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post #391 of 1376
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Originally Posted by ECEC View Post

I need to find a good place for cheap 3D Blurays, now! smile.gif

I would love that!
post #392 of 1376
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Originally Posted by azaze View Post

. Without these forums I imagine most of the complaints would not exist as users would not even notice that pixel 1213 is out or the netflix menu looks hazy. To each their own.

Keep in mind that many folks post, including myself, if they have had problems with some of these units. I am sure there are many, many people that are 100% satisfied and never had any problems and never post. We are probably the minority opinion.
post #393 of 1376
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Originally Posted by ben12345 View Post

Keep in mind that many folks post, including myself, if they have had problems with some of these units. I am sure there are many, many people that are 100% satisfied and never had any problems and never post. We are probably the minority opinion.

I understand. I hope I didn't offend anyone. I too used them when my aforementioned set begin having problems. After reading the forums for 5 or so years it was more of a general feeling that got wrapped into my limited posting.
post #394 of 1376
Just found this deal:

_http://www.logicbuy.com/deals/lg-55lm8600-3d-led-hdtv/39546.aspx

$1799.00 plus free shipping. Expires July 2nd (or sooner it says).

Anybody else found any better since the original Tiger Direct offering? I'm hoping Amazon will price-match this one too.
post #395 of 1376
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Originally Posted by boxorox87 View Post

I want to make this perfectly clear:
There is one guy in here who has diagnosed his problems as due to over heating. One person says that the TV will not hold its settings because it gets too hot. It sure sounds like an engineer diagnosed that.
I made a serious effort last night to overheat my set.....no dice. not even warm....not even close to warm. Not even as warm as my cell when I pull it out of my pocket. This is after a 1-1/2 Bluray and 1 hour of DTV and 3 hours of gaming.
Don't label the 8600 line of TVs as bad because of one report or even two reports. One person can say something and make everyone else start to hallucinate. As for rebooting.....I'm sure that happens too, but not to me. Not once, not ever. I have a crappy, overloaded electrical line too. In fact I am going to run another circuit because I just need too.
Now, the Toshiba 50H81 I just replaced, that rebooted. It was not due to overheating. It seemed to be due to static electricity. It did not happen often, maybe a few times a year.
I love this TV......I really cannot imagine a better edgelit TV. I think Toshiba is a nice design, but really do not care.
Mine is the 55". Maybe the 47" model is plagued, in which case, it should be separated from this thread.
The biggest issue you will need to deal with on the 55" is flashlighting...or light-bleeding or clouding or whatever the hell you want to call it. It is comforting to know......all edge-lit LED LCD TVs have it.
If you just like to try out every model from every manufacturer and look for all the little flaws, so you can report back to us on a forum like this, please do not hesitate to try out this model.
I think the trick would be......buy a TV, then quit shopping for them. Defective for one person, does not make it defective for all.

I've gone through three 55LM8600's. On the second one, it happened at one apartment complex with cable company A, and then at another apartment complex with cable company B. All 3 have done it. They have all 3 done it on all inputs, both analog and digital. On the first TV, the main board was even replaced.
I think I have done all I can to eliminate inputs, power sources, and cable sources. I have shown video evidence on the forum. I believe the issue to be overheating yes, but I cannot prove it. I know the other user on here had his white balance problems with overheating. I cannot think of anything else it could be other than a design flaw. Im not really sure, all I know is that it happens and it sucks. I can only report my problem. I do love the TV a lot. At this point I am going to try exchanging the 8600 with the 7600, as I really like these TV's. I dont know though what the main difference between the two are. I definately agree that if it works for you then great, as its a great TV.
post #396 of 1376
Differences between 8600 and 7600 iirc:

8600:
dual-core CPU
voice control
2nd TV (whatever that means)
MHL

7600:
single-core CPU
no voice control
no 2nd TV
no MHL

The dual-core CPU is the clincher for me. The 7600 is reportedly quite sluggish.

