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post #31 of 226
5/13/12 at 12:06pm
Just in case anyone was interested, I did sell my HF G10 with a ton of extras to some amateur film guys. I lost my shirt on it at $1k.
But the good news is my aunt wanted a new camera and we went to Best Buy and I suggested the Sony NEX-5N.
She tried it and really liked it. Plus it was on sale so she bought it.

Hopefully we can use it once in a while.
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post #32 of 226
5/14/12 at 4:02am
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Originally Posted by Steve Cebu View Post

Just in case anyone was interested, I did sell my HF G10 with a ton of extras to some amateur film guys. I lost my shirt on it at $1k.
But the good news is my aunt wanted a new camera and we went to Best Buy and I suggested the Sony NEX-5N.
She tried it and really liked it. Plus it was on sale so she bought it.

Hopefully we can use it once in a while.

Glad to hear Steve. Yeah, selling this stuff usually results in a pretty significant hit, but I'm sure you can use the $1K at this point.

I hope you get to use your aunt's NEX5 (didn't realize BB was carrying it yet). I was using it yesterday and it really is capable of taking some stunning video. That large chip really gives the image a look that you can't quite achieve with smaller chips. The Canon still trumps the NEX in really low light, but at this point I only have the kit lens. It might be a lot better with a fast prime lens. With that said, I'm really surprised how sharp the kit lens is.

The only downside I've seen to the NEX picture is an occasional bit of moire that can be seen in areas such as brickwork. But given the other attributes of the picture, it's easily overlooked.
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post #33 of 226
5/14/12 at 6:58am
Yes, the extra cash helped out a lot. Things are a bit tough up here.

I can't wait to play with the NEX-5N as i have to figure out how to use it to show her. I didn't actually have her get it at Best Buy she saw it there but I didn't care for the silver body so she ordered it from B&H Photo with a black body.

I think a decent fast prime lens that has low distortion and costs around $300 would be ideal. Sadly their best lens is about $1,100 for the Zeiss.
I dislike the F3.5 on the kit lens, but I guess it was a compromise.
I'm have rather seen a f1.8 or f2.0 on the kit lens which actually seems pretty nice.
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post #34 of 226
5/14/12 at 12:29pm
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Steve, when you begin playing with the NEX, try raising sharpness 1 notch as well as color. You'll have to read the manual to see how to do it, but it's easy to do with the control wheels on top.

I also will sometimes go down -.3 on the exposure side. That too is easy to do in Movie mode by simply pressing the bottom part of the mulch-funcition circular wheel, down. You then rotate the wheel to the desired EV value.

Have fun!

There is a learning curve with this camera since it is so deep in its abilities. The audio is also surprisingly good for an onboard mike.
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post #35 of 226
5/14/12 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

Steve, when you begin playing with the NEX, try raising sharpness 1 notch as well as color. You'll have to read the manual to see how to do it, but it's easy to do with the control wheels on top.

I also will sometimes go down -.3 on the exposure side. That too is easy to do in Movie mode by simply pressing the bottom part of the mulch-funcition circular wheel, down. You then rotate the wheel to the desired EV value.

Have fun!

There is a learning curve with this camera since it is so deep in its abilities. The audio is also surprisingly good for an onboard mike.


I'll try that, although my aunt is likely to want to leave it in auto mode and just take pictures of her cat.

It's due in tomorrow, so I'll get some hands on time with it then.
I like the NEX-7 but the cost is way out of her budget.

The NEX-7 is what I would buy if I was getting one because you can't put an LCD hood on the 5N. So you'd need a viewfinder for very sunny days.
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post #36 of 226
5/14/12 at 4:01pm
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Steve, you can get the OLED VF for the NEX-5N. As Mark pointed out, it does have the advantage over my 7 of being able to tilt. With that said, I still prefer the integrated approach of the 7.
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post #37 of 226
5/14/12 at 10:00pm
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

Steve, you can get the OLED VF for the NEX-5N. As Mark pointed out, it does have the advantage over my 7 of being able to tilt. With that said, I still prefer the integrated approach of the 7.


As I said it's not my camera, if it was I would have gotten the NEX-7 because you have a flash and a hot shoe along with a viewfinder.
The 5N has neither the flash nor the VF, so you have to pick one, you can't have both.

