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post #751 of 1377
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Originally Posted by merlo View Post

I received my AN-VC400 yesterday for my 55LM7600 and just used it with Skype today.
The product page mentions controls by Gesture such as volume and channel up and down, Smart Zoom etc.
Anyone know how to use these? They are nowhere to be be found under settings or during normal use.

If I were you...or just interested, I would search youtube for "LG camera gesture"
post #752 of 1377
I have spent a lot of time trying the various calibration settings posted here and other sources, some settings were quite close to ISF accuracy, while others were just horrible. I ended up buying an ISF calibrator to see how much better I could get it. I was very happy with my final results, colors are vivid, blacks are deep and whites are bright, no clipping of any kind in either. These settings also help alleviate some of the "clouding" or "mura" effects that these edge lit TV's have. (Local Dimming, Dynamic Contrast)

You will have to change the settings manually for each input which is a bit of a pain but should only need to be done once.

These settings are for a very dark room, if you prefer to watch movies with more light you may have to adjust some of the settings to bring the black levels up. I will post those settings for a lightly lit room at another time, as it takes about 4 hours to calibrate in each lighting condition.

Don't forget to change the aspect ratio setting, it aligns the pixels properly and allows for a much clearer and sharper viewing experience.

Also the "True Motion" and "Real Cinema" settings should be off in most cases, the only value I found in these is with 3D content and some lower definition TV shows, almost anything in true HD will look better with these settings off.

I recommend using the same settings for Expert 1 and 2, then changing Expert 2 to either accommodate a lighter lit room or for 3D content.

ASPECT RATIO: Just Scan
ENERGY SAVER: Off

SETTING EXPERT 1

BACKLIGHT 45
CONTRAST 93
BRIGHTNESS 52
H SHARPNESS 15
V SHARPNESS 15
COLOR 60
TINT G7
DYNAMIC CONTRAST Low
SUPER RESLOUTION Off
COLOR GAMUT Standard
EDGE ENHANCER Off
COLOR FILTER Off
GAMMA 2.2
COLOR TEMP Warm
METHOD 20 Point IRE

COLOR MANAGEMENT (Colour / Tint / Luminance)
RED 1/5/2
GREEN 3/6/0
BLUE -10/-8/2
CYAN 3/8/1
MAGENTA -3/0/0
YELLOW -2/-1/0

NOISE REDUCTION Off
MPEG NOISE REDUCTION Off
BLACK LEVEL Low
REAL CINEMA Off
LED LOCAL DIMMING Low
TRUMOTION Off
post #753 of 1377
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Originally Posted by WKampff View Post

I have spent a lot of time trying the various calibration settings posted here and other sources, some settings were quite close to ISF accuracy, while others were just horrible. I ended up buying an ISF calibrator to see how much better I could get it. I was very happy with my final results, colors are vivid, blacks are deep and whites are bright, no clipping of any kind in either. These settings also help alleviate some of the "clouding" or "mura" effects that these edge lit TV's have. (Local Dimming, Dynamic Contrast)
You will have to change the settings manually for each input which is a bit of a pain but should only need to be done once.
These settings are for a very dark room, if you prefer to watch movies with more light you may have to adjust some of the settings to bring the black levels up. I will post those settings for a lightly lit room at another time, as it takes about 4 hours to calibrate in each lighting condition.
Don't forget to change the aspect ratio setting, it aligns the pixels properly and allows for a much clearer and sharper viewing experience.
Also the "True Motion" and "Real Cinema" settings should be off in most cases, the only value I found in these is with 3D content and some lower definition TV shows, almost anything in true HD will look better with these settings off.
I recommend using the same settings for Expert 1 and 2, then changing Expert 2 to either accommodate a lighter lit room or for 3D content.
ASPECT RATIO: Just Scan
ENERGY SAVER: Off
SETTING EXPERT 1
BACKLIGHT 45
CONTRAST 93
BRIGHTNESS 52
H SHARPNESS 15
V SHARPNESS 15
COLOR 60
TINT G7
DYNAMIC CONTRAST Low
SUPER RESLOUTION Off
COLOR GAMUT Standard
EDGE ENHANCER Off
COLOR FILTER Off
GAMMA 2.2
COLOR TEMP Warm
METHOD 20 Point IRE
COLOR MANAGEMENT (Colour / Tint / Luminance)
RED 1/5/2
GREEN 3/6/0
BLUE -10/-8/2
CYAN 3/8/1
MAGENTA -3/0/0
YELLOW -2/-1/0
NOISE REDUCTION Off
MPEG NOISE REDUCTION Off
BLACK LEVEL Low
REAL CINEMA Off
LED LOCAL DIMMING Low
TRUMOTION Off






Have you messed around with any of these?


