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post #8581 of 13486
Hello friends. Hope everyone is having a wonderful holiday season. I was hoping/praying you guys could help me out. So I bought the 65VT50 a little while ago from Cleveland Plasma (great doing business with Chris as usual) hooked the baby up and I've screwed with the settings here and there to try and get a decent picture and although the picture is "okay" I know for a fact it could be a lot better. I did a ton of research before I bought the set and after having spent a pretty penny on it, I was expecting a "blow me away" type of result from what's slated as one of the best sets on the market, something I just have not gotten until now. I'm certain it's obviously not the set and totally config related. I've had the set for a few months now and I was hoping that you guys could steer me in the right direction in terms of settings or what I should do so I can look at this damn thing and tell myself it was totally worth it spending all that $$$. It's such a downer to have invested in such a beautiful piece of equipment and not have it perform to it's maximum capability. I just bought the BDT-500 and movies look good, but i'm sure they could be stunning if I get the TV configured the way it SHOULD be. PLEASE help!!! Someone! Anyone! It would be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to some expert opinions.
post #8582 of 13486
To all the owners of the 65VT50: Does anyone sit their tv directly on top of their center channel speaker? Once I get my center channel placed, I should be ready to start watching this beauty. I just don't know if it is considered safe to try placing the tv right on top of the speaker. My cc speaker is pretty big - it's 25 lb and measures 7 3/8" x 23 7/8 x 9 1/4." The tv's pedestal stand is about 15.5 inches deep and 23.5 inches wide, and the tv with the pedestal weighs something like 106 lb.
post #8583 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Anuj Patel View Post

Hello friends. Hope everyone is having a wonderful holiday season. I was hoping/praying you guys could help me out. So I bought the 65VT50 a little while ago from Cleveland Plasma (great doing business with Chris as usual) hooked the baby up and I've screwed with the settings here and there to try and get a decent picture and although the picture is "okay" I know for a fact it could be a lot better. I did a ton of research before I bought the set and after having spent a pretty penny on it, I was expecting a "blow me away" type of result from what's slated as one of the best sets on the market, something I just have not gotten until now. I'm certain it's obviously not the set and totally config related. I've had the set for a few months now and I was hoping that you guys could steer me in the right direction in terms of settings or what I should do so I can look at this damn thing and tell myself it was totally worth it spending all that $$$. It's such a downer to have invested in such a beautiful piece of equipment and not have it perform to it's maximum capability. I just bought the BDT-500 and movies look good, but i'm sure they could be stunning if I get the TV configured the way it SHOULD be. PLEASE help!!! Someone! Anyone! It would be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to some expert opinions.

You could check out here...

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1410156/the-official-panasonic-vt50-settings-thread

or

http://www.controlcal.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=61

I recommend getting in touch with Turbe either here or on Controlcal about getting his software. It makes applying others settings or your own calibration much easier.

Good luck.
post #8584 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Anuj Patel View Post

Hello friends. Hope everyone is having a wonderful holiday season. I was hoping/praying you guys could help me out. So I bought the 65VT50 a little while ago from Cleveland Plasma (great doing business with Chris as usual) hooked the baby up and I've screwed with the settings here and there to try and get a decent picture and although the picture is "okay" I know for a fact it could be a lot better. I did a ton of research before I bought the set and after having spent a pretty penny on it, I was expecting a "blow me away" type of result from what's slated as one of the best sets on the market, something I just have not gotten until now. I'm certain it's obviously not the set and totally config related. I've had the set for a few months now and I was hoping that you guys could steer me in the right direction in terms of settings or what I should do so I can look at this damn thing and tell myself it was totally worth it spending all that $$$. It's such a downer to have invested in such a beautiful piece of equipment and not have it perform to it's maximum capability. I just bought the BDT-500 and movies look good, but i'm sure they could be stunning if I get the TV configured the way it SHOULD be. PLEASE help!!! Someone! Anyone! It would be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to some expert opinions.

Put the tv in its thx cinema picture mode. The default standard mode is horrible.
post #8585 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Anuj Patel View Post

Hello friends. Hope everyone is having a wonderful holiday season. I was hoping/praying you guys could help me out. So I bought the 65VT50 a little while ago from Cleveland Plasma (great doing business with Chris as usual) hooked the baby up and I've screwed with the settings here and there to try and get a decent picture and although the picture is "okay" I know for a fact it could be a lot better. I did a ton of research before I bought the set and after having spent a pretty penny on it, I was expecting a "blow me away" type of result from what's slated as one of the best sets on the market, something I just have not gotten until now. I'm certain it's obviously not the set and totally config related. I've had the set for a few months now and I was hoping that you guys could steer me in the right direction in terms of settings or what I should do so I can look at this damn thing and tell myself it was totally worth it spending all that $$$. It's such a downer to have invested in such a beautiful piece of equipment and not have it perform to it's maximum capability. I just bought the BDT-500 and movies look good, but i'm sure they could be stunning if I get the TV configured the way it SHOULD be. PLEASE help!!! Someone! Anyone! It would be greatly appreciated. Looking forward to some expert opinions.

