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post #9331 of 13486
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Originally Posted by KGB173 View Post

Where is the list again for calibrators in the SoCAL / Orange County area. I'm thinking of getting my VT50 calibrated later this year.
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

I lost the link, but find one of Turbe's posts or just PM him your display model and city and he will shoot you a list of qualified calibrators. Someone else may have that information handy as well.

Good luck!

P.S. I know that Jeff Meier makes trips to SoCal and he would be worth contacting for a schedule. His website is accucalhd.com

David Abrams, Jeff Meier, Gregg Loewen, D-Nice

Make sure you ask that Calibrator listed above will calibrate your VT50, some have affiliated Calibrators and/or employees, ask for the person listed to do the calibration.
post #9332 of 13486
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Originally Posted by 7thSeal View Post

Go to Menu- Setup- Advance setup and there you'll see Viera Connect Banner, turn that option off.

Great, I will try that tonight when I get home... have been unable to check out responses so I am sorry for
the late thank-you ...
post #9333 of 13486
Just got my 65VT50 the other day, loving the set so far. As far as a pixel for pixel mode go - if I use Size 2, disable orbiter, etc, I get what appears to be full screen content... but the screen seems offset to the left and top. On the AV Rec. 709 disc, one of the test patterns in basic settings shows a screen with a border, and that border only shows on the right and bottom of the display. A lot of content seems to clip a bit off the sides or top / bottom, but I see this particularly with the right hand side (and the left often looks like it may have a few more pixels offscreen while the right comes in).

Can the screen offset / position be edited in the menus / service menu? Is this something that could be configured after unlocking ISF modes?
post #9334 of 13486
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Originally Posted by JoelxD View Post

I was told by one of the moderators to combine these posts of my experience in a recent calibration service of my 2 TV's. This is to share with all owners of both TV's. Calibration was done by Robert Busch. Below are quotes from another thread of mine in the Calibration Forums. TV's calibrated were a Sony XBR950 (55") and a Panasonic VT50 (55"):

Hey, good question ! You know, I just didn't want to clog up this thread by giving out this info here and talking about it, but since you asked biggrin.gif , now I can !

Regardless of what others may want to say about each technology these TV's use (the obvious Plasma vs LCD debates) both these TV's are just great sets out the box. (NOW IMO) Out the box the XBR950 looks a touch more "toony" and razor sharp like (not in a bad way though, its character just leans more that way out the box). Out the box the VT50 looks rather the opposite, and not so much in a good way (IMO) all the presets (Cinema, THX, etc..) either look too dark or too pushed and all with some sort of hazy colored haze over the pictures background (again, IMO), and its a rather "soft" picture. So thats what we're dealing with (just for a little precursor info).

When Robert came over (from the way everyone speaks about the VT50) I/we were expecting the VT50 to of course calibrate way better, easier (due to ISF mode) and then obviously look way better than the XBR950 too. Literally to a point where a few professionals (priorly) pre-warned me to not expect the XBR950 to ever calibrate and look like the VT50, cause it just can't. I could totally understand that, especially from seeing them out the box, and also understanding the 2 different technologies, etc.. So I was expecting that as well, and had accepted it.

Ok (extremely long story short) - lol, after calibration, both sets almost looked identical ! On top of that EVERY aspect I mentioned earlier about the "out of box" impression of both TV's totally went away and they both looked so "correct" and stunningly deep, rich with "pop factor". I was amazed (and others were too) from the XBR950 really. Only because we didn't expect it to look as close to the VT50. Color wise, they were spot on to each other. Other characteristics though were indicative of the sets though, for instance the VT50 has no "bloom" what-so-ever and its viewing angle is just the most excellent I've ever seen. Where-as the XBR950, if you are not looking at it dead center white text over a black background has "bloom" and once your off center, the color representation, contrast, shadowing, etc.. begins to deteriorate and badly.

