Spend more for a few more watts? HELP

I have the pioneer 821-K. Rated at 80watts per channel 20-20khz.
125 watts per ch @ 1khz-6ohm. All my speakers are 6ohm.

I want to upgrade to a 1122k(2012), or a 1121k(2011) model because of the
fact I can run .2 subs and even out the bass to fill the room.

The other reason is that I want a little more power avaliable to my speakers. My fronts are rated @130 max and they were blown due to clipping in 5.1 having run out of juice from the wittle (821) weciever trying to power all of it.

Will I be gaining that much more headroom switching to the other model mentioned with an additional 10-20 watts 20hz-20khz?

Funny that the brand new 1122k rates 90 watts per ch@ 20hz-20khz, but
@1hz-6ohm its 165 watts ,where the the 821 is @125watts.

All info below from pioneers website.

821K--- 80watts @ 20hz-20khz 125 watts at 1khz 6ohm
1121k--- 110 @ ^^^^^^^ 125 ^^^^^^^^^^^
1122k----- 90 @ ^^^^^^^ 165 ^^^^^^^^^^

I learned how to tell if I am approaching clipping and dont need a lecture on that. I know that the power ratings are bull crap under actual use. I want to stay with pioneer. I am not planning on building a huge system in the near future but would like more power just in case. I just want to give my pioneer andrew jones low priced speakers the right amount of power to make them sing to the best of their ability.

Any knoledge from you guys would be really helpfull in my deciding to upgrade, thanks.

the tweets in the fronts

Im coming from a sony "1000watt" , HTIB with speakers the size of my hand. Its the only sound ive ever had so im just learning what all the hookups on a real AVR is for. Honestly, I just learned what a pre amp out does from jeffer65. Still pretty green I am.

Im looking to fool-proof my system and have the exact right amount of power to not blow the speakers.
My girlfriend likes to turn it up and listen to music while she works in the garden 150' down the yard. I dont want to worry bout her blowing my speakers. my thought behind this, to little power = clipping.

When I hear it start to clip once its loud the receiver is at 73 volume out of 80, so I turn it back a couple notches to loose the disstortion (clip) to be safe. Im wondering if I add just a few more watts 10-30 more watts that it will be a girl proof system and I wont worry bout running out of power for the speakers.

With that being said, I want to run some speakers outside off of B-zone at a later date.

Learned somthing new, AGAIN!. thanks paul.

You know the saying "learn somthing new everyday"?
Im so green I learn somthing new every 5 minutes.
Thanks for helping a rookie guys.

I was listening to the new Van halen CD (purchased copy) and from the amazing sound of GODS guitar I couldent distinguish any other disstortion or "bad sounds" at the moment I fried the tweets. Sounded normal, Good,real good. Sure enough white smoke from tweets though at volume 75. Thats 75 vol out of 80, I know loud. I was asking to much from said AVR probably.

As far as the max volume controller, I might look into that but a funny thing happened after I fried those tweetys. I spiked the volume up very fast once I got the new floorstanders (same model) and the receiver dropped the max vol at 76. So the receiver dropped the max on me, on its own. pretty cool I think.
The AVR might be trying to outthink my girlfriend!

Sounds like upgrading to a whole new receiver with a little more power just aint going to do anything for me as far as loudness or clipping protection goes. Sounds like my best bet is to just take it easy and teach the woman its limits untill I upgrade all over again.

I went into this project thinking if I match the max watts on speakers to the high power rating givin on AVR spec sheet I would be safe. FAILED!
Then I learned about underpowered the hard way. CLIPP.

Yeah, the first time I heard it I was all WTF. After a second listen I was stoked to hear that guitar again. The CD aint to bad. I blew my tweetys on the first 30 seconds too TATTOO. I tweaked my settings on everything to make anything sound great. So lets just say im happy with the tone im gettin.

Looking at the back of the 821-K, it looks like the sub out is also labeled pre amp,and the front hight is labeled pre out in the form of red-white rca style holes. So what do I doo there if I buy an amp to power extras, like just the front two towers or speakers "B".
Im guessing pre-out and pre-amp are different? Also if I use the same pre amp that my sub is out of, will I loose the sub or have to run it through a differnt amp(s) after daisy chaining?

Pioneer, FS-51, BS-21, SP-C21, SW-8. The andrew jones budget home theater ones.

I know what you mean, but, I threw in the word budget because these things are an unbeatable bang for buck bargain, and people with a lot-o-money dont use the word budget very much. Im on a budget, big time.
This line sounds freakin awsome, if you find em via search, check out the reviews. A good thread under-- pioneers speaker genius hits low point-- under this catagory (speakers) in this forum is proof. They have a huge fan base.

They may be a little on the lower spec side, but they sure sound good. Just need a lil power to get there imo. Way better then spending 50,000 on some of the stuff hes made.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...eater+Speakers