Here's a link to LG's PDF comparison table: _http://www.lg.com/us/support/products/2012%20LG%20TV%20Comparison.pdf
post #397 of 1376
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Originally Posted by forsaken75 View Post

I've gone through three 55LM8600's. On the second one, it happened at one apartment complex with cable company A, and then at another apartment complex with cable company B. All 3 have done it. They have all 3 done it on all inputs, both analog and digital. On the first TV, the main board was even replaced.
I think I have done all I can to eliminate inputs, power sources, and cable sources. I have shown video evidence on the forum. I believe the issue to be overheating yes, but I cannot prove it. I know the other user on here had his white balance problems with overheating. I cannot think of anything else it could be other than a design flaw. Im not really sure, all I know is that it happens and it sucks. I can only report my problem. I do love the TV a lot. At this point I am going to try exchanging the 8600 with the 7600, as I really like these TV's. I dont know though what the main difference between the two are. I definately agree that if it works for you then great, as its a great TV.
The back of my set does not even get warm.

Did your unit always reboot? Or did it just shut down?

You said this happens with every input??

Did you happen to try it while just using only WIFI?

Is there a possibility that you have something that emits the same signal as the power button on your remote? A stray signal perhaps?

Do you have an amplifier/receiver hooked up to this?

Did you try to eliminate equipment you have hooked up to the set? My guess is that the powering down is being caused by a piece of equipment or a signal.
post #398 of 1376
I agree with Box... I spent a few days glued to this damn site reading all the negative feedback while waiting for my delivery. I was quite nervous, anticipating an issue. I will say that now that I have it so far so good. Still a lot to learn but no issues like those being reported.

If you are worried about the issues, simply buy through a site that offers free returns. Give the TV a 30 day trial run and then make your decision whether to keep it.
post #399 of 1376
I currently own the LM7600. I understand that the dual-core in the LM8600 helps speed up moving from one menu or window to another on the apps or Netflix, etc. But does the LM8600 dual-core CPU also help with the actual streaming speed or improve the picture quality of Netflix streamed movies?
post #400 of 1376
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Originally Posted by boxorox87 View Post

The back of my set does not even get warm.
Did your unit always reboot? Or did it just shut down?
You said this happens with every input??
Did you happen to try it while just using only WIFI?
Is there a possibility that you have something that emits the same signal as the power button on your remote? A stray signal perhaps?
Do you have an amplifier/receiver hooked up to this?
Did you try to eliminate equipment you have hooked up to the set? My guess is that the powering down is being caused by a piece of equipment or a signal.

All three have always rebooted, never shut down
As for every input, it has happened on: Analogue red/yellow/white (second cable box/company), HDMI 1 (first cable box/company), HDMI 2 (DVD player), HDMI 3 (PS3) have not tried HDMI 4 yet or component.
Wifi: Happened with both Wifi and hard-wire ethernet
As far as the stray signal, that is a good idea, but I would think that if it was the same as the power button, wouldn't it shut off instead of rebooting? it would have to always send the stray signal twice, and at the same interval (as the reboots always last the same length of time)
it is of course a possibility, i can't rule it out, but it seems given the behavior to be unlikely.
I do not have an amplifier/receiver
As far as eliminating equipment, the only things I can unplug are the DVD player (A new LG 3D dvd player) and my PS3, I will unplug both of those tonight and give it a try.

Another piece of advice i ran across was to turn off automatic firmware updates/checks, as when it goes to look for the update, it can sometimes have problems, so Im going to try that as well.
post #401 of 1376
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Originally Posted by forsaken75 View Post

All three have always rebooted, never shut down
As for every input, it has happened on: Analogue red/yellow/white (second cable box/company), HDMI 1 (first cable box/company), HDMI 2 (DVD player), HDMI 3 (PS3) have not tried HDMI 4 yet or component.
Wifi: Happened with both Wifi and hard-wire ethernet
As far as the stray signal, that is a good idea, but I would think that if it was the same as the power button, wouldn't it shut off instead of rebooting? it would have to always send the stray signal twice, and at the same interval (as the reboots always last the same length of time)
it is of course a possibility, i can't rule it out, but it seems given the behavior to be unlikely.
I do not have an amplifier/receiver
As far as eliminating equipment, the only things I can unplug are the DVD player (A new LG 3D dvd player) and my PS3, I will unplug both of those tonight and give it a try.
Another piece of advice i ran across was to turn off automatic firmware updates/checks, as when it goes to look for the update, it can sometimes have problems, so Im going to try that as well.

I think a stray signal would just shut it off, but a surge or a something like that from another piece of equipment could do it.

My best suggestion would be, disconnect everything including audio cables and use WIFI........just run youtube or netflix for awhile and see if it happens, if it does not, it is being caused by another piece of equipment.
Then, connect the dvd player....disconnect everything else....cable, satellite, PS3.....everything except the DVD player, then run dvds for awhile to see if it happens.
If it does not, do the same thing with each piece of equipment, until it happens again.

