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post #31 of 774
I found the 1402 on sale a few months ago to replace a 4 times more expensive Onkyo that died 2 months outside of the warranty.

I am SUPER happy with the 1402.

The low height of the unit gives it plenty of airspace above it in most racks or shelving units. Heat is the #1 killer of AVRs.

Also, the switching on this unit is the best! I use Optical out of a cable box for audio and component right into the TV, then HDMI for my Blu Ray and Xbox, and the 1402 is smart enough to switch to ARC when I stream video on the TV, then will switch Back to the Optical input from the Cable box when the TV is switched back to component.

If I turn on the blu ray player, the 1402 will switch to the blu ray player, and continue passing audio to the TV if I shut the 1402 off.

In the past, this was all a pain, switching inputs on the TV and the receiver. I love how this little unit works!

I DID get it on sale at Best Buy, I'm going to troll the BB for the 1602 to clearance out and move the 1402 to the bedroom.
post #32 of 774
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Originally Posted by fulhamx5 View Post

do i have to wait for 1603?
does marants 1602 sound reaaly good for music?
would u choose pioneer 921 or maratz 1602?


I have the pioneer 926-k or whatever the 2011 model was call for living room and a marantz 1403 for my PC room which i am using my PC beside it.

I was using the same setup and play a movie. I love my 1403 NR a lot more since it produce sounds that make you feel you are in the movie. Pioneer produce overly powerful sound (not sure if it is the adjustment ) but it produce sound overly powerful making the movie most sound feel out of place.

well you can figure what i mean anyway.


I don't miss the network capability since it is right beside my PC anyway.
post #33 of 774
How would you think the NR1403 (new) compares to the SR5006 (refurb)? I am looking at using it for 5.1 running B&W 685 all around. Does the NR1403 have a similar DAC? My main concerns is audio quality, I use the receiver mainly 50% 2 ch stereo and 50% HT. I want to make sure that the 1403 has a source direct option to get the best 2 ch stereo and does good 5.1 for movies. I feel the 50wpc will be adequate for my room and speakers being pretty efficient, but any feedback would be great.

Also any features I would miss going with the 1403 vs sr5006, airplay and 7.1 is not a concern for me. I want an excellent sounding 5.1 receiver that works good for stereo and HT with no fuss.


I am going from an older Sony ES3300.

Thanks
post #34 of 774
Unless you need the slimline model I see no reason to buy it over the 5006.

5006 has more power and features plus uses Audyssey MultEQ XT.
post #35 of 774
The 5006 is $100 more then the NR1403 you think the MultiEQ XT and more power is worth the cost? Any benefits to XT in a 5.1 configuration?
post #36 of 774
XT would be more beneficial regardless of whether you had a 2.0 setup or a 7.1 setup ... it's not about the number of speakers, it's about what it does for the speakers that are present that matters.
post #37 of 774
Thanks guys, I guess the 5006 is one. Now I just need to dig under the sofa to find the additional $100 I need to buy it.
post #38 of 774
Quick question everyone.

I have a really great 2 channel tube amp/preamp stereo setup but I now want to add rear/center speakers to enjoy some Home Theater action!

Will the 1403 allow me to carry on using my 2 channel system and just add processing and power to the extra speakers when I want to play a movie?

My Preamp has a pass-through for Home Theater.
post #39 of 774
At a minimum, the 1403 needs to provide FL/FR channel audio so you could connect the 1403 FL/FR pre-outs to the 2CH tube amp and continue to let it power those speakers while the 1403 powers the C/SL/SR speakers.
post #40 of 774
How would the processor know to send rear channel info to the rear channels if I was using FL and FR?

My desire is to continue with 2 channel tube system just as it is but ADD the processing and power for surrounds.
post #41 of 774
Based on the source input connected to the 1403 and/or the 5.1 simulation surround mode selected.
post #42 of 774
Long time lurker, first time poster.

I have finally decided to upgrade from TV speakers. I have been looking to get either the NR1603 or NR1602 receiver for my living room HT (16' x 13'). It has all the features I want (networking, enough inputs, etc), with the exception of MultiEQ XT that is available in comparable receivers.