That said it should work great for my aunt. It was supposed to be delivered today but for some reason it wasn't.
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post #38 of 226
5/14/12 at 10:47pm
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Glad to hear Steve. Yeah, selling this stuff usually results in a pretty significant hit, but I'm sure you can use the $1K at this point.

I hope you get to use your aunt's NEX5 (didn't realize BB was carrying it yet). I was using it yesterday and it really is capable of taking some stunning video. That large chip really gives the image a look that you can't quite achieve with smaller chips. The Canon still trumps the NEX in really low light, but at this point I only have the kit lens. It might be a lot better with a fast prime lens. With that said, I'm really surprised how sharp the kit lens is.

The only downside I've seen to the NEX picture is an occasional bit of moire that can be seen in areas such as brickwork. But given the other attributes of the picture, it's easily overlooked.

The Nex-5N should totally crush the Canon in low light with a fast lens. I've seen some stunning examples and a guy who has tried the best DSLRs and camcorder up to ones costing thousands said it was hands down the best low light video on any camcorder or DLSR under $5,000 (before the Mark III came out though)....it's supposed to beat the 5D Mark II and I know the Canon camcorder cannot top the 5D Mark II in low light.

Oops. You are talking about the Nex-5, not he 5N, not sure how much worse the 5 is in low light, but it should be much better with a fast lens. lol.
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post #39 of 226
5/15/12 at 7:02am
Thanks Ken, I am looking for a cam and are considering the XA10, GH2, and now the NEX 7. I read the HF G10/XA10 forum and know how highly you rated your XA10...so to read your praise for the NEX-7 certainly makes me stop and take notice!
I wish they had more fast primes available, however I understand other lenses can be used with Novaflex adapters. Anyway thanks for all your great insights, I look forward to seeing some more clips using the NEX-7!
Gary
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post #40 of 226
5/15/12 at 10:25am
I have owned the HF-G10, multiple GH2's, the Sony 5n, the Nex-7 and have "graduated" to the Sony Alpha SLT-A57.

I loved the 5n, but hated the lens choices. For video, I wanted a nice fixed aperture lens as I hate having the exposure change if I zoom in a little bit, which I do filming kids riding scooters. So I bought the LA-EA2 adapter to use with the Alpha lenses (bought the Sony 16-50 F/2.8) and really was blown away by phase detect autofocus and how fast the focus was.
Bought the Nex-7 after the prices calmed down a bit. I was unimpressed by the low light performance due to the pixel density of 24MP; it just wasn't as good in low light as the 5n and at least with the 5n the video was mostly usable @ ISO3200. Not so with the NEX-7. Also with the 7 I kept hitting the movie record button; it's in a very silly place right where your thumb is. Like Ken says, the OVF on the 7 was fantastic.

However, the NEX-7 will overheat in video mode after a few minutes just like the NEX-5n. It's so random and frustrating; but I have witnesses it shut off after 3-4 minutes and last the full 29:50. Bought genuine Sony HG DUO memory and still no change. I took the 5n to Florida for a family vacation in March and in the 93 degree weather the 5n would shut down in 2 minutes every time without an overheat indicator.

Also, with the Alpha lenses and the LA-EA2 adapter the camera became bulky, which defeated the "stealth-mode" raison d'etre of the 5n/7.
Lastly, the smaller NEX bodies do not have in camera stabilization.

So here's where I was. Liked the Alpha lenses, liked the video detail, hated the overheating and the lack of stabilization. Looked at the Sony Alpha cameras and the SLT-A57 came out. Reasonable price tag ($699 body), does the AVCHD ver 2.0 1080p60/1080p24 video, in-body stabilization, takes great pics and works with all Minolta/Alpha mount lenses.

I have no looked back and very glad to be rid of the NEX-7 and 5n. I recorded 2 hours in 30 minute chunks with the A57 and don't have overheating problems.

Shot this a couple of days ago with the A57; the video scene does change at around the 1:00 mark so it's not just a static boring shot.

http://vimeo.com/42047647
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post #41 of 226
5/15/12 at 10:27am
Also, the GH2's video is more detailed than the Sony's. I did some comparisons before I sold the GH2. It just flat out resolves more. But, no stabilization and I always struggled with pleasing colors and white balance (and awful greens) with the Panny.
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post #42 of 226
5/15/12 at 10:37am
Also you can take some pretty darn good stills with the Sony SLT-A57:

These are all raw straight out of the camera jpgs:







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post #43 of 226
5/15/12 at 11:02am
Last thing I will say on the topic for now. The Sony Alpha SLT-A57 is like a NEX-5n in a DSLR body with a couple more features / hard buttons that has in-body stabilization and doesn't overheat. Also has the wide range of native Alpha mount lenses including the fantastic 35mm F/1.8 that's about $175.

