The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX13 Model Owner's Thread & FAQ - Page 101

Okay - answered my own question - its a "Scale" thing (OM p. 32 and 103)

I'm so behind on this thread so I don't know if you already got an answer for this problem or not. But I figure I share my experience, I have a 1913 model and initially with a dlink -655 router, I also ran into the spotty airplay connection problem. Sometimes it finds it and often times it does not. I have since purchased a new ASUS n66u router, not for the airplay issue, but to extend the coverage at my house, and this has fixed the airplay issue altogether.

My Denon Denon AVR-2113CI is not detecting my Right Surround (5.1 setup) when running the audyssey setup. I've put new speaker cable in, verified R/B connect correctly. Any suggestions?

Try swapping the SL/SR speakers and see if you get the same result.

I unplugged the SR from teh receiver, and plugged it into SL, and it worked as SL

Swap the SL speaker wire as well and if no sound, then it's an issue with the AVR. Try resetting the microprocessor (p. 148 OM).

Should I be connecting everything thru the denon and then the denon to the TV?

If they work correctly in that configuration, yes, so the AVR becomes the source switcher, although often times the cable/sat box will have HDMI handshake issues which require connecting it directly to the TV with optical to the AVR for surround audio.

So I am still getting use to the 3313, but I have noticed this thing runs warmer than expect and I not pushing it at all. I have seen the posts on the Coolerguys usb fan, anyone have any opinions or experience using one? Drawing power via usb might seem like it could generate more heat or strain on the power supply. Unfortunately using a smart strip and a 120v fan doesn't look to be a viable option as I am running everything thru a Panamax. Thanks

The majority of the heat is being generated by the video card so adding a USB fan isn't going to add to the heat.

As a precursor to purchase of 3313, I moved my 3310 and all other kit out of cramped cabinet and into this:
http://store.atacama-audio.co.uk/products/productdetail/Eris+Eco+5.0+Hi+Fi++with+FREE+ISOLATION+CONE+PACK/part_number=Eris%20Eco%205.0%20Hi%20Fi%20%20with%20FREE%20ISOLATION%20CONE%20PACK/758.2.4.3.108004.0.0.0.0?pp=12&

...as it was intermittently shutting down due to heat, even with fan. After that, no more problems with shut-down of any type.

The one thing I really miss in my new Denon 2113CI AVR is the switched outlet that my Denon 3808 AVR had. I really wish that feature had been retained in the design.

or their plasmas...

note to all new owners who owned denons before... this appears to be the new default for this option...

Thanks for the info. I used the switched outlets on the 3808 AVR to turn on some ambient lights I used behind my television whenever the receiver was used. It was very convenient. I have tried the Smartstrip brand cords for this same concept and they worked horribly - the lights would constantly flicker on and off (tried using the TV and the AVR in the powered spot to no avail). Now its just a matter of remembering to turn the lights off by reaching behind the TV to flick the switch whenever I am done - which I will occasionally fail to remember to do.

Yeah, i have open front, back, sides (open then 2" on other side) top at least 5" of clearance. I think I may have found something that might work for my setup and not using a smartstrip. Just can't decide on either the Power Supply & Pre-Set Thermal Controller or Power Supply & Programmable Thermal Controller with LED Display.
http://www.coolerguys.com/cabcool1201.html

Temps in the above dead space above was in the 90's, not too bad. I wonder if raising the unit some would promote any better cooler air intake.

I'm starting to go crazy!

May I get the 5.1 using the optical from my PC to the receiver ?
There is something I need to set on the Denon ?
I mean, there are some option like the Multichannel, PLII, Stero, Matrix, etc and I need to know what of this option I need to set in order to have a true 5.1 !

Thank a lot guys!

I don't think it's the receiver the problem, not at all !

With the ps3 and x360 I got a full 5.1 with the optical but not on my PC that's why I'm frustrated !

Anyway, you are right, this is the thread of the Denon, not the audio cards, so I'm off topic now, sorry

Anyway, just this one : what I need to set on the Denon to have a 5.1 ? The MultiChannel or the PLII ?
Edited by IcyEyes - 11/9/12 at 3:53pm

Thanks

On the subject of selecting sound modes, I have yet to figure this out. If i select the music button and "multi-channel stereo" mode on the info display viewer, at the exact same time i see the receiver display go right to "Rock Arena", and the it continues to be one off the rest of the modes, I can never get it to play just "multichannel" I have tried to unplugged the unit, no fix. Is a processor reset the next step? I do want to mention BATPIG'S "DENON-TO-ENGLISH DICTIONARY" SETUP GUIDE AND FAQ and "Dynamic EQ Reference Level Offset". I literally thought that Audyssey had push my "sound bubble" about 3' closer to the tv than I wanted, changing the reference level tamed the rear half of things for sure.