I am looking to power a 5.1 system using Paradigm MilleniaOne speakers and either a Paradigm Seismic 110 or SVS SB12-NSD sub.

In the future, I may upgrade the MilleniaOne speakers to something like the Paradigm Millenia 30 speakers, starting with the center, and then the FL/FR speakers.

I don't plan on listening to anything too loud. The primary use is for movies, with occasional gaming and music listening.

My question is whether the NR1603 or NR1602 would be powerful enough to drive everything?

Should I be looking at getting a SR6006 / SR6007 instead?
post #43 of 774
Those are apparently fairly inefficient speakers at only 84db and 6-ohm; however, as long as you won't be listening out really loud levels, either the 1602 or 1603 should be fine as they're still only tiny satellite speakers.
post #44 of 774
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Those are apparently fairly inefficient speakers at only 84db and 6-ohm; however, as long as you won't be listening out really loud levels, either the 1602 or 1603 should be fine as they're still only tiny satellite speakers.

May I ask where you got your efficiency numbers from? Paradigm quotes the sensitivity as "Sensitivity - Room / Anechoic : 89 dB / 86 dB" on their website for the MilleniaOne's. The Millenia 30 is quoted as "Sensitivity - Room / Anechoic : 94 dB / 91 dB".

Edit: Also, is there a general rule I could follow to determine what kind of power I would need to drive these speakers?
Edited by DerekK912 - 8/14/12 at 1:24pm
post #45 of 774
Test report ---> http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/article/test-report-paradigm-milleniaone-speakers-milleniasub-subwoofer?page=0,3

Most any AVR can power 86db+ efficient and 8-ohm speakers without problems .... becoming more difficult as the efficiency lowers and impedance nears 4-ohm impedance.
post #46 of 774
Hello everyone, I thought I would drop in to get some info from Marantz owners. I just purchased a set of Mirage Nanostat 5.0 sepakers that I plan on either using for my office, bedroom or maybe garage. I have always had Onkyo AVR's ( still like them BTW wink.gif ) but I thought I would adventure off into another brand as I have never had another. I have read the specs on the Marantz's so I understand the quality & such. What kinda confuses me it that a few members are telling me thier is no "sound" difference between the Dennon & Marantz's models... is that true?? I have been looking into the Dennon 1712 & Marantz NR1501 as I like the looks ove the NR1501 "slim" but the 1712 offers a bit more.... same price as well. Is thier a noticeable difference in sound between Dennon & Marantz is the main question i guess?? Its not that I need all the bells & whistles but then again its thier if I ever need it. Even thou the Mirage Nanostat's are not the most efficient as they are only 89 ( used to Klipsch as they are more eff.) and the Marantz offers 50w per channel thats fine with me as I know the Marantz can push tha with ease, so no questions thier.
post #47 of 774
This is actually the 1403/1603 thread both of which use Audyssey MultEQ. The 1501 is a dated HDMI 1.3 AVR which doesn't feature the better Audyssey MultEQ XT in the 1712 which would more than likely provide for better audio quality.
post #48 of 774
No problem..understand. I was just curious in sound difference is all. Ok lets say I used the 1402, and even thou the Dennon has the XT is there a difference in performace??
post #49 of 774
The XT would still have a slight advantage, although not likely that much with those tiny satellite speakers.
post #50 of 774
I'm torn between getting a reduced 1602 or a 1403.

Will these units drive some Paradigm Millenia 20/30's? I have a powered sub.

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Originally Posted by tengizk View Post

And, finally, on top of all this it's a slim very slick looking device that fits in my setup better that any larger receiver.
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Where did you get that shelving, I want!!!
post #51 of 774
I'm planning to upgrade my Marantz SR-7001 and was thinking of buying the Marantz NR1603. I know the 700x line is the flagship model that Marantz offers however after owning it all these years I've come to realize I don't end up using all the features it provides. Currently, I have the system hooked up to a 55inch LCD, Cable box, 3D Blu-Ray, and multiple gaming systems. The main reason for the upgrade is the ability to pass through 3D from the blu-ray and some audio syncing issues i've started to notice when playing 3d on the older av receiver. I've played around with the syncing delays but can't get it quite right so i'm using that as my excuse to upgrade =). Also, the airplay abilities and passthrough options for the cable box when I don't want to have the surround system on make it an appealing buy even with the downgrade.