These TV's are really meant to be calibrated using a meter and calibration software.

Two options:

1) Buy a spectrophotometer and software and calibrate the TV yourself. You can get a used i1pro rev.d for under $300.00 now, and Calman 5 Control for $300.00
2) Hire a pro to do it. This will run around $500.00 or so.

It makes a HUGE difference.
post #8586 of 13486
I agree the VT50 in THX Cinama with increased contrast gives me the WOW factor, to get it perfect you would need a calibration from a skilled pro.

Good Luck!
post #8587 of 13486
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Originally Posted by ShowbizPizza View Post

To all the owners of the 65VT50: Does anyone sit their tv directly on top of their center channel speaker? Once I get my center channel placed, I should be ready to start watching this beauty. I just don't know if it is considered safe to try placing the tv right on top of the speaker. My cc speaker is pretty big - it's 25 lb and measures 7 3/8" x 23 7/8 x 9 1/4." The tv's pedestal stand is about 15.5 inches deep and 23.5 inches wide, and the tv with the pedestal weighs something like 106 lb.

I woudn't and don't do such a thing. You won't be able to tilt your center speaker up or down towards the MLP. The 65VT50 presents a problem in mounting, unless you use the pedestal stand which is what most users seem to do, according to the Panasonic repair group that came out.
post #8588 of 13486
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Originally Posted by robnix View Post

These TV's are really meant to be calibrated using a meter and calibration software.
Two options:
1) Buy a spectrophotometer and software and calibrate the TV yourself. You can get a used i1pro rev.d for under $300.00 now, and Calman 5 Control for $300.00
2) Hire a pro to do it. This will run around $500.00 or so.
It makes a HUGE difference.

I guess I got lucky with my settings, it would be impossible to improve mine a HUGE amount. Some quality films and programs look stunning, can't see what could be improved to make it better, that my eyes could see anyway.

Cheers!
post #8589 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Todd68 View Post

I guess I got lucky with my settings, it would be impossible to improve mine a HUGE amount. Some quality films and programs look stunning, can't see what could be improved to make it better, that my eyes could see anyway.
Cheers!

That is your opinion, but one not based upon seeing a professionally calibrated 65VT50.
post #8590 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Todd68 View Post

I guess I got lucky with my settings, it would be impossible to improve mine a HUGE amount. Some quality films and programs look stunning, can't see what could be improved to make it better, that my eyes could see anyway.
Cheers!

I thought my eyeball settings looked good, then I tried some of the posted settings here, even better, then I calibrated it, even better. You can really tell with darker movies.
post #8591 of 13486
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Originally Posted by robnix View Post

I thought my eyeball settings looked good, then I tried some of the posted settings here, even better, then I calibrated it, even better. You can really tell with darker movies.

This is why I plan on getting mine calibrated professionally eventually.

I would love to buy the hardware/software so I could do it, but I am letting myself get intimidated by the process.
post #8592 of 13486
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Originally Posted by fookoo_2010 View Post

That is your opinion, but one not based upon seeing a professionally calibrated 65VT50.

I guess anything can be improved some, if a pro calibration made a huge improvement over my custom settings, I would be surprised. But not saying I won't go that route sometime out of curiosity. Plus each set that gets calibrated would be at a different level of accuracy, so some would see a huge improvement some not.

If the VT 50 fails to WOW someone, it definitely needs some attention!
post #8593 of 13486
Inquiring about this tv at best buy. The head tv guy there said this will best my es8000 sammy i have. I did look over the 55in es8000 in the store for issues that mine had. He opted for me to get it calibrated. He claimed there is a difference from just setting the tv via the menu and hardware calibrating it. Said the menu settings don't stick over hardware settings?

Is there a difference from calibrating this set or any set for that matter via software/hardware?

The es8000 did have 2 more settings to choose cal night cal day that were added via hardware I guess. I asked to see the settings. He said no. I did manage to see the first screen before he closed the menu fast. Nothing stood out from what I had. Then again it was only the first screen.

