The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX13 Model Owner's Thread & FAQ - Page 12

Oh well, then I need to look at veritas line.

Which one you suggest comparable to RC-70? Veritas 6.2 or 6.3?

and what should be good price for 3312CI:)

Vanns got my order..cheaper than EE was going to cost for my location with tax and shipping:)

pm me for price..

Another feature I noticed looking at the 3313CI back panel is that in addition to an HDMI Zone 2 output, the Component monitor output is switchable between the main zone and Zone 2.

I have a zone 2 matrix question on the 3313 for a new system I am building.. In my media room, I will have two tv sets and a Projector with retractable screen, 5.1 surround. The TVs and Projector will never be on at the same time. From the specs, the 3313 seems to fit the need of connecting all three displays.

Some secondary needs are:
-Quickly switching audio from one tv to the next over the 5.1
-have both TVs displaying content while being able to listen to audio over the 5.1. The scenario is a poker game with music playing and sporting events displayed in the background.

Does the avr 3313 fit those needs or am I better of getting a different receiver and independent matrix switch?
Edited by samp81 - 6/9/12 at 2:12am

Just bought a Denon AVR-2113CI and am having some issues. When I turn the unit on it will display "UPDATE RETRY" for abut 10 seconds or so and then it disappears. The unit cylces through its normal start-up telling me that the main zone is on....etc. During this time no buttons on the remote work and receiver does not operate normally. Then after about 2-3 minutes the receiver shuts itself off and then turns back on...again displaying "UPDATE RETRY" and repeating above cycle.

So far I have done the following and it has not seemed to help:

(1) unplug unit for 10 minutes and start over
(2) Microprocessor reset (holding down TUNER PRESET CH + and TUNER PRESET CHANNEL -
(3) I have confirmed that network connection is working
(4) Disconnecting internet and attempting to start-up without it

The unit was working fine for about a 48 hours, but when I connected to the internet is when I had issues. I think that an update may have been interrupted either by the unit being powered off or CAT5 cable getting disconnected so this may be the root of the problem.

Any help out there would really be appreciated as I am so frustrated. I searched other threads and saw that on earlier model Denon's you could do either a "microprocessor reset" or a "network reset", but I cannot find any instructions on how to do a "network reset" on this model.

Thanks in advance!

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Welcome to AVS Forum.

I'm still trying to get the Network reset info from Denon which when received I'll update post #5 of this thread.
Have you tried rebooting your router? Is the AVR "wired" to the router or connected wirelessly via a bridge modem?

The Zone 2 HDMI output is a matrix switch and therefore the video/audio processing must be done by either an external AVR or the TV itself, so that likely rules out connecting it to the PJ. It could be connected to one of the TVs for separate video/audio from that TV, although if the same video will always be on both TVs (not necessarily both at once) then there's no need for the 3313CI. It's still unknown whether the 2313CI, although having dual HDMI monitor outputs will be able to pass to both outputs simultaneously. And currently using the stock 3312CI remote, you must go into the GUI to change from one HDMI output to the other (although there's a Harmony remote command that can do this IIRC). Not sure about the capability of the 3313CI remote yet.

Hmm - so to get the 3312 or the 3313 at this point is the question for me. There's a Denon "authorized" seller selling the 3312 at a fantastic price right now and only the 4K conversion feature intrigues me comparing the two.
Edited by Wryker - 6/9/12 at 9:49am

^^^

at risk of repeating myself...

the 4k "feature" is jewelry... it's not of any use....

And due to that fact and that Electronics Expo has a fantastic deal on the 3312 right now I just ordered the 3312.

^^I don't think anyone can go wrong with this deal...
http://pauls-tv.store.buy.com/p/denon-in-command-avr-3312ci-a-v-receiver/222045211.html

pitty they don't run on 240 volt for that price

^^
Only about $240US more if purchased here in the states ....

http://www.220-electronics.com/receivers/Denon_AVR3312_220_volts_Home_theater_audio_video_receiver.htm

Help with Denon 1613

Each time I click on the mute button, the receiver makes a loud clicking noice. The family likes to mute during the commercials and this new clicking sound is causing great friction in the family.

The set us is as follows: Cable Box to Reciever to the TV. I recall this issue being discussed in the forum, but can't recall where.

Please point me in the right direction. Thanks

Great tip! The click in my old Denon never bothered me, but it is still a great tip.

thanks

I think I am finally going to junp and look for a deal on a 3313. I would be upgrading from a 2809. I have also been running it with a very old PRA2400 pwr amp, B&W 640i main speakers and big newer HSU VTF 15H sub.I am only using HDMI inputs. PS3, Uverse and Sharp 3d Bluray. All connected to a 70 sharp LCD(735 model)
like the new GUI interface compared to the 2809.
Looking also for the zone setup. I believe I am good to say.
I can watch Nascar in 5.1 and then the wife can listen to her Iphone music in Zone 2(patio) and still control her own volume and songs via her iphone without disrupting my show?

