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post #691 of 1376
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Originally Posted by baka61 View Post

Before you call something BS, you should do your homework. Call LG. Everything I told you is true, according to LG. As I said, when I asked them to send me, or allow me,
to have previous firmware, they said it was not possible and they don't give it out. Before you call someone a liar, you should do your own homework. That is simply rude.
If indeed, LG was telling me the truth, I am grateful that I got to the firmware online for my tv put onto a usb stick. Whether or not the LG reps were simply uninformed,
that's another issue that could be possible. I am simply relaying all the information I have been told during my 6 hours worth of phone calls to LG, Sears, and Sears tech.
Next time, before you make such a statement, please do the responsible thing, and reply with information you have sought out.

BS. I know you can revert. i HAVE DONE IT......and I did not go call LG, I read it....studied it....and did it. Find it yourself. It's in these forums. You are misinformed...
post #692 of 1376
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Originally Posted by boxorox87 View Post

I call BS on most of this.....
I believe you can also revert to a previous firmware. It's documented.

One other thing.....if you say it is documented, would you please provide where it is documented so that we can find it?
Thank you.
post #693 of 1376
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Originally Posted by boxorox87 View Post

BS. I know you can revert. i HAVE DONE IT......and I did not go call LG, I read it....studied it....and did it. Find it yourself. It's in these forums. You are misinformed...

I don't believe you, sorry. And, if you really had the answer, you should share it, since this is a forum. I think you are just stirring
the pot here, and I'm done. Thanks.
post #694 of 1376
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Originally Posted by baka61 View Post

I don't believe you, sorry. And, if you really had the answer, you should share it, since this is a forum. I think you are just stirring
the pot here, and I'm done. Thanks.



That's right...I started this thread. I did it to stir the pot I created.
post #695 of 1376
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Originally Posted by boxorox87 View Post

That's right...I started this thread. I did it to stir the pot I created.

Sorry, didn't know you were God here if you started a thread. Thought it was a forum where people were equally able to put into the pot. I didn't know
it was controlled by the Thread Starter. Perhaps I'll seek another forum that is willing to share info instead of blasting someone that has spent
hours talking WITH the company. Quite frankly, I think you are lying, because in one of your posts you wrote, "I believe," meaning, "I think
maybe....." See, I think you are just someone that has a big ego and needs to beat his chest. Not interested, thank you. I'll move along now.
post #696 of 1376
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Originally Posted by baka61 View Post

Sorry, didn't know you were God here if you started a thread. Thought it was a forum where people were equally able to put into the pot. I didn't know
it was controlled by the Thread Starter. Perhaps I'll seek another forum that is willing to share info instead of blasting someone that has spent
hours talking WITH the company. Quite frankly, I think you are lying, because in one of your posts you wrote, "I believe," meaning, "I think
maybe....." See, I think you are just someone that has a big ego and needs to beat his chest. Not interested, thank you. I'll move along now.

I owe you nothing....I'll give you a hint though.
http://openlgtv.org.ru/wiki/index.php/How_to_backup_TV_firmware
post #697 of 1376
Anyone know where one can find the firmware update logs. As in what was fixed to warrant the update. I think ive looked everywhere on this forum and the world wide electric web for it, to no avail. probaby searching the wrong things as I did end up on a grandam style fan site at one point.
post #698 of 1376
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Originally Posted by MrJu5to View Post

Anyone know where one can find the firmware update logs. As in what was fixed to warrant the update. I think ive looked everywhere on this forum and the world wide electric web for it, to no avail. probaby searching the wrong things as I did end up on a grandam style fan site at one point.
give LG a call and im sure they will help you with your question.
post #699 of 1376
That's a bloody awesome suggestion. Wish had of thought of that.

Based on that great piece of help lets just shut down this entire forum and replace it with a sticky "ring the the manufacturer".

Fnkme. Worlds problems have been solved right there. Twat.
post #700 of 1376
Geeze what's with all the tudes?
post #701 of 1376
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Originally Posted by caseycjc View Post

Geeze what's with all the tudes?

Yeah tops isn't it. My second post on here and I get attitude from some numpty. Makes me wonder why I bothered. Real welcoming.
post #702 of 1376
What do you guys have as your sound settings? We haven't really talked about that yet.

I actually have a spreadsheet of the settings you guys have. I'm going to go through and find out where most of you agree (for example, only 1 of you had TruMotion set to On). I'll calibrate based on what I'm able to glean from this sheet. Seems anal, I know, but since this tv has so many settings, I felt it was best to crowdsource the calibration settings.
post #703 of 1376
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Originally Posted by VacTacks11 View Post

What do you guys have as your sound settings? We haven't really talked about that yet.
I actually have a spreadsheet of the settings you guys have. I'm going to go through and find out where most of you agree (for example, only 1 of you had TruMotion set to On). I'll calibrate based on what I'm able to glean from this sheet. Seems anal, I know, but since this tv has so many settings, I felt it was best to crowdsource the calibration settings.

