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post #9841 of 12560
2/1/13 at 3:22pm
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Originally Posted by Lord Vader View Post

Shoot me the same PM with that info if you can.

Thanks

Be warned...you don't want to touch anything else while in the Service Menu. If uncertain about this...DON'T DO IT!

Press and hold the {VOL -} button ON THE PLASMA TV.
Then press the {INFO} button on the remote control 3 times.

"Start Adjustment Menu" message will be displayed followed
by the Service Menu after few seconds.


{1} & {2} buttons move through options


Press the {2} button once to select "SRV-TOOL".

Then press the {OK} button to access it.

Using the cursor keys, highlight the right side
of the last item "PTCT :00.00.00.00.00" : (This means highlight the blank square to the right of this - the bottom right cell)

Then press and hold the {MUTE} button for 3 seconds.

Time and Count will be displayed in red color:

TIME = Hours : Minutes of operation.
COUNT = Times the Plasma was powered on.


To exit, unplug the power cable.
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post #9842 of 12560
2/1/13 at 4:00pm
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

Be warned...you don't want to touch anything else while in the Service Menu. If uncertain about this...DON'T DO IT!

Press and hold the {VOL -} button ON THE PLASMA TV.
Then press the {INFO} button on the remote control 3 times.

"Start Adjustment Menu" message will be displayed followed
by the Service Menu after few seconds.


{1} & {2} buttons move through options


Press the {2} button once to select "SRV-TOOL".

Then press the {OK} button to access it.

Using the cursor keys, highlight the right side
of the last item "PTCT :00.00.00.00.00" : (This means highlight the blank square to the right of this - the bottom right cell)

Then press and hold the {MUTE} button for 3 seconds.

Time and Count will be displayed in red color:

TIME = Hours : Minutes of operation.
COUNT = Times the Plasma was powered on.


To exit, unplug the power cable.


Or hold power button for 5-7 sec to exit.
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post #9843 of 12560
2/1/13 at 4:44pm
Hey guys, just got a new 65vt50. I'm having a couple of issues with my tv, just wondering if normal. I noticed blacks on tv look grainy or snowy when close to the tv and buzz when there is a bright scene. Anyone else experienced this?
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post #9844 of 12560
2/1/13 at 4:48pm
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Originally Posted by locdog33 View Post

Or hold power button for 5-7 sec to exit.

Oh...the power button on the TV, not the remote to be clear. Didn't know about that method. Much better than pulling the power!
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post #9845 of 12560
2/1/13 at 6:15pm
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Originally Posted by JGS93GT View Post

I thought about the hours I have on the TV, but I'm assuming the hours on the BB display was quiet alot! So not sure if hours make the picture sharper, but I'm sure the colors get better after 100 hours. I have no issues with the colors on the TV....just the sharpness.
BB already hates me because I went through 3 Samsung 65ES8000 tv's due to the black/white clouds in the panel, and now I'm on this VT.
They said that I can only swap out 1 more TV......so if I want to try the Samsung, they will not take it back!! IMO...that is BS....the 2 Samsung LEDs were faulty and not that is my fault!!
If you don't like your VT50 just get a refund. Get one for that 20 times over charged HDMI cable. You will be a lot smarter shopper if you learn about "edge enhancement" and what a HDMI cable need to do to be perfect. Any HDMI cable from $3.50 to $350 will work exactly the same over fairly short distances -- three to fifteen feet for sure. Real sharpness is in the creation process of the source material you are watching, and into what's done to it before it reaches your TV. Edge enhancement is a distortion of the original source material designed to fool some into thinking they are seeing a "sharper" image.

Any device that scales SD sources for display on a HD TV, including the TV, can effect the picture quality in a negative or positive manor. Blu-ray source material should be displayed just as it's translated from the shinny disk without any player, DVR, AVR, or TV messing with it.
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post #9846 of 12560
2/1/13 at 6:47pm
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

If you don't like your VT50 just get a refund. Get one for that 20 times over charged HDMI cable. You will be a lot smarter shopper if you learn about "edge enhancement" and what a HDMI cable need to do to be perfect. Any HDMI cable from $3.50 to $350 will work exactly the same over fairly short distances -- three to fifteen feet for sure. Real sharpness is in the creation process of the source material you are watching, and into what's done to it before it reaches your TV. Edge enhancement is a distortion of the original source material designed to fool some into thinking they are seeing a "sharper" image.

