Theta CB III HD in the house (with my ADA Mach IV)! - Page 5

PEQ is here and now. DIRAC is still vapor for you and who knows how good the installation be in the Theta. A lot of unknowns.

I've never built a system for what's coming as you miss out on excellence sonics today (and yesterday). Today you're compromised in sonics on Blu Ray tracks. I don't think you even have HDMI. The PEQ is light years past what you have.

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Thanks! Should be a fun, telling shoot out!

Didn't Theta demonstrate the Valis - and fail to release it? Even had ads in the magazines. Yes. I was there at CEDIA in Indianapolis to see the 'promised' prototype. Dirac is not set in stone until it is.

And Yes, I am aware of the DIRAC Beta test (Mattias).

I like Curt. Smart guy. He has a great product that competes with PEQ on the ADA. I would expect he would prefer it, he sells it... and I agree with his assessment. I have traveled to shows to hear it in action. No argument - it is a superior product. For $10K, you get a lot better reference room correction.

The ADA PEQ is better than you think. And I will soon test the ADA with PEQ vs the Theta without. We'll see how weak it really is...

And how have you been addressing things over the last 5-10 years (e.g. phase)?? You haven't - but you talk as if you have. I have. So, what is your point and why so argumentative??

Nice colorful spin. But Theta has a history of advertising products that never materialize. We agree.



And yes, you chide me for the way I deal with phase, but you have no solution in your theater. That's a problem for you and may explain your disappointment in your sound.

Are you using even a CB III HD (meaning is your set up even relevant when you're bad mouthing mine) or are you theorizing?

Thank you from all of us (and the moderator) and I'll let the dealer know the dealer police checked in.

Hey Craig!

I've heard the audiophile speakers and they're great for music or 100 db peaks but they all lack the dynamics of compression drivers and at higher volumes ALL suffer driver compression. I just couldn't rationalize doing such in my theater. I didn't design my room to handcuff my dynamic range.

If the Theta is that great, I'll order one.

But we have a lot of talk here and everyone thinks what they own is the best and argue incessantly on theory or high MSRP and offer no proof of their claims.

I'm taking the matter into my own hands. It only costs me time. But no one else has done it. Nobody has had more SSPs than me and I love the changing out and variety. Just like cars.

At $26000 I'd expect it to whoop ass against my piece at 1/3 of the price!!

We'll see.

Remember this is hobby and shoot outside this are what it's all about.

Hi Jim,

I'm familiar with the Porsche analogies (i own a new Turbo S). But the Nissan GTR by many professional reviewers deem it better than my Turbo S on the track and nearly so in acceleration... At almost $80,000 less! Price is not always commensurate with performance. That's AVS 101. There are world beaters out there. No regrets on owning the more expensive car just like regardless of what I find here, the Theta in your own rig will still sound the same whether I find it better, worse, or the equal to the ADA.

My room is acoustically treated. The HT designer contracted out an acoustical company who spent 8 days fully treating my 'built from the ground up' room. This isn't a basement theater like the majority here. It's on the main from built as an extension to the main house. Its as balanced I room as I have ever seen.

Craig calls the Theta a great'multi use' processor. And I agree. But I am home theater only. If music was my thing I'd have your run of the mil $20K - $30K LCRs and I'd have ditch my Microperf and baffle wall (no way)!!!!!

But in working with Mark Seaton and having a goal to build the best home theater movie playback system I could, horns had to implemented. Tweeters no matter what the design (dispersion and dynamics) can't compete with compression drivers in my opinion. And yes, we had to do some EQing to tame the LCRs with DSPs but the results are amazing... Even with LCR monitors that retail at just under $10K for three of them. I have been doing room correction well before it was popular as I understand you just can't let the movie play and hope for the best even with pain stakingly placed acoustical treatments.

I don't know how the Theta will fare but I've never put a lot of Credit in the fact that the SSP is the most important factor in sound. I rank the room, acoustical treatments, DSPs and speakers far ahead a box with a power supply, DACs, and a few chips. Testing the Theta will prove or disprove my theory - that's my main reason for doing it.

Instead of attacking me for taking the time to do this, I'd hope the Theta guys would help with set up or make recommendations on setting slopes, etc or other buried settings.

I'm getting my cabling on Monday but with the holidays coming won't be around much over the next 2 weeks. I'm going to cable it and set up one of my blu Ray players on it.

I guess what many Theta guys don't understand is the choices I made in my theater were my own based on my own decisions, professionals, and my own research. I chose to use pro audio equipment in meting out the sound I wanted. If I wanted to spend more on a Theta, boutique amps and speakers, don't you think I would've. Heck, I spent $8000 on a piece of glass (ISCO). It wasn't a budget issue (my weekend car cost far more than Bulldogger and Bruzonky's equipment combined). These were my choices based on achieving a desired outcome. How can you bash someone for that? It'd be like me bashing someone's wife because she wasn't my type! Ive been critical to Theta Inc. for a long time but never personally to any Theta guy. So, let's cut the personal crap and try and be more constructive and grown up. A lot of arguing and I haven't even powered up the CBIII yet!

Let's get back to fun and civility. I'll do my best to set it up fairly and will have others from AVS to listen, too. All this bashing against someone taking the time to do a test that is long over due...

Clear and concise. In explaining my preference for compression drivers, I couldn't have been nearly so precise.. It fully acquits my argument. There's no free lunch, but dynamics are my #1 characteristic in movie sound speakers.

Quiet Dynamics"... I guess that means, as was implied, if you have a ceiling as in output on your speakers, you have to quiet the room for more dynamics.

Nice post.