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post #9301 of 12289
1/16/13 at 11:57am
Those look exactly like the Monoprice glasses, though Monoprice doesn't include the case.
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post #9302 of 12289
1/16/13 at 12:20pm
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So take this for what it is, I'm now biased by my LCD/plasma side by side experience and feel fortunate that I ended up with the plasma.

Hope that helps,

Did you have windows in your viewing room by any chance? If so, any comments on each screen's ability to reject light reflections from a practical standpoint? thanks.
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post #9303 of 12289
1/16/13 at 2:38pm
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Anyone know what I should set my sony 590 BD players output to; 4:4:4, 4:2:2, or Auto? Would there be any benefit using 4:4:4 and the 1080 Pure Direct together?

Set it to 4:4:4. The TV is made to handle it according to their marketing material. I don't know about benefits or problems with using 4:4:4 together with 1080 Pure Direct, but that's how I have it set on mine. I also set my Oppo blu-ray player to 30-bit Deep Color too since the VT50 is supposed to be able to handle 30-bit. I believe current blu-rays don't actually use 30-bit Deep Color (or Deep Color at all), but I figured the blu-ray player should be set to output the highest quality that the TV can handle.

Here is the line in Panasonic's marketing material:

Color Reproduction Faithful to the Original

1,080p Pure Direct

The 1,080p Pure Direct function transmits and outputs high-quality YUV 4:4:4 30-bit video signals directly to the TV. This reproduces colors that are highly faithful to the original.


http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P55VT50
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post #9304 of 12289
1/16/13 at 3:31pm
We use the Samsung glasses and the things I noticed during day viewing is your side view isn't blocked very well and I also notice a bit of reflection (can see whats behind me). Nothing I that haven't been able to fix with some black duct tape though. cool.gif

Most of our 3D viewing is at night though and no problems there.
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post #9305 of 12289
1/16/13 at 3:40pm
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Originally Posted by Bluecow003 View Post

Set it to 4:4:4. The TV is made to handle it according to their marketing material. I don't know about benefits or problems with using 4:4:4 together with 1080 Pure Direct, but that's how I have it set on mine. I also set my Oppo blu-ray player to 30-bit Deep Color too since the VT50 is supposed to be able to handle 30-bit. I believe current blu-rays don't actually use 30-bit Deep Color (or Deep Color at all), but I figured the blu-ray player should be set to output the highest quality that the TV can handle.

Here is the line in Panasonic's marketing material:

Color Reproduction Faithful to the Original

1,080p Pure Direct

The 1,080p Pure Direct function transmits and outputs high-quality YUV 4:4:4 30-bit video signals directly to the TV. This reproduces colors that are highly faithful to the original.


http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/TC-P55VT50

Thanks I'll try it out!
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post #9306 of 12289
1/16/13 at 6:13pm
I got the 2012 Panasonic glasses but wanted to protect them and went to costco optical dept and they had these cases as extra's. They told me they were to big for most custmers eye glasses so I got them to give me 4 of them for free.[IMG]
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1/16/13 at 6:49pm
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Did you have windows in your viewing room by any chance? If so, any comments on each screen's ability to reject light reflections from a practical standpoint? thanks.

Both screens are glossy. Both will not handle direct sun. I have windows on both side walls perpindicular to my screen location, but I employ my shutters when I watch during the day. There is a 60 watt lamp behind my couch and the vt50 shield rejects the reflection better than the es8000, but it does cause a noticeable difference in the black on the part of the screen that has the reflection. I will say during the daytime and when watching crapp cable with the es you could crank up the backlight and although the picture became nothing I'd watch a good bluray on, it was a nice effect for say CNN or sports (vertical banding ruined this though).
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post #9308 of 12289
1/16/13 at 7:08pm
Add me to the list of owners smile.gif
can can one give me advise on using a PC via HDMI...Screen is slightly oversized cant see start button...
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post #9309 of 12289
1/16/13 at 7:21pm
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Originally Posted by irisservice View Post

Add me to the list of owners smile.gif
can can one give me advise on using a PC via HDMI...Screen is slightly oversized cant see start button...

On the TV change picture size to Size 2.