I will miss the touch screen remote from the 2809.

I have never tried to pwr my mains with its own internal amp. The 2809 is my 3rd Denon and have always used the PAO2400 to pwr my fronts.

Side question: Why do they list the HDMI inputs 1 ,2,3 etc with still Bluray, Cbl/Sat, DVD...etc...... Why not just HDMI 1,2,3,4 and you assign the title in the setup menu. Sat or Bluray or PS3 etc. ????
Dennis

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AFAIK, the 3313CI should be available for purchase starting later next week. Although on prior year models, the HDMI inputs were assignable and able to renamed as you suggest, and although the "renameable" feature still exists, the 1913 and lower models lose the ability to reassign the HDMI inputs, likely because for most users it's easier to just plug the Blu Ray into the BD HDMI jack, the cable/sat box into the CBL/SAT HDMI jack, etc. Regarding the Denon remote, you may want to consider using a Harmony or perhaps the Denon REMOTE smart phone app instead.

Tried the following on a 2113:
- main zone and zone 2 powered on and playing fm source
- on iPad3 (iOS 5.1), play music and start AirPlay selecting 2113
- main zone switches to NETWORK and plays AirPlay, zone 2 remains on selected source
- selecting NETWORK for zone 2 behaves as expected: main continues playing and zone 2 also plays AirPlay
- selecting a non-network source in the main zone behaves as expected: zone 2 continues playing airplay while the main zone plays the selected (hdmi) source
- surprise: stopping/starting AirPlay in iPad keeps the main zone at the selected source while continuing play in zone 2 (didn't expect that one to happen :-)

So far so good!

Not working:
- the AirPlay volume (volume slider on the iPad) always effect the main zone - independent of the main zone source
- if neither the main or zone 2 is on the Network source, always the main zone will automatically switch to Airplay (so selecting AirPlay for zone 2 while not having NETWORK selected on zone 2 will switch the main source to AirPlay, not zone 2)

Ideally, Denon would provide separate AirPlay 'destinations' so any connected device could select to stream to either zone 1 or 2 (or both if supported by the AirPlay source).

The bigger restriction here seems to be that Denon (still) doesn't support independent network streams for each zone.
It doesn't seem possible to have Internet Radio on zone 2 while having AirPlay on the main zone (or the other way around)...

Just got off the phone with Denon Support and they gave me the Network reset and it worked like a charm. Here is how to do it:

(1) Power off unit
(2) Hold down "Zone2 Source" AND "Dimmer" at the same time
(3) While holding down above two buttons turn unit back on
(4) Wait for display to blink in 1-second intervals and then you can release buttons
(5) This resets both the microprocessor as well as the network card

^^
Thanks for posting this ... I'll update post #5 with the information.

Good question. Looks like the answer is NO...

Only when zone 2 is left untouched, AirPlay will play to zone 2 on a reconnect.
So disconnecting AirPlay and switching Zone 2 to FM and back to NETWORK will again hijack all zones when AirPlay starts playing :-(

Problem - no Dolby Digital or Dolby True HD sound modes on my Blu-Ray movies for my new Denon AVR-1613.
All I am getting is Multi-channel Stereo or 2 Channel. Tried three different Blu-rays with True HD.
Setup -
LG HD TV
Sony BluRay (S480)
The tv is connected to the concast cable by HDMI
The AVR-1613 is connected to the TV by HDMI at the monitor plug on the Reciever (rear)
The BluRay is connected to the AVR-1613 by HDMI
An opitcal cable is connected to TV and AVR
All works ok, just not getting the Digital Sound Modes for any BluRay movie.

Any suggestions...
Al...

Need to set the Sony blu to bitstream or direct mode for audio.

Sony set to Audio (HDMI) is set to Auto
Dolby Digital set to Dolby Digital
DTS set to DTS.

Its got to be my setup (HDMI connections).
Thanks...

Anything else???

Why is the Comcast HDMI into TV and not AVR? Are you sure your not sending the audio to the TV first then the optical is out to the AVR? Most TV's can't pass hd audio back out. Remove the optical send the blu into the bd input on AVR via hdmi only. Did you run the AVR setup and Select HDMI?

The S480 was likely connected to the TV previously and so was set up to play only stereo. Reset the S480 while connected to the AVR so it will know it's connected to an AVR that can play 5.1 surround audio.

Also ---> http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_50#user_L26