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post #8491 of 10468
Thx Bat and Net
post #8492 of 10468
Help!!

When I received my 2113ci 6 months ago, I turned off the Dynamic EQ and Dynamic Volume controls ( forgot how I did that), and now, when I go to the Audyssey subscreen under Audio, the Audyssey Multi XT bar is lit up, but not the others in that menu, so I can't turn them back on.

How do I get them back on?
post #8493 of 10468
Thread Starter 
All Audyssey settings are controlled in the GUI under the AUDIO menu (in the Audyssey submenu).

You can also change these settings pretty easily using the web browser interface.

They "layer" on each other, so Dyn EQ will not be available unless the EQ setting is on one of the Audyssey curves (Audyssey, Flat, or Bypass) and Dyn Vol will not be available unless Dyn EQ is on.

Note also that all settings in the Audyssey submenu are memorized separately by INPUT. So the BD input can have different settings than the SAT/CBL input.
post #8494 of 10468
Hello, I'm asking for some help on an new receiver set up.I am about to replace my current receiver with a Denon AVR-1913. My current set up is: Pioneer VSX-1020, 6 Definitive pro800s, a Definitive Pro 1000 for center and REL T3 Sub with Neutrik and .LFE both connected. T3 location and settings are optimized for my room per REL instructions. I have never used Audyssey set up before. Should I connect Neutrik before running Audyssey or after? Also should I use the settings I made when adjusting the REL to my room per the REL instructions, such as volume and crossover setting, or change to settings suggested in Denon manual for Audyssey set up? Finally, if Audyssey ends up setting my speakers to small, do I need to override and change to large to get the advantage of Neutrik connection. My goal: my current connection and settings work GREAT for movies and I don't want to loose that sound! Thanks very much.
post #8495 of 10468
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Originally Posted by miketh54 View Post

Hello, I'm asking for some help on an new receiver set up.I am about to replace my current receiver with a Denon AVR-1913. My current set up is: Pioneer VSX-1020, 6 Definitive pro800s, a Definitive Pro 1000 for center and REL T3 Sub with Neutrik and .LFE both connected. T3 location and settings are optimized for my room per REL instructions. I have never used Audyssey set up before. Should I connect Neutrik before running Audyssey or after?
There's no longer any need to use the Neutrik connection at all. It's for use when you're going to be using the frequency controls provided by the subwoofer to do bass management. When using an external audio processor (in this case the Denon receiver), the bass management is done by that processor. The only connection between the receiver and the subwoofer would be the "LFE" subwoofer cable. That subwoofer cable will be carrying both the LFE audio and the low frequencies from all of your other speaker channels -- front, center and surround-sound.
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Also should I use the settings I made when adjusting the REL to my room per the REL instructions, such as volume and crossover setting, or change to settings suggested in Denon manual for Audyssey set up?
Again, the receiver will be doing the bass management. You should disable all of the frequency management provided in the subwoofer. I.e. set the sub's crossover control to its upper limit. It will no longer be used to match the subwoofer's upper frequency limit with the speakers' native lower frequency limit. Instead, the receiver will be removing low frequencies from the outputs connected to the speakers and will be redirecting them to the subwoofer. As a result, the low frequency limits imposed by the speakers become irrelevant. You no longer have to worry about matching the subwoofer to them.
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Finally, if Audyssey ends up setting my speakers to small, do I need to override and change to large to get the advantage of Neutrik connection.
No. Doing so would minimize the advantages of using Audyssey. All speakers should be set to Small. Let the receiver do the bass management.
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My goal: my current connection and settings work GREAT for movies and I don't want to loose that sound! Thanks very much.

In most cases, the room and speaker equalization provided by Audyssey produce superior sound when compared to audio systems which have no such equalization. You do have to follow certain guidelines in order to get the best performance, though. The instructions included in the receiver manual are over-simplified and inadequate. Please take the time to read the Audyssey 101 and FAQ at http://www.avsforum.com/t/795421/official-audyssey-thread-faq-in-post-1/51750#post_21782993

One very important point is to use a real boom-microphone stand, which only costs about $20.
post #8496 of 10468
Wow, thanks very much. All this makes much sense. Already went to Audyssey 101 link and am finding a world of info to get me going correctly. Thanks again.
post #8497 of 10468
Hello,

Just picked up a 3313CI and I am slowly figuring it out. Is there a way to get video from my ipad to play through the 3313? I was hopeful it would work through the ipod/USB connection on the front, but I only get audio from any video I play.

Thanks
post #8498 of 10468
USB is audio only. Use either an Apple Digital AV adapter cable or an Apple TV.

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Digital-AV-Adapter-MC953ZM/dp/B004QK5N5W
post #8499 of 10468
I thought I would share the workaround I'm using to resolve HDMI connectivity issues I was having. I'd fire up my projector, try to play a video, and would experience terrible stuttering. Sometimes I would just get a blue screen on my projector (no video connection). I tried the EDID fixes elsewhere on avsforum, but they didn't work for me. I reboot of the HTPC would always cure the issue, but that was a pain, so I played around to and came up with this workaround.

