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post #31 of 64
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Originally Posted by Auditor55 View Post

Anytime is see a NC-17 rating that means full frontal nudity. I know to stay away from that movie. I think its a shame for actors in Hollywood to disgrace themselves.

why would it mean "disgrace themselves"? If it's relevant to the movie I don't care.
post #32 of 64
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

why would it mean "disgrace themselves"? If it's relevant to the movie I don't care.

I hate to see good actors stoop so low as to display their most private parts to the world. Why do they need to show themselves (frontal parts), how in any way can doing so ever be relevant to the movie. For an actor like Matthew McConaughey, who's been pretty dignified up to this point, to show himself in a flim in that manner (not that he is), is in my opinion, beneath him. I hope he doesn't appear in any nude shots.
post #33 of 64
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Originally Posted by Auditor55 View Post

I hate to see good actors stoop so low as to display their most private parts to the world.

I get your point but again I don't find it degrading at all. There are movies where things are told in a way that nudity is not glorified but just part of the story. We're adults, can't we handle it? I mean I'm not aroused every time I see a boob, nor am I disgusted... I can see a woman naked without thinking she's doing something obscene, and I can see a man naked without rolling my eyes as well. I don't like gratuitous violence or gratuitous nudity, but I don't mind it if the movie treats it respectfully (or gracefully).
post #34 of 64
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Originally Posted by RobertR View Post

I've always found MM and/or the movies he's in to be dull, dull, dull.
You would have a change of heart if you've seen Magic Mike.
post #35 of 64
After the 2 disappointment of Total recall and RE Retribution, I thought ok I'm back in my element with this crafty character driven small indie film that will put me back in good graces. Boy was I duped, never felt so bamboozled with this nasty pile of utter crud. Trust me if you haven't seen this turkey consider yourself lucky and stay far from this as you can.

This is one of the most bizarre, whackiest movies I've seen in some time and not in any positive fashion either. I didn't see this coming at all after Lincoln Lawyer and how much I enjoyed that one. For some reason my local BB asked if I wanted to rent this for free and I was jumping for joy and now I see why, they had to give this away But I know most of you will do the exact opposite of my warning and see it anyways but don't say I didn't try.
post #36 of 64
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Originally Posted by Morpheo View Post

I get your point but again I don't find it degrading at all. There are movies where things are told in a way that nudity is not glorified but just part of the story. We're adults, can't we handle it? I mean I'm not aroused every time I see a boob, nor am I disgusted... I can see a woman naked without thinking she's doing something obscene, and I can see a man naked without rolling my eyes as well. I don't like gratuitous violence or gratuitous nudity, but I don't mind it if the movie treats it respectfully (or gracefully).
The problem is what is considered "obscene" is subjective (to paraphrase a Supreme Court justice).

With non-porn movies, it is rare when nudity does come across as something, at least partially, gratuitous...IMO.
post #37 of 64
Magic Mike is obscene. Obscenely jacked that is.
post #38 of 64
I watched "Killer Joe" last night. Kinda reminded me of "Justified" for some reason. wink.gif
post #39 of 64
For some reason I haven't had the urge to go to KFC after seeing this movie...
post #40 of 64
I seldom have the urge to go to KFC even before seeing the movie. biggrin.gif
post #41 of 64
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Originally Posted by Brian Conrad View Post

I seldom have the urge to go to KFC even before seeing the movie. biggrin.gif

Lol, no doubt. That part of the movie really grossed me out though. Can't remember the last time a movie had the same effect on me...
post #42 of 64
I guess I just love "gritty" dramas and this one fit the bill. I had even wondered if the BD disc might include the NR version but it didn't. Actually it had no extras.
post #43 of 64
Amazon has the BD for 16 bucks....can't resist a blind buy.smile.gif
post #44 of 64
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Amazon has the BD for 16 bucks....can't resist a blind buy.smile.gif
I can't wait for your reaction and review smile.gif
post #45 of 64
Originally Posted by oink View Post
Amazon has the BD for 16 bucks....can't resist a blind buy.smile.gif

