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post #3901 of 10468
Hello folks, need some airplay help.

I bought the denon 1613 refurbished 2 weeks back, it has been doing well until couple of days back when the receiver seemed to be unresponsive to remote and buttons on the front. I unplugged and replugged it. Everything still works but from the next day, if I play something over airplay, the receiver starts playing that song for 1 second, displays the name of the song and then there is nothing. The reciever then seems to re initiate network connection, it says connecting, initializing etc. It happens every time when I use airplay. On the first day it happened with itunes alone, then after few hours, the ipad also has the same problem. so now am without airplay ability from both laptop and ipad.

I tried the network reset mentioned in this thread, also tried modem/router reset. It doesnt seem to help. I have a Motorolla modem and router, the receiver is connected to the router through a LAN cable.

I would appreciate any help before I call Denon for assistance. Thanks in advance!!
post #3902 of 10468
novice...have 2113....setup with 5.1 surround {acoustimass 15 original} in house when I got here....and front B klipisch kg 1.5.....wanted to use surround for tv/films and klipsh only for music....found that front B's used on 2 channel cannot use subwoofer (verified by Denon support)..can anyone suggest a workaround. thanks
post #3903 of 10468
Is there a way to enable chinese/japanese/korean/cyrillic character support when listening to internet radio? The display on the front and on-screen display just show these as ? or boxes.
post #3904 of 10468
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Originally Posted by lparsons21 View Post

^^^
Here's a couple things to try
1. Move a video from iTunes on your computer to the iPad and try to Airplay that from the Video app on the iPad.
2. Ensure the app you are trying to do a video airplay with actually can do video airplay, most video apps don't.
But other than just to test, why would you want to do it the way you describe? You can just use the shared iTunes library on your ATV2 without doing the dual-streaming you are trying.

Thanks. That is the issue. It works with videos on my iPad, but doesn't work when I try to airplay videos over my shared network( ie videos stored on my home computer). I see the videos under videos on the iPad then shared. I airplay it and no video comes up on tv. Just the audio.

My other question is, how can I listen to music via ATV 2 while watching my blu ray play which is hooked up via components to DVD input. I tried changing video source to DVD but it still shows the ATV menu. Thanks for your help
post #3905 of 10468
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Originally Posted by Bateau View Post

Is there a way to enable chinese/japanese/korean/cyrillic character support when listening to internet radio? The display on the front and on-screen display just show these as ? or boxes.

If you got a unit from that area probably no problem, otherwise ...
post #3906 of 10468
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Originally Posted by moefrolic View Post

novice...have 2113....setup with 5.1 surround {acoustimass 15 original} in house when I got here....and front B klipisch kg 1.5.....wanted to use surround for tv/films and klipsh only for music....found that front B's used on 2 channel cannot use subwoofer (verified by Denon support)..can anyone suggest a workaround. thanks

Although the 2313CI and lower models removed the 2CH/Custom setting formerly on the past years lower models, with the Front speakers set to SMALL (as they should be), AFAIK, this setting should also apply to the Front B speakers which would then route the lower level bass to the sub. Have you confirmed no audio from the sub using Front B?
post #3907 of 10468
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Originally Posted by Bateau View Post

Is there a way to enable chinese/japanese/korean/cyrillic character support when listening to internet radio? The display on the front and on-screen display just show these as ? or boxes.

The US model only allows for English/Spanish/Franch as noted on p. 123 of the Owner's manual.
post #3908 of 10468
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Originally Posted by jdiesel77 View Post

Thanks. That is the issue. It works with videos on my iPad, but doesn't work when I try to airplay videos over my shared network( ie videos stored on my home computer). I see the videos under videos on the iPad then shared. I airplay it and no video comes up on tv. Just the audio.
My other question is, how can I listen to music via ATV 2 while watching my blu ray play which is hooked up via components to DVD input. I tried changing video source to DVD but it still shows the ATV menu. Thanks for your help

Just to confirm ... you're trying to Airplay the video to the ATV2 directly and then have the ATV2 pass the video via HDMI connection to the AVR, correct? As the on board Airplay will only pass audio.