Will be sticking with this one for quite some time.
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post #44 of 226
5/15/12 at 12:41pm
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Originally Posted by Shield View Post

I have owned the HF-G10, multiple GH2's, the Sony 5n, the Nex-7 and have "graduated" to the Sony Alpha SLT-A57.

I loved the 5n, but hated the lens choices. For video, I wanted a nice fixed aperture lens as I hate having the exposure change if I zoom in a little bit, which I do filming kids riding scooters. So I bought the LA-EA2 adapter to use with the Alpha lenses (bought the Sony 16-50 F/2.8) and really was blown away by phase detect autofocus and how fast the focus was.
Bought the Nex-7 after the prices calmed down a bit. I was unimpressed by the low light performance due to the pixel density of 24MP; it just wasn't as good in low light as the 5n and at least with the 5n the video was mostly usable @ ISO3200. Not so with the NEX-7. Also with the 7 I kept hitting the movie record button; it's in a very silly place right where your thumb is. Like Ken says, the OVF on the 7 was fantastic.

However, the NEX-7 will overheat in video mode after a few minutes just like the NEX-5n. It's so random and frustrating; but I have witnesses it shut off after 3-4 minutes and last the full 29:50. Bought genuine Sony HG DUO memory and still no change. I took the 5n to Florida for a family vacation in March and in the 93 degree weather the 5n would shut down in 2 minutes every time without an overheat indicator.

Also, with the Alpha lenses and the LA-EA2 adapter the camera became bulky, which defeated the "stealth-mode" raison d'etre of the 5n/7.
Lastly, the smaller NEX bodies do not have in camera stabilization.

So here's where I was. Liked the Alpha lenses, liked the video detail, hated the overheating and the lack of stabilization. Looked at the Sony Alpha cameras and the SLT-A57 came out. Reasonable price tag ($699 body), does the AVCHD ver 2.0 1080p60/1080p24 video, in-body stabilization, takes great pics and works with all Minolta/Alpha mount lenses.

I have no looked back and very glad to be rid of the NEX-7 and 5n. I recorded 2 hours in 30 minute chunks with the A57 and don't have overheating problems.

Shot this a couple of days ago with the A57; the video scene does change at around the 1:00 mark so it's not just a static boring shot.

http://vimeo.com/42047647

How is the low light of the A57 compared to the 5N?
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post #45 of 226
5/15/12 at 1:02pm
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How is the low light of the A57 compared to the 5N?

Same.
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post #46 of 226
5/15/12 at 1:18pm
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Also, the GH2's video is more detailed than the Sony's. I did some comparisons before I sold the GH2. It just flat out resolves more. But, no stabilization and I always struggled with pleasing colors and white balance (and awful greens) with the Panny.

No way, no how have I found the GH2 to have more detail. I still have the GH2 and will be selling it. But the NEX7 clearly outclasses the GH2's video IMO. From color to detail to contrast. In fact, I've yet to have a camera/camcorder (including the XA10) that resolved more detail. I just couldn't disagree with you more. Putting the GH2 & NEX7 video on my 60" Sharp Elite screen is like day & night. The overall PQ is just simply better IMO.

Also, the GH2 is not a full 1080 60p. For me that's a serious limitation as I want the full frame rate for smooth, buttery motion. I hate 24p, but that's me. So when comparing the 720p output of the GH2, there's just no comparison. I showed the output to a buddy of mine that also had both the GH2 (although he sold it awhile back) and currently the XA10, and he too was blown away.

I do agree the movie button is too easily hit, but I'm getting used to that. I'm sure the low light will be better than my already excellent XA10 with a fast prime or pancake lens. I also agree that I'd prefer in-camera stabilization, but the lens does handle it pretty well.

In terms of overheating, I believe it was DP Review that saw no issues with the 7 but did with the 5. I tend not to shoot clips of any significant length, so I can't say from experience one way or the other.

For my use I wouldn't consider the A57 since I don't want a large, relatively heavy camera. The NEX7 just fits my needs far better.

