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I believe he is talking about the "1080 Pure Direct."
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

I believe he is talking about the "1080 Pure Direct."

What is that....? Is that just built in or some kind of setting? I haven't heard of that. Just asking because my receiver has a pure/direct mode.
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Is their anybody out in the San Diego area know a reputable calibrator?
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Originally Posted by Mac13 View Post

What is that....? Is that just built in or some kind of setting? I haven't heard of that. Just asking because my receiver has a pure/direct mode.

Hi Mac13 - I was talking about the pure direct mode available in the advanced picture settings of your VT50. You will only beable to enable it when a 1080p signal is incoming. One of the things it does is bypass some processing in the tv, but I recommend you read the following link for more info on it: http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-tx-p50vt50b-p50vt50-201204101757.htm?page=Performance

enjoy
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

Hi Mac13 - I was talking about the pure direct mode available in the advanced picture settings of your VT50. You will only beable to enable it when a 1080p signal is incoming. One of the things it does is bypass some processing in the tv, but I recommend you read the following link for more info on it: http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-tx-p50vt50b-p50vt50-201204101757.htm?page=Performance

enjoy

Thanks for the info!
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Originally Posted by Styphin View Post

Hi Emclean,

Well, I bought the exact same setup, 65VT50 and Elite SC-61. Like you, I'm pretty newb, but learning stuff everyday by lurking around the forums here. The TV is currently breaking in using D-Nice's slides from the HDJ's forum. I ran a few minutes of Toy Story 3 on my set before starting the breakin and it looked freakin amazing, and I haven't even started playing with the picture settings yet. Also, I've heard nothing but good things about the SC-61, EXCEPT that setup can be difficult, UNLESS you have the iPad or iPhone app, which makes it very easy. My SC-61 is supposed to get here tomorrow so I haven't had a chance to use it yet, but I did tons of research and felt the SC-61 was the best receiver for my needs.

So did you buy a good setup? My answer would be yes, that is a very good setup.

2) I've read a bunch of stuff about breakin, and consensus seems to be 100 to 200 hours. Some folks run slides for 100 hours then mixed content (no channels with logos!) for another 100. I've read that Panasonic states that severe image retention or burn-in can be an issue up to the first 2000 hours (yes, THOUSAND), but don't let that deter you from watching your TV. Just don't leave it on a static image overnight and you should be fine.

For me, I'm just gonna run the slides for 100 hours straight (yes, I'm running them overnight, so 4 days total. You don't have to run it overnight, but it's obviously quicker. You're not doing any damage to the TV; just make sure the slideshow is playing and not paused so it goes to Viera's screen saver mode) and then I'll baby the TV for another 100 hours with Blu-Rays and HD movie channels (so no video games for a while.) Then I'll run the AVSHD 709 calibration disc on my set (google AVSHD 709 and you'll find it, it's free to download, which you can then burn on a blu-ray or DVD). If I'm not happy with those settings, then I'll look into buying calibration software, but we'll see how the AVSHD disc does.

Word of advice, when running the slides, check for cracks or dead pixels, but don't overly inspect the screen or you'll start swearing you see inconsistencies and patterns in the grey and white slides. Note that plasmas, in general, do not provide completely uniform whites, and from what I can tell on the VT50, it's no different. However, typically it's a minor thing that you will probably never notice except on these slides.

3) I got the Squaretrade warranty off of Amazon and it looks pretty legit. Good reviews. Seems to be good coverage. I feel comfortable with these warranties. Square Trade will send out a tech to your house to inspect the TV, so you don't have to ship it unless it has to be replaced.

Buying a warranty is like gambling. Spend $300 now (I spent $400), or maybe end up buying a new set a year from now. Or maybe not! This is a decision you'll have to make on your own. The VT50s are well built sets but things do break, and I've read forums with several people having issues with their set.

Let me know how your setup goes. Since our systems match it will be very good to know someone out there has the same setup for any technical issues.

-Aj

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Originally Posted by laulau View Post

Recommend getting the SquareTrade warranty from Costco online. 3 extra years for $99.99. You can purchase the extended warranty even if you didn't buy the TV from Costco. Reportedly you don't even have to be a Costco member but it will cost you $5 dollars more...haven't verified this as I'm already a member.

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I went with a Peerless ST670P tilting wall mount; it has a fairly wide mounting plate that will easily span 3 studs even if the middle stud is off center by 8 inches or so. I used the non-tilting version of this mount for a Samsung 46-inch LCD I bought for the exercise room. I know Monoprice is usually about one-fourth the cost of the "name" brands, but I felt an extra $50 for a $2500 television wasn't too unreasonable, and I had prior experience with the Peerless model. Of course, I'm still waiting for my set to be delivered, so take my recommendation with a grain (or two) of salt! smile.gif

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Originally Posted by ViciousLord View Post

This is what I used. I weigh 215 lbs. and I was hanging off the edge of the mount after mounting my 65" weighs about 140 lbs. The back plate spans the width of my old LG 50". I think you'll be fine.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10828&cs_id=1082801&p_id=6663&seq=1&format=2

Save the extra cash and buy a 3D Blu-Ray movie or two.


