The **OFFICIAL** Denon AVR-XX13 Model Owner's Thread & FAQ - Page 170

Originally Posted by batpig 

yes, internal test tones are -30dbfs (i.e. 75dB calibrated).

Originally Posted by batpig 

Modern Denons still have A/B speakers options but it's no longer accessible with a simple button on the front of the unit or remote. You have to dig into the menus to activate it; the intended application is really for those who have a separate "dedicated 2ch" setup that is independent from the main multich setup, so you can switch between your multich rig and the "B" rig. It's a little harder to get the type of switching you are describing unless you have a Harmony or other programmable universal which can access the remote command.

More likely you will want to use the Zone 2 capabilities, which allow fully independent power, source and volume control. You can read more about this and its limitations here: http://batpigworld.com/wp/?p=160

Out of curiosity, since you only have one speaker in each spot, did you have some way to make the output mono? Or were you just putting half of the stereo feed in each room? If you are interested in mono output, then it's probably worth stepping up to the 2313, which allows you to select Zone 2 output as stereo or mono; this would allow you play an identical mono downmix in both rooms.

Originally Posted by batpig 

Modern Denons still have A/B speakers options but it's no longer accessible with a simple button on the front of the unit or remote. You have to dig into the menus to activate it; the intended application is really for those who have a separate "dedicated 2ch" setup that is independent from the main multich setup, so you can switch between your multich rig and the "B" rig. It's a little harder to get the type of switching you are describing unless you have a Harmony or other programmable universal which can access the remote command.

More likely you will want to use the Zone 2 capabilities, which allow fully independent power, source and volume control. You can read more about this and its limitations here: http://batpigworld.com/wp/?p=160

Out of curiosity, since you only have one speaker in each spot, did you have some way to make the output mono? Or were you just putting half of the stereo feed in each room? If you are interested in mono output, then it's probably worth stepping up to the 2313, which allows you to select Zone 2 output as stereo or mono; this would allow you play an identical mono downmix in both rooms.

Originally Posted by SPiET 

Yes but can i use the 2 speakers at the same time as the 5.1 when i want to listen to music and disable them when i only want 5.1? Like with the old yamaha receiver (a and b buttons)?

Originally Posted by npgatech 

Hi All,

First post I currently own 2112CI model from last year. I have recently acquired 2 monoblock amplifiers (135watts each) and was trying to fiddle around with the 2112CI for pre-outs (Zone 2). After a couple of hours, no joy. The manual clearly says that Zone 2 pre-outs only pass analog signals (bastards!) So, I can't use my Apple TV or PS3 with Zone 2 pre-outs.

Now, the 2112CI is on Craigslist for a new home. I am back in the market for another receiver...infact, I just need a pre-amp with HDMI inputs but they're exceeding hard to find and pretty pricey. Seems like I am just going to get a receiver and use pre-outs.

I have a request from all the pros in this forum thread. What is a good model to go with if I want the following:

- HDMI 1.4 with 3D switching
- Strip HDMI audio and pass through the pre-outs (just need 2.1, but 7.1 couldn't hurt)
- Need a volume control for the pre-outs. My monoblocks have no volume control...so I cannot use line-level pre-out signal in interest of saving my ears/speakers.
- I don't need Audessey or any of the DSP really...

Even an older xx12 would work :-) I am also looking at the Harman Kardon 3600 which has 7.1 pre-outs...not sure if they are line-level or variable volume.

Thank you!

Originally Posted by superhq 

Hey guys. I just got 1713 after returning Yamaha rxv673. I can't figure out how to set the 1713 that if i don't want the AV on, but want to watch TV , it still passes the signal through (it was possible with Yamaha).If it is not possible with this unit, i might return it. I red the manual but couldn't find any info on this. Can someone give me any hint? Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by blind99 

New to the forum, thanks everyone for all the great info.

I'm unable to get the ARC to work.
Equipment:

TCL55E50 Panasonic TV
Denon 2313 Cl
Cable Box

The Denon HDMI Monitor 1 is connected to the Panasonic's HDMI (ARC) 2 input.

I would like to run Netflix on the TV and have the audio come through the AVR. The picture will play, but no audio is heard.
I've tried a bunch of settings, currently the AVR video/hdmi settings are
hdmi control on, standby source last, control monitor 1

thanks for any information!

Originally Posted by jdsmoothie 

Yes, by simply using the remote to turn Zone 2 ON/OFF with the following Zone 2 source limitations ....

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_M

Originally Posted by Alan P 

They actually face into the room at a 45 degree angle - "corner horns". But, yeah, I'm gonna try spinning the top hats a bit and see how it goes.

Not even sure why I want to do this, I've got a very capable center channel. I was just reading a thread about phantom centers and how it can sound better than a dedicated center *in some situations* and wanted to give it a go. Will probably end up going back to the dedicated center, but if I can get my FL/FR imaging better in the process that'll be cool.

Originally Posted by chrisinvan 

Hi all,

I just hooked up a new center channel speaker to my Denon 1713 and ran Audyssey MultEQ XT, and while the center sounds very clear (much sharper and nicer than my last center), dialogue seems very localized (not blending well, distinctly coming from the speaker instead of being part of the sound stage)...

but more to the point, it's sounding a little boxy. Could this be because I haven't set an appropriate crossover point?

Speaker is about $300 so quality should be good when properly set up. I've also heard this model of speaker in someone else's setup, and it sounded better.

Any input appreciated!

Chris

Originally Posted by jdsmoothie 

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_E9

Originally Posted by batpig 

You can designate either the LAST source used or a specific HDMI input to always be used as the standby source. You cannot switch sources which the AVR is off.

Originally Posted by batpig 

This has been reported a few times. Try a full microprocessor reset (note that this will erase all settings) and if the problem crops up again I might see about exchanging it.

Originally Posted by SPiET 

Ok thanks so it can be done , however i need to do it with TV on and going into the Denon menu through the remote control?

Originally Posted by batpig 

That symptom describes an HDMI failure -- the signal strength drops to a point where the connection is lost. This could be due to a number of factors.

Most likely is a cable issue: either a bad HDMI cable, or a good cable that is poorly seated (e.g. loose connection points or tension due to a cable bend near a connection point), or an HDMI cable that is too long for the signal strength. Less likely is a hardware malfunction (e.g. bad HDMI input / board) but the cable is the most likely culprit.