With the ATV2 also connected via an optical cable and that optical cable source selected for audio, you should then be able to use the "Video Source" setting to select the component video input.
post #3909 of 10468
^^^

I think the problem with what he is trying to do is that he is asking an awful lot out of an iPad.

He's streaming from his computer to the iPad, then streaming that to the ATV2. That's a lot of horsepower and it may just be that the iPad isn't up to doing it.

But why he wants to do that is beyond me. Just use the shared iTunes library on the PC directly from the ATV2 and leave the iPad out of it and things work well. I do that all the time.
post #3910 of 10468
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Not sure if I've introduced myself here, but I'm new to AVS. Just wanted to drop some Major Props to jdsmoothie and Batpig. Your posts here as well as Batpig's site have been very educational. They lead me to feel comfortable that purchasing the Denon AVR-1713 was the right choice for me, and helped this newbie use Audyssey correctly and then make the necessary post-Audyssey tweaks. Thank you for all your posts and time to help us.

I second that!

I am not having any issues but I am waiting for the the Dec 17th Pandora update. I am ignoring the update being messaged at me now, assuming that, after Dec 17th, Pandora update will include all previous updates like the one I am currently ignoring. Is that the wrong assumption?
post #3911 of 10468
The current one is probably the Pandora one. Check it out.
post #3912 of 10468
with amp assigned to front B and speakers set to small and front speaker setup set to B there was no sound from the sub.....the only sound the sub gets when amp is assigned to front B is when
speaker setup is A+B and then of course the 5.1 is also emitting sound
post #3913 of 10468
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Although the 2313CI and lower models removed the 2CH/Custom setting formerly on the past years lower models, with the Front speakers set to SMALL (as they should be), AFAIK, this setting should also apply to the Front B speakers which would then route the lower level bass to the sub. Have you confirmed no audio from the sub using Front B?


with amp assigned to front B and speakers set to small and front speaker setup set to B there was no sound from the sub.....the only sound the sub gets when amp is assigned to front B is when
speaker setup is A+B and then of course the 5.1 is also emitting sound
post #3914 of 10468
Hi everyone, Found this site while looking for reviews of the AVR-2113, I noticed that in this thread the model is referred to as the 2113CI, The one I'm looking at doesn't have the "CI" bit at the end http://www.denon.co.uk/uk/Product/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?CatId=HomeTheatre&SubId=AVReceivers&ProductId=AVR2113 Is it just a region specific thing or are these models different ?

Also I was going to buy the DNP-720AE and PMA-520AE, Ideally though I would like an AV receiver and seeing as the 2113 has all the network functionality of the 720AE as well as being an amp would this be the better option ? At the moment I will only be using it for 2 channel stereo and mostly music but would get some surrounds and stuff and start using it for video pretty soon, Thanks.
post #3915 of 10468
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The current one is probably the Pandora one. Check it out.
According to the Denon.usa website, the 1713 update is due on the 17th
post #3916 of 10468
It may have simply been released early. Give it a try.
post #3917 of 10468
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Originally Posted by Daveyyy View Post

Hi everyone, Found this site while looking for reviews of the AVR-2113, I noticed that in this thread the model is referred to as the 2113CI, The one I'm looking at doesn't have the "CI" bit at the end http://www.denon.co.uk/uk/Product/Pages/Product-Detail.aspx?CatId=HomeTheatre&SubId=AVReceivers&ProductId=AVR2113 Is it just a region specific thing or are these models different ?
Also I was going to buy the DNP-720AE and PMA-520AE, Ideally though I would like an AV receiver and seeing as the 2113 has all the network functionality of the 720AE as well as being an amp would this be the better option ? At the moment I will only be using it for 2 channel stereo and mostly music but would get some surrounds and stuff and start using it for video pretty soon, Thanks.