Thank you for the responses and advice everyone. I've got my mounts narrowed down to a few options. I think just for peace of mind I'll pull the trigger on one of the Costco $105 (non-member price) Squaretrade warranties. That is an insane price and I can totally justify that. The $500 or $600 BB warranty the guy tried to sell me was 100% out of the question! So I've had the tv for 6 days now. The first couple of days I wasn't able to do much with it because I was setting up everything else: my receiver, bridge modem, re-programming remotes, moving my old Onkyo 807 receiver to my bedroom, etc. I let one of my roommates watch the Dark Knight Rises on it once I got the Elite SC-61 hooked up and calibrated. Man I had no idea my speakers could sound that good. All in all, there's probably been only around 4 hours of programming watched so far. This past Saturday I started the break-in process using D-Nice's slides. They've been running day and night since Saturday morning. Is this bad? Should i cut the TV off for a couple of hours and then fire it back up later? I haven't noticed any dead pixels or any buzzing sounds so far so I'm keeping my fingers crossed mine won't start. I've probably got close to 60 hours on it now. Geek Squad is coming out on 1/26 to do the calibration. How many hours should I try to have on it when they come? I'm going to run the slides until Wednesday after work. That'll be around 100ish hours (considering if i need to take a break and cut the TV off for a few hours). Will that be good enough to calibrate or should i run the slides longer? Thank you!
Edited by Emclean07 - 1/14/13 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by hd-man View Post

Is their anybody out in the San Diego area know a reputable calibrator?

Hi,

Check out Jeff Meier (umr on AVS), D-Nice here on AVS (both may tour there) and Bill @ Coast Calibration.
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Has anyone personally had any experience with Geek Squad calibrating their 65VT50? I've read stuff bashing BB techs saying they are inexperienced and to stay away from them. I've also read some good stuff. But I also can't seem to really find many posts from people who have actually had the calibration service from BB themselves though. All I've found is people saying my brother's girlfriend's dad used them or my neighbor, but no personal experiences. This could also be my sign to stay away because I CAN'T really find anything. But anyways, I have a Geek Squad appointment next Saturday, 1/26 to calibrate my VT50. Since it is free I figured why not. I would love to get an independent expert to come out but I don't really have that in the budget right now. I am very inexperienced when it comes to TV calibrations but now I'm a little scared Geek Squad might mess it up. Should I adjust the settings to what D-Nice and others have suggested and just call it a day? Or adjust to D-Nice's settings and then let Geek Squad tinker with it also? I'm really torn on this.....

Thank you!
Edited by Emclean07 - 1/14/13 at 1:53pm
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Originally Posted by Emclean07 View Post

Has anyone personally had any experience with Geek Squad calibrating their 65VT50? I've read stuff bashing BB techs saying they are inexperienced and to stay away from them. I've also read some good stuff. But I also can't seem to really find many posts from people who have actually had the calibration service from BB themselves though. All I've found is people saying my brother's girlfriend's dad used them or my neighbor, but no personal experiences. This could also be my sign to stay away because I CAN'T really find anything. But anyways, I have a Geek Squad appointment next Saturday, 1/26 to calibrate my VT50. Since it is free I figured why not. I would love to get an independent expert to come out but I don't really have that in the budget right now. I am very inexperienced when it comes to TV calibrations but now I'm a little scared Geek Squad might mess it up. Should I adjust the settings to what D-Nice and others have suggested and just call it a day? Or adjust to D-Nice's settings and then let Geek Squad tinker with it also? I'm really torn on this.....

Thank you!

Ya I am able to get a free one from Best Buy as well and am contemplating getting it done. Most people on here say to stay away but honestly I don't see what it can hurt as long as they don't go into the service menu. If they stay in the user menu then you can always just reset it if you are unhappy with the results. I will probably end up having them come out for the heck of it since it is free. Please let us (pm me please smile.gif )know if you go through with it and how it turns out!
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Originally Posted by Emclean07 View Post

Has anyone personally had any experience with Geek Squad calibrating their 65VT50? I've read stuff bashing BB techs saying they are inexperienced and to stay away from them. I've also read some good stuff. But I also can't seem to really find many posts from people who have actually had the calibration service from BB themselves though. All I've found is people saying my brother's girlfriend's dad used them or my neighbor, but no personal experiences. This could also be my sign to stay away because I CAN'T really find anything. But anyways, I have a Geek Squad appointment next Saturday, 1/26 to calibrate my VT50. Since it is free I figured why not. I would love to get an independent expert to come out but I don't really have that in the budget right now. I am very inexperienced when it comes to TV calibrations but now I'm a little scared Geek Squad might mess it up. Should I adjust the settings to what D-Nice and others have suggested and just call it a day? Or adjust to D-Nice's settings and then let Geek Squad tinker with it also? I'm really torn on this.....

