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post #8701 of 13477
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Originally Posted by Shagz View Post

how long have you had this tv set? i find it shocking that a tv of this quality and being 2012, we still have IR issues. Stuff like that makes me scared of this tv. i did just order one tho. will see what happens in when i get it setup.
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The set is a November 2012 build, I've had it since December 06, 2012.

My warning wasn't meant to scare anyone off this model - I do not regret the purchase. Merely a caution about this situation I encountered, others may have different take and/or preventative measures.

After the TV warmed up the IR issue was hard to detect.

Enjoy your set; read the posts on this forum: It may behoove you to break-in your set as advised by many here - I certainly did.
post #8702 of 13477
Each TV really must be a little different. I remember when the G10 was new and IR wasn't bad on many displays but mine seemed to be very sensitive. As soon as a menu screen was up you'd see the IR. it went away but it was noticeable with anything on screen. This sounds exactly what's going on with some VT50s but the opposite is occurring for me. I don't know if its certain settings or if its a characteristic of the TV itself but I can't see any on mine. I haven't done any break in slides or anything. I've been watching full screen programs, trying to limit logos. But I've been watching football and playing Xbox and haven't seen any at all. I'm used to just seeing it on my G10 but haven't seen any yet and I've been actively looking for it. The Other thing I noticed, which I think I was only brought up once in the forum was that on the older plasmas the blacks would be equivalent to a "0" signal. I'm not sure how to explain it but if I look at my G10 while its on but say the cable box is off and the screen is all black ( or a dark black section during a movie) it looks like the pixels are just off. If you do the same thing on the VT50 if you look closely it looks like lines moving upward. This occurs with no signal, or any black area of a movie. You have to be up close to the screen to see it. I think these alternating black/gray lines are what contribute the panel to having deeper blacks but I'm also thinking it def helps with IR since there's movement. Ill try to find the other thread where this was brought up and explained much better than I can do. Just wondering how many of you can see the lines on the all black screen?
post #8703 of 13477
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

UMR (W. Jeff Meier) is one of the best. You can find his schedule of tours here at his web site. www.accucalhd.com
jeff@accucalhd.com

Agree 100% on Jeff. He'll be here again on the 11th to calibrate my VT50. He did a great job on my Samsung LED a couple of months back.
post #8704 of 13477
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Originally Posted by Glashub View Post

I never see IR. Got about 150 hours on it. Ran slides for 1st 100 hours non stop.

Same here..I'm watching DVR'd replays of yesterdays games on Fox right now and no IR from the scorebox or Fox logo's so far. Just over 100 hours on my set, mostly slides for the first 100.
post #8705 of 13477
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

UMR (W. Jeff Meier) is one of the best. You can find his schedule of tours here at his web site. www.accucalhd.com
jeff@accucalhd.com

Thanks!
post #8706 of 13477
My 2010 50" VT25 often had IR issues, but in every case it went away quickly and was never really bothersome.
Even for a couple of minutes after turning the TV off, I could see a faint image on the screen in a dark room.

My new 55" VT50 (October build) doesn't have this problem at all. IR is a complete non-issue with this TV.
post #8707 of 13477
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Originally Posted by jamiee View Post

My 2010 50" VT25 often had IR issues, but in every case it went away quickly and was never really bothersome.
Even for a couple of minutes after turning the TV off, I could see a faint image on the screen in a dark room.
My new 55" VT50 (October build) doesn't have this problem at all. IR is a complete non-issue with this TV.

I hope this is the rule and not the exception on this TV. I should be receiving my 65VT50 soon and plan on watching a lot of sports and playing video games on it without worrying about IR. I thought IR was a thing of the past.
post #8708 of 13477
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Originally Posted by M_A_C View Post

I hope this is the rule and not the exception on this TV. I should be receiving my 65VT50 soon and plan on watching a lot of sports and playing video games on it without worrying about IR. I thought IR was a thing of the past.

You"ll be fine. Just break it in for the first 100 hours or so before you game on it. Do not OCD about it and go looking for it either. The whole IR thing is much better than looking at a led with bad uniformity and poor contrast ratio. This tv is reference quality. A little temporary IR is nothing when your looking at the best picture money can buy to date.

You could get a led instead of worrying about IR but then you will have uniformity issues along with greyish/bluish blacks that will make your darker or letterbox movies a nightmare, especially when you see clouding and flashlighting in the corners.
post #8709 of 13477
My 65VT50 is on its way. Can someone recommend a good wall mount for it? This will be my first mounted TV.
post #8710 of 13477
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Originally Posted by Todd68 View Post

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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

UMR (W. Jeff Meier) is one of the best. You can find his schedule of tours here at his web site. www.accucalhd.com
jeff@accucalhd.com

Thanks!
You're welcome. There are large numbers of owner reports for UMR and other outstanding calibrators in the flat panel (Post#2) lists that are linked in the signature area at the bottom of my post. There is no need to stick to only one model or brand for information about the quality of their work. smile.gif
post #8711 of 13477
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Originally Posted by Todd68 View Post

Thanks, I am interested in getting my set calibrated eventually. I think the DIY route would be interesting but I am thinking calibration is a learned skill through experience so I would never get the full benefit anyway unless I hire a pro.
I live in PA is there a recommended calibrater in my area?
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

UMR (W. Jeff Meier) is one of the best. You can find his schedule of tours here at his web site. www.accucalhd.com
jeff@accucalhd.com

Besides Jeff Meier, Chris Eberle at Precision Video and Chad Billheimer, D-Nice (email below) may also cover that area.