Pattern: Outer 2-point
High: R -10, G 0, B +7 R 0, G -27, B+13
Low: R +1, G 0, B +8 R -3, G 0, B, 0
20-point
10: R +2, G +1, B -3 N/A
15: R +1, G +1, B -1
95: R 0, G 0, B +2
All Others: R 0, G 0, B 0
Luminance 130
post #754 of 1377
I'm really frustrated. I'm going to buy one of these Tvs:
LG 46LM8600
samsung 46es7500

As far as I know both have pro and cons but I can't choose which is better, If anyone can give a suggestion, I will appreciate.
1- In both Tvs, smart things is sucks. from voice/gesture recognition to application.
2- it seems that black level is better at samsung side. although there is no review on es7500 and i assume it has same panel like es8000 which there is a alot of review out.
3- 3d is better on LG camp.
4- samsung es8000 has double contrast that LG.(with assumption es7500 does so)
5- LG has better angle view.
6- es8000 input lag is same as LG lm8600.( I assume es7500 is like es8000)

Am I wrong about aforementioned info? is there anything I missed? and about clouding or flashlight problem, I found LG fans seems has more complaints more than samsung.

Thanks anyway
post #755 of 1377
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Originally Posted by skunkyjoe View Post

Can the magic remote change channels ?Well mine cannot. I called Lg Canada customer service and was told that even though this feature is built in the Tv it will not work. I have tried setting it up multiple times to my Shaw Direct Motorola HDpvr (which is listed in the options as a choice,but it will not work). This a really disappointing as I like the Tv and don't want to return it . Any ideas?

Mine can change channels but I have Dish Network. The wand can control the DVR and everything since a cpl updates ago.

Also want to mention that I finally got around to calling about a stuck pixel. They sent someone out and are replacing the panel. The LG tech they were talking to said 55in and below they will fix even with 1 pixel defect. Anything above a 55 with 1 pixel issue and they won't fix for free so that was interesting to hear.
post #756 of 1377
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by youngeagle View Post

I'm really frustrated. I'm going to buy one of these Tvs:
LG 46LM8600
samsung 46es7500
As far as I know both have pro and cons but I can't choose which is better, If anyone can give a suggestion, I will appreciate.
1- In both Tvs, smart things is sucks. from voice/gesture recognition to application.
I think this may evolve in the firmware. LG is excellent with firmware updates.
2- it seems that black level is better at samsung side. although there is no review on es7500 and i assume it has same panel like es8000 which there is a alot of review out.
it seems??? not sure why you think it seems better.....I would put my set up against a Samsung ES8000 any day......in my environment.
3- 3d is better on LG camp.
um...to me, this is not a selling point, or a buying point. Figure out which has the best picture for what you will primarily use it for.
4- samsung es8000 has double contrast that LG.(with assumption es7500 does so)
this is simply not true.
5- LG has better angle view.
6- es8000 input lag is same as LG lm8600.( I assume es7500 is like es8000)
I have posted many times about input lag, on this set. I think it is either being resolved in the firmware, or it is only an issue with certain games. I am now playing Black Ops2 and experience zero lag
Am I wrong about aforementioned info? is there anything I missed? and about clouding or flashlight problem, I found LG fans seems has more complaints more than samsung.
I don't know how you can say this either. Are you going by the number of posts in this forum? You will have this issue with all large edgelit panels. I don't think it is hardly an issue with a 46" panel. And mine is a 55", almost completely eliminated in my settings.
Thanks anyway

I think you should buy the Samsung. I think you are leaning that way.
post #757 of 1377
1- In both Tvs, smart things is sucks. from voice/gesture recognition to application.
Quote:
I think this may evolve in the firmware. LG is excellent with firmware updates.
2- it seems that black level is better at samsung side. although there is no review on es7500 and i assume it has same panel like es8000 which there is a alot of review out.
Quote:
it seems??? not sure why you think it seems better.....I would put my set up against a Samsung ES8000 any day......in my environment.

I said seems because of these review. skip to near end of reviews to see numbers.

es8000:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1336393657
lm7600:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1333359799



3- 3d is better on LG camp.
Quote:
um...to me, this is not a selling point, or a buying point. Figure out which has the best picture for what you will primarily use it for.

4- samsung es8000 has double contrast that LG.(with assumption es7500 does so)
Quote:
this is simply not true.
it is simply true. LG use IPS panel in contrast to s-pva panel of samsung. IPS panel has angle view advantage over S-pva but suffers lower contrast.
again you can find proof on previous links and plus this:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/panel_technologies.htm
Contrast ratio
es8000 3209:1 2950:1
lm7600 1800:1 1413:1

again, the problem is: there isn't comparable score for es7500 and lm8600.



