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post #7471 of 10468
Huh? Let me highlight it for you .....
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Correct, with the capability to play up to 9CH at once. Just as the 3313CI has 11 speaker posts but is only capable of 7 CH at once.
post #7472 of 10468
it's NOT necessarily the same thing, but, I get what you're saying...I was asking about multi-channel output, which you equal to play... cool.gifrolleyes.gifwink.gifbiggrin.gif

so, in this case, it is the same...
Edited by SanchoPanza - 4/27/13 at 9:15am
post #7473 of 10468
Thread Starter 
The distinction you are apparently making is totally lost on me.
post #7474 of 10468
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

The distinction you are apparently making is totally lost on me.

yeah, and on top of all that. it's in the wrong thread biggrin.gif
post #7475 of 10468
If I use the preouts on my 3313, are the speaker posts still hot? I guess what I need to know what are the internal amps doing if I use the 3313 as a preamp only?
post #7476 of 10468
Thread Starter 
yes they are still "hot" but they sit there idle as there will be no resistance and thus no load.
post #7477 of 10468
Actually you have infinite resistance; open circuit represents no load.
post #7478 of 10468
So it won't harm the amps with no speakers hooked up to them?
post #7479 of 10468
Yes-it will not harm the amplifiers
post #7480 of 10468
Question about Audio Formats showing up on the display.

2113

I only have a few blu-ray disks and most say on the covers Dolby Digital True HD or DTS HD Master Audio. Some even say Dolby Digital Lossless. But all the movies I have only show as Dolby Digital or DTS on the front of my Denon.

I know it's not my blu-ray player as I have 1 music blu-ray disk and that shows up on my Denon as DTS-HD MA and sound amazing.

Are most film miss labeled?

Or do I need to do something on my blu-ray player?

When the movies are playing if I bring up the audio info in the blu-ray player menus it says DTS-HD MA 5.1 etc. So it look like it can read it.

If the Denon does not say the right format does it mean I'm missing some of the audio.

For example Tron Legacy just says DTS on my Denon I would have though it should say DTS-HD MA
post #7481 of 10468
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Originally Posted by raymate View Post

Question about Audio Formats showing up on the display.

2113

I only have a few blu-ray disks and most say on the covers Dolby Digital True HD or DTS HD Master Audio. Some even say Dolby Digital Lossless. But all the movies I have only show as Dolby Digital or DTS on the front of my Denon.

I know it's not my blu-ray player as I have 1 music blu-ray disk and that shows up on my Denon as DTS-HD MA and sound amazing.

Are most film miss labeled?

Or do I need to do something on my blu-ray player?

When the movies are playing if I bring up the audio info in the blu-ray player menus it says DTS-HD MA 5.1 etc. So it look like it can read it.

If the Denon does not say the right format does it mean I'm missing some of the audio.

For example Tron Legacy just says DTS on my Denon I would have though it should say DTS-HD MA
You need to select TrueHD or DTS HD in the audio setup menu in the movie menu. Also make sure that your BD players audio settings setup to passtrough the sound.
post #7482 of 10468
Can anyone explain to me exactly how the three video modes on the 1913 are different.

Also video conversion on/off and I/p scaler?

What's the verdict on the "enhancer" in picture settings?

Got my 1913 a few months ago and just got a panny st60 trying to get the most out of my panel.

Any info would help
post #7483 of 10468
Any one with upgrade from 3808ci to 3313? What is your take and experience?
post #7484 of 10468
^^
This would only be an upgrade in "features" as the 3313CI offers the same version of Audyssey MultEQ XT as does the 3808CI which is actually a better built model. The 4520CI is the current successor to the 3808CI although if you don't need the additional features on the 4520CI, you would be much better served looking at the new X4000 (late May/June release) that replaces the 3313CI as it uses the same more advanced version of Audyssey MultEQ XT32 as does the 4520CI.
Edited by jdsmoothie - 4/29/13 at 3:19am
post #7485 of 10468
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Originally Posted by biggweeziehd View Post

Can anyone explain to me exactly how the three video modes on the 1913 are different.

Also video conversion on/off and I/p scaler?

What's the verdict on the "enhancer" in picture settings?

Got my 1913 a few months ago and just got a panny st60 trying to get the most out of my panel.

Any info would help

Video is rarely if ever discussed in these threads as most likely simply either use the factory default settings or pass the video through unmolested letting either the source or the TV handle the processing. Unless there is an issue with video lag (eg. gaming), "Video Mode" is generally best left at it's factory default of "Auto" otherwise, for gaming, it can be set to "Game". Video Conversion converts analog --> HDMI and must be enabled for the GUI/OSD to overlay on the source video and the "i/p Scaler" is the scaler function as described in the manual.
post #7486 of 10468
hi everyone, so i got the Monitor 75T and the 25C, probably going to get 45B or maybe 55 for surrounds. anyways i need some suggestions on a receiver. i'm thinking about the 2113CI and accessories4less has it at 399.99 for refurbished. i would probably get the 3 year warranty to add for $35. i called bhphotovideo and they have it brand new for $509.99. any suggestions on which you would do? i tested the 1913 but from many people, they said the MultiEQ XT is worth the upgrade to 2113CI.
post #7487 of 10468
Thread Starter 
Personally, I would get the new model for the extra ~$70. Might as well have peace of mind there. If you will have this for 3-5 years the incremental cost is a drop in the bucket.