That said though, and the point to all this, is, after calibration, IF you sat dead center in front of the XBR950, these sets looked ridiculously close to each other. Color, spot on for sure. So much that indeed, we both were very surprised and amazed. The VT50 IMO holds a SLIGHTLY better picture though when there is "hard light" in the background of a scene. It is slight, but the XBR950 makes it look slightly more washed out and the VT50 just holds it perfect to everything else in the foreground. Again, this is slight. And again, it is surprising how awesomely close to the VT50 this XBR950 looks once their both calibrated AND how awesome they both look period, compared to how they looked out of the box.

There actually has been a few scenes I've come across where the XBR950 looks better and presents the scene better than the VT50 even ! But again, they are ridiculously close to each other visually, and even spectrum wise as well from the gear's analysis. So Sony has really done something on this new XBR950 for sure ! The VT50, well man, its a VT50 doing what you expect it to do. The XBR950 is doing beyond what was expected. (if thats a good way to put it ?)
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Good review of both sets!! I want to know if you had a do over, factoring costs and the issues you may have had with the vt50 initally, would you have bought 2 vt50 sets , 2 XBR950 sets, or would you still prefer one of each
post #9335 of 13486
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

Don't worry about it, 85% of the problems folks report are not really problems with the VT50. Just be careful with IR and after that its all good.
Slides are not really necessary, the only reason to use slides are if you are having a calibration done within a few weeks of getting your TV.
All you need to do is very full screen video without a lot of time spent on video with static images. imo I would rather use my new VT50 this way, rather than viewing paint drying (slides).

Yes you can become a DIY calibrator and end up with PQ that is best for your likes and dislikes, imo better than any pro calibrator can do, doing a normal ISF calibration.
But don't think that its easy and cheap, you simply are not going to get that good of results using just a calibration disc, like the WOW disc. You would need calibration software, a good meter, and learn how to use it. However even with this type of normal calibration you probably still will not best a really good pro, to do that you would need to add hardware like a Lumagen Mini 3D.

ss


Can you please provide further detail on the things I bolded above? What exactly & precisely does "Just be careful with IR" mean? Specifically how long should be safe to watch things with static logos or black bars? Should I wait at least 100 hours before watching ANYthing with black bars, logos etc? Or, is say 2-3 hours at a time ok with logos, black bars, etc? After 100-200 hours, do I need to be as cautious with the IR stuff? Or should I flip channels back and forth every 15min for the lifetime of my TV?

I'm just confused, I see people say all the time to be careful about IR, but I don't know how long and how much I need to be careful. My 65VT50 gets delivered tomorrow, it's my 1st plasma. I'm a bit scared to even turn the thing on for fear of IR... lol. If I limit my viewing of black bars to 1 movie a night at most, is that considered being careful, or really uncareful? Does the answer to that question change in the first 100 hours vs after 2000 hours?

Will running the slides for the first 100 hours limit my chances of having IR in the future?

Any detail provided about how to best handle IR would be great. Also, I have now read all the posts in both this thread and the Settings thread.

Thanks!
post #9336 of 13486
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Originally Posted by tetsu96 View Post

Just got my 65VT50 the other day, loving the set so far. As far as a pixel for pixel mode go - if I use Size 2, disable orbiter, etc, I get what appears to be full screen content... but the screen seems offset to the left and top. On the AV Rec. 709 disc, one of the test patterns in basic settings shows a screen with a border, and that border only shows on the right and bottom of the display. A lot of content seems to clip a bit off the sides or top / bottom, but I see this particularly with the right hand side (and the left often looks like it may have a few more pixels offscreen while the right comes in).

Can the screen offset / position be edited in the menus / service menu? Is this something that could be configured after unlocking ISF modes?



