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post #4321 of 10469
My sub's amp blew out this past summer during an electrical storm. (Many other things in the house were impacted as well.) I'm going to replace the amp with a Dayton SPA250 or the Bash 300W.

My question seems to have an almost too obvious answer, but around various forums online the answer actually varies a bit.

My guess is that for hooking up the Dayton (should I go with that one) to my 2113ci I would just use the Subwoofer out from the 2113ci to the left (mono) input on the Dayton SPA250. Am I correct?

The Bash has an input labeled LFE, so hooking that one up seems pretty straight forward.

If there are better ways given I have the 2113ci, or you have thoughts about these two plate amps, fire away.......

Dayton SPA250

Bash 300W
post #4322 of 10469
Whats best way to connect the 2113ci. Id be using my xbox (maybe wirelessly). If i can still get updates and stream the receiver for pandora or sirius wouldnt wireless be better? Less cords through the house. Id be getting a blueray at some point (these worth putting to wireless???)
post #4323 of 10469
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Originally Posted by dizzyrapper18 View Post

Whats best way to connect the 2113ci. Id be using my xbox (maybe wirelessly). If i can still get updates and stream the receiver for pandora or sirius wouldnt wireless be better? Less cords through the house. Id be getting a blueray at some point (these worth putting to wireless???)

For the best quality (signal) for streaming purposes, wired is almost always better than wireless. If you can get just one ethernet connection nearby, then get a hub and connect your XBox, Denon, Blu-ray and anything else you have to the hub.
post #4324 of 10469
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Originally Posted by cconner View Post

If you don't need a RS-232 port and an extra 1/yr warranty the 1913 isn't much different than the 2113ci. We only sell the CI line cause we use the RS-232 port for control system integration. The 1713 receiver is not bad, but it doesn't leave you with many expansion options down the road like 7.1 or Zone 2. You will also lose power going to the 1713....

I had the same 1913 vs. 2113 decision. For MultEq XT and the other diffs. Mentioned, I felt the 2113 was the best choice. Even after the 2113 was in transit and a local chain (Frys), had a one day sale (12/26)on the 1913 that would have saved me $210, I still stuck with the 2113 Decision (after much hand wringing and discussion here of course! wink.gif ). YMMV

(2113 due to arrive 12/2. smile.gif. )
post #4325 of 10469
yea ill try to see what i can do on that part. i would then obviously not use the wireless xbox option and have all hooked up. im sure ill ask what what hub would be best when the time comes. itll be a few months before i start hooking everything up. i still need to figure out what wire and connectors to use for the speakers and the reciever. thanx
post #4326 of 10469
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Originally Posted by bodean View Post

Two of us live here, both with iphones.

You've heard of "butt dialing"? Perhaps it was "butt AVRing"? biggrin.gif
post #4327 of 10469
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Originally Posted by Athlon646464 View Post

My sub's amp blew out this past summer during an electrical storm. (Many other things in the house were impacted as well.) I'm going to replace the amp with a Dayton SPA250 or the Bash 300W.
My question seems to have an almost too obvious answer, but around various forums online the answer actually varies a bit.
My guess is that for hooking up the Dayton (should I go with that one) to my 2113ci I would just use the Subwoofer out from the 2113ci to the left (mono) input on the Dayton SPA250. Am I correct?
The Bash has an input labeled LFE, so hooking that one up seems pretty straight forward.
If there are better ways given I have the 2113ci, or you have thoughts about these two plate amps, fire away.......
Dayton SPA250
Bash 300W

Yup. smile.gif
post #4328 of 10469
thanks jdsmoothie / Iparsons21, ok this is a little weird. I tried first the change to the BDP's video output resolution to 1080p from Auto. Didn't seem to work. By chance crossed over to Cable/Sat AVR input and suddenly I also loss this video too for my Foxtel --> Cable/SAT (COMP1).

I figured something was seriously wrong with my HDMI1 connection on the TV, so moved to the TV HDMI2 and suddenly Blu-Ray audio and video was ok. Tested on TV HDMI3 and also ok. The options to set BDP output resolution to 1080p or 'Deep Colour Output' to OFF from Automatic did not seem to matter on TV HDMI2/3. But when connected back to TV HDMI1 the 'Deep Colour Output' needs to be set to OFF, else no video is displayed. So it seems that an additional setting impacts the Video display in this instance???
post #4329 of 10469
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Yup. smile.gif

As always - you 'da best!

Thanks!!

