Theta CB III HD in the house (with my ADA Mach IV)! - Page 4

The slopes are very important in a set-up like yours. You have extremely powerful subs but much less capable sats. Running those sats within as ideal a range as possible will give you the most dynamic range with the less distortion. I am specifically considering your situation. It will not matter if the ADA can match the slopes of the Casablanca and if you don't steep of slopes. Crossover types matter too but not so much.

The suggestion for a Six Shooter is not well thought through. You are running 8 channel and the Six Shooter is ONLY 6 channels. Therefore you need 2 Six Shooter to cover 8 channels. Ideally you need the first one set to cover channels 1-6 and the jumper in the second one set to handle the 7-12 channels. That's a major hassle. You can get around the need to set the second Six Shooter by using the level controls of the ADA to some extent. That's just too much to ask for what you are doing?? You need 16 XLR between the two processors, and 2 cheap rca interconnects between the Casablanca into the first 6 shooter and the second rca into the other Six Shooter. I sold both of my Six Shooters and all of those cables. The sound was great but I could clearly see the future at Theta was digital.

It would be nice to know what kind of slope you are using. The adjustments of the QSC could tell you if you needed a steeper slope than the ADA is providing.

I would send you mine, but I am still using it. Keep in mind you would need extra cables as well. If you run 5.1, you need 3 x 3 pairs of XLR's. 1 x ADA to SS, 1 x CBIII to SS, and 1 x SS to poweramps.

Even more fun would be to run a Marantz UD9004 into the third SS input (#2), and have a three way, triple blind shoot out, especially on SACD.

I mentioned that myself. Obviously in 7.1 mode you would need a 2nd six shooter. You would do the shootout in 5.1 mode. This double blind would still be far more reliable than having to swap cables, have 10 minute interval, and actually know what you are listening to.

Just a passing opinion, but if you "really" want to test and see how it stacks up against your current SSP, would having someone who is familiar in the correct setup of the Theta unit be more prudent?

As we have seen so many times with comparisons of any audio gear, incorrect setup will always result in disappointment. I don't see this comparison changing anything the way it is going.

I would not worry about it too much. Setting up a CBIII is not overly complicated, and you can always ask the forum for help. Given that there is no room correction involved, the chances of setting it up incorrectly and getting subpar results are minimal in my estimation.

This is a great thread.

Whatever the outcome of the test (especially if they are close) I am sure people will claim it is not valid due to cables/speakers/setup/room not being good enough to hear the Theta's sonic benefits over the ADA.

Also Jeff, are you using a $3k power cord? If not the sound stage is ruined I have been told.

Can anyone believe this demo is worth "watching" or "listening" for?
That's what The Bland is all about, "features". Its never about the music!

It doesn't matter how he sets it up, how long he burns it in, whether his ears are full of wax for the CB3 HD demo and clear for the ADA. His "findings" will be the same. Neil Sinclair should have given him a free CB3 years ago and the goodwill and good press from The Bland would have been sensational!

You mean if he gave you the "free" CB3 and your wife gave him PR advise!

I think Neil did both himself and us Theta luvers a big favor when he sold to Morris Kessler and ATI, when he had "offshore" offers from China.

Morris has the assets and manufacturing capability to consolidate Theta into ATI, buy B&K as a lower priced line, and actually keep Theta going better than ever, even over your years of catcalling Theta (and for a good year or two, I actually thought you would turn out to be right). Morris is likely the only one who could have pulled this off.

What are you waiting for? It's not complicated to plug it in and use it.

I fully expect this to be a total waste of time on our part. We all know the result before you even start. ADA WooHoo...Theta Sucks. Those who don't learn from History are doomed to repeat their mistakes. And your History has ALWAYS been Anti-Theta.

For a solid year The Bland essentially was "kicked" off the official Theta thread because his doomsaying turned out to be wrong. Now some "fool" lets him demo a CB3 HD thinking The Bland will give it a fair shake.
#1, the sound in his room sucks, for when someone repeatedly tells you that his room sounds great for movies but not so good for music, give me a break!! Bulldogger, me and others know how to have a theater room that still sounds really good on music and well as movies.

Not 3000.00 power cords. It's the 300 hundred dollars per speaker that I have found a limitation. Those are the real reason that all processors sound the same in his system. Honestly, I agree with him. He's not likely to hear any advantage to having a 20K processor vs a 6K model. Yamaha speakers are not really known for their resolution. He has powerful great quality subs and they are the only components not limited by his auxiliary components. So sure EQ, will be of huge benefit with such a system.

Really the expensive processors seem foolish. Personally,i believe he would be better served by buying an Integra and not spending 10K on outboard Trinnov but investing that money in some higher quality speakers.

"There are more than a handful of [op amps] that sound so good that most designers want to be using them as opposed to discreet transistors. Dave Reich, Theta 2009 "

Your AVS signature for several years now says it all, doesn't it?

Historically you hate Theta. Is DougWinsor your twin?

You [edit] or someone else already pointed that out, whatever it's supposed to mean.

Now would you guys please lay off the sniping at Jeff (who is to be commended for not responding in kind)?

Rather than harp on Jeff's bias, why not wait until he actually reports on his findings and then respond?

Who made you the hall monitor?

Jeff would be very, very disappointed and probably wouldn't even do the demo if there was no "sniping" in this thread. Jeff thrives on "sniping"!

Jeff would you mind terribly if you added "Thor" (Ice Giants battle) & "Iron Man 2" (Final battle) please.

Thanks mate

Blade

So you are already planning to keep the ADA. The comparison is only to prove the ADA is better. Waste of everyone's time.

A year and a half ago, I would have been interested. Now, I am waiting to hear the new dacs with Dirac Live. PEQ, that's like last century tech and I am completely uninterested in that. My set-up is going to include at least one Gen 8, the new Digi out card, and Dirac live. None of which you have.