I think the "Camera of the Year' award was very very justifiable!
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post #47 of 226
5/15/12 at 1:29pm
Ken - Did you do what I did? Film a static scene with the GH2 and NEX-7 at the same time with roughly the same equivalent focal lengths? I rigged both on a tripod and was able to slowly pan with both cameras. Used a 50mm F/1.8 on the Sony (75mm FF focal length) and a 45mm F/1.8 on the GH2 (90mm FF). The GH2, while I agree with you on the colors, absolutely showed massively more detail in the trees, branches, grass, etc. It wasn't even close. My wife said "Well I see more detail on the left (GH2) but the video on the right looks better color-wise (NEX-7). I will also agree the GH2 and Panny m 4/3rds in general blow out highlights and the Sony doesn't, it still has far, far more detail and resolution.
I set them both to 1080p24.

I wish it didn't as I have all Sony gear now, but them's the facts. Will upload the video to Vimeo to show you if I can find it.

GH2 = sharper, worse colors, blows highlights and some mud in certain shots. GH2 hacked gets rid of the latter.
NEX-7 = wish it didn't overheat so badly, fun little camera that takes great pics and beautifully colored video.

Have you filmed longer than 5 minutes outdoors with the NEX? How can you stand not to have IS in a camera body? You must be using the kit lens I assume.

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No way, no how have I found the GH2 to have more detail. I still have the GH2 and will be selling it. But the NEX7 clearly outclasses the GH2's video IMO. From color to detail to contrast. In fact, I've yet to have a camera/camcorder (including the XA10) that resolved more detail. I just couldn't disagree with you more. Putting the GH2 & NEX7 video on my 60" Sharp Elite screen is like day & night. The overall PQ is just simply better IMO.

Also, the GH2 is not a full 1080 60p. For me that's a serious limitation as I want the full frame rate for smooth, buttery motion. I hate 24p, but that's me. So when comparing the 720p output of the GH2, there's just no comparison. I showed the output to a buddy of mine that also had both the GH2 (although he sold it awhile back) and currently the XA10, and he too was blown away.

I do agree the movie button is too easily hit, but I'm getting used to that. I'm sure the low light will be better than my already excellent XA10 with a fast prime or pancake lens. I also agree that I'd prefer in-camera stabilization, but the lens does handle it pretty well.

For my use I wouldn't consider the A57 since I don't want a large, relatively heavy camera. The NEX7 just fits my needs far better.
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post #48 of 226
5/15/12 at 1:30pm
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I think the "Camera of the Year' award was very very justifiable!

The camera of the year award is widely regarded as a joke for 2011 since Sony had barely shipped any units by 12/2011. You do realize this, right? You ever visit camera forums?

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post #49 of 226
5/15/12 at 1:44pm
Ken, read this thread about NEX-7 overheating.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...0715147&page=1

I wish it didn't - it was a great camera and I had a blast with it.
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post #50 of 226
5/15/12 at 1:53pm
Some comments from that NEX-7 thread:

Gary H: "I returned the first NEX-7 and just tried the second with kit lens, indoors... eight minutes and overheats. "

Tony Hall "Give up on using these cameras as camcorders. Get what you can, but consider every minute that you capture LUCK.

I had high hopes for shooting video with my 5N, but it randomly overheats and can't be trusted for anything serious. "

Rishi O' - "It's depressing. I get about 13 minutes the first time I run it and no more than 4 minutes after that, if I'm lucky. I was recording an interview for a short I was working on and had to keep stop and start the record every 3 minutes."


If Sony releases a NEX-7 "N" model that addresses this issue I will look at picking one up for the times I don't need fast glass or stabilization, like shooting outdoors on a monopod/tripod.
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post #51 of 226
5/15/12 at 1:58pm
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Ken - Did you do what I did? Film a static scene with the GH2 and NEX-7 at the same time with roughly the same equivalent focal lengths? I rigged both on a tripod and was able to slowly pan with both cameras. Used a 50mm F/1.8 on the Sony (75mm FF focal length) and a 45mm F/1.8 on the GH2 (90mm FF). The GH2, while I agree with you on the colors, absolutely showed massively more detail in the trees, branches, grass, etc. It wasn't even close. My wife said "Well I see more detail on the left (GH2) but the video on the right looks better color-wise (NEX-7). I will also agree the GH2 and Panny m 4/3rds in general blow out highlights and the Sony doesn't, it still has far, far more detail and resolution.
I set them both to 1080p24.