Happy New Year!!!!
post #4330 of 10469
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Originally Posted by AuzGunner View Post

thanks jdsmoothie / Iparsons21, ok this is a little weird. I tried first the change to the BDP's video output resolution to 1080p from Auto. Didn't seem to work. By chance crossed over to Cable/Sat AVR input and suddenly I also loss this video too for my Foxtel --> Cable/SAT (COMP1).
I figured something was seriously wrong with my HDMI1 connection on the TV, so moved to the TV HDMI2 and suddenly Blu-Ray audio and video was ok. Tested on TV HDMI3 and also ok. The options to set BDP output resolution to 1080p or 'Deep Colour Output' to OFF from Automatic did not seem to matter on TV HDMI2/3. But when connected back to TV HDMI1 the 'Deep Colour Output' needs to be set to OFF, else no video is displayed. So it seems that an additional setting impacts the Video display in this instance???

Glad to hear you got it going.

But I was referring to setting the Denon's video output resolution to 1080p which is what I had to do to settle mine down.

Now I'll see how this all works with the Sony BDP-S790 3D BluRay player, and Mitsi 73742 RPT tv... smile.gif
post #4331 of 10469
Hello folks,

I am new here and I am sure my questions might have already been answered within this thread and apologize if they've been covered. However, I looked through several pages and could not find it. I have a 2313 Denon receiver.


1. What is the best way to hookup the 2313 to the internet? Use a router extender? My cable modem is on the complete opposite side of my house.

2. Is it best to run HDMI from the cable box to the 2313 or just run a fiber optic cable for the audio? Sometimes I like to just hear my TV without the receiver on.


I appreciate your assistance! smile.gif Hope everyone has a Happy New Year!
post #4332 of 10469
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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Originally Posted by bodean View Post

Two of us live here, both with iphones.

You've heard of "butt dialing"? Perhaps it was "butt AVRing"? biggrin.gif

No. Both phones were on the table and we were sleeping
post #4333 of 10469
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Originally Posted by SundayMoney View Post

Hello folks,
I am new here and I am sure my questions might have already been answered within this thread and apologize if they've been covered. However, I looked through several pages and could not find it. I have a 2313 Denon receiver.
1. What is the best way to hookup the 2313 to the internet? Use a router extender? My cable modem is on the complete opposite side of my house.
2. Is it best to run HDMI from the cable box to the 2313 or just run a fiber optic cable for the audio? Sometimes I like to just hear my TV without the receiver on.
I appreciate your assistance! smile.gif Hope everyone has a Happy New Year!

Here is my solution;
1. My cable modem is upstairs and it is hooked to apple time capsule (backup +base router/wifi) and I have an airport express plugged near Denon connected via ethernet. Works great and No issues with software downloads.
2. I run HDMI from cable box to AVR. A similar setup would work
Most of the times, AVR when I turn on TV and cable-box (depends on HDMI handshake sequence as I understand). If the receiver turns on and I do not want it, I just turn off the Denon and the audio comes from TV speakers (there is a couple of seconds delay)

You might want to checkout the nice setup guideline at the beginning of this thread... was very useful to navigate through various options

Good Luck
post #4334 of 10469
Hi guys, I've just purchased the Denon AVR-2113 today but I'm having a few issues with my bluray player.

Bluray Player: Sony BDP-S570
TV: Panasonic 50GT50

It seems that every now and then whilst watching a movie the signal will just cut off and I get a black screen, I end up having to switch to another source and then back to the Bluray to get the picture back.

I've tried a few hdmi cables and also tested the cables with my WDTV media player which is also connected to the amp and there are no issues here.

Been through a few of the amp settings and tried turning video conversion on/off but this doesn't seem to help either.

Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong? If I set the player to 720p it seems to be fine but ideally I want the best picture from the player (1080p). I get no such issues with the Player connected directly to the TV.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.
post #4335 of 10469
Hey Guys,

(hopefully) an easy and quick NYE question:


I plan to DJ my party tonight and wondered if I can get sound out of all of my speakers (5.1) if I run Pure Direct mode. Sadly, when I use a filter there is a delay between my mixer headphones and speakers. In the past I switched to Pure and only the fronts and sub works (when I switch to LFE + Main).

Current set up connects turn tables to 2 channel mixer via RCAs to AVR thru the wall.

Any ideas? I would love to use a filter for better sound if I could get the audio to match.