Then for ATI cards go into your video card properties and turn overscan to 0%. Nvidia and Intel cards should just fit once you're in Size 2.
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post #9310 of 12289
1/16/13 at 8:36pm
Thanks will i have to change it every time i switch back to Cable TV?
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post #9311 of 12289
1/16/13 at 9:47pm
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Originally Posted by irisservice View Post

Thanks will i have to change it every time i switch back to Cable TV?
It depends on which of the VT50 inputs your PC and cable box are connected to.

The VT50 saves picture adjustment settings on a per-input basis, so if they are different inputs, once you make the adjusment on that input, it will be remembered. In addition, the aspect settings are saved on a "per input per source format" basis, so that the zoom mode you choose for a particular type of source format (4:3 or 16:9) will be remembered for each TV input.
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post #9312 of 12289
1/17/13 at 12:01am
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

There are very few BB stores with the very high end Magnolia departments. Most Magnolia departments are not equipped to provide anything other than Geek calibrations. I always vote for calibrators that are known and reviewed here at AVS. See below. wink.gif
In the end why do none of the calibrators on the list network with best buy for work ? Easy BB could not pay them enough........
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post #9313 of 12289
1/17/13 at 6:22am
my 65" VT50 was delivered on Tuesday, and I got to say it's an awesome TV. coming from a Samsung ES8000, which suffered from severe banding, which I got a refund for, this Tv,as delivered, actually is close to my Pioneer FHD-1, that has been professionally calibrated. I am very impressed so far. Jeff Maier is going to calibrate this baby in April, and I cant wait.
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post #9314 of 12289
1/17/13 at 7:03am
Can someone please share how to unlock-activate the isf settings using the remote? I would sure like to know
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1/17/13 at 7:17am
I just got bought my vt-55 (should have it in a few days. Some amazing deals out there). Anyway, this is my 1st 3d set. Bought the panny 3d glasses for the new 2012 sets and a 3d hdmi cable and have a ps3 for the blu ray. My question is what settings should I use out of the box. Anything I should do right away. I know I can't calibrate it yet but I am a rookie. Thanks!!
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post #9316 of 12289
1/17/13 at 8:20am
Can someone please explain, or provide a link as to what 4:4:4 means compared to 4:2:2
I have a panny 220 blu-ray player
Which setting should I use, and what settings should I have on this unit
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post #9317 of 12289
1/17/13 at 8:23am
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Originally Posted by DerekinMerrick View Post

I just got bought my vt-55 (should have it in a few days. Some amazing deals out there). Anyway, this is my 1st 3d set. Bought the panny 3d glasses for the new 2012 sets and a 3d hdmi cable and have a ps3 for the blu ray. My question is what settings should I use out of the box. Anything I should do right away. I know I can't calibrate it yet but I am a rookie. Thanks!!

I'd say go ahead and utilize the THX settings as they are way better than the default Standard settings. Just try to avoid bright static logos for a while and you shouldn't need to worry about a thing. Once you get some hours on the set, you can get a calibration or give some of the user settings on here a shot.
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post #9318 of 12289
1/17/13 at 8:25am
Does anyone know of a webcam that will work with the VT50 for things like Skype?
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post #9319 of 12289
1/17/13 at 8:48am
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Originally Posted by billmich View Post

Can someone please explain, or provide a link as to what 4:4:4 means compared to 4:2:2

In Y Cb Cr, which is how disks are encoded, Y is the black and white image and Cb and Cr are the color components. It turns out that the eye is more sensitive to resolution with respect to Y than it is to Cb/Cr. So to improve compression the color information is stored at a lower resolution than the black and white image.

Disks are actually encoded 4:2:0. That effectively means that the color pixels are twice the size of the black and white pixels in each direction: 1 color pixel covers a 2x2 square of black and white pixels.

4:2:2 and 4:4:4 are created from what's encoded on the disk by the player. In 4:2:2 the color pixels are 2 black and white pixels wide but only 1 black and white pixel vertically. In 4:4:4 the size of the color and black and white pixels are the same.