Also check with Ken Whitcomb at Calibrations, Inc.

D-Nice's email

post #8712 of 13477
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Originally Posted by M_A_C View Post

I hope this is the rule and not the exception on this TV. I should be receiving my 65VT50 soon and plan on watching a lot of sports and playing video games on it without worrying about IR. I thought IR was a thing of the past.

My son and two of his friends played several hours of minecraft on our VT50 the other day. 3/4 of the screen was the different minecraft sessions, the other 1/4 was black with a white minecraft in the middle. No IR afterwards. FWIW, i didn't do any special break in process. We put the TV in THX Bright Room and watched whatever we felt like for the first few weeks.
post #8713 of 13477
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Originally Posted by jamiee View Post

My 2010 50" VT25 often had IR issues, but in every case it went away quickly and was never really bothersome.
Even for a couple of minutes after turning the TV off, I could see a faint image on the screen in a dark room.
My new 55" VT50 (October build) doesn't have this problem at all. IR is a complete non-issue with this TV.

Unfortunately I have noticed some IR on my 65VT50. I definitely didn't go looking for it either because I have never really noticed any IR on my 500M and was in the camp that believed it was really a thing of the past. I did the 100 hour break in and have been using mostly the THX cinema mode. I was concerned about using this mode because it disables the orbiter but multiple people said that really doesn't help much and would just blur the edges of something that would burn in. The thing that I noticed the IR with was the ESPN logo in the bottom right corner. I will admit I watched a good amount of football games and maybe I shouldn't have but I still didn't think there would be IR. I have been making a point of watching pretty much all full screen content and I think the IR is fading but I haven't really made a point of looking up close at it because I'm scared of what I might find and was going to give it a little more time to fade. I will check it out with the slides pretty soon.
post #8714 of 13477
Just finished watching "Rio" from DirecTV on my 65VT50. What a gorgeous picture!
post #8715 of 13477
Here's some questions maybe our calibrators and enthusiasts can help me with.....When watching DVDs - not Blu-Rays - on the VT50, should the player output 480p or 1080p? I am asking because I know there are 2 color matrices (one for SD input signals, one for HD input signals) on these displays. Since DVDs are standard definition and adhere to a different color standard than BDs, doesn't that mean that a DVD outputted at 1080p or 720p would be displayed incorrectly, color-wise?

And if that is the case, how would one go about calibrating for SD signals such as DVDs? Simply output 480p/480i to the display, select the SD color matrix, and adjust any pertinent user menu color settings accordingly? Or does anyone know if calibrating for SD signals requires going into the service menu? I still have quite a few dvds that haven't been released yet on BD (mainly tv shows) so I would like them to look as accurate as possible once I start adjusting my settings.
post #8716 of 13477
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Originally Posted by Jagged68 View Post

My 65VT50 is on its way. Can someone recommend a good wall mount for it? This will be my first mounted TV.

This is what I used. Painless install.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082801&p_id=6663&seq=1&format=2
post #8717 of 13477
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Originally Posted by ShowbizPizza View Post

I am asking because I know there are 2 color matrices (one for SD input signals, one for HD input signals) on these displays.[
The player should do all the color decoding and output RGB or YUV, so the display shouldn't care what the actual source was.

The only time the different color matrices should matter is for sources that the TV decodes, which would be antenna input, Internet apps, and media playback either through DLNA or local USB connection. HDMI and component inputs are already decoded (at least as far as color matrix is concerned).
post #8718 of 13477
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Originally Posted by solat152 View Post

I get IR whenever I open up the menu. MENU at the top left. It goes away if I run the bars or some color slides. I have already exchanged this tv once because the IR wouldnt go away. Hopefully this one will be different. I dont have this one on thx mode though so the pixel orbiter is on which seems to help.
I have had this tv for 40 days now. IR happens even if I bring up the menu for a few seconds.

I got some IR for the first time yesterday while tinkering with the pro adjustments. I had the menu up for quite a long time. Menu word was seen at the top and the select return at the bottom, only noticed up close when I ran the anti retention scrolling bar. I ran the scrolling bar 8 consecutive times and this morning the screen is clean as new with no evidence of IR.

Like I said though, it took a lot of time with the menu screen up to cause my temporary IR. These plasmas don't like extended periods of bright white static logos as everyone seems to know this is normal, but in your case it seems your panel is extremely sensitive to IR, for some reason.
post #8719 of 13477
Happy New Year!