Thanks!!
post #4336 of 10469
For parties, you're likely better served using the "Multi CH Stereo" mode which will replicate the FL/FR speaker audio to the SL/SR speakers as well as mixing the stereo signal to the center speaker. If there is a delay, try setting Audyssey to OFF.
post #4337 of 10469
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Originally Posted by El1te View Post

Hi guys, I've just purchased the Denon AVR-2113 today but I'm having a few issues with my bluray player.
Bluray Player: Sony BDP-S570
TV: Panasonic 50GT50
It seems that every now and then whilst watching a movie the signal will just cut off and I get a black screen, I end up having to switch to another source and then back to the Bluray to get the picture back.
I've tried a few hdmi cables and also tested the cables with my WDTV media player which is also connected to the amp and there are no issues here.
Been through a few of the amp settings and tried turning video conversion on/off but this doesn't seem to help either.
Does anyone have any idea what could be wrong? If I set the player to 720p it seems to be fine but ideally I want the best picture from the player (1080p). I get no such issues with the Player connected directly to the TV.
Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance.

Try setting the "Deep Color Output" setting on the BDP to OFF.
post #4338 of 10469
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

For parties, you're likely better served using the "Multi CH Stereo" mode which will replicate the FL/FR speaker audio to the SL/SR speakers as well as mixing the stereo signal to the center speaker. If there is a delay, try setting Audyssey to OFF.

Thanks jdsmoothie - I'll give it a shot!smile.gif
post #4339 of 10469
I just got my refurb AVR-3313CI yesterday, and have been having the most horrible series of issues trying to set it up and update its firmware.

First off, the initial setup went off without a hitch, and I am able to listen to internet radio, get notices of firmware updates available, etc.

Once I start to try and update the receiver, all manners of problems are cropping up.

Initially, the receiver notified me of an available update, but once I chose to start the update process, it could not authenticate with the server. So I exit out of the update process, and then tried again after a while. Now the receiver estimated that the update is estimated to take 40 minutes, and started the update process. The receiver went into standby, and the receiver's front panel displayed "Update retry ... Please wait ...". It got stuck there for a couple of hours before I summoned up the courage to try and reset the receiver.

I pressed INFO and BACK buttons simultaneously and pressed the POWER button on the front panel. The receiver display started flash at 1 sec intervals and I let go of the buttons. The receiver then restarted itself, and immediately went into the same "Update retry ... Please wait ..." loop. Cursing my decision to bother with refurb gear, I repeated the reset trick as before, only to have the receiver go back into the Update Retry state.

Now I read somewhere that it could help to reset network state and the microprocessor in one go, by powering on while holding the UP and DOWN arrow keys on the front panel. Did the same trick, and after the display flashing for a couple of seconds, I released the buttons and the receiver restarted itself, and out of the 'Update Retry" loop.

WELL, now I had to redo my Audyssey calibration again and saved the configuration file to my laptop before I tried the firmware update shenanigans again.

This morning, I summoned up my courage once again, and started the firmware update process. I got the notification of an update available, so I accepted the prompt to start the process, got past the authentication stage, and was greeted with the estimate that the update process could take 40 mins. I started the process, and the receiver said "Contacting the server ..." and stood there for about nervous 5mins before it started the actual update. It said "DSP .. 39 mins, Updating xx %" and got through that stage in about an hour or so.

Now, another stage of update got kicked off, saying "GUI ... 3min, Updating xx%" and then the minute counter decreased from 3 to 2 to 1 minutes, and to my surprise, it the estimate inched back up to 3 minutes. It kept flashing "Updating -> -> ->" and the minute counter now goes in a loop of 03min ... 02min ... 01min ... 03min ... 02min ... 01min ... 03min ... etc. Now the receiver has been sitting at this update for more than 3 hours now.

I am afraid to reset the receiver for the fear of bricking it.

Anyone with a similar experience, please let me know what you did. This is extremely frustrating, and Denon support is closed till after the New Year. mad.gifmad.gifmad.gif
post #4340 of 10469
This has probably been answered before, but I couldn't find it...
I have a Denon AVR-3313ci, hooked up FL, FR, and Center...No surrounds yet, they should be here later this week.
I have NOT run Audyessy setup yet, I want all speakers before I do that.
At this point I have VERY LOW volume, both on TV (HDMI 1) and cd (HDMI 2), it needs to be turned up at least half way to hear much at all.
Given the "rated" power of this AVR and the sensitivity of the speakers (92db-DefTech BP-8060ST's) I would expect serious volume at half way up.

Something just seems wrong...