Correct. The 2113 is only referred to as 2113CI in the USA and Canada. Everywhere else in the world it (as well as the other "CI" models) is referred to without the "CI". There will be some some differences between regions ... eg. in your region the 1913 has XT while in the USA/CA it does not.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_F6
Edited by jdsmoothie - 12/15/12 at 7:02pm
post #3918 of 10468
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Originally Posted by moefrolic View Post

with amp assigned to front B and speakers set to small and front speaker setup set to B there was no sound from the sub.....the only sound the sub gets when amp is assigned to front B is when
speaker setup is A+B and then of course the 5.1 is also emitting sound

What happens if you set the Front Speaker Setup for 2CH playback to A+B (p. 117) and then disconnect the A speakers? Or what about setting the Front speakers to LARGE and the sub to LFE+Main?


post #3919 of 10468
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Correct. The 2113 is only referred to as 2113CI in the USA and Canada. Everywhere else in the world it (as well as the other "CI" models) is referred to without the "CI". There will be some some differences between regions ... eg. in you region the 1913 has XT while in the USA/CA it does not.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_F6

Thanks, Do you think I would be better off going with the av receiver or the separate amp and network player ?, I've read that proper just audio amps give better sound quality, atm all I'm using is a TEAC CR-H248 cd receiver, my HD tv box is connected to my tv through hdmi but the sound only comes from the tv via rca lead to the TEAC. I'm guessing either option would be a lot better sound quality anyway.
post #3920 of 10468
Correct. You can't go wrong with either choice. Most prefer fewer components with just the AVR and there is unlikely to be much (if any) difference in audio quality, rather what makes the real difference is what EQ program is used (eg Audyssey).
post #3921 of 10468
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Correct. You can't go wrong with either choice. Most prefer fewer components with just the AVR and there is unlikely to be much (if any) difference in audio quality, rather what makes the real difference is what EQ program is used (eg Audyssey).

Awesome, Thanks for your help, Definitely gonna go with the 2113 then.
post #3922 of 10468
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Could be if it now presents on a second source. Try the microprocessor reset (p. 176) after using the Web Control feature (p. 100) to SAVE the config file to a PC. Refer to the info below ....
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_E10

Hello Again,

I performed the factory reset at least half dozen times, no luck. I still get the noise or static when lowering or raising the volume and only with certain audio formats as mention in one of my last posts. Mostly happens (or is easier to notice) when music is playing during a movie, concert, etc.

I talked to Denon and they were not much help. They told me to try the reset and if that fails send/bring in for repair. You can imagine how much I DON'T want to do this!!

Does anyone have any idea what this could be?? Do I truly have a defective unit??

Thanks in advance for your help!!
post #3923 of 10468
Hi,

first it seems Quick Select has been dropped on the 2113/2313 compared to 1912/2312. Is it tru, that the settings that used to be be set in quick set (like input, sound mode, audyssey) is now just saved for each input?

Further, It seems the seperate 2ch-speaker-setup has been dropped on the 2113/2313 compared to 1912/2312 and now I would have to go for a higher end model to get that. For me it's important to be able to quickly turn down/off the sub while watching a movie (or listening to music, though in 2ch I prefer no sub anyway). I guess I can just go into Menu/Audio and do both, adjust level or turn it on/off?

Thanks,
Phil
post #3924 of 10468
I just bought a nee 3313 to rrplace a 3803. What I want to know is can I use a wireless doggle or adapter to make this thing wireless
post #3925 of 10468
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Originally Posted by lparsons21 View Post

^^^

I think the problem with what he is trying to do is that he is asking an awful lot out of an iPad.

He's streaming from his computer to the iPad, then streaming that to the ATV2. That's a lot of horsepower and it may just be that the iPad isn't up to doing it.