I wish it didn't as I have all Sony gear now, but them's the facts. Will upload the video to Vimeo to show you if I can find it.

GH2 = sharper, worse colors, blows highlights and some mud in certain shots. GH2 hacked gets rid of the latter.
NEX-7 = wish it didn't overheat so badly, fun little camera that takes great pics and beautifully colored video.

Have you filmed longer than 5 minutes outdoors with the NEX? How can you stand not to have IS in a camera body? You must be using the kit lens I assume.

I will suggest with almost 100% certainty that it was your lens pure and simple that was skewing your results. Your findings just don't mesh with reviews, the resolution capabilities of 720p vs 1080p or my testing. It just makes no sense from a technical standpoint. For a camera set to 720p to show more detail than one similarly equipped at 1080p, makes no technical sense whatsoever. There is sooo much more resolution at 1080p as long as you have a lens that's capable of resolving it.

To answer your question, yes, I did just that. I compared both cameras using both kit lens, set at equivalent focal lengths . There is no way that 1080p with a decent lens can show less detail than 720p with an equally decent lens.

Much has been said about the tremendous capability of the sensor in the NEX 7 and I agree. I'll say this, I was absolutely stunned by the quality of the kit lens. I say this because I had the NEX5 (not the NEX 5N) with the same kit lens. My results are day & night and I can only assume that either my original kit lens sample on the 5 (same Sony lens) was either a poor sample or the new one I have now is an excellent sample.

But either way, there absolutely was no comparison. Remember too, I did the same test with the XA10 which undoubtedly has more resolution than the GH2 @720p with the XA10's 1080p. The NEX7 still out-rez'd the XA10. For me that was again a shocker, I just wasn't expecting it.

This is just a superb camera.
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post #52 of 226
5/15/12 at 1:59pm
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The camera of the year award is widely regarded as a joke for 2011 since Sony had barely shipped any units by 12/2011. You do realize this, right? You ever visit camera forums?


It makes no difference since they were assessing the quality of the camera, not the shipments. If the camera was technically better than the competition, who cares how many units they got out? If the award was "Shipments of the year" that would be a different story.
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post #53 of 226
5/15/12 at 2:01pm
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Ken, read this thread about NEX-7 overheating.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...0715147&page=1

I wish it didn't - it was a great camera and I had a blast with it.

Shield, as I said I haven't run long clips and usually don't. But I'll test it over the next week or so. My longest clip thus far was 2 1/2 minutes with no issues. As I said I usually don't shoot clips of such great length (concerts, plays etc.) that I'm anticipating an issue.

But I'll try shooting a 10-15 minute clip and see what happens. As I said, I believe it was DP Review that shot a clip of 30 minutes or longer with no issues.
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post #54 of 226
5/15/12 at 2:02pm
Ken it makes perfect sense. It's this simple - the Sony applies lots of noise reduction in the "cooked" files to reduce noise; at the cost of extra detail. It's really just that simple. Compare some high ISO images in raw format vs. the "cooked" jpg from your NEX-7. It's the same deal with my SLT Sony body.

Based on your logic, ANY 1080p looks better than 720p? More to it than that. I can show you high end 720p that wipes the floor with our consumer cameras.
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5/15/12 at 2:02pm
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Some comments from that NEX-7 thread:

Gary H: "I returned the first NEX-7 and just tried the second with kit lens, indoors... eight minutes and overheats. "

Tony Hall "Give up on using these cameras as camcorders. Get what you can, but consider every minute that you capture LUCK.

I had high hopes for shooting video with my 5N, but it randomly overheats and can't be trusted for anything serious. "

Rishi O' - "It's depressing. I get about 13 minutes the first time I run it and no more than 4 minutes after that, if I'm lucky. I was recording an interview for a short I was working on and had to keep stop and start the record every 3 minutes."


If Sony releases a NEX-7 "N" model that addresses this issue I will look at picking one up for the times I don't need fast glass or stabilization, like shooting outdoors on a monopod/tripod.

Don't know about the 5N, but the review indicated no heating issues with the 7.

But again for me, this camera is for fun shooting, vacations etc. I don't shoot clips longer than about 1 minute, so a non-issue for me. If I was doing professional work with it and doing interviews etc. I'd really test it out thoroughly for this issue.
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post #56 of 226
5/15/12 at 2:04pm
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Shield, as I said I haven't run long clips and usually don't. But I'll test it over the next week or so. My longest clip thus far was 2 1/2 minutes with no issues. As I said I usually don't shoot clips of such great length (concerts, plays etc.) that I'm anticipating an issue.