Where should I look?
post #4341 of 10469
Average TV volume levels with modern AVRs is generally about 55-65% of max with movie/music listening being a bit higher at 65-75% of max so what you are experiencing is normal. Also, after reading the Audyssey 101/FAQ linked in my sig go ahead and run Audyssey now with your existing setup to get acquainted with it as it can be run on as few as 2 speakers. Ideally you'll want to use either a camera tripod or mic boom stand to support the mic during the process as noted in the Audyssey Guide as well as the AVR's owner's manual. smile.gif

This and much more is answered in post #3 of this thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_B5
Edited by jdsmoothie - 12/31/12 at 3:44pm
post #4342 of 10469
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Try setting the "Deep Color Output" setting on the BDP to OFF.

Thanks, I've turned it off, will see if it helps smile.gif
post #4343 of 10469
@ raaj -

Let it continue trying to complete the update overnight if necessary.
post #4344 of 10469
Wow, that sucks...I was hoping to have a "Theater Experience" with this amp. At $859.00 I thought it would be better than my old one. There is no way, volume wise, this can keep up.

I guess I just need to send this Denon back and go back to my old amp (Sony STR DE-698)
Edited by ceh383 - 12/31/12 at 5:07pm
post #4345 of 10469
Unless you are trying to power 4-ohm speakers, the 3313CI has more than enough power to drive most any speaker out there. Modern AVRs like the 3313CI use a logarithmic volume scale while your older model likely used a linear scale such that maybe only 20% was very loud. As long as you don't have to go above 80 on the scale, there shouldn't be any problems.
post #4346 of 10469
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Unless you are trying to power 4-ohm speakers, the 3313CI has more than enough power to drive most any speaker out there. Modern AVRs like the 3313CI use a logarithmic volume scale while your older model likely used a linear scale such that maybe only 20% was very loud. As long as you don't have to go above 80 on the scale, there shouldn't be any problems.

The DefTechs are 8 Ohm, when my wife wakes up I'll see about going to "80" on the scale....We'll see....

Thanks for the input...
post #4347 of 10469
My wife bought me a DENON AVR-1913 for Christmas and I finally got it setup 3 days ago. Been great till today.

I had everything setup on via the Option button on my Favorites Memory (under NETWORK). Today I come home and I click FAVORITES and the program hangs and locks up. It just sits there. I cannot scroll to anything else. I eventually have to hit another source to "get out" of the locked screen. When I add a new favorite that I have already added, the usual "its already a favorite" doesn't show.

All firmware has been updated after install. I have also performed a reset and have also unplugged the system for several minutes. Problem persists.

Thought I would try here before calling Tech Support.

Thanks.

AP
post #4348 of 10469
Hi, does anybody know How to reset the remote control from the 3313? I have a rather strange problem; I've programmed the remote to control my sammy tv, the on/off works, but every time I press on from the avr remote-it turns on fine, but after like 10 seconds or so, the avr source switches to "tv audio ", so I need to press my intended source again, rather annoying I'd say. Thanks in advance
post #4349 of 10469
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ceh383 View Post

Wow, that sucks...I was hoping to have a "Theater Experience" with this amp. At $859.00 I thought it would be better than my old one. There is no way, volume wise, this can keep up.

I guess I just need to send this Denon back and go back to my old amp (Sony STR DE-698)

Dude, just turn the freaking volume up!

The 3313 has MUCH more power than that old Sony. Don't confuse the number on the volume display with "power", the volume dial is just calibrated differently. 50% on the volume is WAY below half way in terms of actual power usage. Also be aware that this news receiver likely has much less distortion, so even when you crank it up it will be "cleaner" which will make it sound less "loud" at the same SPL. But first, turn the sucker up!
post #4350 of 10469
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

So then the setup is xBox (component video)--> 1913 (HDMI) ---> LG? Is there any issue with the xBox connected to the TV for that length of time? Try unplugging the 1913 for a few minutes.
Correct on the chain. No issue if Xbox is connected direct to TV. Turning off the 1913, waiting a bit, and turning it back on does fix the issue. Not sure if there's a setting I can change or if my 1913 is defective.

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Originally Posted by TerpCJ View Post

Check the power settings, or ECO mode, or Sleep settings on the TV. I was playing around with my settings and inadvertently enabled something and the same thing happened to me....it was the tv - not the Denon.
That would shut off your TV though, right? Mine just shows the LG 'cube' No Signal logo when the xbox video feed quits.
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