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Thread Starter 
HDMI is so stupid and finicky. Glad it was an easy fix.
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Originally Posted by jreedar View Post

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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

If you have an analog audio connection from the source (or if you are using an internal source like network) you can play that same audio in both zones.

Will the 3313 ever be able to send digital / non analog signals to zone 2 like the new X4000 possibly through a future firmware update? Or is more of a hardware limitation and will never be an option on the 3313?

I've had mine a little over a year and thanks to this thread and forum I have all my analog connections set up and working great, but just curious.

Thanks,
Neal

That kind of core functionality will not change.
post #9243 of 10468
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Originally Posted by jreedar View Post

Will the 3313 ever be able to send digital / non analog signals to zone 2 like the new X4000 possibly through a future firmware update? Or is more of a hardware limitation and will never be an option on the 3313?

I've had mine a little over a year and thanks to this thread and forum I have all my analog connections set up and working great, but just curious.

Thanks,
Neal

Sorry, but no. frown.gif
post #9244 of 10468
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Originally Posted by LINDW4LL View Post

My issue has been fixed since moving the fridge to another circuit. I was not experiencing the purple and yellow line issue, it was a flicker across the whole screen for a split second.
You might want to have a qualified electrician look at the wires in the various junction boxes to see if any of those boxes have wires from the circuit which serves your media setup AND wires from another circuit. Years ago, after having my house extensively remodeled, I found that my computer monitor would flicker horribly any time the track lights in my kitchen were on. It was bad enough that it eventually blew out my fax machine and answering machine. The guy who did the wiring was clueless, but since I have an EE degree, I opened up each junction box and found that in one of them, the neutral (white) wires from my office circuit and the track light circuit were all wired together. I told my electrician and he claimed that this was code. I have no idea whether it was legal, but it was truly a horrible idea. The problem is that the two circuits were on different phase circuits. This meant that when the track lights were on, they created an out of phase voltage in the neutral equal to the resistance of the Romex wire times the current in my track lights (close to 10 amps). This was at least 20-30 volts, with a lot of power behind it, and completely out of phase with the voltage on my office circuit. The power supplies in my fax machine and answering machine couldn't take it and they died within two weeks of our move back into the remodeled house.

I separated the neutrals so that the circuits were no longer tied together and the problem instantly and completely went away.
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I have a 3313ci.

I have my projector and an LCD monitor hooked up to HDMI 1 and HDMI2. I would like whatever input I am playing (Directv, Blu Ray) to play on whichever of the HDMI connections is turned on. That way I can play a blu ray concert and listen without having to turn on my projector.

From what I read, HDMI Monitor 1 and Monitor 2 will show the same output, i.e. they are mirrored so I should be able to do that.

It works fine when I have my projector off and my LCD monitor on. I get the video through the LCD.

However, the projector only works when the LCD monitor is on. If both are on and I turn off the LCD monitor, the projector goes dark.

Hopefully I explained it so it make sense smile.gif

Any thoughts?
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Do both TV and PJ have the same resolution? What happens when you swap the cables? What is the distance to the PJ? What happens when you power on PJ, wait a few seconds, AVR, wait a few seconds, then source with no LCD on at any time?
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Do both TV and PJ have the same resolution? What happens when you swap the cables? What is the distance to the PJ? What happens when you power on PJ, wait a few seconds, AVR, wait a few seconds, then source with no LCD on at any time?
Thanks for the quick response.

So many good questions smile.gif

The one that peaks my curiosity is the one about resolution. I've moved, built a new theater and upgraded my projector from 720p to 1080p and I'm thinking my monitor is only the equivalent of 720p. I'll confirm that.
Edit - my current monitor is 1440x900, so it's not full 1080P. I think I have a 1080p monitor I can try.

The distance of the projector (cable length) is 20', LCD monitor cable is 3'

I haven't tried any power on sequence other then what I've always done which is AVR, then either projector or LCD depending on what I wanted to watch.

Edit - I swapped out the monitor with a 1080P one and all is working as expected.
Edited by David James - 9/10/13 at 8:05pm
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I have an issue that started up recently and I cannot figure out what's wrong. I have the 2313 set to standby passthru my CBL/SAT HDMI input. When in standby the video will passthru just fine but I don't get audio. It used to work and don't remember changing anything. I tried a reset and it was the same results; video with no audio. I have an X1 DVR going to the 2313 going to a Panasonic TC-P50ut50 all HDMI. Any ideas?
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Originally Posted by batpig View Post

If you have an analog audio connection from the source (or if you are using an internal source like network) you can play that same audio in both zones.
Thanks batpig. I will check it out this functionality. After getting extra amp for zone 2 speakers, I can use this functionality to play music. As of now, I am splitting Chromecast input source to TV and Receiver instead of HDMI out from receiver. I am going to be fine with playing 5.1 sound from receiver and sterio sound from TV speakers right? Probably x2000 is what I needed with party mode.
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Originally Posted by jaycam View Post

I have an issue that started up recently and I cannot figure out what's wrong. I have the 2313 set to standby passthru my CBL/SAT HDMI input. When in standby the video will passthru just fine but I don't get audio. It used to work and don't remember changing anything. I tried a reset and it was the same results; video with no audio. I have an X1 DVR going to the 2313 going to a Panasonic TC-P50ut50 all HDMI. Any ideas?