How often does it reboot?
post #402 of 1376
Thread Starter 
O.K. I have a major gripe about this TV now.

If you are a gamer, do NOT buy this TV if you plan to play the 360 on it.(I do not know if it is the same on a PS3.)
The input lag is horrendous and I have not been able to solve it yet. I am still working on it, but at this time......If I new the input lag issue before, I would not have bought this TV.

And no.....I do not need any suggestions on how to fix it. If there is a way, I will find it.
post #403 of 1376
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Originally Posted by sat9090 View Post


Would surely try today.Have scratched my head over this.. changed couple of hdmi and few hours with LG n samsung reps (Samsung d6500w i have) no one was able to figure out and finally m getting my sound through Optical Audio. kept saying to myself there has to be a way to get sound through ARC.

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Originally Posted by danray22 View Post


Thank you SO much for this. I've been trying to figure out why I couldn't get ARC to work (I have 55LM8600 and Pioneer VSX-1121-k). I was beginning to think I would need to send either the TV or receiver back. But thanks to your post, I've turned on SimpLink and ARC works now. LG should make this noted somewhere that simply setting the audio settings for ARC won't work, you need to find the SimpLink setting (which is not even in the settings menu!).

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Originally Posted by HenDokuYaku View Post

I still say this is a great TV. I wish they made a 65 inch version.


Has anyone gotten ARC to work with this TV? I have a Denon 3311 with this LG, but I can't get the LG to send audio back to the receiver. I followed all the instructions necessary ( turning ARC on the TV and HDMI Control on the receiver).

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Originally Posted by HenDokuYaku View Post


Ok, I finally figured it out. In order for ARC to work, you have to have the following things:


1) high speed hdmi cable 1.4a

2) be plugged into the appropriate ARC inputs

3)turn on HDMI CEC on the receiver

4)turn on ARC on the TV sound settings

5)turn on SimpLink on the TV which is equivalent to HDMI CEC


P.S. Of course the TV and receiver have to be ARC compatible.


It WORKED! For About 24hours then it stopped working. mad.gif
I Have a 55LM8600 paired with a SAMSUNG HT-E5500W BluRay/Receiver Combo.
For the Life of me I can't figure out what happened but I can no longer get these two devices to play nice via ARC after my original success.
post #404 of 1376
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Originally Posted by boxorox87 View Post

O.K. I have a major gripe about this TV now.
If you are a gamer, do NOT buy this TV if you plan to play the 360 on it.(I do not know if it is the same on a PS3.)
The input lag is horrendous and I have not been able to solve it yet. I am still working on it, but at this time......If I new the input lag issue before, I would not have bought this TV.
And no.....I do not need any suggestions on how to fix it. If there is a way, I will find it.

Hi Box. I noticed the same thing. I recently sent it back for Samsung ES7500. I tried everything as well. The best settings I could find was using HDMI4, labeling as PC and putting in game mode. That knocked down the Rock Band calibration down to 101 ms. When I had the LM7600, then same settings produced a rock band calibration of 56 ms. I think the wireless guitar introduces about 20 ms so you can probably knock that off what rock band says the lag is.

I really noticed it with shooters.
post #405 of 1376
If you are a gamer, the Toshibha model 55L6200 (or 7200) is much better. The lag is almost not there & PQ is amazing. Only downside is lack of Apps & no flash support yet. But for Pure gaming and watching 2D & 3D the TV is very good. I own it and is very good. I am trying to get LM8600 to compare the PQ but waiting for a good deal biggrin.gif
post #406 of 1376
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Originally Posted by aaronwalker1974 View Post

Hi Box. I noticed the same thing. I recently sent it back for Samsung ES7500. I tried everything as well. The best settings I could find was using HDMI4, labeling as PC and putting in game mode. That knocked down the Rock Band calibration down to 101 ms. When I had the LM7600, then same settings produced a rock band calibration of 56 ms. I think the wireless guitar introduces about 20 ms so you can probably knock that off what rock band says the lag is.
I really noticed it with shooters.

