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post #4891 of 7825
1/18/13 at 7:10pm
I have a question about the Denon AVR 1713 and whether a firmware update has arrived (or will arrive) regarding iPad connectivity. Is it coming? Will it come?

I am planning to replace my current receiver with this model and I'd like to know if this is still an issue.
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post #4892 of 7825
1/18/13 at 7:17pm
Are you referring to a better iPad remote app? Otherwise the iPad should work just fine with the Denon XX13 models.
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post #4893 of 7825
1/18/13 at 7:21pm
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Are you referring to a better iPad remote app? Otherwise the iPad should work just fine with the Denon XX13 models.

I'm talking about just hooking it up via the usb port on the front. I've read that it won't work via usb/30 pin connector (to play music from the iPad).
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post #4894 of 7825
1/18/13 at 7:36pm
Don't recall any recent iPad posts in this thread, but AFAIK, there's no issue connecting it via USB to the 1713.
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post #4895 of 7825
1/18/13 at 9:21pm
Got my 2113 delivered last night and hooked up to the satellites of my Z5500. (Just until my TSI-100's get here.) Real easy to setup, as was Audyssey.

Messing about trying to get the speaker wires into the outputs on the back of the Denon while it's in my TV unit tells me one thing. Man I need to get some banana plugs!
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Ok.. quick update on the issue documented above.

I just spoke with Denon support, and the rep advised me to just put my fingers underneath the panels and yank them clean off the chassis. He said he wasn't even sure why the panels were there to begin with, and yanking the panels off would not impact the warranty going forward. I asked the agent to document the conversation on the case file, and proceeded to yank the panels off. The clips just broke off, and thankfully, there were no blemishes being covered up underneath. Save for a couple of minor scrapes around the edges, there are no big blemishes on the receiver now.



Hopefully, there'd be no more surprises awaiting, while I setup the receiver.

...What do they even do!?
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post #4896 of 7825
1/18/13 at 11:35pm
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Ok.. quick update on the issue documented above.

I just spoke with Denon support, and the rep advised me to just put my fingers underneath the panels and yank them clean off the chassis. He said he wasn't even sure why the panels were there to begin with, and yanking the panels off would not impact the warranty going forward. I asked the agent to document the conversation on the case file, and proceeded to yank the panels off. The clips just broke off, and thankfully, there were no blemishes being covered up underneath. Save for a couple of minor scrapes around the edges, there are no big blemishes on the receiver now.



Hopefully, there'd be no more surprises awaiting, while I setup the receiver.

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...What do they even do!?

According to some here, the best guess would be that the extra panels superimpose on the perforations of the chassis top panel, and might serve as a shielding material protecting users if the chassis gets too hot in that area. It's just a guess, but sounds like a plausible reason. Overheating or accidentally touching the receiver is not a concern for me, so I yanked the mangled panels off. Now the receiver looks its part, rather than like a patched quilt.
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post #4897 of 7825
1/19/13 at 7:48am
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That just reminded me to check and my 2113 does NOT have those panels.
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post #4898 of 7825
1/19/13 at 7:52am
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Originally Posted by rich7sena View Post

I have a question about the Denon AVR 1713 and whether a firmware update has arrived (or will arrive) regarding iPad connectivity. Is it coming? Will it come?

I am planning to replace my current receiver with this model and I'd like to know if this is still an issue.

My iPad worked just fine with my 2113 when I tested the USB direct connection. Not sure why the 1713 would be any different. Besides, Airplay is so much more convenient anyway!
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post #4899 of 7825
1/19/13 at 8:56am
I just got a 1613 and I'm having a couple of strange problems.

1. When I use my Harmony One remote, my TV turns on, my Dish Hopper turns on, my 1613 turns on, but there is no audio. I have to turn the receiver off and on again to get sound.

2. When I go to bluray watching Dolby HD, and then go to watching cable, I have no option for Dolby and I can't get it to go to Dolby unless I turn it off and on again.