You. Must. Resist.

post #46 of 64
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Originally Posted by zoey67 View Post

I can't wait for your reaction and review smile.gif
Will be getting it on the 2nd.wink.gif
post #47 of 64
I finally decided to go for a blind buy on this one! I watched it yesterday. By the way, the canadian Blu-ray doesn't mention nor include more than one cut. After verification, it IS the uncut version, with a running time of 102 mins, while the cut, R-rated version is 98 mins. After reading some of the comments above, I must say I'm a little surprised by the overall reaction, nothing really shocked me in this movie. I thought Matthew McConaughey was great (as for the "full frontal nudity" from his part mentioned earlier, 1/it's not "frontal" 2/it doesn't last more than a few seconds, I fail to see any problem here), and I am so, so glad he's taking more serious, challenging roles now. The rest of the cast was more than good too, especially Gina Gershon, Thomas Haden Church and Juno Temple, in a role that added an ethereal, hopeful presense to the whole thing... For people who like Tarantino's humor, or twisted crime thrillers this one shouldn't disappoint. I liked it a lot. I didn't find the violence gratuitous in the least (same for the nudity - which again, even for the other characters besides McConaughey, just happens in a few scenes ONLY), just in line with the characters, who don't have any sort of moral value whatsoever, therefore concepts like common sense and normality don't really apply to them. A lot of funny moments as well.

Finally, after seeing it, I think it should have been rated R, not NC-17! It kind of adds a superfluous "watch at your own risk" label to it for no reason. Yes it's violent, it tells a weird story, it has nudity (oooooooooooh the horror!), so what, nothing that we haven't seen before if you ask me. A film like Drive might have less boobs in it, but it has the same amount of weirdos (or at least similar ones)...


[edit] it should be noted that the film is no longer rated NC-17, but is now UNRATED (which explains the 'unrated' director's cut Blu-ray, which IS the previous NC-17 version)

From filmratings bulletin #2246:
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Killer Joe
Rated Unrated
NOTE: THE NC-17 RATING FOR "KILLER JOE" (C.A.R.A. CERTIFICATE NO. 47457, BULLETIN NO. 2212 2/29/12) HAS BEEN SURRENDERED. THIS FILM IS UNRATED AS OF 10/23/12.

Edited by Morpheo - 12/30/12 at 9:22am
post #48 of 64
I've read the play this is based on (written by Tracy Letts, same playwright that did Bug with William Friedkin and won the Pulitzer a few years ago for August: Osage County.) I'll check out the BD today. smile.gif
post #49 of 64
Boy oh boy....what a good movie this is!

MM and the "girl" are just superb.
One of McConaughey's best performances ever.
Dunno who the girl is....never seen her before.
Without question, she is someone to watch in the years ahead.

The rest of the cast also put in terrific performances.

A sense of menace pervades this film from the very beginning...the atmosphere and cinematography are perfect.
The final act is edge-of-the-seat stuff.

Question to all who have seen this movie....did she or didn't she?wink.gif
I say yay, the wife says nay....
post #50 of 64
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Boy oh boy....what a good movie this is!
MM and the "girl" are just superb.
One of McConaughey's best performances ever.
Dunno who the girl is....never seen her before.
Without question, she is someone to watch in the years ahead.
The rest of the cast also put in terrific performances.
A sense of menace pervades this film from the very beginning...the atmosphere and cinematography are perfect.
The final act is edge-of-the-seat stuff.
Question to all who have seen this movie....did she or didn't she?wink.gif
I say yay, the wife says nay....