My setup is: Win 7 HTPC with nvidia GT430 video->AVR-2313CI->Sanyo PLV-Z2000 projector. I also run EventGhost to allow me to run scripts, change inputs, and other HTPC automation tasks.

My workaround: My projector has about a 20 second warm up period. I use this time to "rescan" the hardware in the device manager. It takes about 9 seconds to run, but I don't notice it as I'm waiting for my projector to warm up. Touch wood, it has been working for a couple of weeks now and no blue screens.

Specific details. I press the TV on button on my remote and EventGhost picks that up and:
  1. Powers on the 2313CI
  2. Powers on the projector
  3. Waits 1 second. (allows the AVR time to power up.)
  4. run "devcon.exe rescan" on Windows
  5. wait 8 seconds (allows time for the rescan to complete. this could possibly be reduced by a second or two. I had issues when I started testing with 4 seconds so I just bumped it up to 8.)
  6. start xbmc
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devcon.exe is available for Windows 7 for free from microsoft as part of the Windows Drivers Kit.

That's it. Hopefully it helps someone else having troubles.
post #8500 of 10468
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

All Audyssey settings are controlled in the GUI under the AUDIO menu (in the Audyssey submenu).

You can also change these settings pretty easily using the web browser interface.

They "layer" on each other, so Dyn EQ will not be available unless the EQ setting is on one of the Audyssey curves (Audyssey, Flat, or Bypass) and Dyn Vol will not be available unless Dyn EQ is on.

I don't seem to be able to change the MultiEQ from Audyssey to flat in the settings in the web interface. When I try to change to Audyssey flat the web page refreshes and it reverts to Audyssey. Am I trying to change the wrong setting?

Do I have to start in the on screen setup rather than the web interface?

I have never been able to find the equalizer (I don't think I have ever seen it since I bought the AVR.)
post #8501 of 10468
Well, back again after a few more days of tolerating the handshake issues. Today I tried unplugging the HDMI from the AVR to my TV and still had issues. Then swapped to a brand new high-speed HDMI cable from the AVR to TV -- still issues. My final attempt is to perform the HDMI reset procedure and keep my fingers crossed, although I have to say at this point I am not optimistic.

Everything was working fine for over six months and then all of a sudden these random AV dropouts from all sources. Very frustrating. Couldn't of been a firmware update from Denon, could it? If this doesn't work, i am truly at a loss. And the worst part is that we use our AppleTV a lot and when it happens with this source, playback stops and must be restarted with the remote! mad.gif
post #8502 of 10468
Does the AppleTV work connected to a 2113 HDMI only? Nevermind works fine.Just needed to get the correct input assignments
Edited by Lagwagon - 7/4/13 at 2:37pm
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Originally Posted by oak1a View Post

Well, back again after a few more days of tolerating the handshake issues. Today I tried unplugging the HDMI from the AVR to my TV and still had issues. Then swapped to a brand new high-speed HDMI cable from the AVR to TV -- still issues. My final attempt is to perform the HDMI reset procedure and keep my fingers crossed, although I have to say at this point I am not optimistic.

Everything was working fine for over six months and then all of a sudden these random AV dropouts from all sources. Very frustrating. Couldn't of been a firmware update from Denon, could it? If this doesn't work, i am truly at a loss. And the worst part is that we use our AppleTV a lot and when it happens with this source, playback stops and must be restarted with the remote! mad.gif

If available try another port on your tv. If still no luck go to pg. 1, post #3 of this forum and click on trouble shooting tips as there are some helpful remedies there to try.
post #8504 of 10468
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Originally Posted by spager View Post

If available try another port on your tv. If still no luck go to pg. 1, post #3 of this forum and click on trouble shooting tips as there are some helpful remedies there to try.

Ya know, I'm starting to wonder if it's a temperature issue. I didn't leave much space above the AVR -- probably only about 3/4 inch. The problems started mid in May. I'm located in Ohio, so that's about the time the AC went on, and my indoor temps started averaging over 70 degrees. Seems the first dropout wouldn't occur until after the AVR was on for a good hour or more and then they would occur with more and more frequency.

Well, I dropped the shelf down so I now have about a 3 inch space above AVR and so far so good. Of course, I also did the HDMI reset procedure as outlined in the troubleshooting tips at the same time this afternoon, but I'm beginning to wonder if the heat was creating the issue. Anyone else ever experience this?
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Overheating does cause problems. If it lasts for too long, it'll shorten the life of the electronics and cause permanent damage. Quite a few people use USB-powered fans when they can't provide enough space for ventilation. 3" really isn't enough.
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I recall seeing a post a ways back that lists compatible powerline adapters – add the Belkin Videolink 3 to that list (at least for the 1613). I initially didn’t set a static IP for the AVR and the network connection worked sporadically, but after setting a static IP yesterday the connection seems more stable.
post #8507 of 10468
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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

Overheating does cause problems. If it lasts for too long, it'll shorten the life of the electronics and cause permanent damage. Quite a few people use USB-powered fans when they can't provide enough space for ventilation. 3" really isn't enough.