Games that can calibrate for lag should be the wave of the future!!
post #407 of 1376
It works good for a game like rockband, but I can't imagine the netcode needed to make it work for fighters / shooters.
post #408 of 1376
I just received my 47lm8600 yesterday from Amazon.. I just unboxed it last night to make sure no cracks/etc. The TV looks VERY nice. The Magic Remote will probably not be used too much as I have a Harmony 700 in the bedroom.

I went to the web to browse a 3d movie and loaded up some Whale thing and it looked pretty sharp.

This thing is so thin i'm almost scared to grab it. I haven't opened the manual but does anyone know what the smaller piece of black plastic is for? looked like a stand but is way too small.
post #409 of 1376
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Originally Posted by tgenius View Post

I just received my 47lm8600 yesterday from Amazon.. I just unboxed it last night to make sure no cracks/etc. The TV looks VERY nice. The Magic Remote will probably not be used too much as I have a Harmony 700 in the bedroom.
I went to the web to browse a 3d movie and loaded up some Whale thing and it looked pretty sharp.
This thing is so thin i'm almost scared to grab it. I haven't opened the manual but does anyone know what the smaller piece of black plastic is for? looked like a stand but is way too small.

Are you talking about the second piece to the stand. The stand is assembled by two pieces. one pieces attaches both to the TV and the stand
post #410 of 1376
55LM8600 on sale for $1699.95:

_http://www.electronics-expo.com/lg-55lm8600-55-240hz-3d-smart-led-dual-co

I got TigerDirect to price match something else from this site, so they'll probably match this one too. Maybe Amazon will match it as well I hope.

You have to register on the site and add it to your cart to see the price. Get the guy on the phone at TigerDirect or Amazon to do the same thing.

EDIT: Nvm about Amazon, their website says it usually ships in "2 to 3 months" Deals will surely have changed by then.
Edited by Valcyon - 6/29/12 at 7:24pm
post #411 of 1376
Does anyone that has compared the 8600 with the 7600 know if the Netflix streaming on the 8600 is faster, smoother or better quality than on the 7600?
post #412 of 1376
I bought the 55LM8600 a few weeks ago and have been experiencing a lot of problems with audio/ video syncing properly. I am using the speakers on the TV and have tried all inputs and different HDMI cables and without fail the tv loses audio sync about 40 minutes into use. I have tried contacting LG customer support about this (web chat) and their suggestions have not rectified the problem.

Has anyone had this problem or have any suggestions? I have the Audio Sync turned on and have played with different settings (Cinema, Game, etc). I'm just about ready to send it back to Amazon...but wanted to see if anyone had a last minute suggestion.

thanks in advance.
post #413 of 1376
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Originally Posted by guykite View Post

been experiencing a lot of problems with audio/ video syncing properly.

What is your source material?
post #414 of 1376
Well I received my 2nd 55LM8600 today and I'm very satisfied so far. My first was damaged (dented back panel) and had severe clouding/flashlighting. It has an April build date. I have some minor flashlighting but it's about 90% improved from my first 8600 and on par, if not better than my 5 year old Philips tv.

I also did myself a favor and bought the standard remote ($12) from Sears parts. The wand remote is great for the apps but I prefer the standard remote for normal television viewing.
post #415 of 1376
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Originally Posted by brinyhenry View Post

Well I received my 2nd 55LM8600 today and I'm very satisfied so far. My first was damaged (dented back panel) and had severe clouding/flashlighting. It has an April build date. I have some minor flashlighting but it's about 90% improved from my first 8600 and on par, if not better than my 5 year old Philips tv.
I also did myself a favor and bought the standard remote ($12) from Sears parts. The wand remote is great for the apps but I prefer the standard remote for normal television viewing.

do you by chance have a part number for that remote?
post #416 of 1376
Yep. The part number is AKB73615313 and the price $12.26, roughly about $20 with shipping.
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post #418 of 1376
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Originally Posted by kwarner View Post

What is your source material?

My source material is my Cable Box. Samsung DVR. I have hooked up 2 seperate boxes and still the same problem.

I have a couple days left to return the TV...hoping to find a solution.
post #419 of 1376
Just ordered one off Amazon, 47LM8600. See how things go!
post #420 of 1376
Personal update: I had ordered a Toshiba 55L7200U from Tigerdirect, but they cancelled my order b/c the TV was only available in Canadia apparently.

I got them to substitute an LG 55LM8600 instead....for $1599.00. w00t. I was impatient enough for the Toshiba, now I'm even more impatiently waiting for the LG. smile.gif
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