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post #31 of 38
5/26/12 at 10:17pm
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Originally Posted by blackscorpio View Post

I am more worried about the Ear Fatigue as you mentioned. I can sacrifice SQ, a little, for ~zero Ear Fatigue, as I intend use extended hours when I use them, you get that right.

KEF IQ/Q made into my research list. I will see if I can find a place to audition NHT, PSB, Focal and Monitor Audio. How does the EMPtek's align with the others in the list?

I do not worry, or get concerned about ear fatigue - either it will happen
or not, it depends on the individual listener. I want a speaker to reveal
everything and not hide anything. Good speakers can do this, and still be
a pleasure to listen to, all day long. When you go and audition speakers,
clear you head and focus on the music, do not be thinking about any type
of ear fatigue. Make sure you are rested and feel good, before you begin
your auditions. A good speaker should have plenty of detail and definition,
and move you at the same time - and draw you into the music. Overall, it
is hard to beat in-home auditions.
I favor looking into the Empteks, due to reviews from the respected forum
members - other than that, I can not speak about them.
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post #32 of 38
5/26/12 at 10:41pm
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Originally Posted by zieglj01 View Post

I do not worry, or get concerned about ear fatigue - either it will happen
or not, it depends on the individual listener. I want a speaker to reveal
everything and not hide anything. Good speakers can do this, and still be
a pleasure to listen to, all day long. When you go and audition speakers,
clear you head and focus on the music, do not be thinking about any type
of ear fatigue. Make sure you are rested and feel good, before you do start
your auditions. A good speaker should have plenty of detail and definition,
and move you at the same time - and draw you into the music. Overall, it
is hard to beat in-home auditions.
I favor looking into the Empteks, due to reviews from the respected forum
members - other than that, I can not speak about them.

Thanks for the suggestions. Will try the suggestion tomorrow when I go to bestbuy. Of course, home auditions, unfortunately it is out of scope for me. But I was thinking of trying the Ascends recommended by Jay1.

And I definitely try the EMPtek's in home.

On another note, off topic, I have researching about banana plugs and audio cable, any pointers/suggestions on best banana plugs and max money one should invest? audio cable, best and AWG?
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post #33 of 38
5/26/12 at 11:31pm
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Originally Posted by blackscorpio View Post

Thanks for the suggestions. Will try the suggestion tomorrow when I go to bestbuy. Of course, home auditions, unfortunately it is out of scope for me. But I was thinking of trying the Ascends recommended by Jay1.

And I definitely try the EMPtek's in home.

On another note, off topic, I have researching about banana plugs and audio cable, any pointers/suggestions on best banana plugs and max money one should invest? audio cable, best and AWG?

Ascend is a respected company, and should be on a short list.

A lot of people get their wire from Monoprice - however, their banana
plugs tend to be a mix bag. Regular speaker wire is fine, no need for
fancy names or fancy cable. Places like RadioShack, Best Buy, Walmart
and Home Depot can work - same for banana plugs, I tend to use the
RocketFish. Banana plugs are not a requirement, it is just easier if you
hook or un-hook a lot of speakers.
This is a cable guide - I tend to use 14/awg all the time, regardless of
the lenght.
http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm
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post #34 of 38
5/27/12 at 3:32am
Home depot has speaker wire. I use the 14awg wire they sell + monoprice banana plugs for ease.
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post #35 of 38
7/6/12 at 2:37pm
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Well you said you want "less boomy clear voice". You need to understand that many of these large towers are going to have that effect in a smallish room, especially if they're placed near walls.


How far away from the rear wall is you couch? 7.1 only makes sense if you have room behind your seats to place the rear surrounds, the side surrounds fire right across the seating area. There is nothing superior about bi/dipole if your surrounds are properly placed, they do help when placement is less then ideal.


Anyways I recommend Ascend 340's for you LCR, just buy the pedestal stands so they look like a tower





Then 2 pairs of HTM200's for surround.


This comes out to about $1500 shipped including the stands. The add a Rythmik F15 for an amazing ultra low frequency experience in a room your size.

Thank you Jay1.

I just received FULL Ascend setup, yet to receive the Rythmic.

Just setup the front 3 and running full. They go low and the center is awesome just want I wanted, 340 as center just does the magic with the vocals, my wife will just love it, as she always wants to crank a bit for the dialogue in the movies. I am sure it will sound better with all speakers setup and with the sub crossed over at 80.

Actually lot of things changed from initial thoughts when I started the tread. Budget wise it was a blow, in a right way though. Initially, I waned one setup from music and movies but I changed my mind. And decided to have two setups one music and one HT. The Ascend will be pure HT. So, I wanted to check if it is better to have VTF-15H or VTF-3 MK4 or PB12-NSD for HT? As I want to use the Rythmic for pure music setup, which will be a setup with the SongTowers RAAL upgraded. I don't want to spend too much on the HT so I am looking at a low budget sub for the HT, though I don't mind spending a little more to get absolute setup. so, any ideas/suggestions on the sub for HT?


PS: For future noobs coming to this thread, all thorough my journey I am aware that I am over my initial budget but this is going to be my lifetime setup(unless something goes wrong with those) and I know for sure I won't be spending a penny later to enhance/change any of this setup. so, I wanted get a reasonable good setup in the first take. I hope that makes sense and helps someone.
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post #36 of 38
7/6/12 at 10:30pm
Hiya Black,

HSU subs only... current room, the VTF3 will do fine, but as far as looking toward having a bigger room in the future, combined with the desire to 'buy it once'... get the VTF 15, if budget allows, and you'll never wonder... 'what if?'...
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post #37 of 38
7/6/12 at 10:39pm
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Hiya Black,
HSU subs only... current room, the VTF3 will do fine, but as far as looking toward having a bigger room in the future, combined with the desire to 'buy it once'... get the VTF 15, if budget allows, and you'll never wonder... 'what if?'...

Thank you, budget can be tweaked but want to maintain the point of diminishing returns.

Let me throw in another option here, just to get the best out of this discussion.

What if I use F15(sealed) for the HT, then what is the best sub for music? I am open if that makes more sense.
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post #38 of 38
7/6/12 at 10:45pm
Either the SVS PB12-NSD or the HSU VTF-3 MK4 should be enough for your room space, and I imagine you would be as excited about the performance of either of those as you are about the Ascends. You could always add a second later on to smooth out the room modes if you feel you want some improvement from there or additional bass. Here's a review of the PB12-NSD: http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/speakers/subwoofers/pb12-nsd
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