Originally Posted by jjeff
The best test for MV is anything Disney, that will for sure have both MV and encryption
That seemed a good suggestion, jjeff, so I hunted around the basement and found my Disney DVDs of "Finding Nemo" and "Fantasia." While looking for something Disney I ran across my "Empire Strikes Back" DVD, and thought I'd give that a whirl, too (if anything is gonna have MV, it would be "Empire").
The result was the same as my earlier tests with the MGM and Universal DVDs. All of them play normally from DVD player passed thru Panasonic AG1970 vcr to Sony Bravia 32" LCD TV tuner via RF channel 3. For good measure, I switched things up and redid the test thru a Mitsubishi 2000 DVHS, a Panasonic AG2560, and an old Quasar: same result. Finally, I took your suggestion to try doubling back to my Pioneer DVD/HDD recorder (connecting DVD player>VCR line inputs>VCR line outputs>DVD/HDD recorder>TV). Again nothing: video quality was normal. The only CP symptom was the Pioneer refusing to engage record mode, it popped up a "This Material Is Copy Protected" alert if I tried.
This is a real headscratcher for me, because I would swear on my life this did NOT work when I had my Proton 19" and 27" CRT TVs, or my Trinitron. In fact, I went out and bought the same damn RF modulator we're all recommending to Apples555 specifically because I got tired of the AG1970 passing the dark MV frame top to my CRT TVs.
The only thing I can think of is perhaps the CRT sets do pick up just
enough of the MV during passthru to display some symptoms, but the modern flat panel TVs ignore it unless its going full-force. Or Super Eye is correct in his guess that maybe they just haven't bothered implementing DVD>VHS protection for the last eight years or so.
Apples355, I don't know what to tell you. I'm not seeing a MV problem with any
of my VCRs used as passthru modulators, in fact the VCRs don't even react in record mode. Either you have some older, heavily-CP'd DVDs or your current VCR is bad at passthru. Or an alien particle beam struck my house this week, and sucked all the MV out of my DVDs. Beats me.
Try one of the cheap JVC or Sony vcrs that have been suggested and see if they help.
(BTW while I was testing the "Empire" disc, I went on Wikpediai to check a plot point and discovered this very day is the 32nd anniversary of "Empire Strikes Back" first theatrical release. Made me feel really old.)
Originally Posted by Apples555
Interesting, so it appears the *newer* decks don't have problems, but the old ones do.
Note my Panasonic AG1970 dates from 1989 or so: not exactly new.