would work as power cords? I need a longer cord than the one supplied.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10228&cs_id=1022805&p_id=6450&seq=1&format=2
post #8575 of 13477
I'm going to be placing an order for the 55 VT 50. I have the VT30 right now. I just need someones final answer!
I play a lot of xbox 360 (call of duty etc).. on the VT30 its really fast! Input lag is lacking.. what about VT50? Some people said yes, some said no.. I want a definitive answer. If there is a noticeable difference? that is a deal breaker for me.. so what say you!?

Thanks
post #8576 of 13477
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Originally Posted by mohanman View Post

I'm going to be placing an order for the 55 VT 50. I have the VT30 right now. I just need someones final answer!
I play a lot of xbox 360 (call of duty etc).. on the VT30 its really fast! Input lag is lacking.. what about VT50? Some people said yes, some said no.. I want a definitive answer. If there is a noticeable difference? that is a deal breaker for me.. so what say you!?
Thanks


ANYONE!? Well I guess I still have some time now that Amazon doesn't have their 500.00 credit at this time.
post #8577 of 13477
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

It can happen, but it's rare on a properly broken in VT50.

Scirica, thank you for your response. With it, and the lack of other responses, it seems as if its less issue and more myth, otherwise there'd be a lot of angry owners. I've just purchased my 65vt50 today.
post #8578 of 13477
What games do you play with this TV. I fear the burn-in.

I want to order one today. No local stores carry it.

Taking back the es8000 Sammy today.

Thanks all
post #8579 of 13477
Mo, its not really a issue these days. It may happen but it goes away just by watching normal content. Your in for a treat over the es8000! There is a reason the vt50 is the highest rated and awarded tv since the kuro. Dont let the led fanboys tell you otherwise. The reviews on amazon speak for themselves.
Edited by Bolt989 - 12/27/12 at 11:53am
post #8580 of 13477
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Originally Posted by Shagz View Post

What games do you play with this TV. I fear the burn-in.
I want to order one today. No local stores carry it.
Taking back the es8000 Sammy today.
Thanks all

I play call of duty and other fps games on it and I have no issues with IR. Go into it knowing it may happen and if you dont ocd about it and look for it on color slides you'll be fine. Better than looking at that poor uniformity and poor contrast ratio of the es8000. Plus you get the thx modes which look really good out of the box.
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