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post #9121 of 10468
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Originally Posted by wildbill7145 View Post

Well, I think fiddling with this thing is has lead me to busto world. Tried the HDMI handshake fix as a last resort, with no luck. Now when I turn the amp on it simply says HDMI1/D=COAX which makes me think it's not finding the HDMI board whatsoever.

Stupid thing is I finally pulled the entire entertainment unit out and the surge protector still has the happy green light shining bright indicating that it's continuing to protect my stuff and nothing wrong has occurred.
Don't you have other "connections" to your entertainment system from "outside" besides the power connector?
What about the TV cable or the network/phone cable? Are those protected against a surge as well?
post #9122 of 10468
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Originally Posted by jetsfan4ever80 View Post

I just got the 1713 and have been very happy. However, does anyone know if the 1713 supports automatic input switching? For instance, when I had my Google Chromecast hooked up directly to my TV and played something on it, the TV would automatically switch to that input. The 1713 doesn't seem to be doing that for me. I've looked through various options, but don't see anything that would enable it. Does anyone know if the 1713 supports this? Thanks!

My 1613 does - for example, watching cable stb then power on the blu-ray. I’m assuming it’s the same with the 1713. However, I haven’t tried chromecast.

To be clear this is not "native" functionality. It is a byproduct of HDMI CEC so you have to have HDMI Control enabled in the receiver and also in the connected devices and then hope it works as expected.
post #9123 of 10468
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Originally Posted by ritholtz View Post

Thanks for the suggestion. I will try it out. But I would like to split AVR HDMI out instead of source. Otherwise, I won't be able to use both
inputs (Chromecast and BD player) with TV/PJ right? Looks like there is no AVR+TV option with Denon.
Hi,
Is it possible to play same source in zone1 and zone2. I can make use of existing stereo speakers next to TV in game room by connecting them as zone2. I can watch and hear same thing in Game room as well as in media room.
post #9124 of 10468
Thread Starter 
Yes, however Zone 2 is limited to only analog sources and internally tuned network sources. So a Chromecast plugged into an HDMI input wouldn't work.

The newer E/X series models have added an "All Zone Stereo" party mode feature which will broadcast the same stereo audio (regardless of source) in all zones.
post #9125 of 10468
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

USB is stereo only. You would have to pass via HDMI or DLNA for multi channel.

unfortunately multi channel FLACs do not play correctly via DLNA, same as USB.
post #9126 of 10468
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

Yes, however Zone 2 is limited to only analog sources and internally tuned network sources. So a Chromecast plugged into an HDMI input wouldn't work.

The newer E/X series models have added an "All Zone Stereo" party mode feature which will broadcast the same stereo audio (regardless of source) in all zones.
Thanks Batpig,
I have 2113. So no all zone stereo. Considering it is stereo, it might not be that much useful in media room either. Is it possible to send audio from BD player using RCA and use it as zone 2 along with HDMI out to AVR. I can send audio to TV from BD player. I guess, it is better to restrict ourselves to one of game room or media room to keep things simple and cost affective. Otherwise, I will end up splitting every source and running long HDMI cables. Not sure why Denon doesn't support both AVR and TV option.

Sending HDMI single to projector should not affect life of bulb as long as it is switched off right?
Edited by ritholtz - 8/28/13 at 1:57pm
post #9127 of 10468
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

To be clear this is not "native" functionality. It is a byproduct of HDMI CEC so you have to have HDMI Control enabled in the receiver and also in the connected devices and then hope it works as expected.

Thanks so much! The HDMI Control option did the trick.
post #9128 of 10468
I'm running through the Set Up for the AVR-1713. When we get to Network Setup, it said my internet connection test failed.

The AVR-1713 is connected to a new Airport Express, which is connected to my home wireless network. I can verify the Airport is connected to the network with the Airport Utility on my laptop. Says the connection is "Good."

DHCP is on.

The network is password protected... should the receiver need a password to connect via network cable? Because it's not asking for one.

The Set Up Assistant isn't very helpful here. It's only offering to Try Again (and I did) or Skip.

Any suggestions?
post #9129 of 10468
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Originally Posted by ciukacz View Post

unfortunately multi channel FLACs do not play correctly via DLNA, same as USB.

Ah .. down sampled to stereo as well. Thanks. I'm not really familiar with FLAC files.
post #9130 of 10468
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Originally Posted by FalseAnimal View Post

I'm running through the Set Up for the AVR-1713. When we get to Network Setup, it said my internet connection test failed.