Thats a good question VacTacks. I bet your sound data collection gives you more variables however. As I believe there would be a lot more audio differences among us. Size of room, distance, even floor covering down to even if its wall mounted or stand. To be honest, the internal speakers on these things are not great, almost average. I dare say most enthusiasts are running through sound system. Definately when gaming or movie watching. Im in a small house with young kidsa nd early bedtimes, so im spending most of my viewing time burried under my sennheisers headfones.

I would love to see your findings on Video settings. Something Ive been struggling with since purchasing my unit a few months ago. Trying to find the balance on so many inputs is the frustrating thing. Be great if the unit had more than 2 user settings here.

But yes, consider me subscribed to your findings. biggrin.gif
post #704 of 1376
I have tried some settings for the tv i have read online but ok some were for the 7600 - To my eyes the results on my 8600 were very bad.

After latest update in Australia for LM8600 04.10.08 the video audio out of synch problem when playing video from a HD seems to have been fixed.

My settings are

setting under expert 1

Backlight = 45
Contrast = 70
Brightness = 45
H Sharp = 20
V Sharp = 20
Color = 60
Tint = 0

Expert Control
Dynamic contrast = Low
Super Resolution = on
Color Gamut = Standard
Edge Enhancer = High
Color Filter = off
Expert Pattern = off
Gama = 2.2
White balance & colour management = I have not touched

Picture Option
Noise Reduction = Medium
mpeg noise reduction = Medium
Real Cinema = on
LED Local Dimming = High
True Motion = Clear

Sound
Sound Mode = Standard
Sound Option = Normal
Clear Voice 2 = On 2
av synch = on

I have the energy saver setting to minimum
post #705 of 1376
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Originally Posted by HighwayRhode View Post

I have tried some settings for the tv i have read online but ok some were for the 7600 - To my eyes the results on my 8600 were very bad.
After latest update in Australia for LM8600 04.10.08 the video audio out of synch problem when playing video from a HD seems to have been fixed.
My settings are
setting under expert 1
Backlight = 45
Contrast = 70
Brightness = 45
H Sharp = 20
V Sharp = 20
Color = 60
Tint = 0
Expert Control
Dynamic contrast = Low
Super Resolution = on
Color Gamut = Standard
Edge Enhancer = High
Color Filter = off
Expert Pattern = off
Gama = 2.2
White balance & colour management = I have not touched
Picture Option
Noise Reduction = Medium
mpeg noise reduction = Medium
Real Cinema = on
LED Local Dimming = High
True Motion = Clear
Sound
Sound Mode = Standard
Sound Option = Normal
Clear Voice 2 = On 2
av synch = on
I have the energy saver setting to minimum


There you go....a matter of taste for sure.
On my TV, there is absolutely no reason for noise reductions to be on.
I think local dimming degrades the picture.
Trumotion is always off on movies.
I never use edge enhancer.
I do not use super resolution either....unless I am streaming, or watching anything that is not HD.
My contrast is higher.
My backlight is lower.
post #706 of 1376
Yeah I definitely think that everyone's taste is different. I tried the CNET settings a few pages back and hated it. So I've tweaked each input manually based on what they do. I still haven't perfected it, but it's damn near close to what I like.

There are a few things like Super Resolution and Noise Reduction that I have no idea what they actually do. TruMotion I've set manually to 1 on all inputs (except Gaming) and it looks superb. I've tried a few different games and haven't experienced any lag on my settings.

Overall, a beautiful TV. I've run some SBS 3D mkv files through my Plex Server and man they look awesome, as well I've tried a few 3D Blu-ray's and they look amazing. Haven't tried any of the true 3D movies (like Avatar or Prometheus) yet though. The performance on this TV is stunning and easily one of the best purchases I've ever made.

Nothing negative to say about this TV on my end.
post #707 of 1376
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Originally Posted by boxorox87 View Post

There you go....a matter of taste for sure.
On my TV, there is absolutely no reason for noise reductions to be on.
I think local dimming degrades the picture.
Trumotion is always off on movies.
I never use edge enhancer.
I do not use super resolution either....unless I am streaming, or watching anything that is not HD.
My contrast is higher.
My backlight is lower.

For me it was a combo of using the picture wizard and then going through and fiddling with the settings - I don't know what edge enhancer does for example but if it happened to be on and i switched it off and there was no change to the picture then i would leave it on , same if it was originally off i would leave it off.

It mostly matters what the quality of your source video is - blu-ray looks great . in Australia over the air channels best you get is 1080 i and that also looks very good.
That is when it actually is 1080 i. All other video looks good but is what it is - episode of Happy days from 30 years ago looks good , episode of Raymond from 10 years ago can have less quality.

Perhaps my eyes have not been trained but i don't mind - I'm not searching for the holly grail of black for example because to me the blacks on the tv look black , don't have any blurring at all or problems with fast moving pictures - Just from what i read getting a good black and clear explosions can be hard to get.
post #708 of 1376
If use an htpc for all or most of my "smart" content would i be better served with the xxlm8600 or 7600?
post #709 of 1376
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Originally Posted by nosnammt View Post

If use an htpc for all or most of my "smart" content would i be better served with the xxlm8600 or 7600?