Hey, looking for a little advice. I've read the first post and looked at all the specs over and over but I'm having a hard time making my final decision. Here is my setup:

Room 1 (Home Theater)
1. PS3
2. WD TV Live
3. Cable
4. (used to have a AVR-3808CI but it just died, all HDMI inputs/outputs stopped working)
5. 6.1 speaker setup using: Boston Acoustics 2x VR-M60(L/R) , VR-MC(C), 2x VR-MX(SL/SR), VR-M/EX(B), SVS PB12-NSD(S)
6. Panasonic PT-AX200U (soon to be upgraded)
7. Stewart GrayHawk (2:1 53x106)

Room 2 (Bedroom)
1. Xbox 360
2. Roku 2xs
3. Cable
4. Blu-ray player (coming soon)
5. AVR 3803 (retiring)
6. 5.1 speaker setup using: HSU Research 2x HB-1 MK2(L/R) , HC-1 MK2(C), 2x HB-1 MK2(SL/SR), VTF-1 MK2(S)
7. Sony KDS-60A3000

So I am looking at the 2313ci or 3313ci for the theater room and the 2113ci for the bedroom, which I think is the right choice, I hope! But for the theater I'm torn between the the 2313ci or 3313ci. I'm leaning towards the 3313ci but no need to waste money, although it was convenient to have the nice display and d-pad on the 3808 that I'd have to give up with the 2313ci.

Looking for any advice or suggestions. Thanks!
Edited by AstroCat - 11/11/12 at 1:33pm

There was a short in the switch. I took it in, under warranty, and they fixed the short. Thanks. Not sure how that happened though.

I've never changed or messed with any of these settings. I usually just let the receiver decide on its own when I watch tv or play xbox. Do most people change to Multich Stereo or PLII when watching tv?

^^^

if the source is 2 channel from the tv, i generally use dplii or just listen to it in 2 channel...

imo... mch stereo is useful for parties, and that's the extent of it... it makes little to no sense to send the "same" signal when you have an option available to send a "more correct" signal...

Ok. Here is an update. The PS3 also has the same problem with the screen either going black or showing fuzz. And the audio also goes out when this happens.

I tried the optical switch with the cable box to the Denon and the problem is still there. But, the incidence has decreased.

What do you think my problem is?

Edit. Sometimes when the screen goes out the audio goes out and sometimes only the picture goes out and the audio is not affected.
Edited by jedimastergrant - 11/10/12 at 8:26am

Thank you Batpig. I checked the connection and it seemed secure but I reinserted anyway. All of the cables are new. That is the first thing I did. Is it possible the actual hdmi port on the TV is to blame? I also had this problem with my last Denon AVR but it was not nearly this bad.

btw I love your guide and it has already helped me a great deal in dealing with the Denon language barrier.

I have a Denon 1713. After spending a couple months with it I have some questions. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! Questions are in italics ...

First topic - Dynamic volume levels compensation.

Dynamic Comp. vs Dynamic Volume (in Audyssey menu). These seem to do the same thing, and Dynamic Comp is the more confusing, the manual says:
- Dynamic Comp is turned on and off by the Loudness Mngmt setting.
- The Loudness Mngmt setting says it only applies to Dolby TrueHD.
- In Dynamic Comp it says the "Auto" setting only applies to Dolby TrueHD.

Questions ...
- Does Dynamic Comp only apply to Dolby TrueHD, or, do the "Low / Medium / High" settings apply to all audio sources while the "Auto" setting only applies to Dolby TrueHD?
- Is it a bad idea to have both Dynamic Comp and Dynamic Volume (Audyssey menu) turned on? If I'm using Audyssey should I just use Dynamic Volume and turn off Dynamic Comp/Loudness Mngmt?


Second topic - Audio Delay:

Setting only allows you to delay audio (i.e. assumes the TV picture is lagging).
My TV picture, a Panasonic 65GT50, is ahead of the audio - how do I fix this?


Third topic - Audyssey MultEQ XT settings:

One of the features I like most about Audyssey is that it gives you the option to use either it's "optimized" EQ (the "Audyssey" setting) or an optimized-to-flat EQ ("Audyssey Flat" setting). I like the "Audyssey" setting for TV/Movies and the" Audyssey Flat" setting for music, but traversing the menus to select the setting each time is a hassle.

Is there a way to automatically have all the "Movie" sound modes use the "Audyssey" setting and all the "Music" sound modes use the "Audyssey Flat" setting? This way I could make the switch just by pushing one button on the remote.

Much thanks!