The AVR-1713 is connected to a new Airport Express, which is connected to my home wireless network. I can verify the Airport is connected to the network with the Airport Utility on my laptop. Says the connection is "Good."

DHCP is on.

The network is password protected... should the receiver need a password to connect via network cable? Because it's not asking for one.

The Set Up Assistant isn't very helpful here. It's only offering to Try Again (and I did) or Skip.

Any suggestions?

Can you connect the laptop direct to the Airport Express and connect to the router? Try cycling DHCP off/on.
post #9131 of 10468
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Originally Posted by MarkEHansen View Post

Don't you have other "connections" to your entertainment system from "outside" besides the power connector?
What about the TV cable or the network/phone cable? Are those protected against a surge as well?

Could be the source for sure. I'm hearing today in my small town that many people have been saying that their cable boxes got cooked the other night. PS3 and AVR are the only things showing problems, cable box, modem, router are not. Not sure. Never dealt with this before. Would think those would have all been hurt first though.

Still looking into whether credit card will help with this.

Oh, they weren't protected. by the way. I guess lesson learned? I don't think I know anyone who does that, but I guess it can't hurt to be the first.
post #9132 of 10468
^^
Installation of a "whole home" surge protector installed at the outside power box (roughly $200) would be a wise investment for most folks to consider. wink.gif
post #9133 of 10468
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Can you connect the laptop direct to the Airport Express and connect to the router? Try cycling DHCP off/on.

When I first tried, I actually didn't get through to the internet. So I switched back to wireless and toggled the Airport between Static and back to DHCP. Then I could connect through the ethernet cable to the Airport.

But that didn't help the 1713 connect.

So then I wirelessly Renewed the DHCP Lease. Tried the Network Setup again and it failed. But then something happened that I missed. And the receiver's display indicated some process was (and is) going on). First it said MAIN and was counting down from about 11 minutes. Now it says DSP and it's at 50% and has 5 minutes left.

What is it doing? I'm cautiously optimistic.
post #9134 of 10468
It worked! At least I was able to log in to my Pandora account. And it's playing. So I think I'm online. smile.gif

And looks like my firmware is updated.

Thanks for your help!
post #9135 of 10468
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Originally Posted by wildbill7145 View Post

Could be the source for sure. I'm hearing today in my small town that many people have been saying that their cable boxes got cooked the other night. PS3 and AVR are the only things showing problems, cable box, modem, router are not. Not sure. Never dealt with this before. Would think those would have all been hurt first though.

Still looking into whether credit card will help with this.

Oh, they weren't protected. by the way. I guess lesson learned? I don't think I know anyone who does that, but I guess it can't hurt to be the first.
If it happened to a lot of people in your community through the same provider, they're trying to dodge responsibility. Press the issue and encourage others to do the same. The cable provider has insurance too.
post #9136 of 10468
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Originally Posted by FalseAnimal View Post

And the receiver's display indicated some process was (and is) going on). First it said MAIN and was counting down from about 11 minutes. Now it says DSP and it's at 50% and has 5 minutes left.

What is it doing? I'm cautiously optimistic.
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And looks like my firmware is updated.

The "stuff" that you saw on the display was the firmware update happening.
post #9137 of 10468
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

First thing to do is to lower the gain knob on the sub a little more and rerun Audyssey until the sub setting result is within a -3db - 0db range. If you then later decide to bump up the sub level a few db, and are using the Quick Select settings to turn on the AVR, then remember to re-memorize the settings after changing the sub to it's new level by pressing/holding the respective Quick Select buttons on the front panel.


Not quite sure I understand this entirely. Turning the gain knob down, rerun room correction. Check.

Then afterwards I will return the gain knob to what level I prefer. However I had no knowledge of the quick select "memory". Will have to pull out the manual and do some reading tonight!
post #9138 of 10468
After running Audyssey, don't touch the SW controls.

If you want to bump up the SW, do it with the Channel Level control on the AVR.
post #9139 of 10468
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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Originally Posted by ciukacz View Post

unfortunately multi channel FLACs do not play correctly via DLNA, same as USB.

Ah .. down sampled to stereo as well. Thanks. I'm not really familiar with FLAC files.

>Has nothing to do with DLNA. It's merely a choice to support in the AVR it or not. My AVR-3313 downsamples multi channel FLAC. Quite disappointed really. When I play the same FLACs using my DBT-3313 a multi channel bit stream is pushed to the AVR which it happely decodes in perfect 5.1.
I can only conclude that the AVR downsampling is choice Denon made.


