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post #7261 of 10465
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Originally Posted by midfiman View Post


If I go this route, will the passthrough work in such a fashion that I can get both audio and video on my Panny TV without turning the receiver on (but I can turn it on if I wish to)? Is that what passthrough will allow me to do? This is key as I don't always want to have surround sound on everytime I want to watch tv or perhaps even watch a movie or play a game.

I have a 1613 with Verizon FIOS, but the 2113 will work the same. Yes, pass through will work as you say, when you turn the receiver off, the pass through device is connected to the HDMI output. You have a choice of setting it to the last selected input, or a specific input, in this case the cable box.
post #7262 of 10465
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. Cannot, unless you use a 3rd party remote (eg. Harmony). Also note that it's the AVR that sets the speaker/sub levels, not Audyssey.

Thank you for your response. I have a Harmony 1100 that would be using when watching movies/TV in surround so perfect!
post #7263 of 10465
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Originally Posted by shashchatter View Post

I have a 1613 with Verizon FIOS, but the 2113 will work the same. Yes, pass through will work as you say, when you turn the receiver off, the pass through device is connected to the HDMI output. You have a choice of setting it to the last selected input, or a specific input, in this case the cable box.

Thank you for your reply. I'm a little confused. So if I have 3 sources into the Denon via HDMI and then HDMI out from the Denon to the TV, let's say I turn on the xbox and then the TV, i'm assuming the picture/audio will automatically go to the TV. Then, if I turn the xbox off and then turn on the cable box, will the pass through "functionality" in the denon be smart enough to take the signal from the source that is on and send it to the TV, even though the receiver is off?

Thanks!
post #7264 of 10465
^^
Nope. Your choice is either the "Last" source used before the AVR was powered to Standby (eg. cable box) or a specific source every time (eg. cable box).
post #7265 of 10465
Just came in to say that i love the DENON service!!

Like a month ago i came in this thread asking for advice because my denon 2113ci was making a humming/hissing noise.
I didn't find a solution myself so i had to sent it back in.

2 weeks later the storemanager calls me up to inform me that the part that needs to be replaced is not in stock.... It may take a few months to get my receiver back!! YAY

The solution Denon offered was to give me the new system :-) the avr X2000.
Now i still have to wait a few weeks but i'll get a brand new system :-)

Now i have 1 question:

I am using 5.1 Wharfedale DX1 HCP (4ohm) in the main listening area. Could i use 8ohm speakers in zone 2? Or do they need to be 4 ohm as well?

Thx in advance!!

7.1 at 4 ohm might be to much for this receiver right? 5.1 is no problem. Doesn't get too hot and plays very good!
post #7266 of 10465
The Denon AVR is not designed to power 4-ohm speakers although should be able to do it at moderate volume levels so you're much better served connecting 8-ohm speakers than 4-ohm speakers in either zone. You may also need to run the Zone 2 speakers with an external 2CH amp if powering both main and Zone 2 at the same time with those 4-ohm main zone speakers so keep that in mind if the AVR shuts down in protection mode.
post #7267 of 10465
Slight bit of weirdness tonight with the 3313.

Set up is as follows.

All sources connected via HDMI to 3313
Audio running from 3313 to external amp via pre outs
Amp comes on via trigger one on the 3313
Oppo 103 connected (HDMI out 1) direct to PJ for video and 3313 for audio (HDMI out 2 as well as video to tv)
3313 set to HDMI video output set to Auto(dual)

Was watching tv (TiVo) and everything was normal, switched from watching TiVo to watch a movie on the PJ and suddenly only had sub, no audio from the speakers.
I realised that the amp had gone off so figured it might be a trigger problem.
Had to roll the PJ screen up and us the tv to see the 3313 settings (no 3313 seetings display on the pj as video running direct from the Oppo) as soon as I swithced the tv on I had audio again.confused.gif

I have set the 3313 to output video from output 1 only and that seems to work, I can't work out why it worked one minute but not the next???


Edit: I remembered I had done a FW upgrade on the 3313 since I last used the pj, so got me thinking whether I should perhaps do a reset of the 3313, that done I now seem to have fixed the problem.
Edited by Kazz063 - 4/19/13 at 5:49pm
post #7268 of 10465
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

This feature was added via a firmware update so ensure the unit has the most current firmware installed.

