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post #1201 of 7876
7/26/12 at 6:51pm
David,

For point 3, the setting seems to be Audio Display under Video settings section.

Audio Display Default settings are underlined.
Sets how long each menu is displayed when the input source is “NETWORK”, “iPod/USB”, or
“HD Radio”.

Audio Always : Show display continuously.
30s : Show display for 30 seconds after operation.
10s : Show display for 10 seconds after operation.
Off : Turn display off.
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post #1202 of 7876
7/26/12 at 8:50pm
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Originally Posted by ppvsp View Post

Thanks a lot David for your inputs. I will try your solutions and let u know the results.
Also i remember seeing sleep mode but not sure why this would kick off while playing content through AVR. If AVR is idle then i can imagine this to kick in.
For point 1, i presume you also have the issue. I didnt try flicking it to network, but this behaviour of switching off the HDMI signal is weird. Did you try talking to Denon on this?

Yes, I do get problem 1. I haven't talked to Denon, the AVR is just 2 weeks old and I haven't had a lot of time yet to invest in it apart from getting it set up as well as I can so that I can use it! The niceties can follow smile.gif
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post #1203 of 7876
7/26/12 at 8:51pm
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Originally Posted by ppvsp View Post

David,
For point 3, the setting seems to be Audio Display under Video settings section.
Audio Display Default settings are underlined.
Sets how long each menu is displayed when the input source is “NETWORK”, “iPod/USB”, or
“HD Radio”.
Audio Always : Show display continuously.
30s : Show display for 30 seconds after operation.
10s : Show display for 10 seconds after operation.
Off : Turn display off.

That's the one - I think it is a good setting to have. smile.gif
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post #1204 of 7876
7/27/12 at 2:43am
Wow, lotta posts to read through! Just got my 1913 and hooked up AirPlay. It works fine, but I have a few questions. While playing Itunes, the remote doesnt work, with the exception of 'exit' button. The next track arrow buttons dont work. I can however control it with my iPhone. Can I stream video from PC? Also, when I swith network sources, like say from Itunes to Pandora, Im unable to go back to iTunes via the 1913. I have to go to my PC and push play in order for the 1913 to start streaming again.
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post #1205 of 7876
7/27/12 at 3:09am
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Originally Posted by cwm9 View Post

These buttons had me confused at first too. I detest effects added to sound, and I thought these buttons were only for that, but it turns out that's not the case.
Pressing Pure bypasses everything and go straight to the speakers. You will get no Audyssey.
Why would you want this? Because Audyssey adds quite a bit of lag to the signal. It has to in order to correct for speaker distance and group delay between speaker cones. So, if you're, say, playing Rock Band on the X-Box, this will add audio lag that you don't want. Press pure, and presto, no Audyssey, no lag.
The other buttons are badly named IMHO. They are really presets for processing modes you would like to use for the digital content being fed to the unit.
Say you are feeding a Blu-Ray signal with DTS audio. Press and hold the green Movie button. Up pops a menu on the screen where you can select which decoding method you wish to use. Want stereo? It's at the top. Standard DTS decoding? It's there. Neo upmix? There too. Maybe you like Neo for movies. Fine. Select Neo. From now on, when you press the Movie button, you'll get Neo.
The options are a little different for each button, but not much. There seems to be a difference between Neo for movies and Neo for music. I have no idea what the difference is. There's also a Dolby game mode on the game button. Again, no clue what that means.
For some reason you can't pick a decoding mode with Pure. You'd think that just bypassing Audyssey wouldn't mean you'd have to stick to a particular decoding method, but it seems that Pure just decodes as "best available" given the digital stream.
Now you pop in an audio DVD. It also feeds DTS. You press and hold music. This time you don't want Neo. You want the pure as-mixed multi-channel audio. Fine. Select DTS. Now you can switch between Neo for movies and DTS for music by pressing the Movie/Music buttons respectively.
Personally I would have preferred dedicated decoding mode buttons on the remote, but whatever. The whole things seems overly complicated, and I don't get why there are different options for each button given the exact same input signal. Regardless, I don't care about all the FX options that are on the menu, so it's either Pure or DTS or Dolby for me... Oh, and Audyssey is amazing. My completely mismatched speakers sound like they are factory paired.

Chiem - Thanks for your detailed explanation!

