The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX13 Model Owner's Thread & FAQ - Page 166

Yup .. sound quality should be the same.

1. Yup. The manual is misleading in this respect as any "high speed" HDMI cable can be used (ie. don't pay the extra money on a cable with ethernet capability as this feature has not been implemented on any current model AVR Denon or otherwise).
2. Of course it's intended for surround sound use. The limitation however, is that the HDMI(ARC) audio from the TV is limited to only stereo 2.0 audio on many TVs while using the optical audio out can pass DD 5.1 in some cases.
3. If your Roku and Apple TV are connected to the AVR as you indicate, then ARC audio does not come into play.

Did some searches but didn't find any posts. Is it possible to remove the large white sticker on the right side of the front panel that lists some of the units features? Does it leave a sticky residue? Will something like "Goo-Gone" work without damaging it?

Yes. No. Not needed (see previous answer).

1. Yup. The manual is misleading in this respect as any "high speed" HDMI cable can be used (ie. don't pay the extra money on a cable with ethernet capability as this feature has not been implemented on any current model AVR Denon or otherwise).
2. Of course it's intended for surround sound use. The limitation however, is that the HDMI(ARC) audio from the TV is limited to only stereo 2.0 audio on many TVs while using the optical audio out can pass DD 5.1 in some cases.
3. If your Roku and Apple TV are connected to the AVR as you indicate, then ARC audio does not come into play.

Tks JD, your awsome. cabling and interfacing all my components is not my strength.

Damn. I just ordered a high speed HDMI cable with ethernet from Mono. Are you saying that I should not use it? My TV is also 3D (new purchase) and maybe I should be using a H S cable and maybe my purchase is not a waste afterall?

An HDMI cable with Ethernet works fine with systems which don't have that feature. It just includes additional wires connecting existing pins that the equipment doesn't use. Using a high-speed cable is highly desirable for 3D, since long standard-speed cables often have difficulty transporting the higher bitrates used by 3D signals.

OK, just going back with updates from my post from yesterday. I've unplugged everything from the back - all speaker wire and components, and have done both a microprocessor reset and network reset since doing that. The receiver still will not stay on, I'll turn it on, and within a couple seconds it will shut off, and I get the fast blinking red light. At this point am I to assume this is a bad unit and send it back under warranty? Is there anything additional I can consider doing?

Not wasted at all, rather just paid a dollar or two more for it, and a "high speed" cable is required for 1080p video regardless of whether 2D or 3D.

I feel better now, but now I have another concern. i have so many conponents going to my 2113. I now fear some of these cables may not be high speed as they were acquired from different sources, different times... Everything is working. I think I'm going to change all my HDMI cabling to known high speed cables just in case.

Not to sounds like a noob, but is the best to run everything through the AVR. For example, if i have a Comcast HD player, Blu Ray and anything else to have that run to the AVR and have one HDMI to the TV?

Also, try playing with the Reference Level Offset in the Audyssey menu (0,5,10,15). The less the offset, the louder your subs (and surrounds) will be.

FYI, for Blu Rays, I typically listen around -15 to -10db with a reference offset of 15.

That's the best way to do it, with one caveat - a lot of cable boxes have HDMI handshake issues. If you experience video or audio dropouts often with your cable box running through the AVR you may want to connect it directly to the TV with the optical audio running to the AVR.

In theory yes, however, cable/sat boxes often have HDMI handshake issues requiring them to be connected directly to the TV with optical from the box to the AVR.

I wouldn't. Regardless of whether the cable is actually rated as "high speed" or not, if it's working correctly and passing the video resolution (1080p or otherwise) to the AVR with no issue, there's no reason to replace it. Note also that some cables rated as "Standard speed" may still pass 1080p video.

