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post #5191 of 8301
2/1/13 at 7:53pm
Hello Denon owners. Please tell me about your AVR. I just recently bought a Marantz SR5007 for upgrading to audyssey Multi EQ XT from my first receiver a Onkyo TX-NR609. I must say the higher level (XT) audyssey dials in the subwoofer nicely! I am not satisfied though and am considering taking it back for possibly the Denon 3313. I have a 7.1 with the front height speakers and the SR5007 only has 1 option for heights, DD PLIIz...My lower level Onkyo had much more. 3313 owners are you satisfied?
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post #5192 of 8301
2/2/13 at 3:24am
I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but you've got 174 pages of people talking about their Denon AVRs in just this thread alone, and that's just about the xx13 models. Add in the xx12 thread and you've got hours and hours of reading to do about peoples' experiences and impressions, both good and bad.

I will say one thing: I only replaced my 2002 model Denon (4802r) with a 2012 model (3312ci) because of new features, not because of any inherent shortcomings or failures in the older unit. So far I'm as pleased with the new one as I was with the old.
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post #5193 of 8301
2/2/13 at 6:39am
I had a brief power outage the other night, and now for some reason I can't get airplay to work anymore on my 3313? I also had to let Roomie find it again. Any help would be much appreciated, it was working flawlessly before. Thank you.
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post #5194 of 8301
2/2/13 at 8:51am
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I'm not trying to be rude or anything, but you've got 174 pages of people talking about their Denon AVRs in just this thread alone, and that's just about the xx13 models. Add in the xx12 thread and you've got hours and hours of reading to do about peoples' experiences and impressions, both good and bad.

Yes and I have explored. But sometimes it's easier to ask a direct question when you can't find information pertaining to your exact concern. I just bought the Marantz SR5007 to upgrade to audyssey multi eq xt. I discovered there is literally one listening preset for a 7.1 configuration with front height speakers, DDPLZII heights setting. The 3313 looks like it adds audyssey dsx which my Onkyo had.
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post #5195 of 8301
2/2/13 at 9:32am
Hello, If anyone knows Electronics Expo's current pricing could they PM the info? They are closed for the weekend and I am considering purchasing the 3313CI but would like to know what EE's pricing is since everyone here typically says they have the best price. Thanks in advance.
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post #5196 of 8301
2/2/13 at 10:40am
Don't limit yourself to one place. I decided to purchase a 3313CI just before the end of the year and called each of the official online e-retailers listed on the Denon site (http://usa.denon.com/us/wheretobuy/pages/OnlineETailers.aspx) and found the best deal with One Call (http://www.onecall.com/). Of course, I had to call them to get the details, but it was worth it (for me).
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post #5197 of 8301
2/2/13 at 11:29am
Wanted to weigh in with my experience after replacing my bedroom Pioneer VSX-919AH with the Denon 2113ci. First of all, whoever it was that urged folks to skip the 1913 and spring for the 2113ci, THANK YOU. I gained some valuable features for a price difference of about $50. Second, YES the upgrade is worthwhile, if only because of the built-in Airplay, and iPhone and Android remotes. But the sound gets a perceptible bump as well -- and this, from an amp (the Pioneer) that I always valued for its warmth and fullness. Third, extra HDMI inputs enabled me to dispense with a switcher, a bunch of spaghetti and lengthy remote macros that sometimes didn't work. Very, very pleased with this AVR, which gives me almost everything I get on my 4113ci (except for 9-channel DTS and Dolby plus zone-2, and Audyssey XT32) for a quite reasonable price.
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post #5198 of 8301
2/2/13 at 12:26pm
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Originally Posted by MarkEHansen View Post

Don't limit yourself to one place. I decided to purchase a 3313CI just before the end of the year and called each of the official online e-retailers listed on the Denon site (http://usa.denon.com/us/wheretobuy/pages/OnlineETailers.aspx) and found the best deal with One Call (http://www.onecall.com/). Of course, I had to call them to get the details, but it was worth it (for me).