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post #9140 of 10468
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Originally Posted by PaytonD View Post

Not quite sure I understand this entirely. Turning the gain knob down, rerun room correction. Check.

Then afterwards I will return the gain knob to what level I prefer. However I had no knowledge of the quick select "memory". Will have to pull out the manual and do some reading tonight!

As SanchoPanza notes, after you run Audyssey DO NOT make any further adjustments on the sub itself, rather do it using the Sub level control on the AVR as that will be a digital change you can more easily keep track of rather than the manual change via the gain knob.
post #9141 of 10468
I learned what I know from jds, including if you adjust SW via AVR, you can always RESTORE the settings to where they were set after running Audyssey.
post #9142 of 10468
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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

After running Audyssey, don't touch the SW controls.If you want to bump up the SW, do it with the Channel Level control on the AVR.

Ok, which is exactly what I have been doing. Gain was centered on the sub during audyssey setup. It set volume at -9db. I prefer the sub in the -3db range, so how do I save that setting?
post #9143 of 10468
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Originally Posted by PaytonD View Post

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Originally Posted by SanchoPanza View Post

After running Audyssey, don't touch the SW controls.If you want to bump up the SW, do it with the Channel Level control on the AVR.

Ok, which is exactly what I have been doing. Gain was centered on the sub during audyssey setup. It set volume at -9db. I prefer the sub in the -3db range, so how do I save that setting?

in that case, you WILL need to turn down the gain on the SW & re-run Audyssey, until you get in the -3dB window
post #9144 of 10468
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Originally Posted by PaytonD View Post

Ok, which is exactly what I have been doing. Gain was centered on the sub during audyssey setup. It set volume at -9db. I prefer the sub in the -3db range, so how do I save that setting?

Actually, in the +/3db range is what is recommended, so then yes, as is the case with the vast majority of subs, you must dial the gain knob down to get within that range before you run the rest of the mic positions as the volume levels are determined only at mic position #1. Once with the correct +/-3db range, you can then run the rest of the mic positions to complete the Audyssey setup. Once having done the full setup, at that point, make any further changes via the AVR.
post #9145 of 10468
So I just hooked up an open box AVR 2113ci from best buy that I picked up last pick to start a budget 5.1 system and after spending a couple hours wiring the speakers was rewarded by not getting any video from any sources ( I am able to access the receiver menu and ran setup all the way through).

I originally tried to connect to my HTPC and got nothing so I ran the update. Still nothing so I figured that HTPC's might be a little finicky and tried my blu ray player. Still nothing, so just to make sure I wasn't going crazy I hooked both the Bluray player and the HTPC to the TV and confirmed they do in fact work. Could there be a setting I am missing or did I get a dud? Being inexperienced, I am not sure what trouble shooting steps I should be taking before calling up Denon for Warranty service.
Edited by ppilot - 8/30/13 at 12:47am
post #9146 of 10468
The first step to do with any other than new purchase is to reset the microprocessor (see post #5 of this thread) to ensure all settings are returned to their original factory defaults.
post #9147 of 10468
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

The first step to do with any other than new purchase is to reset the microprocessor (see post #5 of this thread) to ensure all settings are returned to their original factory defaults.

And that did it....much appreciated!
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I've got a Denon 2113CI AVR with Direct TV HD box and Samsung Smart TV. I would like to be able to stream Netflix with my smart TV through the AVR as well as be able to have the tv on a football game etc. and listen to music at the same time. What is the best way to configure the wiring? Thanks for your help.
post #9149 of 10468
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Originally Posted by ahinman1 View Post

I've got a Denon 2113CI AVR with Direct TV HD box and Samsung Smart TV. I would like to be able to stream Netflix with my smart TV through the AVR as well as be able to have the tv on a football game etc. and listen to music at the same time. What is the best way to configure the wiring? Thanks for your help.

Just to clarify, "Netflix through the AVR" is a separate task from "watch football & listen to music" right? (At first reading, I thought you wanted to watch netflix, watch football & listen to music all at once.)

Not sure about the 2nd part, but the Netflix part is easy as long as your TV has an audio out jack. Connect that to the AVR & then you can listen to the audio by setting the AVR to the "TV Audio" input.
post #9150 of 10468
Yes, they would be two separate tasks. If I were to connect the AVR to the TV through the audio out jack that would work for watching Netflix, but what happens when I want to just have the TV on (not Netflix) with music playing?
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