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post #811 of 1035
2/21/13 at 9:55pm
Fair enough, really bad explanation on my part. I was just trying to simplify the process by not explaining the difference between dithering and film grain. What I should have said is that people are usually mistaking graininess and pixelation in poor source content, for dithering.
Edited by JSpectre88 - 2/21/13 at 10:05pm
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post #812 of 1035
2/22/13 at 9:50am
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Fair enough, really bad explanation on my part. I was just trying to simplify the process by not explaining the difference between dithering and film grain. What I should have said is that people are usually mistaking graininess and pixelation in poor source content, for dithering.

Ah, my misunderstanding then. You're correct, graininess and pixelation are artifacts introduced by the source material.
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post #813 of 1035
2/25/13 at 7:23am
I REALLY want to try anikun's settings, but I'm nervous to go into the Service Menu. Was it difficult? Can you "reset to factory" if you don't like it?
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post #814 of 1035
2/25/13 at 8:45am
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I REALLY want to try anikun's settings, but I'm nervous to go into the Service Menu. Was it difficult? Can you "reset to factory" if you don't like it?

It's pretty easy.. But no, I don't think you can do a factory reset for the service menu values. I'm not 100% on that though.

Just make sure you jot down all of your original values, and remember that they're different for each color temp. That way if you don't like the settings, or get lost, you can always find your way back to default.
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post #815 of 1035
2/25/13 at 9:34am
I'm loving the new anikun settings more and more. The colors are fantastic. The skin tones of the athletes are much more accurate when watching basketball or English Premier soccer. I'm not a NASCAR fan (dispite living near Daytona), but I was in awe of how great the picture looks with the new settings.

As I wrote earlier, the change in color has allowed me to alter some of my other settings. I know they aren't generally related, but I think I felt I had to have my contrast higher partially because the colors didn't quite "pop" the way I wanted them to. Now that the color is more accurate, I'm comfortable bringing my contrast down (consequently, bringing my brightness slightly up too):

Cinema mode
Contrast: +83
Brightness: +57
Color: +49
Tint: 0
Sharpness: +20 (this goes back and forth)
Color Temp: Warm1
Everything else basically "off" or "auto"
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post #816 of 1035
2/26/13 at 9:20am
I also tried anikun's settings and I can say that the colors popped more and black seemed more black and I liked it. That haze was also gone when in cinema mode.

But then I put my my AVSHD calibration disk into my Panasonic Blu-Ray player and my XA2 HD-DVD player and I see that the brightness has to be turned up a lot so that the blacks are not crushed based on the calibration disk. I also had to make adjustments to the color and tint. I decided to watch a couple of movies without making those adjustments, and it looked good, but in my mind I tell myself that I am crushing the blacks and the colors are not as per the calibration disk.

So, when you are altering your settings, are you calibrating the brightness, contrast, color and tint through your player/calibration disk or just eyeballing when watching an HD tv broadcast? Are your black levels not being crushed?
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post #817 of 1035
2/26/13 at 10:50am
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I'm loving the new anikun settings more and more. The colors are fantastic. The skin tones of the athletes are much more accurate when watching basketball or English Premier soccer. I'm not a NASCAR fan (dispite living near Daytona), but I was in awe of how great the picture looks with the new settings.

As I wrote earlier, the change in color has allowed me to alter some of my other settings. I know they aren't generally related, but I think I felt I had to have my contrast higher partially because the colors didn't quite "pop" the way I wanted them to. Now that the color is more accurate, I'm comfortable bringing my contrast down (consequently, bringing my brightness slightly up too):

Cinema mode
Contrast: +83
Brightness: +57
Color: +49
Tint: 0
Sharpness: +20 (this goes back and forth)
Color Temp: Warm1
Everything else basically "off" or "auto"



.... so you applied anikun's settings to: CINEMA/WARM 1?
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post #818 of 1035
2/27/13 at 8:13am
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.... so you applied anikun's settings to: CINEMA/WARM 1?
Yeah. It appears to affect both Warm1 and Warm2...I just prefer Warm1.
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post #819 of 1035
2/27/13 at 12:24pm
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Yeah. It appears to affect both Warm1 and Warm2...I just prefer Warm1.