Since what's encoded on the disk is 4:2:0, something in the display chain has to determine a color for each pixel on the screen. If your player does a better job of that then 4:4:4 is better. If not, then 4:2:2 is fine. Probably you won't see much of a difference.

All this only makes sense if the signal is being transmitted as Y Cb Cr. RGB is inherently "4:4:4" since the black and white image and color information have already been combined into individual pixels.
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1/17/13 at 9:13am
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Originally Posted by ruegway View Post

my 65" VT50 was delivered on Tuesday, and I got to say it's an awesome TV. coming from a Samsung ES8000, which suffered from severe banding, which I got a refund for, this Tv,as delivered, actually is close to my Pioneer FHD-1, that has been professionally calibrated. I am very impressed so far. Jeff Maier is going to calibrate this baby in April, and I cant wait.

Jeff calibrated my VT50 last Friday. You are in for a treat!
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1/17/13 at 9:15am
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Originally Posted by jconde View Post

Can someone please share how to unlock-activate the isf settings using the remote? I would sure like to know

You need additional software to unlock/create the ISF modes. Most of us use ControCal. It's a great piece of software used by professionals and consumers.
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1/17/13 at 9:31am
Hi- long time lurker. I just picked up a 65VT50 and had a quick question about how it interacts with my old Denon AVR2802. Unfortunately, my 2802 receiver has zero HDMI inputs- it's all component video. I therefore have my DVR and Blu-Ray player both plugged into my VT50 via HDMI and have an optical toslink cable in the Optical Out port on the tv going into one of my optical inputs on my receiver.

I get audio to pass through the television into the receiver for those two devices, but I can only get them to send a Pro Logic II signal. Oddly, when I play the native Netflix VT50 app, that passes through the same optical cable to the receiver as a Dolby Digital signal! The receiver supports Dolby Digital and DTS (and continues to do so for the old Xbox 360 I have connected directly to it in a separate optical input).

Does anyone know why I can only get Pro Logic II for external devices going through the VT50 vs. Dolby digital for the native tv apps and if there is a way to correct it? Am I stuck with Pro Logic for HDMI to optical pass through to my receiver? Seems odd since it's all digital signal that I'm dealing with. Why would that occur?

Of course, the eventual path would be to get a new receiver with HDMI inputs, but as many here can attest to, there's not much left in the piggy bank after procuring a 65VT50!

Thanks in advance for any help or guidance!
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post #9323 of 12289
1/17/13 at 9:34am
Not too many people to do an ISF calibration here. Best buy does it. do you think they are a scam? I had a great guy back in NY. But best buy does do it in my area. Not sure I trust them. Much cheaper though!!
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1/17/13 at 10:04am
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Originally Posted by DerekinMerrick View Post

Not too many people to do an ISF calibration here. Best buy does it. do you think they are a scam? I had a great guy back in NY. But best buy does do it in my area. Not sure I trust them. Much cheaper though!!

At first I was going to yell at you because I thought you meant "here" as in here on this forum! I re-read and believe you mean in your area, wherever that is. Several of the top professional calibrators travel the country. You just need to find out who will be in your area and get on their schedule. Best Buy cannot hurt you as long as they stay in the user menus. You can always factory reset.
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1/17/13 at 10:16am
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

At first I was going to yell at you because I thought you meant "here" as in here on this forum! I re-read and believe you mean in your area, wherever that is. Several of the top professional calibrators travel the country. You just need to find out who will be in your area and get on their schedule. Best Buy cannot hurt you as long as they stay in the user menus. You can always factory reset.

Where is the list again for calibrators in the SoCAL / Orange County area. I'm thinking of getting my VT50 calibrated later this year.
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1/17/13 at 10:41am
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

At first I was going to yell at you because I thought you meant "here" as in here on this forum! I re-read and believe you mean in your area, wherever that is. Several of the top professional calibrators travel the country. You just need to find out who will be in your area and get on their schedule. Best Buy cannot hurt you as long as they stay in the user menus. You can always factory reset.