Here's a picture showing the border I referred to earlier. Displayed the graphic on an LED TV and the border was visible the entire way around. On my VT50, the border is only visible on the right and at the bottom. It's not much of a difference regardless, and the image looks better than I'd expect scaling using Size 1, but being able to center the image properly and use as many pixels as possible without scaling would be nice...
post #9337 of 13486
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Originally Posted by justindion View Post

Good review of both sets!! I want to know if you had a do over, factoring costs and the issues you may have had with the vt50 initally, would you have bought 2 vt50 sets , 2 XBR950 sets, or would you still prefer one of each

Honestly, if I didn't play so many video games and the exact ones I play and for how long I play them, I would go with 2 Panasonic VT50's. But with the IR we get from the VT50 that I constantly see, I most definitely wouldn't take the chance with a VT50 for my behavior. I pass out at 3am with a video game on pause a lot and wake up the next day.... When I do play, I play for sometimes literally all day. The games I play have wicked HUD's and several things that are on the screen constantly in the same place, etc..

I don't want to argue with the people that claim this would not be a problem with the VT50. I have both, I see what I see and I can assess a intelligent prediction from my personal behavior. We get IR of TV logos on the VT50 for only 1hr of watching it. Sure it goes away. But another always appears... and I don't want to deal with or fight that playing my games, whether it would turn into a actual problem or not. Thats not the issue. The issue is dealing with it over my precious video games. I wont take that at all. And games sometimes present content that will show the IR, unlike a normal movie or cable. If I see it one time for a second I'd flip.

That said.... I honestly also think the XBR950 presents video games and CGI movies/content better than the XBR950 once calibrated. It has a certain sharpness to it that really looks good on that material that the VT50 doesn't. So I am happy with the exact way I got it. The combination works perfectly.

BUT for a large living room, VT50 all the way -- The viewing angle on the XBR950 sucks compared to the VT50. Literally once you are off center, content degrades. The XBR950 is perfect for bedroom solo or two people dead center thing. Exactly how I got it.

So again... if I didn't play so many games and have my ridiculous rockstar behavior, I'd buy 2 VT50's - Cause the VT50 does indeed present real non-CGI material a TOUCH better and has a ridiculously KICK BUTT viewing angle.
post #9338 of 13486
Can I get a few wall mount suggestions for a 55-65"? I'd like to mount my 55VT50 and I may "trade up" to the 60ZT60 later this year. Appreciate any advice or experiences.
post #9339 of 13486
Well, to my dismay (and happiness $) it looks like I'll be holding onto my Kuro for another year (or at least "x" months to see how the VT60 fares).

It's not the "lesser" blacks - I can live with the 50's awesome levels. All else is fantastic too.

It's the pesky IR. Having NEVER seen it on my kuro, I know I could just never learn to live with it, and after reading more pages of this thread than I care to admit, it's obvious it's a reality of this otherwise splendid panel.

Shame. All these years and it's still an issue.
I love/prefer plasma and the incredible value/performance they offer but I'd still consider an xbr or elite if they were not so absurdly expensive. $4-$5,000 for a ~65" panel is simply asking too much in 2013, IMO.

Just don't see anything else out there for me.
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"Stuck" with the Kuro again, lol. Had a buyer with cash in hand too- and the extra 5" would have been nice too!!! Dammit!

Enjoy your displays, gang.

James
post #9340 of 13486
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Originally Posted by nikolausp View Post

Can you please provide further detail on the things I bolded above? What exactly & precisely does "Just be careful with IR" mean? Specifically how long should be safe to watch things with static logos or black bars? Should I wait at least 100 hours before watching ANYthing with black bars, logos etc? Or, is say 2-3 hours at a time ok with logos, black bars, etc? After 100-200 hours, do I need to be as cautious with the IR stuff? Or should I flip channels back and forth every 15min for the lifetime of my TV?

I'm just confused, I see people say all the time to be careful about IR, but I don't know how long and how much I need to be careful. My 65VT50 gets delivered tomorrow, it's my 1st plasma. I'm a bit scared to even turn the thing on for fear of IR... lol. If I limit my viewing of black bars to 1 movie a night at most, is that considered being careful, or really uncareful? Does the answer to that question change in the first 100 hours vs after 2000 hours?