Any device that scales SD sources for display on a HD TV, including the TV, can effect the picture quality in a negative or positive manor. Blu-ray source material should be displayed just as it's translated from the shinny disk without any player, DVR, AVR, or TV messing with it.

Well said my friend!
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post #9847 of 12560
2/1/13 at 10:26pm

They can fool me all they want! I happen to perfer it.

There are hundreds of members using a similar method

And paying hundreds of dollars for it over at the Darby Darblet thread

Some pay for enhanced processing with Blu Ray players.

It all comes down to personal preferance!

Some like it , some do not.

 

I like my martinis dry, steak med. raresmile.gif

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post #9848 of 12560
2/1/13 at 10:30pm
So can a Dish 720p set top, fed through an Oppo 103, upscaled to 1080p look much better?
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post #9849 of 12560
2/1/13 at 10:46pm
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Originally Posted by Hi Deaf View Post

So can a Dish 720p set top, fed through an Oppo 103, upscaled to 1080p look much better?

I can't say for sure with your setup, but I run my 1080i from my Hopper through my iSCAN Duo to 1080p@24 hz and it is

noticibly better. May not be what the director wants but it works for me.

Why don't you try it and let us know.

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post #9850 of 12560
2/1/13 at 10:48pm
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Originally Posted by SilverCi View Post

Just pulled the trigger on this TV last night at Best Buy. Its getting delivered today... can't wait! I bought a Sharp 70" 847 a couple weeks ago and will be returning it tonight. Didn't like the LCD at all. The off angle viewing was horrible, the SOA was awful...and motion blur was bad too. I also had really bad clouding on dark images. All these reasons made me return it... and go back to plasma.
Ha, my story also. The 70" was bright, but had the problems you mention. My VT65 is awesome. I just figured out that my Panny BDT220 will stream Netflix at 1080p at 24p. It looks beautiful with no lip sync or image problems.
Edited by Hi Deaf - 2/1/13 at 11:24pm
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post #9851 of 12560
2/1/13 at 10:53pm
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Originally Posted by KONICA TECH View Post

I can't say for sure with your setup, but I run my 1080i from my Hopper through my iSCAN Duo to [URL=mailto:1080p@24]1080p@24[/URL] hz and it is
noticibly better. May not be what the director wants but it works for me.
Why don't you try it and let us know.
Thanks, I guess I would have to compare the two side by side to make that $500 decision. I'll check out the iSacn.
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post #9852 of 12560
2/2/13 at 5:28am
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Originally Posted by huntingbears View Post

Hey guys, just got a new 65vt50. I'm having a couple of issues with my tv, just wondering if normal. I noticed blacks on tv look grainy or snowy when close to the tv and buzz when there is a bright scene. Anyone else experienced this?

Yes, normal and normal.

When viewed at an appropriate distance, the "dithering" will not be noticeable. You can also lower your brightness (from what I've read this may help lessen the dithering effect), or have it calibrated by a professional. If I had a VT50 (65 inch to boot), I think I would get it professionally calibrated. I have an ST50 and I've used a mix of CNET and DNICE settings and I like the way mine looks.

There will be some buzz on bright screen if your up close to the set, nature of the beast. If you're an appropriate distance and you have your normal listening volume on with a bright screen, the buzzing will be very hard to detect, if you can even hear any. And don't go looking for it, because sooner or later, you'll think you "hear" it, come back to the boards and be convinced you have a bad set. :-)

Enjoy the VT50!!!!
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post #9853 of 12560
2/2/13 at 5:56am
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Any HDMI cable from $3.50 to $350 will work exactly the same over fairly short distances -- three to fifteen feet for sure..