Oh god no. The best guy I found on here. I just don't know about Best Buy. They only charge 199 though. That is a perk. But I want the same quality as what I had found on this site
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1/17/13 at 10:41am
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Originally Posted by billjust View Post

Hi- long time lurker. I just picked up a 65VT50 and had a quick question about how it interacts with my old Denon AVR2802. Unfortunately, my 2802 receiver has zero HDMI inputs- it's all component video. I therefore have my DVR and Blu-Ray player both plugged into my VT50 via HDMI and have an optical toslink cable in the Optical Out port on the tv going into one of my optical inputs on my receiver.

I get audio to pass through the television into the receiver for those two devices, but I can only get them to send a Pro Logic II signal. Oddly, when I play the native Netflix VT50 app, that passes through the same optical cable to the receiver as a Dolby Digital signal! The receiver supports Dolby Digital and DTS (and continues to do so for the old Xbox 360 I have connected directly to it in a separate optical input).

Does anyone know why I can only get Pro Logic II for external devices going through the VT50 vs. Dolby digital for the native tv apps and if there is a way to correct it? Am I stuck with Pro Logic for HDMI to optical pass through to my receiver? Seems odd since it's all digital signal that I'm dealing with. Why would that occur?

Of course, the eventual path would be to get a new receiver with HDMI inputs, but as many here can attest to, there's not much left in the piggy bank after procuring a 65VT50!

Thanks in advance for any help or guidance!

I think you'd really benefit from getting one of the newer 300$ dennons that have audyssey multieq, support audio delay/lipsynch, and can pass through the 3d signal. You just bought the type of tv you'd really want to upgrade around smile.gif If you just want 5.1 go see the dennon 1612 - good value.

But to answer your question I'm pretty sure you can't get the 5.1 signal unless you go direct from your BR to your AVR via optical.
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1/17/13 at 10:44am
I have ran into an issue with my TC-P55VT50. I done some searching but I couldnt find anything. I use an Onkyo tx-nr807 receiver to handle all my components including my pc's hdmi connection which is where the issue is. When I switch to that input the image is slightly off center, mostly it goes slightly off to the right but sometimes it will be the left. So in other words, its not doing a 1:1 mapping like it should when I switch back to the input. The only way ive found that keeps this from happening every time i switch inputs is to leave the tv or switch it over to a THX mode. When I do this I can see the image center and become 1:1 mapped. I have been using custom mode on the tv while it breaks in a little, just got it yesterday. I have tried various things to see if I can keep this from happening including trying different pc's and cables, settings on the pc, etc. Does anyone have any suggestions? My Samsung tv never had this problem.
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1/17/13 at 10:55am
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Originally Posted by sk11vengeance View Post

I have ran into an issue with my TC-P55VT50. I done some searching but I couldnt find anything. I use an Onkyo tx-nr807 receiver to handle all my components including my pc's hdmi connection which is where the issue is. When I switch to that input the image is slightly off center, mostly it goes slightly off to the right but sometimes it will be the left. So in other words, its not doing a 1:1 mapping like it should when I switch back to the input. The only way ive found that keeps this from happening every time i switch inputs is to leave the tv or switch it over to a THX mode. When I do this I can see the image center and become 1:1 mapped. I have been using custom mode on the tv while it breaks in a little, just got it yesterday. I have tried various things to see if I can keep this from happening including trying different pc's and cables, settings on the pc, etc. Does anyone have any suggestions? My Samsung tv never had this problem.


probably a dumb question, but do you have the pixel orbiter enabled on your input you are having problems with ? each input has its own memory so maybe you have something enabled on one input mode that you don't on the other.
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1/17/13 at 11:05am
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

I think you'd really benefit from getting one of the newer 300$ dennons that have audyssey multieq, support audio delay/lipsynch, and can pass through the 3d signal. You just bought the type of tv you'd really want to upgrade around smile.gif If you just want 5.1 go see the dennon 1612 - good value.

But to answer your question I'm pretty sure you can't get the 5.1 signal unless you go direct from your BR to your AVR via optical.

Thanks for the fast response. I'm fascinated how it loses 5.1 in translation somewhere in the hand-off between HDMI and optical. It's obviously a limitation of the tv bringing in audio via HDMI since, as I mentioned, it's sending 5.1 to the receiver for its Netflix app (and I presume the other apps native to the tv). Has this limitation been documented somewhere?
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