Will running the slides for the first 100 hours limit my chances of having IR in the future?

Any detail provided about how to best handle IR would be great. Also, I have now read all the posts in both this thread and the Settings thread.

Thanks!

1st and foremost enjoy the great TV and great choice you made.

I have had three Kuro's and all three had IR because of the black bars, my 65VT50 has no IR and I have about 1500 hours on it, I got the VT50 last May.
I don't watch much broadcast TV so I can't say for sure about logos, 98% of my viewing is Blu Ray movies.

imo one of the biggest causes of IR (other than logos and black bars) is "blaze settings" like what you see in a showroom when they have a tv on display.

The best thing is to beware of IR but don't worry about it, if you start to see IR when viewing other source's (programs with no/different logos, movies with no black bars) then it time to run the sweep pattern (black/white) until the IR starts to go away. Remember one thing IR is not burn-in, its something that will go away over time.
IR can happen with 5 hours or 5000 hours on a plasma TV, its just that the more hours you have on the TV the longer it will take to get IR.

What I do is very my movies with and without black bars, and all so when I take a brake for a few I just simply turn on the sweep feature of the VT50. The nice thing with the IR sweep feature is that you can leave what ever you are viewing on and the sweep will over ride that image so all you see is the black and white sweep going across your screen. Then when I come back to view I simply hit the X twice on the VT50's remote and there I am back to what I was viewing. Such a simple thing you can do once you get into the habit, but remember that the sweep pattern will only run for 15 min, so be mindful of that.

If you are going to run slides, make sure there is somebody to check and make sure the slides haven't locked up. Use the THX night mode if you run slides, slides are unnecessary
if you very your source viewing.

ss
post #9341 of 13486
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Originally Posted by jh901 View Post

Can I get a few wall mount suggestions for a 55-65"? I'd like to mount my 55VT50 and I may "trade up" to the 60ZT60 later this year. Appreciate any advice or experiences.
As we speak I am in the process of getting my new 65VT50 mounted. Still not finished, but here's the current state of the Chief TS525TU wall mount I went with. For the 65VT50 TV the TS525TU also needs the FHB5017 Vertical Offset Interface Bracket adapter, because of the extra-wide "wingspan" spacing of the mounting holes on the back of the TV.



It has an amazing 1.5" depth when fully collapsed, and also has a 25.5" maximum reach extended from the wall, with a 15 degree max tilt. For mounting convenience it also has a +/- 8" from center (i.e. 16" total bracket travel on a horizontal track), so that you can put the mount on the wall where the studs are and then slide the bracket 8" left or right from there to get the TV positioned where you want it.

The mount itself weighs about 50 lbs., and it can support up to 125 lb. of TV.



Looks like I'm going to be very happy with the outcome of using this mount.
post #9342 of 13486
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Originally Posted by JoelxD View Post

Honestly, if I didn't play so many video games and the exact ones I play and for how long I play them, I would go with 2 Panasonic VT50's. But with the IR we get from the VT50 that I constantly see, I most definitely wouldn't take the chance with a VT50 for my behavior. I pass out at 3am with a video game on pause a lot and wake up the next day.... When I do play, I play for sometimes literally all day. The games I play have wicked HUD's and several things that are on the screen constantly in the same place, etc..

I don't want to argue with the people that claim this would not be a problem with the VT50. I have both, I see what I see and I can assess a intelligent prediction from my personal behavior. We get IR of TV logos on the VT50 for only 1hr of watching it. Sure it goes away. But another always appears... and I don't want to deal with or fight that playing my games, whether it would turn into a actual problem or not. Thats not the issue. The issue is dealing with it over my precious video games. I wont take that at all. And games sometimes present content that will show the IR, unlike a normal movie or cable. If I see it one time for a second I'd flip.

That said.... I honestly also think the XBR950 presents video games and CGI movies/content better than the XBR950 once calibrated. It has a certain sharpness to it that really looks good on that material that the VT50 doesn't. So I am happy with the exact way I got it. The combination works perfectly.