Is there a way to fix either of these problems or is this something I am going to have to live with?
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post #4900 of 7825
1/19/13 at 9:23am
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Both of these sound like like HDMI handshake issues with the Dish box. Do these symptoms occur with any other input besides the Dish hopper?
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post #4901 of 7825
1/19/13 at 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by sojodave View Post

I just got a 1613 and I'm having a couple of strange problems.

1. When I use my Harmony One remote, my TV turns on, my Dish Hopper turns on, my 1613 turns on, but there is no audio. I have to turn the receiver off and on again to get sound.

2. When I go to bluray watching Dolby HD, and then go to watching cable, I have no option for Dolby and I can't get it to go to Dolby unless I turn it off and on again.

Is there a way to fix either of these problems or is this something I am going to have to live with?
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Both of these sound like like HDMI handshake issues with the Dish box. Do these symptoms occur with any other input besides the Dish hopper?

I had it happen once watching a dvd. I changed out the hdmi cable with a new 1.4 hdmi cable from Monoprice and I tried it and the first time the audio worked on cable, but the second time the audio did not come on. I'm wondering if I change the delay in my Harmony remote, would that have any affect?
Edited by sojodave - 1/19/13 at 12:21pm
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post #4902 of 7825
1/19/13 at 12:07pm
The recommended way to avoid HDMI handshake issues is to first power on the TV, wait roughly 5 secs, power on the AVR, wait roughly 5 secs, and then power on the source device. Add some pauses to your Harmony One and see if that doesn't resolve the issue.
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post #4903 of 7825
1/19/13 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

The recommended way to avoid HDMI handshake issues is to first power on the TV, wait roughly 5 secs, power on the AVR, wait roughly 5 secs, and then power on the source device. Add some pauses to your Harmony One and see if that doesn't resolve the issue.

I'll try this...
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post #4904 of 7825
1/19/13 at 3:04pm
Hi. Long time lurker, first time poster.

(got myself a 2113 based on the info in this thread - love your work, guys!)

Anyway...just posting a technical issue in case it hasn't been covered yet. I was searching last night for some time & couldn't find an answer but eventually worked it out on my own.

Symptom: AVR will recognise a source if the source is switched on *after* the AVR, but if the source is switched on first, or if you change to another source & then change back, the AVR sends "no signal" to the TV. In my case this was happening with a PVR (Topfield TRF-7160). Everything's connected via HDMI, and this might be some kind of HDMI handshake issue?

Cause / resolution: I found that I'd configured my input for that source differently from the others. (must have been randomly exploring menu options at some point). Instead of just assigning the HDMI input wholly to the source, I had used Setup > Inputs > Video Source > Video Select to manually point to the PVR, even though the HDMI input was already pointing to that source. When I switched it back to "auto" the problem went away & I could switch my devices on in any order, or switch between sources without getting the "no signal" connection dropout.

Hope this helps smile.gif
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post #4905 of 7825
1/19/13 at 3:09pm
PS - when I was having this problem, the only way to get the signal back was to reboot the PVR. This was an OK workaround, but not possible if the PVR was recording something, obviously!
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post #4906 of 7825
1/19/13 at 5:22pm
Hello everybody, I recently posted this in the General Receiver forum and am cross posting this to the owner's thread. I'm having trouble setting up a Denon 1513 for my parents. They have a fairly simple setup: only the tv, my ps3, and a sony dvd player. The dvd player doesn't have an hdmi option, so I am using rca connectors to hookup the dvd player to the receiver. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. The ps3 is working fine with audio and video through hdmi, but the dvd player input is only playing audio. I have been trying to use Batpig's tutorial, but when I get to the input assign stage, I don't have the option of following his instructions. Under input assign, my only options are:
Optical: DVD, TV/Audio, CBL/SAT, Game, Aux, Off, Blu-Ray
Coaxial: (same options)
Default

On the back of the receiver, I have the red and white cables plugged into the "Audio In" and the yellow cable into the "Video In" DVD.