So, if I understand you correctly, Audyssey is still used except when I use the 'Pure' button.
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post #1206 of 7876
7/27/12 at 3:30am
When using Pandora, or any other music source, in the stereo mode, I only get sound out of my front mains. Why doesnt the 1913 treat the front mains as satellites and send the lower frequencies to the sub? Do I have to configure it to do so? I can swith to movie mode, but thats just PLII. I just want front mains and sub. Thanx.
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post #1207 of 7876
7/27/12 at 3:37am
^^
After running Audyssey (AUTO SETUP), you should reset the FL/FR speakers to SMALL w/80hz crossovers. Doing so will allow the lower frequencies < 80hz to be sent to the sub regardless of the surround mode being used.
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post #1208 of 7876
7/27/12 at 5:36am
"l. Watch TV while listening to a different audio source: You have a couple of different options here. One option is to connect the cable/sat box HDMI directly to the TV w/optical from the cable/sat box to the AVR. That way you can use the HDMI to the TV for video and then select whatever audio source you want on the AVR. Another option is to use the "Video Select" feature on the AVR noting that you cannot select an HDMI video source. Rather you must connect the cable/sat box to the AVR with a component video/optical cable and then while the audio source is selected (eg. TUNER), change the "Video Select" setting to the component video source."

I got the above from the FAQ here (great resource for me while I'm setting up my new 2113!).

I want to do this rarely. We sometimes watch our Patriots on TV and like to listen to the radio broadcast rather than the network TV announcers.

1) If I choose option one as suggested in the FAQ, what do I loose? Is there a trade-off? I really don't want to re-wire my setup just for a few football games.

2) Does the 2113 have another option for this?
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post #1209 of 7876
7/27/12 at 6:17am
^^
1. With option #1 you lose the GUI display for the cat/sat box source, so if important, in addition to HDMI cable from box to the AVR, also connect a component video cable from the box to the AVR and select that source via Video Select as indicated in the FAQ.
2. All Denon models react the same way in this regard.
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post #1210 of 7876
7/27/12 at 6:27am
^^
Thanks - it all makes sense to me now. Unfortunately my Wii is using the component in right now. If not for the Wii, I like the component idea just for those football games because I like the GUI to be available too.
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post #1211 of 7876
7/27/12 at 6:40am
You can free up the component via Wii by using a Wii2HDMI ---> http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-1080P-Output-Upscaling-Converter/dp/B0050RKH2Y
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post #1212 of 7876
7/27/12 at 7:28am
^^
Thank you again!
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post #1213 of 7876
7/27/12 at 8:45am
I've had my 3313CI for a little over 3 weeks now and I've run into a little bit of a problem and I wanted your input on whether you think I should exchange the receiver or keep it and risk a possible warranty issue. Every once in a while when I turn the receiver on, I don't get any sound from any speakers, it doesn't matter which input I'm using, there is no sound from any device. This has happened 4-5 times in the last 2 weeks or so. The first two times this happened turning the receiver off then on again didn't make any difference, however, if I unplugged the receiver, waited a few seconds and plugged it in again, then turned it on, the sound was fine. The next time it happened, just turning the receiver off and on again resolved the problem. It happened again last weekend and I this time I was able to get sound back by just turning the receiver off and on, but I decided to do a microprocessor reset anyway and I thought the problem was resolved until today. This morning, I turned the receiver on again, and there was no sound again, switching inputs didn't make any difference, however turning the receiver off and on again resolved the issue. I have about 1 week left to exchange the receiver, and I'd like to see if anyone else has had this issue and whether you guys think I should exchange the receiver or just deal with it and if it becomes a real issue have it covered by warranty.

BTW, when I did the microprocessor reset, I saved the config settings through the Web Control feature, but when I tried to load the saved file after the microprocessor reset, I kept getting an error message about the file not matching, or something like that, I can't remember the exact wording on the error message though. Has anyone ever used the load feature of the Web Control site?

In case it matters, this is what I have connected to my receiver:
2-Dish 722k HD-DVRs via HDMI
Panasonic Bluray via HDMI
Computer via HDMI
Panasonic Plasma HDTV
URC MX-980 Remote Control

Thanks for your thoughts,
Dan
Edited by dwinnie - 7/27/12 at 8:51am
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post #1214 of 7876
7/27/12 at 9:23am
^^
Suggest you review the following tips ....

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_L11

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_E10
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post #1215 of 7876
7/27/12 at 10:17am
My Denon 1913 randomly shut itself off and restarted today while watching tv. Would any one know why it did this.
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post #1216 of 7876
7/27/12 at 10:22am
^^
If it shut down and you had to power it back on ....