Happy viewing smile.gif
post #8594 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

Mo, its not really a issue these days. It may happen but it goes away just by watching normal content. Your in for a treat over the es8000! There is a reason the vt50 is the highest rated and awarded tv since the kuro. Dont let the led fanboys tell you otherwise. The reviews on amazon speak for themselves.
Totally agree.
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Originally Posted by Anuj Patel View Post

So I bought the 65VT50 a little while ago from Cleveland Plasma (great doing business with Chris as usual) hooked the baby up and I've screwed with the settings here and there to try and get a decent picture and although the picture is "okay" I know for a fact it could be a lot better.
The few comments above are spot on. Calibration is the best option to bring your exact set to the best it can be.

Have you had your set in vivid mode this whole time? ( If so this is a big issue. If so change to THX mode. )
post #8595 of 13486
Shagz, The vt50 has isf day and isf night modes if pro calibrated. None of that armature cal stuff on the es8000. This is the real deal for a full isf calibration. This set will blow the es8000 out of the water regardless of what the led fanboys say over on the 8000 thread.
post #8596 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Bolt989 View Post

Shagz, The vt50 has isf day and isf night modes if pro calibrated. None of that armature cal stuff on the es8000. This is the real deal for a full isf calibration. This set will blow the es8000 out of the water regardless of what the led fanboys say over on the 8000 thread.

es8000 is back at the store.

NOW to Purchase the VT50!!!
post #8597 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Shagz View Post

What games do you play with this TV. I fear the burn-in.
I want to order one today. No local stores carry it.
Taking back the es8000 Sammy today.
Thanks all

I play Madden, NBA 2K, Uncharted 3, Assasins Creed 3, Black Ops 2 on my 65VT50

Had it for a week almost and no sign of I.R at all and I check every night before I turn off the set by running the slides to see if I can see anything.

My display was manufactured in November of this year

Use Cnet settings for both movies and gaming.

Incredible for gaming once you turn off blue tooth on the set or viera link
post #8598 of 13486
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Originally Posted by ShowbizPizza View Post

To all the owners of the 65VT50: Does anyone sit their tv directly on top of their center channel speaker? Once I get my center channel placed, I should be ready to start watching this beauty. I just don't know if it is considered safe to try placing the tv right on top of the speaker. My cc speaker is pretty big - it's 25 lb and measures 7 3/8" x 23 7/8 x 9 1/4." The tv's pedestal stand is about 15.5 inches deep and 23.5 inches wide, and the tv with the pedestal weighs something like 106 lb.

Don't do it. Why risk it? My center speaker is bigger than yours, and I just built a riser out of 2 by 4's and a panel of MDF, painted it black, and put the TV on top of that. It took me only about 2 hours to build the riser and paint it, and I am a complete amateur at it. It actually looks decent; my wife doesn't even notice it.
post #8599 of 13486
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Originally Posted by NJPapi1977 View Post

Incredible for gaming once you turn off blue tooth on the set or viera link

Why do u turn these off on the set for gaming ?
post #8600 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Iron Mike View Post

Why do u turn these off on the set for gaming ?

It improves the input lag big time in custom mode or any other mode
post #8601 of 13486
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Originally Posted by NJPapi1977 View Post

It improves the input lag big time in custom mode or any other mode

great info, so even in GAME MODE it would improve lag ?

where exactly do I turn these off ?

Thanks.

- M
post #8602 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Iron Mike View Post

great info, so even in GAME MODE it would improve lag ?
where exactly do I turn these off ?
Thanks.
- M


Set up and Viera Link settings turned off

If you have no blue tooth things registered with the tv then you good.

I had my phone and receiver which caused huge lag
post #8603 of 13486
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Originally Posted by NJPapi1977 View Post

I play Madden, NBA 2K, Uncharted 3, Assasins Creed 3, Black Ops 2 on my 65VT50
Had it for a week almost and no sign of I.R at all and I check every night before I turn off the set by running the slides to see if I can see anything.
My display was manufactured in November of this year
Use Cnet settings for both movies and gaming.
Incredible for gaming once you turn off blue tooth on the set or viera link


thanks for the info

what are these slides you speak of?

they do need a thread with just tips smile.gif
post #8604 of 13486
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Originally Posted by NJPapi1977 View Post

Set up and Viera Link settings turned off
If you have no blue tooth things registered with the tv then you good.
I had my phone and receiver which caused huge lag

awesome, thanks. yeah I had no bluetooth devices connected but Viera link was on...
post #8605 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Iron Mike View Post

awesome, thanks. yeah I had no bluetooth devices connected but Viera link was on...
Viera link which is hdmi CEC should not cause any lag what so ever when it comes to gaming. That's ridiculous. For example an Xbox doesn't even have hdmi CEC compatibility so it would never interfere with it at all, and even if it did hdmi CEC only turns things off and on with other electronics for the most part. I don't know about blue tooth but I couldn't see that causing a lag issue either. Again makes no sense.
post #8606 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Semp1 View Post

Viera link which is hdmi CEC should not cause any lag what so ever when it comes to gaming. That's ridiculous. For example an Xbox doesn't even have hdmi CEC compatibility so it would never interfere with it at all, and even if it did hdmi CEC only turns things off and on with other electronics for the most part. I don't know about blue tooth but I couldn't see that causing a lag issue either. Again makes no sense.