I don't have the option of using the PS3 as a DVD player because I purchased it in Korea.

The cables are all connected to the same source name on the AVR.

jdsmoothie has offered the suggestion that perhaps the dvd player is not compatible with the avr and that is why the video doesn't play.

Thank you so much for any help!
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post #4907 of 7825
1/19/13 at 6:10pm
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

The recommended way to avoid HDMI handshake issues is to first power on the TV, wait roughly 5 secs, power on the AVR, wait roughly 5 secs, and then power on the source device. Add some pauses to your Harmony One and see if that doesn't resolve the issue.

I set the delay to 8000 ms, I'm no sure how many ms are in 5 seconds. Does anyone know?
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post #4908 of 7825
1/19/13 at 6:50pm
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Originally Posted by sojodave View Post

I set the delay to 8000 ms, I'm no sure how many ms are in 5 seconds. Does anyone know?

5000
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post #4909 of 7825
1/19/13 at 10:40pm
I copied this from the The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX12 Model Owner's Thread:

Stepping up from the 1612 to the 1712 adds:
* Audyssey MultEQ XT instead of "regular" MultEQ
* 7 channels x 90 watts
* The ability to "assign" the two extra amps
* 6 HDMI inputs (up from 4 on the 1312/1612)
* 2 Component Video inputs with 1 output
* Dedicated "2CH DIRECT/STEREO" menu for configuring 2-channel audio differently than multichannel audio
* Zone 2 functionality (no pre-outs, must be powered via the two "assignable" amps)
* Room-to-room IR jack for hard-wiring a remote control (e.g. from another room or to hide gear in a closet)
* NO USB port

I'm curious if any of the xx13 models have the dedicated "2CH DIRECT/STEREO" menu or something similar.
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post #4910 of 7825
1/19/13 at 11:58pm
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Originally Posted by robotclaws View Post

Hello everybody, I recently posted this in the General Receiver forum and am cross posting this to the owner's thread. I'm having trouble setting up a Denon 1513 for my parents. They have a fairly simple setup: only the tv, my ps3, and a sony dvd player. The dvd player doesn't have an hdmi option, so I am using rca connectors to hookup the dvd player to the receiver. I am not sure what I am doing wrong. The ps3 is working fine with audio and video through hdmi, but the dvd player input is only playing audio. I have been trying to use Batpig's tutorial, but when I get to the input assign stage, I don't have the option of following his instructions. Under input assign, my only options are:
Optical: DVD, TV/Audio, CBL/SAT, Game, Aux, Off, Blu-Ray
Coaxial: (same options)
Default

On the back of the receiver, I have the red and white cables plugged into the "Audio In" and the yellow cable into the "Video In" DVD.

I don't have the option of using the PS3 as a DVD player because I purchased it in Korea.

The cables are all connected to the same source name on the AVR.

jdsmoothie has offered the suggestion that perhaps the dvd player is not compatible with the avr and that is why the video doesn't play.

Thank you so much for any help!

How is the video connected to the display? You ARE aware that this model doesn't do any video conversion, right?

Also, if you were on my website you should have read that the inputs you were trying to assign are NOT assignable... But that's a secondary point because its not the issue here.
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post #4911 of 7825
1/20/13 at 12:00am
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Originally Posted by woody777 View Post

I copied this from the The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX12 Model Owner's Thread:

Stepping up from the 1612 to the 1712 adds:
* Audyssey MultEQ XT instead of "regular" MultEQ
* 7 channels x 90 watts
* The ability to "assign" the two extra amps
* 6 HDMI inputs (up from 4 on the 1312/1612)
* 2 Component Video inputs with 1 output
* Dedicated "2CH DIRECT/STEREO" menu for configuring 2-channel audio differently than multichannel audio
* Zone 2 functionality (no pre-outs, must be powered via the two "assignable" amps)
* Room-to-room IR jack for hard-wiring a remote control (e.g. from another room or to hide gear in a closet)
* NO USB port

I'm curious if any of the xx13 models have the dedicated "2CH DIRECT/STEREO" menu or something similar.