I know that i'll be stepping down to 50w from the 110w that the 7001 has but I rarely if ever turn my receiver up to full power. That seems to be the major difference that I've read about. Am I missing any other major downgrades with the NR1603? Or, for the regular use of TV, Blu-Ray, and gaming, will I be ok spending half the price of the new SR-7007 and going wit hthe NR1603?

Thanks.
post #52 of 774
As long as your speakers are 8-ohm and 87db+ efficiency rated, then no worries.
post #53 of 774
Hi Folks, just wanted to check, if any of the current receivers from Denon or Marantz are universal voltage (dual). I saw in one of the threads that their might be a switch inside which you can flick to change the required voltage? any input will help??
post #54 of 774
Nope. frown.gif

Although there are places that will fit them with 220v power supplies if you're going out of the USA.

http://www.220-electronics.com/receivers/220_volts_audio_video_receiver.htm
post #55 of 774
Hi guys - just wondering if anyone who owns the NR1603 can post up their thoughts / experiences with it so far? Not a lot of activity on this thread, I assume that's just because most AVS forum folks probably use the bigger, full power AVR's. I am looking to replace my old Denon 2309 and the slimline receivers are really attractive to me as I live in a small-ish apartment and just like moving towards smaller more compact , lighter-weight belongings overall.

I am running a Def Tech 5.1 system with the ProMonitor 1000's for L/R/Rears and a ProCenter 2000, plus a sub. The speakers are 8-ohm and 91db sensitivity, so they should work, just wondering if I'll lose a lot of the power and "fullness" of the sound (esp when playing music, which I sometimes play in "5.1 stereo" mode to get more immersion). I would be going from a 100w/channel to 50w/channel with this move.

My components are Xbox360, AppleTV (would probably keep it for video streaming and just use the built-in for audio), Roku, Blu-Ray, and TV is OTA from a Samsung D8000 LED, and intend to use ARC for audio to the AVR (current 2309 does not do this).

Thanks for any input, hope to get a new receiver soon, and a non-behemoth is attractive, but not worth it if I'd give up sound quality and power.
post #56 of 774
As long as you're not currently using the 2309CI at really loud volume (doubtful living in an apartment), you'll likely be fine with the 1603, especially with those efficient speakers. Check the Sammy's owner's manual as ARC audio is generally limited to only PCM 2.0 while using the optical audio output can pass DD 5.1 on the OTA HD channels.
post #57 of 774
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

As long as you're not currently using the 2309CI at really loud volume (doubtful living in an apartment), you'll likely be fine with the 1603, especially with those efficient speakers. Check the Sammy's owner's manual as ARC audio is generally limited to only PCM 2.0 while using the optical audio output can pass DD 5.1 on the OTA HD channels.

Thanks, that's great info. I suppose I can always just return it if I find that the output power isn't sufficient, but I think you're right it will be fine. I'm not pushing loud volume levels, except once in a while and even then it's probably not taxing the system too hard.

I'll look into the ARC / SPDIF specs on the TV, thanks for the heads up. I know there is an option for "audio out" to select PCM or Dolby Digital, but it doesn't specify how many channels, or if it differentiates between optical out and ARC.
post #58 of 774
I ended up with NR1403 as the difference between that and 1603 isn't that great, atleast the price difference compared to 1603 is way too big. I'm really satisfied with my decision so far. I have Audiovector S1 Super bookshelf speakers and they sound really good with this amplifier. I'm currently only running 2.0 setup, but atleast I have the option to expand if needed.
post #59 of 774
I'm torn between the 1403 and 1603. I will be installing a Sonos system in five rooms of my house(including living room, where the TV is) as well as an AppleTV. Given these two additions, is a networked receiver necessary?

Thanks in advance.
post #60 of 774
If you are going to invest in Sonos, I don't think you need the 1603, but 1403 will do just fine.
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