I figurers it out. Somehow the HDMI audio got set back to avr rather than TV...I don't remember changing that but I must have. All is good now.
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^^
The "HDMI Audio Out" setting is only relevant when the AVR is ON, whereas you need the audio to pass through when the AVR is in Standby. In most cases, the audio must be stereo to pass through to the TV which is likely what resolved the issue.
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Just put together a def tech system for my buddy. The reciever is an open box Pioneer Elite VSX-43. The calibration mic is missing. Can we use the mic that came with my Denon 1713 to do the calibration? Will this not be ideal because the mics are designed specifically for each make/model?
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Thread Starter 
No, the mics are different. It will WORK in the sense that you will get a calibration, but the resultant frequency response will not be correct because the Audyssey mic has a different frequency response than the Pio mic which can't be accounted for.
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Don't see an update in Post #6 for the firmware update for the 1713...anything? I got the update a few days ago...
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They all will get the same update. The 1713 and 2313CI are simply delayed.
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

They all will get the same update. The 1713 and 2313CI are simply delayed.

Not sure I understand...."delayed"? I just received the update on my 1713. Do you mean it's the same update that the 2313C received? Same changes?
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Update not initially available to all on same day, so as to not overload servers.
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Havent stuck my head in for awhile, just been loving the 3313ci. Decided Id update the FW tonight, first time since Ive had it eek.gif
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I have a 2113CI and I have only ventured into the basic audio functions. I recently purchased new fronts and center speakers. I need to do a comparison between my old and new fronts using only my ears. I would like to be able to do a front speaker comparison (A/B) utilizing the subwoofer with both A and B speakers. Is this possible with this model AVR? If possible could someone help me with the steps to take? Would I be able to utilize an Audyssey Eq?
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Although you can set up the second set of speakers as Front B, you would not be able to separately EQ them.
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Originally Posted by David J Smith View Post

Hello, I've just finished building my first home theatre I have wharfedale 10.6 fronts, 10.cs, 10.1 rears and a 10.Mx sub speaker set up 5.1.
I had a onkyo sr 502 amp so I upgraded to a denon 2113 it sounds a lot better but I have a question about the volume.
To me it seems like I have to turn up the denon a lot more than I did the onkyo to get the same volume level, the denon dose get very loud when turned right up. Is this just how new amps work?

Yup. Modern AVRs use a logarithmic volume scale such that average volume will be 40-50 (TV) to 50-65 (movie/music listening) and after running Audyssey, movie "reference" volume is set to 80 which is generally too loud for most folks.
Edited by jdsmoothie - 9/20/13 at 9:56am
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Ok thanks for clearing that up for me! Was a little worried also should I have dynamic volume turned on or off for movies?
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Depends on whether you want to contain the loud explosions (eg. kids sleeping - ON) or not (OFF).
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Hi all,

I just bought a new Denon 2113 receiver. I'm having issues playing MKVs with DTS HD on my projector with a Popcorn A400. They play fine on my computer and my popcorn hour A210.

My setup is as follows

Popcorn (HDMI) -> Denon 2113 (HDMI) -> Epson TW6000 projector

The popcorn is connected to the Media Player input on the amp.

I am able to play DTS audio but not DTSHD. The video plays fine, but no sound.

The Popcorn is set to passthrough DTS and DTSHD.

When I turn info on, I see "Sound Mode: Stereo", "Input Signal: Unknown".

The same setup works fine on my older Sony DA3300ES amp. I have setup the speakers with Audyssey and haven't changed any other default settings.

Has anyone experienced similar issues before? Any help is appreciated.


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Anyone know what the new firmware update does? I updated it today.
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^^
Firmware update changelogs listed in post #6 of this thread.
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Originally Posted by srinirvasan View Post

Hi all,

I just bought a new Denon 2113 receiver. I'm having issues playing MKVs with DTS HD on my projector with a Popcorn A400. They play fine on my computer and my popcorn hour A210.

My setup is as follows

Popcorn (HDMI) -> Denon 2113 (HDMI) -> Epson TW6000 projector

The popcorn is connected to the Media Player input on the amp.

I am able to play DTS audio but not DTSHD. The video plays fine, but no sound.

The Popcorn is set to passthrough DTS and DTSHD.

When I turn info on, I see "Sound Mode: Stereo", "Input Signal: Unknown".

The same setup works fine on my older Sony DA3300ES amp. I have setup the speakers with Audyssey and haven't changed any other default settings.

Has anyone experienced similar issues before? Any help is appreciated.

This issue is likely source related. Try other settings on the A400.
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Weird, PS3 was just fine last night. Turned it on today to load GTA and no AV. Went through the HDMI handshake fix and it's all fine now. Glad you guys are here. Any idea what would have caused this though?
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Thread Starter 
HDMI sucks. There's your answer wink.gif
post #9270 of 10468
Haha, very informative BP. :-P
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