Thank you!

D-Nice's settings! Where are these for the 65VT50confused.gif

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I'm expecting my 55vt50 from Paul's TV to be delivered tomorrow. What build dates are you guys seeing from them? I'm hoping for a late one!
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Originally Posted by Rac10000 View Post

I'm expecting my 55vt50 from Paul's TV to be delivered tomorrow. What build dates are you guys seeing from them? I'm hoping for a late one!

Got mine last Wed from pauls, have a Dec 2012 build date. No problems, no buzzing, IR.
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Originally Posted by Rac10000 View Post

I'm expecting my 55vt50 from Paul's TV to be delivered tomorrow. What build dates are you guys seeing from them? I'm hoping for a late one!
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Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth View Post

Got mine last Wed from pauls, have a Dec 2012 build date. No problems, no buzzing, IR.

Same here, got mine from Paul's TV yesterday, Dec 2012 as well.
post #9224 of 13486
Got mine a little over a week ago but not from Paul's, its a November build. As long as you get an October or later build you shouldn't have the issues with buzzing. Can't hear mine at all unless I stick my head behind the tv and even then its a very faint noise of fans or a buzz during bright screens.
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Originally Posted by KONICA TECH View Post

D-Nice's settings! Where are these for the 65VT50:confused:

Not posted yet. Seems to be some question as to whether he will post because of the new 2013 models being released soon.
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Originally Posted by KONICA TECH View Post

D-Nice's settings! Where are these for the 65VT50:confused:

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Originally Posted by Thunderduck View Post

Not posted yet. Seems to be some question as to whether he will post because of the new 2013 models being released soon.

Thank you Thunderduck, I must have been looking at something else, my apologies! With no D-Nice settings that brings me back around to my quandary: Geek Squad or no Geek Squad?
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Originally Posted by Emclean07 View Post


Thank you Thunderduck, I must have been looking at something else, my apologies! With no D-Nice settings that brings me back around to my quandary: Geek Squad or no Geek Squad?

You have a flagship tv hire a "flagship" calibrator, that would not be Geek Squad imo. I see your cal is free, I would pray they don't make your set worse, yes I have had a "bad" GS experience and a "real" calibration experience, no comparison imo
Edited by chunon - 1/14/13 at 4:20pm
post #9228 of 13486
It'll probably be a hit or miss with a BB calibration, personally I wouldn't pay for it. If you decide to get it done by a pro I'd at lest wait until you have 200hrs or more on it.
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Originally Posted by LBJ2 View Post

Jim: the VT50 does carry 5.1 over HDMI with other streaming apps like Netflix and Vudu where available or indicated in the title of the movie. (e.g., not all movies are 5.1 in the Netflix Library). Unfortunately Amazon's Instant Video app specifically for Panasonic does not yet include 5.1/Dolby Digital audio. I had the same frustration with the Netflix app on my Sony BDP-S780 blu ray player--in that case I could get 5.1 from Amazon titles but not Netflix rolleyes.gif

In either case my Receiver is able to process 2.1 PCM input to 5.1 output on my speaker system.

Do you have to turn that on somehow in your receiver settings? I'm only getting 2.1 out of my front towers [and sub] and it is driving me nuts!
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

You have a flagship tv hire a "flagship" calibrator, that would not be Geek Squad imo. I see your cal is free, I would pray they don't make your set worse, yes I have had a "bad" GS experience and a "real" calibration experience, no comparison imo

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Originally Posted by 7thSeal View Post

It'll probably be a hit or miss with a BB calibration, personally I wouldn't pay for it. If you decide to get it done by a pro I'd at lest wait until you have 200hrs or more on it.

Chunon / 7thSeal,

That's what I was afraid of and thank you for the honesty! I really need a pro to do it but that won't happen for a while. I didn't account for the professional calibration in my tv and receiver budget. I've got to think though, GS would be able to do a better job than I could. If he messes it up I guess I can raise cane at the store and try and get someone to fix it or just return the TV. I've still got a week and a half until my appointment to decide what I'll do. I'll look around for pros in the Atlanta area and price some out. In the mean time, I'll continue to run the slides day and night until I hit 200 hours. Thanks again!
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you are probably better off loading some of the settings in the other forum. Those will help you get through the first few hundred hours and improve the quality from the out of the box modes. or you can use THX Cinema and bright room also if you desire.