I would avoid the $100 cables too. Although in theory there shouldn't be any difference, keep in mind that there are 19 wires connected at two ends that can be bad. I've been through 4 different brand/models of cables and found that the Blue Jean brand of cables (their BJC Belden Series-FE) to work best and that's about $15 for 3 foot and $21.75 for 6 foot.
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post #9854 of 12560
2/2/13 at 6:43am
So I just recently purchased an LG lm7600 and let's just say I'm not overly impressed with picture quality. I opted to go the led route bc I thought it would be easier to maintain and would save me the worry of my wife leaving it on either E! Or Bravo all day and causing IR. Now I am having major buyers remorse and am considering taking it back to BB and exchanging it for the VT50 or GT50. 90% of our viewing is HD programming from Dish satellite, including a lot of sports. The other 10% is movies from Apple TV or VUDU. I do not own a bluray player and dont plan on buying one in the near future.

My question is will I see a major difference in picture quality with the programs I watch by switching tothe VT50 or GT50? I have gone to my local BB and have looked at both in store but it is too hard to get a good feel with in store viewing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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post #9855 of 12560
2/2/13 at 7:13am
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

I would avoid the $100 cables too. Although in theory there shouldn't be any difference, keep in mind that there are 19 wires connected at two ends that can be bad. I've been through 4 different brand/models of cables and found that the Blue Jean brand of cables (their BJC Belden Series-FE) to work best and that's about $15 for 3 foot and $21.75 for 6 foot.
Yi. And while in theory, a $3.50 hdmi cable will work exactly the same as a $350 hdmi cable you have to use some common sense. There are differences in the quality of the cable itself. Some are insulated and some are not. Some have better quality connectors than others. Some are in wall rated so they have a thicker outer shell. None of this adds the the quality of the picture or sound necessarily (except perhaps insulated if you are getting a hum or some sort of interference) but can make the cable last longer and take more abuse. There really shouldnt be any reason to spend more than $20 on an hdmi cable unless you are getting something over 15 or 20 feet. The 6 ft hdmi cables I use are top quality and I paid $12.00 a piece for them.
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post #9856 of 12560
2/2/13 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by Nbj1985 View Post

So I just recently purchased an LG lm7600 and let's just say I'm not overly impressed with picture quality. I opted to go the led route bc I thought it would be easier to maintain and would save me the worry of my wife leaving it on either E! Or Bravo all day and causing IR. Now I am having major buyers remorse and am considering taking it back to BB and exchanging it for the VT50 or GT50. 90% of our viewing is HD programming from Dish satellite, including a lot of sports. The other 10% is movies from Apple TV or VUDU. I do not own a bluray player and dont plan on buying one in the near future.

My question is will I see a major difference in picture quality with the programs I watch by switching tothe VT50 or GT50? I have gone to my local BB and have looked at both in store but it is too hard to get a good feel with in store viewing. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

PQ is very similar. VT has better colour accuracy and from what I've seen the VT is better with handling IR. Other than those 2 they are pretty much the same as far as PQ goes.
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post #9857 of 12560
2/2/13 at 10:12am
hey all, new VT50 owner here...lame question but my setup won't allow for a true AVR setup w/ surround speakers. With that, I'd still like to get the best sound out of the actual TV speakers. Does anyone have audio settings that work best for the VT's own speakers?
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post #9858 of 12560
2/2/13 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by stevestrauss9 View Post

hey all, new VT50 owner here...lame question but my setup won't allow for a true AVR setup w/ surround speakers. With that, I'd still like to get the best sound out of the actual TV speakers. Does anyone have audio settings that work best for the VT's own speakers?

I don't have settings for the internal speakers, but would you consider a sound bar connected to the VT50? I can't imagine you are going to get anything worthwhile out of the stock speakers.
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post #9859 of 12560
2/2/13 at 10:23am
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Originally Posted by stevestrauss9 View Post

hey all, new VT50 owner here...lame question but my setup won't allow for a true AVR setup w/ surround speakers. With that, I'd still like to get the best sound out of the actual TV speakers. Does anyone have audio settings that work best for the VT's own speakers?