Only the 3313 has it now.
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post #4912 of 7825
1/20/13 at 12:01am
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Originally Posted by sojodave View Post

I set the delay to 8000 ms, I'm no sure how many ms are in 5 seconds. Does anyone know?

5000

Just to expand - the "ms" stands for millisecond, which by definition is 1/1000th of a second. wink.gif
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post #4913 of 7825
1/20/13 at 3:56am
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Originally Posted by sojodave View Post

I set the delay to 8000 ms, I'm no sure how many ms are in 5 seconds. Does anyone know?

It's now set for an 8 sec delay although note the 5 secs was just a suggestion. The take away is there should be enough of a pause between powering on each device that resolves any HDMI handshake issue.
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post #4914 of 7825
1/20/13 at 5:34am
I like to listen to music while I sleep, is the 2113 happy to be on all day then continue to be left on overnight? No overheating issues I should be worried about?

I normally leave DIFM's Ambient radio playing for most of the day/while I sleep, and so my PC is on to play that music. With the 2113's Internet Radio function my PC doesn't need to be on. It's great!
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post #4915 of 7825
1/20/13 at 5:38am
Sure ... just leave some cookies and milk as it gets hungry about 2am. smile.gif
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post #4916 of 7825
1/20/13 at 9:45am
Hello everyone,

I have a question related to the volume on my 1613. I have Energy Take 5's and a PSW10 hooked-up the the AVR. What I have noticed the last few days (which I didn't notice before), is the volume going down, then back up on its own. I don't know any other way to explain it. I am listening to Pandora on Dolby PL II Music Mode and have sound on all speakers, but the sound will get lower, then back up again, then lower again and so on. The volume number on the AVR doesn't change on its own, just the sound. Anyone have any ideas?

PS - Thanks again to jd on anther issue I had. I was having trouble w/ the ARC and couldn't figure out how to change my Viera-Link settings from TV to Home Theater to get sound from my speakers when using YouTube, etc on my TV. It was grayed-out and I tried everything. Via Google I read a post of yours explaining to change the HDMI control to on as factory setting was off. Your help is appreciated.
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post #4917 of 7825
1/20/13 at 9:58am
Hi Aiden,

Check if you have dynamic volume (compression)set. If so lower the setting, or even better to test, off completely.


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post #4918 of 7825
1/20/13 at 10:00am
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

The recommended way to avoid HDMI handshake issues is to first power on the TV, wait roughly 5 secs, power on the AVR, wait roughly 5 secs, and then power on the source device. Add some pauses to your Harmony One and see if that doesn't resolve the issue.

I had previously posted about my 3313CI HDMI handshake issues supposedly resolving by setting Deep Color to "Off"... It actually did NOT fix the screen blanking issue as it re-appeared. Apparently during the process of changing the settings I must've powered down the 3313 and then back on, which results in a power on pattern similar to what jd suggests above. I have reliably re-produced and resolved the handshake issue by powering on & off the 3313 so I'm convinced that's it. I will be updating the Activities on my Harmon to account for this. Definitely make sure you are powering the 3313 on AFTER your TV/Projector if you're having handshake issues.
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post #4919 of 7825
1/20/13 at 10:11am
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Hi Aiden,

Check if you have dynamic volume (compression)set. If so lower the setting, or even better to test, off completely.


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Hey mindcrime,

How do I locate/change the dynamic volume setting? I checked the setup menu, but couldn't find it.
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post #4920 of 7825
1/20/13 at 10:33am
Hi Aiden,

Check page 24 of the 1613 manual. Step 16 sets it.
I reckon there are ways to set/unset it not having to go through the whole audyssey setup. I own a 3313 and the menu structures are quite distinct. Search the .pdf version of your manual on dynanic volume and you should hit it soon enough.

Cheers,

Michael


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