I would suggest saving for a professional to do it that is certified then playing the lottery at BB. If you can get the magnolia guys to do it and not the geek squad then perhaps that is a better option.
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you are probably better off loading some of the settings in the other forum. Those will help you get through the first few hundred hours and improve the quality from the out of the box modes. or you can use THX Cinema and bright room also if you desire.

I would suggest saving for a professional to do it that is certified then playing the lottery at BB. If you can get the magnolia guys to do it and not the geek squad then perhaps that is a better option.

I will agree with using the posted settings. People say how good the THX modes are, but they pale in comparison to using some of the Custom settings found here! You might even get better results than the GS since they most likely wont do anything with the CMS.
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I had Geek Squad calibrate my 65 VT50 on 1/11/13 Oct 2012 build date with 250 hours on it using varied content with no IR visible, Geek Squad-1_11_2013-L.Shaver.pdf 1031k .pdf file attached are the results. I used Toppers setting for my custom mode and that is what the compassion is off of. I think the colors are more accurate after the calibration but it seems a little dark. He did ISF day and night but that was it, no 3D. He only did 30 and 80 gray scale not the 10 point. I have already emailed those settings to Dave Evans at 21 Century Calibration for an evaluation and to schedule a recalibration if he thinks its warranted.
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Comparison not compassion ...dam auto correct.
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

I will agree with using the posted settings. People say how good the THX modes are, but they pale in comparison to using some of the Custom settings found here! You might even get better results than the GS since they most likely wont do anything with the CMS.

Gents

I am scheduled to take delivery of a 65VT50 tomorrow, and plan to run the D-nice slides...

I'm curious if some of you more seasoned veterans that have utilized posted settings might post links to those that have worked best for you? I've seen several different ones mentioned, but was hoping to see if I might gather a consensus on those that are the most highly regarded.

Thanks for all the help

B
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Can some of you guys please look at the black strip on the bottom of the TV where it says THX, Real 3d etc and see if it has some slight waves in it? I only notice it sometimes but depending on how the light hits that strip I can see some tiny waves. I am curious if this is common or if mine is defective. I'm not sure I would even take the set back if this was only an issue on my TV since it isn't having to do with the actual display but it is still a little annoying when the light hits it and I notice it. Like I said you will have to have a light on and may have to look at it at a couple different angles to see it. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by BadClams View Post

Gents

I am scheduled to take delivery of a 65VT50 tomorrow, and plan to run the D-nice slides...

I'm curious if some of you more seasoned veterans that have utilized posted settings might post links to those that have worked best for you? I've seen several different ones mentioned, but was hoping to see if I might gather a consensus on those that are the most highly regarded.

Thanks for all the help

B

robnix's settings look superb on my set, he has his settings and result charts in post #800 of this page.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1410156/the-official-panasonic-vt50-settings-thread/780
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Originally Posted by hd-man View Post

Is their anybody out in the San Diego area know a reputable calibrator?
David Abrams (dave@avical.com) makes frequent trips from LA. He has an outstanding reputation here at AVS. You can use the link in the signature area at the bottom of my post to find customer reports on his work.
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Originally Posted by jcm304 View Post


Had my VT50 since August. Thought everything was normal and then got the WOW disc and noticed very very slight greenish areas especially on the right side on an all white slide. I do not see in normal content unless I look for it during an all white background commercial. Is this something that will go away or normal condition?
Anyone have any input, please?
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Originally Posted by Emclean07 View Post

Has anyone personally had any experience with Geek Squad calibrating their 65VT50? I've read stuff bashing BB techs saying they are inexperienced and to stay away from them. I've also read some good stuff. But I also can't seem to really find many posts from people who have actually had the calibration service from BB themselves though. All I've found is people saying my brother's girlfriend's dad used them or my neighbor, but no personal experiences. This could also be my sign to stay away because I CAN'T really find anything. But anyways, I have a Geek Squad appointment next Saturday, 1/26 to calibrate my VT50. Since it is free I figured why not. I would love to get an independent expert to come out but I don't really have that in the budget right now. I am very inexperienced when it comes to TV calibrations but now I'm a little scared Geek Squad might mess it up. Should I adjust the settings to what D-Nice and others have suggested and just call it a day? Or adjust to D-Nice's settings and then let Geek Squad tinker with it also? I'm really torn on this.....

Thank you!
I've collected some calibration reports for Geek Squad work. They are at the top of the second post (flat panel displays) in the "reports" thread that's linked in the signature area at the bottom of my post.

There are many fewer folks here at AVS that think they can get something for nothing from BB than in the general population. I know of only one person who got what he wanted in a calibration from BB. He was experienced enough to have done the work himself, and he interviewed the BB calibrator before he let him work on his display.
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