BUT for a large living room, VT50 all the way -- The viewing angle on the XBR950 sucks compared to the VT50. Literally once you are off center, content degrades. The XBR950 is perfect for bedroom solo or two people dead center thing. Exactly how I got it.

So again... if I didn't play so many games and have my ridiculous rockstar behavior, I'd buy 2 VT50's - Cause the VT50 does indeed present real non-CGI material a TOUCH better and has a ridiculously KICK BUTT viewing angle.

Nice write up, thanks for taking the time. Couple of questions. I am sure I missed it, but are both televisions in the same room when you were viewing them? Do you notice any more lag with one television over the other?
post #9343 of 13486
My 65VT50 was delivered last night, looks great and I cannot hear any buzz at all. It is a November 2012 build. Input some settings I found here and played around a bit, so far it looks great.
post #9344 of 13486
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

1st and foremost enjoy the great TV and great choice you made.

I have had three Kuro's and all three had IR because of the black bars, my 65VT50 has no IR and I have about 1500 hours on it, I got the VT50 last May.
I don't watch much broadcast TV so I can't say for sure about logos, 98% of my viewing is Blu Ray movies.

imo one of the biggest causes of IR (other than logos and black bars) is "blaze settings" like what you see in a showroom when they have a tv on display.

The best thing is to beware of IR but don't worry about it, if you start to see IR when viewing other source's (programs with no/different logos, movies with no black bars) then it time to run the sweep pattern (black/white) until the IR starts to go away. Remember one thing IR is not burn-in, its something that will go away over time.
IR can happen with 5 hours or 5000 hours on a plasma TV, its just that the more hours you have on the TV the longer it will take to get IR.

What I do is very my movies with and without black bars, and all so when I take a brake for a few I just simply turn on the sweep feature of the VT50. The nice thing with the IR sweep feature is that you can leave what ever you are viewing on and the sweep will over ride that image so all you see is the black and white sweep going across your screen. Then when I come back to view I simply hit the X twice on the VT50's remote and there I am back to what I was viewing. Such a simple thing you can do once you get into the habit, but remember that the sweep pattern will only run for 15 min, so be mindful of that.

If you are going to run slides, make sure there is somebody to check and make sure the slides haven't locked up. Use the THX night mode if you run slides, slides are unnecessary
if you very your source viewing.

ss

Thanks so much for the kind detailed response, I appreciate it.

I'm trying to decide if I want to "risk" using the 65VT50 to watch NFL Football this Sunday, or if I should run slides on the TV for 4 days and watch NFL on my old 61" DLP this weekend instead. I guess I'm a bit worried that watching NFL football with the score bar and stuff at the bottom during the first 100 hours will be risky, but I'm not sure on that.

I'd obviously prefer to watch NFL on the VT50 if it's not an extra risk lol.
post #9345 of 13486
I just bought this tv for the football. Maybe it is a blessing it wont be here by sunday! So you are telling me I have to be scared of what I watch? That is crazy! What about video games?
post #9346 of 13486
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Originally Posted by DSperber View Post

As we speak I am in the process of getting my new 65VT50 mounted. Still not finished, but here's the current state of the Chief TS525TU wall mount I went with. .

Good grief those Sanus/Chief products are EXPENSIVE! I want to either wall mount mine or perhaps stand mount, but I hadn't contemplated such extreme pricing.
post #9347 of 13486
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Originally Posted by nikolausp View Post

Thanks so much for the kind detailed response, I appreciate it.

I'm trying to decide if I want to "risk" using the 65VT50 to watch NFL Football this Sunday, or if I should run slides on the TV for 4 days and watch NFL on my old 61" DLP this weekend instead. I guess I'm a bit worried that watching NFL football with the score bar and stuff at the bottom during the first 100 hours will be risky, but I'm not sure on that.