I have purchased and installed the panny usb camera on my 65VT50. Camera is working fine ok for skype but I have a couple of questions about using this camera for skype.

1. I have audio coming from the TV to my reciever through an optical audio cable and I hear the skype application audio through my reciever but the only way to get audio from a skype callis to turn on the TV speakers. Does any one have any ideas on how to get the audio from a skype call through to a receiver? Netflix and other apps also play fine through the optical audio output of the TV.

2. During a skype call, the camera video will go black momentarily and come back on. This happens randomly sometime frequently and sometimes not at all. Any thoughts on how to improve performance ?

Thankss
post #8720 of 13477
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Originally Posted by Todd68 View Post

I got some IR for the first time yesterday while tinkering with the pro adjustments. I had the menu up for quite a long time. Menu word was seen at the top and the select return at the bottom, only noticed up close when I ran the anti retention scrolling bar. I ran the scrolling bar 8 consecutive times and this morning the screen is clean as new with no evidence of IR.

Is there any way to set the TV to turn off after the anti retention bar is run? I liked how my Pioneer 500M would turn off after the bar ran. I was thinking my VT50 was going to do that and almost left it to go to bed but thank goodness I didn't because then the menu would have been sitting on the screen overnight!
post #8721 of 13477
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Originally Posted by ViciousLord View Post

This is what I used. Painless install.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082801&p_id=6663&seq=1&format=2

Thanks. That looks perfect! The reviews recommend getting lag screws, so I'll pick those up as well.
post #8722 of 13477
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Originally Posted by Jagged68 View Post

Thanks. That looks perfect! The reviews recommend getting lag screws, so I'll pick those up as well.

I bought that mount as well - it comes with lag bolts. Those monoprice reviews are funny - one reviewer mentions he sheared off one lag bolt, and the bolts are immediately suspect and subsequent reviewers refer to "issues" with the bolts or that they look flimsy.
Edited by DWBoston - 1/1/13 at 7:57am
post #8723 of 13477
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Originally Posted by Jagged68 View Post

Thanks. That looks perfect! The reviews recommend getting lag screws, so I'll pick those up as well.

I replaced the lag bolts with 8 tap-con screws right into the concrete, I predrilled holes of course.

It's looks like you're close to my area, I'm in Davie.
post #8724 of 13477
Does anyone know what the incoming audio format for Amazon Prime is on this display?

It's going to my 8801 preamp via the audio return channel (ARC) and I'm not able to get DD with it.

Don't know if this has to do with Amazon prime or the VT50...or for that matter, the 8801 preamp.
post #8725 of 13477
Since there aren't too many pictures of this awesome tv, I figured I'd share my set up.

Enjoy. (Lamps look a little bright but I purposely overexposed to get a better picture)



Speakers are part of my Sony HTIB. I just bought a Denon 2113ci to start the audio update. I'm still researching on what speakers to get, any input would be appreciated.
Edited by ViciousLord - 1/1/13 at 7:50pm
post #8726 of 13477
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Originally Posted by ViciousLord View Post

Since there aren't too many pictures of this awesome tv, I figured I'd share my set up.

Enjoy. (Lamps look a little bright but I overexposed the picture to get a better picture)



Speakers are part of my Sony HTIB. I just bought a Denon 2113ci to start the audio update. I'm still researching on what speakers to get, any input would be appreciated.

Very Nice!

Couple of speakers I have read about but have no personal experience with):

1. http://reviews.cnet.com/surround-speaker-systems/energy-take-classic-5/4505-7868_7-33310963.html ( compact)
2. http://reviews.cnet.com/surround-speaker-systems/pioneer-sp-pk52fs/4505-7868_7-35477425.html ( large)
post #8727 of 13477
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Originally Posted by ViciousLord View Post

Speakers are part of my Sony HTIB. I just bought a Denon 2113ci to start the audio update. I'm still researching on what speakers to get, any input would be appreciated.

I have a set of KEF - iQ7's and a iQ6C center connected through a Panasonic VSX-01THX and they sound awesome.
post #8728 of 13477
hi guys, amazing information on this forum, two quick questions...
1. did d-nice ever post his settings? (ive been looking for over 5hrs post by post, aaahhh!!)
2. i have a brand new vt50 coming in, can someone please direct me to step by step instructions for the break in slides procedure on ths tv?
thanks in advance!!
post #8729 of 13477
I've had a set of NHT speakers for over 16 years that still amaze me.
post #8730 of 13477
Hi,

a few days ago I bought 50VT50 plasma. Soon after the first enthusiasm I have discovered problem with horizontal banding (horizontal line bleeding).
After watching various video content I have found out that this problem distract me from enjoying this TV.

I have already read several posts about this problem, but I am not sure, whether the problem on my TV is a typical or above the normal level:





Any advice on this subject is appreciated.

Thank you.

Peter
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