It's very hard to say, it could have gone either way smile.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I like to think she didn't do it but on the other hand, MM is a pretty dangerous fella, yet I'm sure he would be a caring and loving father of sorts wink.gif Is he really in love with her? What about her? In my previous post I said none of the characters had moral values, it's not really true. MM seems to live by his own personal "code"... Anyway I really loved that film, I 'll watch it again very soon

...As for "the girl", you've seen Juno Temple very recently in The Dark Knight Rises, she was Catwoman's girlfriend... She was also Queen Anne in The Three Musketeers with Milla Jovovich... She currently has 9 upcoming projects on imdb, surely someone to watch and a very talented actress.Very easy on the eyes too wink.gif
post #51 of 64
You have to give kudos to the screenwriter and director for leaving the question up in the air.
Even though the answer is left for the viewers to decide and there isn't closure, per se, I don't feel jerked around or short-changed in the slightest.
Killer Joe has a perfect ending....smile.gif
post #52 of 64
Just finished this. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Great flick except for the one scene with the burning trash barrel in the rain. It really just ruins the entire film. How that much of a logic hole is allowed into a movie perplexes me. Another major gripe was the dog chained up, did he get taken in for the rain or was he left out to get wet? These types of loose ends and questions with no answers just kill the movie. There's no excuse for this garbage. Killer Joe?
More like Prometheus Joe.
Edited by darthrsg - 1/6/13 at 1:13pm
post #53 of 64
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Originally Posted by Lee Stewart View Post


SAHARA


As in they screwed up another Clive Cussler book
I love Cussler, read them all. What other of his books have been made into movies?
post #54 of 64
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Originally Posted by ambesolman View Post

I love Cussler, read them all. What other of his books have been made into movies?

Just that one and Raise the Titanic. He didn't care for that adaptation, either.
post #55 of 64
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

Just finished this. Great flick except for the one scene with the burning trash barrel in the rain. It really just ruins the entire film. How that much of a logic hole is allowed into a movie perplexes me. Another major gripe was the dog chained up, did he get taken in for the rain or was he left out to get wet? These types of loose ends and questions with no answers just kill the movie. There's no excuse for this garbage. Killer Joe? More like Prometheus Joe.
To be honest...it's late and I don't remember the "trash barrel."
But I do remember the dog, and I agree with your point. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
It's obvious the dog was destined to play a dramatic part of the movie....BUUUUUT doesn't.rolleyes.gif
If they decided the dog WASN'T going to used, it should have been edited out.

Edited by oink - 1/6/13 at 9:09am
post #56 of 64
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Originally Posted by darthrsg View Post

Another major gripe was the dog chained up, did he get taken in for the rain or was he left out to get wet? These types of loose ends and questions with no answers just kill the movie. There's no excuse for this garbage. Killer Joe? More like Prometheus Joe.

Why is it a problem?
Whether he's taken in or left outside doesn't seem to bother them much. We can't except these individuals to act rationally can we? They just don't care. I can live with the dog outside. smile.gif
post #57 of 64
What is up with the recent lack of spoiler tags? What used to be spoiler material is being openly discussed. The Looper thread is another good example. I check into threads to get viewer feedback but I’m finding out more than I want to know.
post #58 of 64
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Originally Posted by Aliens View Post

What is up with the recent lack of spoiler tags? What used to be spoiler material is being openly discussed. The Looper thread is another good example. I check into threads to get viewer feedback but I’m finding out more than I want to know.
Sorry, my bad....FIXED.redface.gif
post #59 of 64
I just finish watching this movie.

It is weird and bizzare!

hahahaha .. It is too funny.

I actually like it.

I need to check out on that song at the end. It is funny too.
post #60 of 64
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Boy oh boy....what a good movie this is!

MM and the "girl" are just superb.
One of McConaughey's best performances ever.
Dunno who the girl is....never seen her before.
Without question, she is someone to watch in the years ahead.

The rest of the cast also put in terrific performances.

A sense of menace pervades this film from the very beginning...the atmosphere and cinematography are perfect.
The final act is edge-of-the-seat stuff.

Question to all who have seen this movie....did she or didn't she?wink.gif
I say yay, the wife says nay....

Agreed!

I thought the ending was perfect. A friend who watched with, hates those types of endings, but he was okay with it too.

Juno Temple is quite the little actress, ain't she? wink.gif
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