I'd obviously prefer to watch NFL on the VT50 if it's not an extra risk lol.

Use your new VT50 and watch the Game on Sunday.
We are only taking about a chance of a little IR, if at all. Anyway there's always the sweep tool with your new VT50

As I said before, 1st and foremost enjoy the great TV,

I got my VT50 running the sweep right now, because I just got done running the new Calman beta software's 3D LUT cube calibration..

In the words of the great one," how sweet it is".

ss
Edited by sillysally - 1/18/13 at 7:47am
post #9348 of 13486
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Originally Posted by jh901 View Post

Good grief those Sanus/Chief products are EXPENSIVE! I want to either wall mount mine or perhaps stand mount, but I hadn't contemplated such extreme pricing.

Have you checked out www.Monoprice.com ?

They have a pretty wide selection and great prices, of course!
post #9349 of 13486
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Originally Posted by DerekinMerrick View Post

I just bought this tv for the football. Maybe it is a blessing it wont be here by sunday! So you are telling me I have to be scared of what I watch? That is crazy! What about video games?

Heh, i am very anal when it comes to gear. My little story.

Day one i had this tv running slides with wife watching full screen movies via netflix for 30 hours or so on the thx cinama setting.

Day two bro came over, stayed overnight, we played an nba jam fest on the ps3. Around 6 hours or so(using the GAME picture setting). I did use the panny screen washer program in the settings at pee breaks and beer runs. It did not cycle through the full 15min not once.

Before i went to sleep I ran the washer for the full 15min cycle, then the slides (set back on thx cinema). Woke up a few hours later. Noticed the IR from the game, pretty bad. Didnt take a pic. Ran the 15min washer again. Then proceded to run the pixle jogger movie. that ran all day with late night movie watching from the wife. i had work. Overnight she played the jogger. After 20 hours of this, i was home from work. stopped the jogger. Ran the slides. noticed an improvement in the IR. Ran the washer completely then jogger, off to bed. woke up 6hrs later, checked on tv. Slightly better, but still very noticeable on a white screen. Jogger ran all day again, wife movies late at night once again, back to jogger overnight, i get home from work. IR is better than before. Ran washer full cycle. Tried just a whitescreen .mp4 over the jogger this time. Ran that all day. Home from work, IR from game almost gone, Ran the whitescreen.mp4 till i got up from work, game IR gone.

New Issue.
Since i had a the .mp4 was a movie loop. movie was a 1:00 .mp4. You can see the 00 in the upper right of screen. WTF!!! Ran washer on 100 contrast. 30 brightness (3) times in a row. Started to view full sceen movies for rest of the day. IR almost gone. Will just use the Panny washer from now on. I am not running any more looping movies. (funny that box pops up for like 20seconds and it retained in?, guess if it ran 1000 time it should,lol)

Yesterday i played NBA jams for about an hr on thx cinema setting. Ran the slides, you can see some of the game IR'd in. Ran the Panny washer. GONE.

This is my little story having this TV since Jan 11th. I have about 150 hours on this screen.

Questions? Comments?

Great TV. The IR stuff does erk me, but overall this is a top quality set.

Enjoy!!
post #9350 of 13486
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikedit View Post

My 65VT50 was delivered last night, looks great and I cannot hear any buzz at all. It is a November 2012 build. Input some settings I found here and played around a bit, so far it looks great.

Congrats and enjoy, picture gets even better over time.
post #9351 of 13486
hi i am totally new to plasmas , but i just bought a 55VT50
i have some qustions here

Which is the best method on eaproggraming to break in the
Plasma Break-in DVD or
Plasma Break-in DVD Images (usb)

and i have heard contradicting info here about break in , some say turn brightness and contrast way down during break in some say turn it up to torch mode

what # value should i set each (brightness + contrast) at during first 200 hours ?

when should i calibrate after how many hours ?

and is there any free method to calibrate besides just coping others settings ?



p.s. i know these questions have been answered here somewhere but theres 312 pages just in this thread alone and the answers given seem to change or differ from one another.