Thanks. They seems to have the best price as well with several places I contacted. One person PM'ed me their price and it wasn't as good. I've just read many people saying what great prices this store had and the last time I called they wouldn't give me any other price than MSRP unless I wanted them to price match.
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post #5199 of 8301
2/2/13 at 12:45pm
^^
Prices can vary from week to week based on supply and demand so expect them to change. Also, another great source is AVS sales (www.avscience.com) which is also open today although not sure of their hours.
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post #5200 of 8301
2/2/13 at 3:12pm
well I took back the Marantz SR5007 and upgraded to the Denon 3313! Got it hooked up, ran audyssey, changed a few settings and it's all done! I do like this receiver better for sure. Basically I was immediately disappointed with the few listening modes on the Marantz especially since I have a 7.1 setup utilizing the front height speakers. I do like the Audyssey DSX mode.
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post #5201 of 8301
2/2/13 at 3:16pm
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Got it hooked up, ran audyssey, changed a few settings and it's all done!

That is changing speakers to small, crossovers 80hz on front left/right and center. Audyssey set them to large. Left the front heights at 90hz which they were set at. And the surrounds at 200hz which they were set at. Moved the sub from -3.5db to +1.0db.
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post #5202 of 8301
2/2/13 at 3:24pm
I started a new thread regarding my old Denon AVR 1801 which has now been superseded by the 2113 I got last year. I know it is off topic here but someone here may have the answer for me so I will repeat my post in the other thread here if you all don't mind. cool.gif

"Hi all, I have been searching but haven't found the answer yet to my question.
Lat year I upgraded my home cinema amp from Denon 1801 to a Denon 2113. Loving it. Now I want to use the 1801 for my stereo set up elsewhere in the house. Can I bridge the front & rear channels to increase power out put? If so, how?

Thanks all."
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post #5203 of 8301
2/2/13 at 3:48pm
audio question... threw transformers blu-ray into my ps3 to hear some serious surround sound on new denon 2113... when bluray boots it says mult ch... then for intro at setting screen i see it says dolby PLii cinema, neo 6, dolby pro logic etc... then once the movie starts it goes back and plays in multi ch... why is this??

when i press select on ps3 it comes up ontop saying its truehd 5.1.. is the receiver not picking up on it?
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post #5204 of 8301
2/2/13 at 4:55pm
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Originally Posted by Vdawgs22 View Post

audio question... threw transformers blu-ray into my ps3 to hear some serious surround sound on new denon 2113... when bluray boots it says mult ch... then for intro at setting screen i see it says dolby PLii cinema, neo 6, dolby pro logic etc... then once the movie starts it goes back and plays in multi ch... why is this??

when i press select on ps3 it comes up ontop saying its truehd 5.1.. is the receiver not picking up on it?

afaik,multich means the receiver is getting PCM. Which would mean your PS3 is decoding the TureHD and sendint the PCM to the receiver. THe receiver can't tell whether the PCM is decoded TureHD, or decoded DOlby, or decoded DTS, or was on the disc natively as PCM.

THe rest of your description confuses me. Generally, though, even if a movie is multichannel lossless there are portions of the disc, other than the movie, that may be in stereo, which the receiver would tell you it could expand into multichannel using PLii, etc. I assume that's what you're seeing.
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post #5205 of 8301
2/2/13 at 5:02pm
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afaik,multich means the receiver is getting PCM. Which would mean your PS3 is decoding the TureHD and sendint the PCM to the receiver. THe receiver can't tell whether the PCM is decoded TureHD, or decoded DOlby, or decoded DTS, or was on the disc natively as PCM.

THe rest of your description confuses me. Generally, though, even if a movie is multichannel lossless there are portions of the disc, other than the movie, that may be in stereo, which the receiver would tell you it could expand into multichannel using PLii, etc. I assume that's what you're seeing.

why isnt the receiver decoding the entire movie in truehd which the ps3 says its broadcasting?
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post #5206 of 8301
2/2/13 at 7:34pm
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Originally Posted by DavidBulluss View Post

I started a new thread regarding my old Denon AVR 1801 which has now been superseded by the 2113 I got last year. I know it is off topic here but someone here may have the answer for me so I will repeat my post in the other thread here if you all don't mind. cool.gif

"Hi all, I have been searching but haven't found the answer yet to my question.
Lat year I upgraded my home cinema amp from Denon 1801 to a Denon 2113. Loving it. Now I want to use the 1801 for my stereo set up elsewhere in the house. Can I bridge the front & rear channels to increase power out put? If so, how?