Yea just invest in a soundbar. VT speakers are pretty good but won't be as good as a decent soundbar.
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post #9860 of 12560
2/2/13 at 10:28am
is there a preferred soundbar that works best w/ the TV?
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post #9861 of 12560
2/2/13 at 10:55am
Looks like there is an official "Which Soundbar Should I Choose" thread on this forum somewhere. May not be specific to the VT50 but should give you lots of ideas and some "reviews".
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post #9862 of 12560
2/2/13 at 11:05am
I am bored so I thought I would share a pic of my 65VT50. All components (DirecTV, Onkyo 818, Apple TV, PS3 and Wii) are on a rack in the closet of the office which is a room behind the living room. The purpose of the picture is not to show off picture quality, just the location of the TV. No one sits in the green chair, it's the dog's chair, the only furniture he is allowed on. Also, the picture on the table is my in laws, I am not that old smile.gif.

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post #9863 of 12560
2/2/13 at 11:14am
It looks smaller than 65" in that picture
Maybe it's the angle or the lighting
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post #9864 of 12560
2/2/13 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by billmich View Post

It looks smaller than 65" in that picture
Maybe it's the angle or the lighting

It's on a big wall. I considered the 80" sharp until I saw the crappy PQ. The 65" is actually perfect for the room, couldn't be happier.
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post #9865 of 12560
2/2/13 at 11:47am
Thanks for the reply locdog. I guess I should rephrase my question. I know that the VT50 is superior when it comes to BD but will I notice a significant improvement in picture quality going from an lg lm7600 to the VT50 for regular hd broadcasting through dish? I watch a lot of sports and primetime tv and my wife watches a lot of E! and Bravo. There is a moderate amount of light in the room it will be going in.
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post #9866 of 12560
2/2/13 at 11:57am
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Originally Posted by KONICA TECH View Post

They can fool me all they want! I happen to perfer it.
There are hundreds of members using a similar method
And paying hundreds of dollars for it over at the Darby Darblet thread
Some pay for enhanced processing with Blu Ray players.
It all comes down to personal preferance!
Some like it , some do not.

I like my martinis dry, steak med. rare:)
You can have your steak, alcohol, and TV any way you want it. biggrin.gif

Many people pay extra, OPPO Blu-ray players are an excellent example, for better conversion to of SD sources to 1080p. That has nothing to do with "edge enhancement" or the blue whites that many enjoy. I've owned several OPPO players, but all I know about the Darby device is what I've read here at AVS.

Enjoy. wink.gif
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post #9867 of 12560
2/2/13 at 12:30pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNUFGoGrDJo


Check this vid above the panny performa well under lights. Regarding the LG yes there will be a difference in PQ compared to the VT. Was at bed buy a few weeks ago and that same LG was next to a samsung PNE8000 and VT50. Next to those panels the LG didnt look great at all.
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post #9868 of 12560
2/2/13 at 2:37pm
Greetings,
Just got a 65" VT50.. (Chris at Cleveland shameless plug) and I am using the break-in slides along with making sure any other source material fills the screen w/o
hard logos for any length of time. Standard mode is OK for night viewing little weak for day. What do you gurus say about upping the contrast to 76, such as the THX Cinema mode?
I think I read where Dnice prescribes Custom mode where contrast is 100. Bottom line, looking for opinions on break-in settings for contrat and brightness.
Thanks for your input in advance...
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post #9869 of 12560
2/2/13 at 3:49pm
I bought a TC65VT50 from Paul`s and got a lemon, TV didn't turn on and was making a loud buzz. Refused and they will send me another one. Damn it, had plans for Superbowl with it, will have to stick with my PN58C8000 for now.
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post #9870 of 12560
2/2/13 at 4:37pm
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Originally Posted by Morphine1680 View Post

I bought a TC65VT50 from Paul`s and got a lemon, TV didn't turn on and was making a loud buzz. Refused and they will send me another one. Damn it, had plans for Superbowl with it, will have to stick with my PN58C8000 for now.

Surprised you had trouble with Paul's TV. They checked the set on delivery to make sure that it was functioning. I have the 55VT50 and it is outstanding. Hope the replacement works great for you. It's an awesome set.
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