Thanks for your time guys
post #9352 of 13486
As mentioned previously, I am still having an issue with IR after 300 hrs (when most say it improves after a couple hundred hours). I am really considering getting a replacement because I don't want to have to constantly worry about IR but it appears the majority of people have the same issue to a certain extent and it is just an issue with the panel. I really wanted to get a larger replacement for my 500M but I'm thinking I might just have to go back to the 500M for now. The VT50 is a great display besides the IR issue. I really want to keep it but I am afraid of dealing with IR for the life of the TV. If I returned the VT50, I don't think there is another TV that I would feel happy replacing my Kuro with. I guess if I do return the TV, I will just have to wait another year and see if the IR issue improves or someone else comes out with a better TV.
Quote:
Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

The best thing is to beware of IR but don't worry about it, if you start to see IR when viewing other source's (programs with no/different logos, movies with no black bars) then it time to run the sweep pattern (black/white) until the IR starts to go away. Remember one thing IR is not burn-in, its something that will go away over time.
IR can happen with 5 hours or 5000 hours on a plasma TV, its just that the more hours you have on the TV the longer it will take to get IR.

What I do is very my movies with and without black bars, and all so when I take a brake for a few I just simply turn on the sweep feature of the VT50. The nice thing with the IR sweep feature is that you can leave what ever you are viewing on and the sweep will over ride that image so all you see is the black and white sweep going across your screen. Then when I come back to view I simply hit the X twice on the VT50's remote and there I am back to what I was viewing. Such a simple thing you can do once you get into the habit, but remember that the sweep pattern will only run for 15 min, so be mindful of that.

If you are going to run slides, make sure there is somebody to check and make sure the slides haven't locked up. Use the THX night mode if you run slides, slides are unnecessary
if you very your source viewing.

ss
Quote:
Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

Use your new VT50 and watch the Game on Sunday.
We are only taking about a chance of a little IR, if at all. Anyway there's always the sweep tool with your new VT50

As I said before, 1st and foremost enjoy the great TV,

I got my VT50 running the sweep right now, because I just got done running the new Calman beta software's 3D LUT cube calibration..

In the words of the great one," how sweet it is".

ss

Ya I just find it really lame that you should have to "plan" what you watch and even have to bother with running the sweepers all the time. TVs are meant to be watched...not babied. I didn't buy my VT50 to run the sweeper on it.

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Originally Posted by Shagz View Post

Heh, i am very anal when it comes to gear. My little story.

Day one i had this tv running slides with wife watching full screen movies via netflix for 30 hours or so on the thx cinama setting.

Day two bro came over, stayed overnight, we played an nba jam fest on the ps3. Around 6 hours or so(using the GAME picture setting). I did use the panny screen washer program in the settings at pee breaks and beer runs. It did not cycle through the full 15min not once.

Before i went to sleep I ran the washer for the full 15min cycle, then the slides (set back on thx cinema). Woke up a few hours later. Noticed the IR from the game, pretty bad. Didnt take a pic. Ran the 15min washer again. Then proceded to run the pixle jogger movie. that ran all day with late night movie watching from the wife. i had work. Overnight she played the jogger. After 20 hours of this, i was home from work. stopped the jogger. Ran the slides. noticed an improvement in the IR. Ran the washer completely then jogger, off to bed. woke up 6hrs later, checked on tv. Slightly better, but still very noticeable on a white screen. Jogger ran all day again, wife movies late at night once again, back to jogger overnight, i get home from work. IR is better than before. Ran washer full cycle. Tried just a whitescreen .mp4 over the jogger this time. Ran that all day. Home from work, IR from game almost gone, Ran the whitescreen.mp4 till i got up from work, game IR gone.