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_B11

Otherwise, if it powered back on, on it's own ... could have been a momentary loss of power.
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post #1217 of 7876
7/27/12 at 11:44am
Nothing else shut down though so the whole loss of power thing would be odd considering everything is connected to the samposture protector and it powered on by itself.
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post #1218 of 7876
7/27/12 at 11:53am
Currently, I only have left, right, and center speakers. No subwoofer. I just ran the Audyssey Setup on my new 1913 and it set my fronts to Large and my center to Small.Do I need to change any of these settings?
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post #1219 of 7876
7/27/12 at 11:58am
Change everything to small. But it should recognize your sub.
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post #1220 of 7876
7/27/12 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by Gmonski View Post

Currently, I only have left, right, and center speakers. No subwoofer. I just ran the Audyssey Setup on my new 1913 and it set my fronts to Large and my center to Small.Do I need to change any of these settings?

There is no need to change your settings. Since you do not have a subwoofer, your fronts should be set to large.
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post #1221 of 7876
7/27/12 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by Semp1 View Post

Nothing else shut down though so the whole loss of power thing would be odd considering everything is connected to the samposture protector and it powered on by itself.

Could be an issue with the surge protector. I wouldn't worry about it unless it happens again.
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post #1222 of 7876
7/27/12 at 12:11pm
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Originally Posted by Gmonski View Post

Currently, I only have left, right, and center speakers. No subwoofer. I just ran the Audyssey Setup on my new 1913 and it set my fronts to Large and my center to Small.Do I need to change any of these settings?

When there is no sub used, there's nothing for the front main speakers to cross over to, therefore they will default to LARGE. The center speaker can be left as SMALL so it's lower frequencies get crossed over to the FL/FR speakers.
Edited by jdsmoothie - 7/27/12 at 12:22pm
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post #1223 of 7876
7/27/12 at 12:17pm
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
Suggest you review the following tips ....
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_L11
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_E10

Thanks JD,

All of the components have the latest firmware updates installed. I've added a 3 second delay to my remote between turning on the TV and turning on the AVR, unfortunately I don't think I can do that with the DVRs though because they never really shut off. I'll see what happens with the delay between the TV and the AVR.

You're absolutely right about the config file being all 0s. In order to check and make sure that was the only issue, I saved a new file, checked it with a Hex Editor, and loaded the saved file and it worked just fine as advertised

I appreciate the quick reply.
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post #1224 of 7876
7/27/12 at 2:55pm
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

When there is no sub used, there's nothing for the front main speakers to cross over to, therefore they will default to LARGE. The center speaker can be left as SMALL so it's lower frequencies get crossed over to the FL/FR speakers.

Would that be for the best? The fronts are RC-10s and the center is a RC-LCR.
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post #1225 of 7876
7/27/12 at 3:06pm
David,

Did you try switching off the "Auto Standby" under GENERAL settings to see if the AVR has the issue mentioned in point 1? I switched this off yesterday and i see that there is no HDMI switch off happening.

can you also confirm if this works for you?
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post #1226 of 7876
7/27/12 at 3:09pm
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Originally Posted by Gmonski View Post

Would that be for the best? The fronts are RC-10s and the center is a RC-LCR.

The best? You only have 2 choices: FL/FR - LARGE C - SMALL or FL/FR - LARGE C - LARGE. The Center speaker is actually better quality than the FL/FR speakers so you could also try setting it to LARGE as well. Set it to whichever sounds best to you.
Edited by jdsmoothie - 7/27/12 at 3:17pm
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post #1227 of 7876
7/27/12 at 3:14pm
David

Sorry the above solution is for Point 2. Did you ever encounter the issue i have mentioned in Point 2?
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post #1228 of 7876
7/27/12 at 4:38pm
Hey guys, and gal's.

I've had the AVR-1913 for a week now. So far I love it better than my Harman Kardon AVR-1600. But I had a few questions. I completed the speaker calibration and noticed that my bass coming out of the subwoofer isn't the same as the HK AVR-1600. My front speakers are a pair of Sony SS-F6000 Floorstanding 4-Way Speakers. Surrounds are Polk Audio Monitor30, and the center is a standard Sony center channel speaker. The speaker menu in the receiver is detecting the front sony speakers as large, and the rest are considered small. Is the configuration right?


Thanks in advance. smile.gif
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post #1229 of 7876
7/27/12 at 4:52pm
^^
If you also have a dedicated sub, then reset the Front speakers to SMALL with 80hz crossovers. Also note that your old receiver likely provided "bloated" bass so give the Audyssey settings a few weeks to adjust to the level of bass the mixer intended you to hear vice what you prefer.
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post #1230 of 7876
7/27/12 at 5:01pm
Cool Thanks,

I will set the front speakers to low. I read on this thread that it's recommended to put the subwoofers low pass freq to the highest setting and adjust the subwoofer amp until the AVR-1913 detects the sub level below -12 db. I setup mine so the receiver detected it to -10.5 db. Audyssey quality is amazing. Thanks for your help and advice. I will try the new settings tonight.

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