I have done the update. I'm thinking it might be my Synology NAS. Maybe their built in DLNA server doesn't support gapless? I do have the option to use the Logitech Media Server on my NAS. I'll give that one a try tonight and see if it works. Are there any other Synology users out there? Is gapless working for you?

Thanks!
post #7269 of 10465
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Originally Posted by jaycam View Post

I have done the update. I'm thinking it might be my Synology NAS. Maybe their built in DLNA server doesn't support gapless? I do have the option to use the Logitech Media Server on my NAS. I'll give that one a try tonight and see if it works. Are there any other Synology users out there? Is gapless working for you?

Thanks!

You're using Audio Station? Unless something has recently changed it does not support gapless.
post #7270 of 10465
Thank you sirs. I am going to go ahead and get the Niles amp switcher which I had considered with previous AVRs. This method may create an even better surround sound anyway. (I have PSB Goldi speakers up front which I hope the Denon will be able to push acceptably. It should help that they will be in "small" mode in surround sound.)
post #7271 of 10465
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

The Denon AVR is not designed to power 4-ohm speakers although should be able to do it at moderate volume levels so you're much better served connecting 8-ohm speakers than 4-ohm speakers in either zone. You may also need to run the Zone 2 speakers with an external 2CH amp if powering both main and Zone 2 at the same time with those 4-ohm main zone speakers so keep that in mind if the AVR shuts down in protection mode.

So that means that i am allowed to try having 4 ohm speakers in main and 8 ohm in zone 2?It's not like it will break the speakers? As long as the receiver doesn't go in protection mode it al good right?

Sorry for the dumb questions btw. I'm new to this.
Thx in advance
post #7272 of 10465
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Originally Posted by Mr YuYu View Post

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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

The Denon AVR is not designed to power 4-ohm speakers although should be able to do it at moderate volume levels so you're much better served connecting 8-ohm speakers than 4-ohm speakers in either zone. You may also need to run the Zone 2 speakers with an external 2CH amp if powering both main and Zone 2 at the same time with those 4-ohm main zone speakers so keep that in mind if the AVR shuts down in protection mode.

So that means that i am allowed to try having 4 ohm speakers in main and 8 ohm in zone 2?It's not like it will break the speakers? As long as the receiver doesn't go in protection mode it al good right?

Sorry for the dumb questions btw. I'm new to this.
Thx in advance

I'm driving 1 pair of 4 Ohm Heresy II (some say really 8) 1 pair 6 Ohm, 1 pair 8 Ohm, plus a 8 Ohm Center with my 3312 no problems.

Of course, your experience may vary...
post #7273 of 10465
I have a 2113 that's been set up and running for about 10 days now. I finally got around to the music side of things. Airplay is working fine from Itunes on my windows PC as well as my wife's Iphone 4s, and both our original ipad and ipad 2. However, it's been really inconsistent on my iphone 5. It works sometimes but more often than not the airplay icon doesn't show on the screen. I tried power cycling the phone and turning the wifi on and off but none of that seems to work. It just randomly works or doesn't work without any rhyme or reason. I figure it has to be the phone and not the router or AVR because all our other devices work without any problems.

Anyone have any suggestions?
post #7274 of 10465
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

I'm driving 1 pair of 4 Ohm Heresy II (some say really 8) 1 pair 6 Ohm, 1 pair 8 Ohm, plus a 8 Ohm Center with my 3312 no problems.

Of course, your experience may vary...

So having your receiver handle speakers with a different value in ohms is no problem. So i can f.e. Buy 2, 8 ohm towers and that wouldn't be a problem? I thought i read somewhere it was not allowed. Good news for me!
post #7275 of 10465
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

The Denon AVR is not designed to power 4-ohm speakers although should be able to do it at moderate volume levels so you're much better served connecting 8-ohm speakers than 4-ohm speakers in either zone.

I hope 4 Ohms isn't a problem, because my speakers are 4 Ohms.
Edited by ShadowJ20 - 4/19/13 at 11:27am
post #7276 of 10465
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Originally Posted by Kadath View Post

Right, that's what I've got my older receiver set to. How do I enable that on a 3313?