New Issue.
Since i had a the .mp4 was a movie loop. movie was a 1:00 .mp4. You can see the 00 in the upper right of screen. WTF!!! Ran washer on 100 contrast. 30 brightness (3) times in a row. Started to view full sceen movies for rest of the day. IR almost gone. Will just use the Panny washer from now on. I am not running any more looping movies. (funny that box pops up for like 20seconds and it retained in?, guess if it ran 1000 time it should,lol)

Yesterday i played NBA jams for about an hr on thx cinema setting. Ran the slides, you can see some of the game IR'd in. Ran the Panny washer. GONE.

This is my little story having this TV since Jan 11th. I have about 150 hours on this screen.

Questions? Comments?

Great TV. The IR stuff does erk me, but overall this is a top quality set.

Enjoy!!

Once again, its sad that you have had to dedicate so much time to getting rid of the IR. You have basically run more content to remove the IR then you have actually watched the TV..
Edited by Mac13 - 1/18/13 at 9:02am
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

Use your new VT50 and watch the Game on Sunday.
We are only taking about a chance of a little IR, if at all. Anyway there's always the sweep tool with your new VT50

As I said before, 1st and foremost enjoy the great TV,

I got my VT50 running the sweep right now, because I just got done running the new Calman beta software's 3D LUT cube calibration..

In the words of the great one," how sweet it is".

ss

Thanks for the encouragement! I appreciate it.

I purchased the WOW disc already since I've read on these forums that maybe it's pixel sweep thing is a better option than the Panasonic one.

Should I use, say, the THX Cinema mode for the first 100 hours or so? Or is there another mode that's even more recommended for this? Do I turn the contrast down? I've read that not having the TV on bright settings for the first 100-200 hours or so can't help prevent IR or burn-in, etc.
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Im about 50hrs in. Out of the box I went straight to THX brightroom which is super bright/contrast. When i'm home most things watched are 2:35 to 1 and when I'm not home most people are watching regular cable with logos etc, but at least its full screen. I run the scroll bar for a few minutes after watching one of my movies, but that's about it. I saw a momentary IR once on a logo, but it disappeared after a few seconds and that's about it for my experiences. I'd say use the tv the way you normally would and just don't make it exclusively one type of picture. Don't be too scared, watch the game, run the scroll bar for 15 mins afterwards and feel better =]
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My 65VT50 was delivered last night, looks great and I cannot hear any buzz at all. It is a November 2012 build. Input some settings I found here and played around a bit, so far it looks great.

My 65VT50 with a November build is also without buzz, except on a pure white panel. Even then I can only hear it when I put my head right up to it. November was a good month for Panasonic.
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My 65VT50 with a November build is also without buzz, except on a pure white panel. Even then I can only hear it when I put my head right up to it. November was a good month for Panasonic.


My 65VT50 that got delivered an hour ago..... is a November build! :-)

btw did Jeff calibrate your 3D day and 3D night as well?
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Originally Posted by nikolausp View Post

My 65VT50 that got delivered an hour ago..... is a November build! :-)

btw did Jeff calibrate your 3D day and 3D night as well?

We just went with one 3D setting, and put that in ISF Day 3D. Looks great!
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

My 65VT50 with a November build is also without buzz, except on a pure white panel. Even then I can only hear it when I put my head right up to it. November was a good month for Panasonic.

I hope so. I've still got my November build 65VT50 sitting in its box in the living room waiting for our basement to be finished. I've only turned it on to verify it was working and there was no damage. We're still 2-3 weeks away from the basement TV room being ready. Doesn't look like we're going to make it before the Super Bowl. mad.gif
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I hope so. I've still got my November build 65VT50 sitting in its box in the living room waiting for our basement to be finished. I've only turned it on to verify it was working and there was no damage. We're still 2-3 weeks away from the basement TV room being ready. Doesn't look like we're going to make it before the Super Bowl. mad.gif

Hope you make it by the Super Bowl. I'd probably set it up somewhere in the house even if the basement isn't ready!
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Where do I find the build date?

My TV is already mounted on the wall, can I look it up in the Menu or by the Serial Number?

Thanks
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