Thanks all."

No as there's only a single power supply so using the "bi-amp" setting won't provide any real additional power benefit and as there are no main zone pre-outs there's no way to connect an external amp to power the main zone speakers. If you want more power, you'll need to upgrade to a 3313CI or a Marantz 5007 either of which has main zone pre-outs in which to connect a more powerful external amp (eg. Emotiva XPA-2).
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post #5207 of 8301
2/2/13 at 7:39pm
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Originally Posted by Vdawgs22 View Post

audio question... threw transformers blu-ray into my ps3 to hear some serious surround sound on new denon 2113... when bluray boots it says mult ch... then for intro at setting screen i see it says dolby PLii cinema, neo 6, dolby pro logic etc... then once the movie starts it goes back and plays in multi ch... why is this??

when i press select on ps3 it comes up ontop saying its truehd 5.1.. is the receiver not picking up on it?

The AVR can only play what it receives. Ensure the PS3 is set to "bitstream" and not "LPCM".
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post #5208 of 8301
2/2/13 at 8:35pm
Hi,

Does somebody know how can I configure the volume of Verizon's DVR and Denon 2113? I can't manage to configure it through my Verizon remote. In the previous recieer, I could control the volume by the DVR and the would change, while the volume in the receiver itself stayed constant. Right now, I can't do it anymore, it's either changes to mute (volume 0) or whatever volume there is in the receiver (1-30 on the Verizon's DVR volume bar. It doesn't matter what number I change, it's the same sound). By the way, I have the new remote with two buttons (TV and CABLE). Is there anyway to control the volume with Verizon's remote?

Thanks.
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post #5209 of 8301
2/2/13 at 8:52pm
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The AVR can only play what it receives. Ensure the PS3 is set to "bitstream" and not "LPCM".

I changed it to bitstream but it's still got the 'multi ch in' option. Does this mean it's still feeding pcm to my 3313?
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post #5210 of 8301
2/2/13 at 9:05pm
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I changed it to bitstream but it's still got the 'multi ch in' option. Does this mean it's still feeding pcm to my 3313?

Do you have one of the older, or PS3 phats? If so, it can only output PCM for the HD codecs which would give you that multi ch in display. It will be the same sound, just decoded by the PS3 instead of the Denon so you won't see that wonderful HD or Master display. smile.gif
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post #5211 of 8301
2/2/13 at 9:31pm
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I changed it to bitstream but it's still got the 'multi ch in' option. Does this mean it's still feeding pcm to my 3313?

Do you have one of the older, or PS3 phats? If so, it can only output PCM for the HD codecs which would give you that multi ch in display. It will be the same sound, just decoded by the PS3 instead of the Denon so you won't see that wonderful HD or Master display.

I'm sorry I didn't specify. I have a Panasonic DMP-BDT220P. It was free with my Plasma back in august. It's a cheap entry level obviously.
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post #5212 of 8301
2/2/13 at 11:52pm
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I changed it to bitstream but it's still got the 'multi ch in' option. Does this mean it's still feeding pcm to my 3313?

Hi jlpowell84, set the bluray player to "Bitstream" and also turn Secondary Audio to "off".
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post #5213 of 8301
2/3/13 at 12:10am
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Hi jlpowell84, set the bluray player to "Bitstream" and also turn Secondary Audio to "off".

Thanks, that was it...
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post #5214 of 8301
2/3/13 at 12:11am
What kind of blu ray players do you all have? How do you like it compared to the typical $80 one? Why?
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post #5215 of 8301
2/3/13 at 1:13am
Am having a problem with pass through on my 2113.
If i have the amp set up to last which would be my ideal setting then i can only use it once without then having to switch the amp on to get sound through my tv speakers again. Example being this, having my playstation running as my last source I can then switch the amp off and fire up the playstation and it will work with my tv speakers. But if I turn the playstation off and switch it back on again I dont get a signal and when i switch the amp on it will be on tv audio channel which i am guessing was the last channel it was on for audio through the tv. Is there a way round this ?
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post #5216 of 8301
2/3/13 at 2:16am
I have a Denon DBT1713 blu-ray player connected by HDMI to my AVR2313. I have a 7.1 setup. When I listen to a CD using the HDMI and mixed through all my speakers, in addition to the music there is a faint high pitched background sound emited from the speakers. When I watch a blu-ray, there is a slightly lower pitch background sound coming from the speakers (noticeable during quieter parts of the film).