Anyone? How do I set LFE+Main on the 3313? Don't see it in the menu.
post #7277 of 10465
LFE+Main is in the Manual Setup menu's Bass setting.
(See page 131 in the owner's manual)
post #7278 of 10465
Thread Starter 
Kadath - since the manual is a PDF it's easiest to use the text search tool to find a keyword that you are looking for if you can't find it on your own.
post #7279 of 10465
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Originally Posted by ShadowJ20 View Post

I hope 4 Ohms isn't a problem, because my speakers are 4 Ohms.

The denon 2113 seems to drive my 5.1 wharfedale dx1 hcp( 4 ohm) without a problem. Maybe the problems will start with a 7.1 setup. I dunno :-/
post #7280 of 10465
Thank ya, I'm sure I looked there but will try again.
post #7281 of 10465
I own a 2113ci and will be moving home from campus soon. I currently have my 2113 pluggged directly into my router via ethernet cord.
However, at home my router is at least 100ft away from my room. What is the recommended wireless adapter for denon recievers?
Direct links to the product would be most appreciated

thanks!

Dave
post #7282 of 10465
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Originally Posted by kingdavid21 View Post

I own a 2113ci and will be moving home from campus soon. I currently have my 2113 pluggged directly into my router via ethernet cord.
However, at home my router is at least 100ft away from my room. What is the recommended wireless adapter for denon recievers?
Direct links to the product would be most appreciated

thanks!

Dave
http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/access-points-range-extenders-and-bridges/dap-1522-xtreme-n-duo-wireless-n-access-point

That's what I used and it works great. That said, I use a D-Link router and it's nowhere near 100 feet away.

Powerline adapter is your other choice.
post #7283 of 10465
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Originally Posted by Mr YuYu View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

I'm driving 1 pair of 4 Ohm Heresy II (some say really 8) 1 pair 6 Ohm, 1 pair 8 Ohm, plus a 8 Ohm Center with my 3312 no problems.

Of course, your experience may vary...

So having your receiver handle speakers with a different value in ohms is no problem. So i can f.e. Buy 2, 8 ohm towers and that wouldn't be a problem? I thought i read somewhere it was not allowed. Good news for me!

Some say the Klipsch Heresy II are really 8 Ohm; nevertheless, I ran U2 Rattle & Hum @ 81 the whole way through not even warm over normal. Ymmv
post #7284 of 10465
Thread Starter 
Also remember that:

(1) impedance is not constant, it will vary depending on the frequency response.... a speaker may be rated as 4 ohms nominal because it dips down there at a certain point, but the overall shape of the impedance curve may not be that "difficult"
(2) impedance is only one factor in the big picture... room size, volume level, and speaker sensitivity also are very important. Klipsch speakers are very sensitive so even with the low impedance the receiver may not have to sustain much current to jam at high volumes.
post #7285 of 10465
True dat
post #7286 of 10465
I just got my speaker wires from Monoprice, I connected the receiver to my PC via HDMI. The HDMI from my PC is through my graphic card. I'm not getting any sound. Anyone can help?

I did check under playback devices and it said "Denon AVR-1" with a check mark. And when I'm playing a video the bar does increase up and down..but no sound.

My Graphic card is an EVGA 660 TI.
Edited by ShadowJ20 - 4/19/13 at 8:59pm
post #7287 of 10465
Nevermind, I just didn't turn up the volume loud enough to hear LOL.

A couple more questions, HTPC how do you get to the GUI?

And when I'm playing a blu ray how come I'm getting no dialogue? Is it because my setup currently a 2.0?
Edited by ShadowJ20 - 4/19/13 at 11:26pm
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post #7289 of 10465
I have the denon 2113 and have to really crank up the volume to get to a normal level on a 5.1 setup. Can anyone please tell me what volume level gives a decent volume and what level is it when its loud for you.
Thanks
post #7290 of 10465
Average volume level for TV listening is usually 50 (or -30db) to 60 (or -20db) with movie listening a little louder at 60 (or -20db) to 70 (or -10db). You will generally have to get to at least 50% of max to get any moderate level volume as modern AVRs generally use a logarithmic volume scale.
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