If you don't see "sparklies" in the video or dropouts in either video or audio, then there's no need to replace your cables. HDMI is digital, so when there are problems, they usually are quite obvious.

edited to add: As usual, JD is just too fast for the rest of us

Thank you both, that helps a ton. I guess it will be a roll of the dice when I get my new HT setup. If not, thanks for the heads up on the optical audio problem. That approach makes sense

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AVR-1913, HDMI control, Apple TV and firmware update

I purchased an AVR-1913 in Austin, Texas two days ago. When I powered it on, I was notified a firmware update was available, but I didn't want to wait 30 minutes to get started with installation, so I deferred. I enabled HDMI control so that the Sony TV would switch the AVR on and off as it was switched on and off since my DirecTV audio is handled by the AVR. All went well until I tried to use my Apple TV. When selected, I would have a short screen of video on my Sony TV and a short burst of audio, then nothing - no video and no audio. The Apple TV worked fine directly connected to any of the Sony TV HDMI inputs, but it would not work through the AVR-1913 on the GAME, MEDIA, DVD or AUX HDMI inputs. I've had some other funny things happen with HDMI control, so I turned it off, and then the Apple TV signals were recognized and processed by the AVR correctly. Finallly I did the firmware update, re-enabled HDMI control, and now the Apple TV still works. I don't know what this means, if anything, but I share it in case it helps someone else.

The AVR replaced a Yamaha RX-V730. That receiver/amplifier is great, but it does not switch HDMI, so I had to switch video inputs at the Sony TV and audio on the RX-V730, and that was getting to be a pain with DirecTV, BlueRay, Apple TV and a PS3. I've had a lot of Yamaha equipment, and it was just time for a change. So far, the AVR does the job well.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread#user_L1

So you have two wireless networks - the Comcast and the Dlink. Why? To which one do your PC, etc., wirelessly connect?

Was wondering if anyone is using Spotify w/ a Denon 1613 or knows if the 1613 is compatible? I know there is an official list of AVR's that are compatible w/ Spotify and the 1613 isn't one of them, but just wanted to make sure. I am currently a free Spotify user, but would become premium if I could use it via my receiver. I'd much rather use Spotify instead of Pandora and Airplay, which I currently use.

Thanks

If you are referring to the on board Spotify, it was only added via firmware update to the 1913 and higher models, although you should be able to use the Spotify smart phone app to stream it to the AVR.

I don't own a smart phone unfortunately. Is it possible to download an app to my Windows laptop and stream it to the AVR?

You can make a wired connection from the laptop to the AVR or try the following ...

http://ludwigstuyck.wordpress.com/2012/07/27/streaming-spotify-to-dlna-device-over-network/

Thanks jd, I will read the article and give it a try. When you mentioned a wired connection from the laptop to the AVR, do you mean just use an HDMI cable from the laptop to the receiver?

Well kindof.. The new house came pre wired with ethernet. The comcast router upstairs has a single port which feeds to a panel/hub in the basement. The Comcast guy said I would be better off connecting another router there with multiple ports to feed the house (Than the alternative of a slower switch?) So basically the Dlink is the wired feed; AND I only connect wirelessly directly to the Comcast Router.

And reading within media player:
... Your devices must be on the same subnet as your computer. Most home networks consist of a single subnet. However, if you have multiple routers attached to your home network, you probably have multiple subnets. If you have multiple routers in your home and you have trouble sharing your media to certain devices, try connecting those devices to the same router that your computer is connected to..

So its sounding like the multiple routers may be causing an issue. Might a switch be the better/easier alternative?

If I am reading this correctly, the Comcast guy has no clue. A single port router is just that, a router. A router with multiple ports is a router and a switch built into one. Most home networks run C class private addresses ie: 192.168.xxx.xxx. These addresses are not meant to to be routed, some routers will and some routers won't work with private addressing, and if yours will work with private addressing you need to set up a routing table. Dump the second router, install a 10/100/1000 switch and speed won't be the issue. If what you have downstairs is a true "hub" that can cause speed issues.

Yes.