But I'll try shooting a 10-15 minute clip and see what happens. As I said, I believe it was DP Review that shot a clip of 30 minutes or longer with no issues.

Ken - I almost cried when mine started overheating all the time I liked the camera so much. I just got to the point I couldn't trust it. Filmed the kids riding on their scooters on the driveway and let the camera sit on a tripod. Thought I had 29 minutes. Nope, it had shut off at some point around the 8 minute mark, and this was a chilly Ohio day at 65 degrees outside.
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post #57 of 226
5/15/12 at 2:07pm
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Don't know about the 5N, but the review indicated no heating issues with the 7.

Unfortunately the reviewer was wrong, and apparently he had set the camera on a desk and let it record - I found if the lens was actually autofocusing or the camera was moving it overheated much quicker.

That's the most puzzling thing - there's no rhyme or reason to it. Don't be like me and buy expensive Sony Pro DUO HG memory cards, or get the external battery pack. It doesn't help.

My son has a school play this Thursday that's like 20 minutes long - I'm not sure where he comes in or not, nor would I want to sit and monitor the camera the entire time. I could not record this with the 7.

Gotta go get the kids. Enjoy your test and maybe you will get lucky and not experience these problems. Watch for the "temp indicator" to start flashing and come on solid.
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5/15/12 at 2:29pm
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Unfortunately the reviewer was wrong, and apparently he had set the camera on a desk and let it record - I found if the lens was actually autofocusing or the camera was moving it overheated much quicker.

That's the most puzzling thing - there's no rhyme or reason to it. Don't be like me and buy expensive Sony Pro DUO HG memory cards, or get the external battery pack. It doesn't help.

My son has a school play this Thursday that's like 20 minutes long - I'm not sure where he comes in or not, nor would I want to sit and monitor the camera the entire time. I could not record this with the 7.

Gotta go get the kids. Enjoy your test and maybe you will get lucky and not experience these problems. Watch for the "temp indicator" to start flashing and come on solid.

Thanks, nice pics...
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5/15/12 at 2:29pm
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Originally Posted by Shield View Post

Ken it makes perfect sense. It's this simple - the Sony applies lots of noise reduction in the "cooked" files to reduce noise; at the cost of extra detail. It's really just that simple. Compare some high ISO images in raw format vs. the "cooked" jpg from your NEX-7. It's the same deal with my SLT Sony body.

Based on your logic, ANY 1080p looks better than 720p? More to it than that. I can show you high end 720p that wipes the floor with our consumer cameras.

We're talking video here, not jpeg smoothing. Noise is not an issue when shooting outdoor video. My testing was done outdoors to test resolution, not low light capabilities. Besides, the low light is so much a function of the lens, I'd have to have identical apertures on both cameras. That was not what we were both talking about. We were talking about resolution.

In that environment it was no contest. I agree with what you're saying about a super-high end 720p camera vs a 1080p internet type camera, but really Shield, here we're talking about comparable cameras, the GH2 and the NEX7. In that setting there is just no way 720p will hold up to a quality camera like the NEX7. It just won't. The NEX is newer technology, a new sensor and a great overall system (though with limited lenses). As I said, all the praise this camera has gotten (not just the "Camera of the Year" award) but just about every single review, is IMO well-deserved.
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5/15/12 at 2:33pm
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Ken - I almost cried when mine started overheating all the time I liked the camera so much. I just got to the point I couldn't trust it. Filmed the kids riding on their scooters on the driveway and let the camera sit on a tripod. Thought I had 29 minutes. Nope, it had shut off at some point around the 8 minute mark, and this was a chilly Ohio day at 65 degrees outside.

For me an 8 minute clip is an extraordinarily long clip. In non-professional work (even professional for that matter) I almost never go 8 minutes. I'd put my audience (and myself) to sleep! Yes you can edit, but man an 8 minute video clip is a very long clip. I can see those videoing concerts, kids plays etc., yes there may be an issue. But I think for people that shoot vacation stuff, zoo type material etc., 8 minutes would be a rare exception.

But I should know more in the next week or so. I was just going through a bunch of professional reviews and saw only one review that experienced it (or at least mentioned it).

I'm so happy with this camera and its capabilities (both video & stills), there's no way I'll give it up...it's just too good.
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