Once only I had a display issue that I attributed to heat. There was no way to verify that it was heat related.

I had been streaming .flac files from my network drive to the Denon for at least a half hour. It was early summer and our air conditioning was not on that day.

I have 2.5 inches between my 2313CI and the glass above it. I plan to install a USB powered cooler some time this year.

On another topic, has anyone noticed that their access to the Internet has been slowed when their Denon It's streaming content? I think I may need a better router .
post #8508 of 10468
3313CI here. Is there some sort of trick to getting Pandora to work. I was able to find where to input my email and password using the GUI and also the web control. When I finally get it in there and press OK, the screen will flash blank then back to where it asks for a password. I logged in on my laptop just to make sure I was using the correct email and password and it worked fine on there.

EDIT: just saw the info in post 3 about updating the firmware. I bought an open box display model, so no telling how long it had been sitting there. I'll update the firmware tonight.
Edited by Bacon13 - 7/5/13 at 7:48am
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I have done some searching both on here and by googling. I am not seeming to find the exact answer that I want or need. I have a 3313 and am currently using it with a projector and a 5.1 setup. I am tossing around the idea of adding a TV in my bedroom and want to just run it off the 3313 since I already have a directv box, dune and bluray player in one location. I am going to be running this off of a monoprice hdbaset device from the 3313. As long as I don't have DHCP issues with this device it should work.

My question is what is the best way to get audio from these devices to the TV in the bedroom? I am ok with it just being the speakers on the TV. Thanks
post #8510 of 10468
hi guys,

Happy and excited with my denon 2113 and jbl cinema 500. But the issue im facing is when i play mp3 or usb the music will be played only on center speakers. is there any options to make it play as normal.
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Thread Starter 
What surround mode are you using? The likely culprit is that you are in one of the "Cinema" modes and the audio is collapsing to the center channel.
post #8512 of 10468
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by chadcj7 View Post

I have done some searching both on here and by googling. I am not seeming to find the exact answer that I want or need. I have a 3313 and am currently using it with a projector and a 5.1 setup. I am tossing around the idea of adding a TV in my bedroom and want to just run it off the 3313 since I already have a directv box, dune and bluray player in one location. I am going to be running this off of a monoprice hdbaset device from the 3313. As long as I don't have DHCP issues with this device it should work.

My question is what is the best way to get audio from these devices to the TV in the bedroom? I am ok with it just being the speakers on the TV. Thanks

The 3313 features an independent ZONE2 HDMI output that will allow you to seamlessly feed audio+video directly to TV in another zone. So all you have to do is hook up an HDMI cable and you are done.

You can play a separate source from main zone, or the same source, but note that if you feed the same source to both "zones" the HDMI audio from the source may be restricted to stereo (2.0 PCM) because of the differing capabilities of the TV vs. the receiver.
post #8513 of 10468
I have a Denon 2113 since January this year. Was pretty happy with it - my cheap BIC speakers sound much better now than they used to with an old Sony DVR. A couple of weeks ago my daughter got me an Apple TV 3 device. It had never crossed my mind that two big companies could sell products that are incompatible. It turns out Denon 2113 doesn't recognize the HDMI signal from Apple TV 3! I tried all possible settings and ended up connecting the HDMI cable directly to my 5 years old Samsung TV.

It seems to me that either Apple or Denon (or both) don't give a damn about their customers...
post #8514 of 10468
Thread Starter 
Many, many people are using Apple TV's with their Denon receivers. They are definitely NOT incompatible.

HDMI handshake issues can be funny though. Did you try all the HDMI inputs on the receiver?

Some folks who have had issues with the Apple TV have reported that changing the color space setting on the ATV from "Auto" to a specific setting resolved blank screen issues.
post #8515 of 10468
Yes, I did. I have read posts on this forum about problems - nobody yet found a real solution. I'm wondering - doesn't Apple or Denon read this forum?
post #8516 of 10468
They most likely do. My ATV3 works just fine with my 1913, probably the most seamless setup of any of my sources.
post #8517 of 10468
Hi. I have Denon 2313 and Samsung Galaxy S3. How can I stream Spotify from my phone to the Denon receiver wirelessly?
post #8518 of 10468
ProLogic music mode
post #8519 of 10468
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Originally Posted by GlidiD View Post

Hi. I have Denon 2313 and Samsung Galaxy S3. How can I stream Spotify from my phone to the Denon receiver wirelessly?

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq/0_100#user_G9
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Originally Posted by vanhelsing.cs View Post

hi guys,

Happy and excited with my denon 2113 and jbl cinema 500. But the issue im facing is when i play mp3 or usb the music will be played only on center speakers. is there any options to make it play as normal.

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Originally Posted by vanhelsing.cs View Post

ProLogic music mode

FYI ... it helps if you press the QUOTE button in the lower right corner of the post you are responding to which will then copy that post and your response will be listed beneath it, otherwise, your post just sticks out there and is somewhat confusing without any context.

What do you mean by "center speakers" as there is generally only one center speaker?
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