If you will never go beyond 5.1 and/or use Zone 2 I would probably save money and get the 1713 instead.
post #7488 of 10468
I tried both onkyo 818 and denon 3313ci. For 2 channel music, pure direct mode, the onkyo is inferior to the denon 3313ci when powering my Usher be-718. The Denon has stronger bass, more instruments separation, and more refined than the onkyo. If you've been undecided between the 2 models and 2 channel direct mode music is important to you, the Denon is a no brainer. My 2 cents. smile.gif
post #7489 of 10468
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Personally, I would get the new model for the extra ~$70. Might as well have peace of mind there. If you will have this for 3-5 years the incremental cost is a drop in the bucket.

If you will never go beyond 5.1 and/or use Zone 2 I would probably save money and get the 1713 instead.

yeah thanks for advice. i like the features of the video upscaling of the 2113ci compared to the 1713. sorry haven't looked as much in this forum but would the 2113ci let me bi-amp the front speakers? and in doing so, this would make the front two speakers sound clearer correct?
post #7490 of 10468
Thread Starter 
Yes, it lets you bi-amp using the two assignable (S.Back) amp channels, but no, it doesn't actually yield any audible improvement. It's more of a marketing feature for people who are worried about "wasting" two amp channels in a 5.1 setup than anything actually useful.
post #7491 of 10468
I was able to use mine for volume. Using the ARC and HDMI control, I could also turn it on and off.
I didn't try anything beyond that though, sorry.
If it helps, I'm pretty sure it was all done over HDMI control.
post #7492 of 10468
I have joined the club. Just picked up my 2313CI from costco last night. They had it going for 769 and saw it for 499. Couldn't resist.
post #7493 of 10468
Wadda deal! Congrats! cool.gif
post #7494 of 10468
All -

Back in October '12 I posted a request for advice on receivers to consider as part of a home renovation. I ended up getting the Denon AVR 3313ci. So far, so good. It was just installed and hooked up by the a/v contractor. My question is about using the Air Play functionality. Do I need to purchase Apple's Apple TV or an AirPort in order to use the Air Play feature? I assume not, but it's really not all that clear to me.

Also, is there anywhere on this board a quick and easy tutorial for setting up Air Play on the Denon? The instructions are for crap - natch.

Thanks for your help!

ANCyM71
post #7495 of 10468
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Originally Posted by thehabs24 View Post

I have joined the club. Just picked up my 2313CI from costco last night. They had it going for 769 and saw it for 499. Couldn't resist.

wow which costco is this? i might have to check out my local one. don't really need to additional features but if it's cheaper than the 2113CI, why not. got a receipt? was it 769 original then had a sale price for 499?
post #7496 of 10468
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Originally Posted by jlpowell84 View Post

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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Thread here: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-avr-model-owners-thread-faq

They have been rebranded from the current numbering scheme, the lower level models (replacing 1513, 1613, 1913) have been redubbed the "E-Series" and have already been released.

The "CI" models are being replaced by the "X-Series" and will be formally announced soon.

The most exciting bit of news is that the 3313 replacement (X4000) will have MulTEQ XT32 with SubEQ dual sub calibration, DTS Neo:X added as an option to DSX for wide/height processing, and the ability to expand to 9 channels simultaneously with an external amp.

What! That is awesome! Too bad I just bought a 3313 a few months back. XT 32 and 9 instead of 7 would be cool. But honestly you got to draw the spending line somewhere right? To some of you yes I know that answer is no...

Any word on pricing on this batpig?

When and where?
post #7497 of 10468
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
This would only be an upgrade in "features" as the 3313CI offers the same version of Audyssey MultEQ XT as does the 3808CI which is actually a better built model. The 4520CI is the current successor to the 3808CI although if you don't need the additional features on the 4520CI, you would be much better served looking at the new X4000 (late May/June release) that replaces the 3313CI as it uses the same more advanced version of Audyssey MultEQ XT32 as does the 4520CI.
I totally agree with you. I was a upgrade freak till I got 3808ci never looked else where since then.
Thanks
post #7498 of 10468
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by ancym71 View Post

All -

Back in October '12 I posted a request for advice on receivers to consider as part of a home renovation. I ended up getting the Denon AVR 3313ci. So far, so good. It was just installed and hooked up by the a/v contractor. My question is about using the Air Play functionality. Do I need to purchase Apple's Apple TV or an AirPort in order to use the Air Play feature? I assume not, but it's really not all that clear to me.

Also, is there anywhere on this board a quick and easy tutorial for setting up Air Play on the Denon? The instructions are for crap - natch.

Thanks for your help!

ANCyM71

AirPlay is built into the receiver, so you don't need to purchase additional gear. There is nothing to "set up" beyond the initial network connection. Once the receiver is hooked up to your home network, it should automatically show up as one of the available "AirPlay Speakers" when you tap/click the Airplay icon in iTunes or on an iDevice that is connected to the same network. If your receiver is connected to the network, but it doesn't show up as an available AirPlay speaker, then you should check out the troubleshooting tips at the beginning of this thread. Usually it's some weird conflict with a setting on your router.
post #7499 of 10468
Thanks, Batpig - that's a big help. I rather figured I didn't any more gadgets. I'll be spending some time this weekend setting it all up.

ANCyM71
post #7500 of 10468
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Originally Posted by thehabs24 View Post

I have joined the club. Just picked up my 2313CI from costco last night. They had it going for 769 and saw it for 499. Couldn't resist.
That's insane! I checked their prices Sunday on TVs and AVRs and I didn't see anything that stood out. That sucks cause its supposedly the largest Costco in NA, you'd think they'd have it all.

Nice deal man, way to score.
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