One model does not have more "smart" features over the other. They are the same in that category.
post #710 of 1376
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Originally Posted by HighwayRhode View Post

For me it was a combo of using the picture wizard and then going through and fiddling with the settings - I don't know what edge enhancer does for example but if it happened to be on and i switched it off and there was no change to the picture then i would leave it on , same if it was originally off i would leave it off.
It mostly matters what the quality of your source video is - blu-ray looks great . in Australia over the air channels best you get is 1080 i and that also looks very good.
That is when it actually is 1080 i. All other video looks good but is what it is - episode of Happy days from 30 years ago looks good , episode of Raymond from 10 years ago can have less quality.
Perhaps my eyes have not been trained but i don't mind - I'm not searching for the holly grail of black for example because to me the blacks on the tv look black , don't have any blurring at all or problems with fast moving pictures - Just from what i read getting a good black and clear explosions can be hard to get.

I was not trying to discredit your settings. My point is really that beauty is in the "eye of the beholder". I agree with you on the black levels....that are fantastic. I spend more time trying to get the whites right.
Anyway...the biggest 3 factors in the settings are: Lighting, Source Material, and Personal preference.
post #711 of 1376
I tried using Tru Motion (clear) last night while I was watching the football game and I liked it. I was a bit surprised since I personally don't care for Tru Motion.
post #712 of 1376
To clarify I am asking about PQ between the 7600 and 8600. As best I can tell you get a dual core CPU in the 8600 and single with the 7600 which only should benefit you if use the apps. As the HTPC provides all the smart features I could ask for and PQ is the same would I be best served saving the $300 or difference between the two?
post #713 of 1376
Hello every1,

I got my 55lm8600 about 10 days ago, I havnt used it as yet, coz am going to make some changes in my livinig room where am planning to install the tv, but am preparing things, so i have downloaded the calibration disk from this forum, and i had a question.

I need a blue only filter glass to do the calibration of tint and color, the PROBLEM is that i cant get any of those since am living in IRAQ, but i understand that some TVs come with Blue picture mode, so my question is: does the 55lm8600 have this mode?

Thanx in advance
post #714 of 1376
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Originally Posted by nosnammt View Post

To clarify I am asking about PQ between the 7600 and 8600. As best I can tell you get a dual core CPU in the 8600 and single with the 7600 which only should benefit you if use the apps. As the HTPC provides all the smart features I could ask for and PQ is the same would I be best served saving the $300 or difference between the two?

These links have lots of info about each set.

http://www.edinw.com/Spec_Sheets/LG_LM8600_SPEC.PDF

http://www.electronics-expo.com/media/pdf/Manufacturer-Brochure-1021640430.pdf


If you do a search on this forum there's a couple of threads that compare the two as well.
post #715 of 1376
Wow! Cool site with lots of helpful info.

Just ordered my 8600 yesterday from Paul's TV for $1499 (including tax and free shipping). Looking forward to it. Meanwhile, I would appreciated if some can point me to some calibration info (ie. optimum color settings).

Thanks
post #716 of 1376
Ok I gotta ask. I've been reading through and still can't seem to find the answer.

Is it possible to use the Smart Share feature to send the video to my iPad or iPhone?? I can't for the life of me figure it out.
post #717 of 1376
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Originally Posted by c613m View Post

Ok I gotta ask. I've been reading through and still can't seem to find the answer.
Is it possible to use the Smart Share feature to send the video to my iPad or iPhone?? I can't for the life of me figure it out.

No, you cannot do it wirelessly. The TV does not have server functionality.
post #718 of 1376
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Originally Posted by boxorox87 View Post

No, you cannot do it wirelessly. The TV does not have server functionality.

But I thought they marketed this to show that you watch something on the TV and then can take it with you?? WTF? lol
post #719 of 1376
Regarding the HTPC use:

I have the 8600 and use it exclusively with my HTPC., I have 1 thing to mention: If you label the input as PC, you will lose almost all of the picture tweaks and options like TruMotion, EyeCare, etc.

I find the display does a great job, but sometimes I think I would have been better off getting the 7600 and saving some cash since most of my processing comes from the video card and/or media software. I've tried using the features like TruMotion by labeling the input as something else, but it never looks smooth. I'm not sure if that's the TV or the PC since I've never connected anything else to it.
post #720 of 1376
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Originally Posted by bmassey96 View Post

Regarding the HTPC use:
I have the 8600 and use it exclusively with my HTPC., I have 1 thing to mention: If you label the input as PC, you will lose almost all of the picture tweaks and options like TruMotion, EyeCare, etc.
I find the display does a great job, but sometimes I think I would have been better off getting the 7600 and saving some cash since most of my processing comes from the video card and/or media software. I've tried using the features like TruMotion by labeling the input as something else, but it never looks smooth. I'm not sure if that's the TV or the PC since I've never connected anything else to it.

This may not be a solution for you, but, I store movies on my PC. I stream them either wirelessly, or via my ethernet(currently plugged in). I do not run a seperate service....windows media must be handling it.... Anyway, this way, I have all those important video settings because I am not using an input.
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