But why he wants to do that is beyond me. Just use the shared iTunes library on the PC directly from the ATV2 and leave the iPad out of it and things work well. I do that all the time.

it should be ok horsepower wise, i stream from the net to my ipad and shoot it to the atv...

that being said, you are correct, there's no reason to have the ipad involved at all, other than to use it as a remote control for the atv...
post #3926 of 10468
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

What happens if you set the Front Speaker Setup for 2CH playback to A+B (p. 117) and then disconnect the A speakers? Or what about setting the Front speakers to LARGE and the sub to LFE+Main?


tried suggestion...did not work.....seems I only have Two choices 1. keep 5.1 and front b setup and listen to 2 ch front b without a sub 2. loose the cube front A's and replace with the klipisch speakers and use them for surround and 2ch with sub when listening to music. thanks for help and/or other ideas.
post #3927 of 10468
Hi guys, seeing as I got a lot of help here, I thought I'd give a progress report that might help others.

I now have my Denon 2113CI running in my not yet complete basement Mancave. I have put automotive 6x9 speakers in the ceiling, the front and center speakers are Kenwood KFC-6994PS's and the rear pair are Infinity 692.51 (I already had the Infinity pair); like virtually all automotive speakers, mine are 4Ω; they're rated around 120 RMS. The sub is a Polk PSW10.

I have the front, center and rear speakers set to SMALL and the crossover frequency set to 80 Hz, the system sounds great. I was worried that the Denon might overheat driving 4Ω speakers but it seems to run happily at level 65 without getting anything other than warm - maybe because a lot of work is being passed to the Sub? At level 65 it is LOUD and that's pretty much my limit even when the wife is out; when she's in I run at level 45, 50 max and 39 is normal listening level.

I got the system running early so's I'd have music while I finished working on the Mancave but I find that I'm not being as productive as I'd like as I keep stopping work to listen to the awesome music biggrin.gif

Have downloaded the free Denon iPhone app but it was pretty flaky - kept not being able to contact the Denon - so now I'm using the DeRemote which, although a little clunky on the UI, seems to work well enough for $4.99. Haven't tried out Airplay yet.

On reflection, if I had to do it all again, I'd go with a bigger Sub as, cranked up to level 65, the PSW10 starts to struggle a bit. However, I've talked the wife into a 70inch TV in the family room so I'll move the sub into that setup and buy bigger biggrin.gif. The ceiling speakers do really well although the Infinity's are slightly crisper than the Kenwoods - those 692's are no longer available but the 693's are comparable, you may notice that the Infinity's are about double the street cost of the Kennwoods. That's not to be overly critical of the Kenwoods, they get the job done and were great value.
post #3928 of 10468
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Originally Posted by postcorner View Post

Hello Again,
I performed the factory reset at least half dozen times, no luck. I still get the noise or static when lowering or raising the volume and only with certain audio formats as mention in one of my last posts. Mostly happens (or is easier to notice) when music is playing during a movie, concert, etc.
I talked to Denon and they were not much help. They told me to try the reset and if that fails send/bring in for repair. You can imagine how much I DON'T want to do this!!
Does anyone have any idea what this could be?? Do I truly have a defective unit??
Thanks in advance for your help!!

All signs point towards Yes unfortunately. frown.gif
post #3929 of 10468
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Originally Posted by Gandalf_Sr View Post

I was worried that the Denon might overheat driving 4Ω speakers but it seems to run happily at level 65 without getting anything other than warm - maybe because a lot of work is being passed to the Sub?

Although the sub is handling the bulk of the load, Denon AVRs can generally handle 4-ohm loads at moderate volumes without issue. It's only when you start approaching reference level (0db/80) that the unit will likely shut down in protection mode.
post #3930 of 10468
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Originally Posted by moefrolic View Post

tried suggestion...did not work.....seems I only have Two choices 1. keep 5.1 and front b setup and listen to 2 ch front b without a sub 2. loose the cube front A's and replace with the klipisch speakers and use them for surround and 2ch with sub when listening to music. thanks for help and/or other ideas.

So you're saying that when 2CH playback is set to "A" only the sub works, but when set to A+B, the sub doesn't work?
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