I have no info on the logic involved, but since I don't use Viera Link anyways, I don't mind setting it to off
post #8607 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Semp1 View Post

Viera link which is hdmi CEC should not cause any lag what so ever when it comes to gaming. That's ridiculous. For example an Xbox doesn't even have hdmi CEC compatibility so it would never interfere with it at all, and even if it did hdmi CEC only turns things off and on with other electronics for the most part. I don't know about blue tooth but I couldn't see that causing a lag issue either. Again makes no sense.

I have no reason to make things up. If you want to call it ridiculous then perhaps you will try it first before you call out a theory.

Perhpas the viera link does not but blue tooth definately does.....It is very apparent when I have my Panasonic sound bar receiver connected via Blue Tooth to the tv it causes major input lag even during menu switching on the xbox

Once I turn off blue tooth on the tv it goes away.
post #8608 of 13486
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Originally Posted by NJPapi1977 View Post

I have no reason to make things up. If you want to call it ridiculous then perhaps you will try it first before you call out a theory.
Perhpas the viera link does not but blue tooth definately does.....It is very apparent when I have my Panasonic sound bar receiver connected via Blue Tooth to the tv it causes major input lag even during menu switching on the xbox
Once I turn off blue tooth on the tv it goes away.
Bluetooth makes a little more sense but there's no way Viera link effects lag. Maybe you should try putting Viera link back on and see that there is no issue with that on and blue tooth off. Btw I have a 65VT30 with Viera link on with an Xbox and ps3 connected. No issue. I also have a 55GT50 with Viera link on. Also with an xbox's and ps3 connected again no issues. And I didn't realize it was a sound bar you had connected via blue tooth. That makes complete sense as to why there is lag. HDMI CEC has no effect on lag.
post #8609 of 13486
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Originally Posted by Shagz View Post

Inquiring about this tv at best buy. The head tv guy there said this will best my es8000 sammy i have. I did look over the 55in es8000 in the store for issues that mine had. He opted for me to get it calibrated. He claimed there is a difference from just setting the tv via the menu and hardware calibrating it. Said the menu settings don't stick over hardware settings?
Is there a difference from calibrating this set or any set for that matter via software/hardware?
The es8000 did have 2 more settings to choose cal night cal day that were added via hardware I guess. I asked to see the settings. He said no. I did manage to see the first screen before he closed the menu fast. Nothing stood out from what I had. Then again it was only the first screen.
Happy viewing smile.gif

The same settings that can be input in the ISF menu, can be set up in the user level "custom" mode.

For ISF picture modes to become available, they can be turned on with software such as ControlCal. This would give you two more picture modes that you could program.

You'll find that there are several places where users have posted settings that they find work on their displays. You can input these in the user level custom picture mode and see how they work for you. Since there is so much variation in production, you might have to try several of them until one looks good to you. At best, the best one will be close but nothing replaces getting a professional calibration. Only problem is that with this set and it's aggressive ABL circuits, it's hard to find someone who really knows their stuff. Don't count on a Geek Squad calibration to do much.

When these displays are turned on for the first time, there is an option for either store or home use. In store use, Vivid picture mode becomes the default picture mode. If settings are changed, after so many minutes it returns to vivid. Don't know why the TV guy said what he did but he's basically wrong about what he told you. It's all software driven and it's only a question of where you make the settings adjustments.
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

The same settings that can be input in the ISF menu, can be set up in the user level "custom" mode.
For ISF picture modes to become available, they can be turned on with software such as ControlCal. This would give you two more picture modes that you could program.
You'll find that there are several places where users have posted settings that they find work on their displays. You can input these in the user level custom picture mode and see how they work for you. Since there is so much variation in production, you might have to try several of them until one looks good to you. At best, the best one will be close but nothing replaces getting a professional calibration. Only problem is that with this set and it's aggressive ABL circuits, it's hard to find someone who really knows their stuff. Don't count on a Geek Squad calibration to do much.
When these displays are turned on for the first time, there is an option for either store or home use. In store use, Vivid picture mode becomes the default picture mode. If settings are changed, after so many minutes it returns to vivid. Don't know why the TV guy said what he did but he's basically wrong about what he told you. It's all software driven and it's only a question of where you make the settings adjustments.

Thanks for clearing that up.
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