got it. Thanks. Any other helpful suggestions (other than writing down the original settings)?
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post #820 of 1035
2/27/13 at 11:22pm
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got it. Thanks. Any other helpful suggestions (other than writing down the original settings)?
None that I can think of. Once you write the old settings down, you can program them back in pretty easily should you find the new settings unsatisfactory.
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post #821 of 1035
3/1/13 at 1:17am
The very best settings for this tv are
Picture cinema
Contrast 100
Brightness 56
Color 45
Tiny plus 1
Sharp 0
Warm 2
Hd size 2
Hdmi auto and graphics
Custom
Contrast 96
Brightness 59
Color 45
Tint plus 1
Sharp 0
Warm 2
Hd size 2
Hd settings auto and graphics
Everything else off...
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post #822 of 1035
3/2/13 at 9:31am
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The very best settings for this tv are
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Do you mean technically or to your eye? Those settings would be offensive to my eye. Too bright, too colourful, too soft and too warm.
Dave
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post #823 of 1035
3/2/13 at 6:03pm
Technically.. Full calibration
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post #824 of 1035
3/2/13 at 6:40pm
If thats a full calibration what are the white balance settings and was this done with a meter ?
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post #825 of 1035
3/2/13 at 6:44pm
I did notice some dithering so I set the brightness down to 55 in cinema mode that took care of it
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post #826 of 1035
3/2/13 at 6:47pm
Sorry brightness is at 54
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post #827 of 1035
3/2/13 at 8:29pm
Back at brightness 56 no dithering
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post #828 of 1035
3/3/13 at 10:46am
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Technically.. Full calibration

I wouldn't exactly call the CNET settings the "very best".
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post #829 of 1035
3/3/13 at 11:19am
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I wouldn't exactly call the CNET settings the "very best".
Is that what they are?!
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post #830 of 1035
3/3/13 at 12:53pm
I think there the best I've seen once I got used to them, I'm still waiting for someone to post actual full calibration settings using the service menu
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post #831 of 1035
3/3/13 at 12:54pm
They are cnet under the tcp50u50 settings, same panel
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post #832 of 1035
3/3/13 at 12:56pm
I just bought the vizio m550vse and I can't get this thing even close to the panny, great for gaming though...
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post #833 of 1035
3/3/13 at 1:13pm
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I just bought the vizio m550vse and I can't get this thing even close to the panny, great for gaming though...

What's wrong with the U50 game mode? I think it has one if I recall, not positive.
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post #834 of 1035
3/4/13 at 12:49am
I have the u54, I called panasonic and asked where game mode was because it says game mode on the box and online and they, Oh our bad it doesn't have game mode, I would like to sue there ass for false advertisement...
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post #835 of 1035
3/4/13 at 1:55pm
Ok so I took back the Vizio and got the panny 60u54 and I need the best settings for this, ps3 game mode settings, blueray and cable.. Thanks guys
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post #836 of 1035
3/4/13 at 2:34pm
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Ok so I took back the Vizio and got the panny 60u54 and I need the best settings for this, ps3 game mode settings, blueray and cable.. Thanks guys
Seek and you shall find. smile.gif
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post #837 of 1035
3/4/13 at 5:36pm
I've had trouble playing mkv files via USB on the U50. Some mkv files work and some don't. What should I be looking for as far as mkv file specs for it to play on the TV?
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post #838 of 1035
3/4/13 at 11:20pm
Game mode sucks bad compared to the vizio doesn't support RGB full range and nonstandard puts the cloud effect on the screen anything above a brightness of 54 causes dithering in any mode I love both this and my 50u54 for blueray but I think I'll take this back and go with the Sammy pn60e535
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post #839 of 1035
3/5/13 at 3:21am
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Game mode sucks bad compared to the vizio doesn't support RGB full range and nonstandard puts the cloud effect on the screen anything above a brightness of 54 causes dithering in any mode I love both this and my 50u54 for blueray but I think I'll take this back and go with the Sammy pn60e535

You don't need RGB, you can set it up so it looks exactly the same in standard. I don't understand your brightness complaint, leave it at 54 then, it doesn't need to go any higher.
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post #840 of 1035
3/5/13 at 10:57am
What are your settings in standard mode? Game mode is useless and will your standard settings work on my 50u54 as well?
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