I have tried disconnecting all other devices (including subwoofer), changing HDMI cables, and even changing the power source all to no avail.

I have notuced that the background noise is NOT there if I listen to a CD using audio cables instead of HDMI, or if I set the blu-ray player to PCM (rather than Bitstream) and watch a blu-ray, nor is it present if I use my Panasonic HDD player set to bitstream. However if I use my old Panasonic bluray player a similar (but fainter) noise can be heard. Both my DBT1713 and AVR2313 have up to date Firmware. I have run out of ideas of what is causing this problem. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Edited by BuffmanUK - 2/3/13 at 4:13am
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post #5217 of 8301
2/3/13 at 2:17am
Hi, currently I own a 2010 Sony Bravia TV set and a Denon 2113. Connected through HDMI. I also have connected an XBOX360, TviX mediabox and my UPC mediabox.

How do I configure that if I turn on the TV, my Denon is automatically turned on at the same HDMI input?
And, vice versa, when I shut off the last HDMI device, the Denon goes into standby mode?

Any help appreciated.

DJR.
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post #5218 of 8301
2/3/13 at 5:06am
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

I changed it to bitstream but it's still got the 'multi ch in' option. Does this mean it's still feeding pcm to my 3313?

As a reminder, this question and many more troubleshooting tips are answered in the troubleshooting guide linked in my sig. smile.gif
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post #5219 of 8301
2/3/13 at 5:12am
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Am having a problem with pass through on my 2113.
If i have the amp set up to last which would be my ideal setting then i can only use it once without then having to switch the amp on to get sound through my tv speakers again. Example being this, having my playstation running as my last source I can then switch the amp off and fire up the playstation and it will work with my tv speakers. But if I turn the playstation off and switch it back on again I dont get a signal and when i switch the amp on it will be on tv audio channel which i am guessing was the last channel it was on for audio through the tv. Is there a way round this ?

By "tv audio channel" are you referring to the ARC feature or are you referring to the audio from your cable/sat box? If the former try turning the HDMI-CEC feature (eg. Anynet+, BraviaSync, VierraLink, etc.) on the TV to OFF. When devices are powered off, they often must be powered on in a specific order to initiate a proper HDMI handshake ... TV, wait a few sec, AVR, wait a few sec, and then source device. If you power off the PS3, then ensure all devices are powered off as well before powering on the TV and source again.
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post #5220 of 8301
2/3/13 at 5:31am
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Originally Posted by BuffmanUK View Post

I have a Denon DBT1713 blu-ray player connected by HDMI to my AVR2313. I have a 7.1 setup. When I listen to a CD using the HDMI and mixed through all my speakers, in addition to the music there is a faint high pitched background sound emited from the speakers. When I watch a blu-ray, there is a slightly lower pitch background sound coming from the speakers (noticeable during quieter parts of the film).

I have tried disconnecting all other devices (including subwoofer), changing HDMI cables, and even changing the power source all to no avail.

I have notuced that the background noise is NOT there if I listen to a CD using audio cables instead of HDMI, or if I set the blu-ray player to PCM (rather than Bitstream) and watch a blu-ray, nor is it present if I use my Panasonic HDD player set to bitstream. However if I use my old Panasonic bluray player a similar (but fainter) noise can be heard. Both my DBT1713 and AVR2313 have up to date Firmware. I have run out of ideas of what is causing this problem. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks

Try connecting the 1713 to each of the other HDMI inputs on the AVR to see if you get the same result. If not, leave it in that HDMI input. If yes, then the issue either lies with the DBT 1713 or the 2313CI. As you have a work around to resolve the issue (ie setting DBT1713 to PCM) you can either stick with that or perhaps try exchanging the 2313CI. The PCM setting results in no loss in audio quality.
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