6- es8000 input lag is same as LG lm8600.( I assume es7500 is like es8000)
Quote:
I have posted many times about input lag, on this set. I think it is either being resolved in the firmware, or it is only an issue with certain games. I am now playing Black Ops2 and experience zero lag
Am I wrong about aforementioned info? is there anything I missed? and about clouding or flashlight problem, I found LG fans seems has more complaints more than samsung.
I don't know how you can say this either. Are you going by the number of posts in this forum? You will have this issue with all large edgelit panels. I don't think it is hardly an issue with a 46" panel. And mine is a 55", almost completely eliminated in my settings.

I read many posts at official forum of LM8600 and es8000&es7500 (AVS). this is how I said. However, You mention good point about Size.


One more things, does LG play various video format. I can't find any info about it.
samsung mention in the user manual that it can play, it also mention about subtitle and srt format...

post #758 of 1377
Thread Starter 
If you could see the panel side by side....I doubt the published contrast ratio would matter too much.wink.gif

Anyway, that is a great list of video formats. I think it's pretty ballsy for them to actually publish that.

I do not think there is any comparable chart by LG. I will say this....I download and stream a fairly large amount of content. This LG has played everything I have thrown at it. However, not without issue. For instance, there are times when the TV will not see the video on my PC, but if I move it to the network drive that's connected to my router, or plug it in directly to the USB on the TV, it works fine. I am pretty sure that has more to do with media center on my PC. My plan to resolve that is to just store all video content on my router.

I wish I could just get a nice little package containing all those videos formats, in the different containers. I would be very interested in testing them.....just not interested in hunting them all down.tongue.gif
post #759 of 1377
Has anyone had any problems displaying 3D content from their cable/satellite provider? I purchased a 47LM8600, and got it hooked up yesterday. The 3D content worked great from Directv for about a hour, we then switched over to a regular HD station, and then tried to return to it. The unit displayed the dreaded no signal input, but I was still getting sound from our receiver. All updates have been done on firmware/software.

Directv HD-DVR with HDMI into a Denon AVR-2113CI with HDMI out to the 47LM8600. Only one HDMI output to the TV.

Any help is appreciated.
post #760 of 1377
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Originally Posted by atclew View Post

Has anyone had any problems displaying 3D content from their cable/satellite provider? I purchased a 47LM8600, and got it hooked up yesterday. The 3D content worked great from Directv for about a hour, we then switched over to a regular HD station, and then tried to return to it. The unit displayed the dreaded no signal input, but I was still getting sound from our receiver. All updates have been done on firmware/software.
Directv HD-DVR with HDMI into a Denon AVR-2113CI with HDMI out to the 47LM8600. Only one HDMI output to the TV.
Any help is appreciated.

My guess is it may be a problem with the way the Denon receiver is processing something in the signal coming from the DTV receiver. Try running the HDMI directly from the DirecTV receiver to your TV and see if the problem is still there. That will tell you if the issue is indeed with the receiver.
post #761 of 1377
Quote:
Originally Posted by youngeagle View Post

I'm really frustrated. I'm going to buy one of these Tvs:
LG 46LM8600
samsung 46es7500
As far as I know both have pro and cons but I can't choose which is better, If anyone can give a suggestion, I will appreciate.
1- In both Tvs, smart things is sucks. from voice/gesture recognition to application.
2- it seems that black level is better at samsung side. although there is no review on es7500 and i assume it has same panel like es8000 which there is a alot of review out.
3- 3d is better on LG camp.
4- samsung es8000 has double contrast that LG.(with assumption es7500 does so)
5- LG has better angle view.
6- es8000 input lag is same as LG lm8600.( I assume es7500 is like es8000)
Am I wrong about aforementioned info? is there anything I missed? and about clouding or flashlight problem, I found LG fans seems has more complaints more than samsung.
Thanks anyway

Both of these TV's are beautiful. I opted for the LM8600 simply because the salesman gave me an offer I couldn't refuse. At the time if all things were equal, as far as price, I would have opted for the Samsung but after having this TV for a few months I am really happy that I got it.

The color and picture uniformity on the LG is superior to the Samsung, black levels are about the same. I don't use it to game so I cannot comment on that but all the "smart" features that I do use work pretty much flawlessly. Just make sure you have a good return policy from whomever you buy it from in the event you aren't satisfied.
post #762 of 1377
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Originally Posted by caseycjc View Post

Have you messed around with any of these?
Pattern: Outer 2-point
High: R -10, G 0, B +7 R 0, G -27, B+13
Low: R +1, G 0, B +8 R -3, G 0, B, 0
20-point
10: R +2, G +1, B -3 N/A
15: R +1, G +1, B -1
95: R 0, G 0, B +2
All Others: R 0, G 0, B 0
Luminance 130

No i didnt change the high or low settings in that specific color pattern area. The settings in the standard white balance were sufficient, plus when using the ISF tool, and even when using the WOW Blu-Ray disc the colors were spot on, as was the contrast, tint and brightness.

Have you found that those settings help in any way?
post #763 of 1377
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Originally Posted by WKampff View Post

No i didnt change the high or low settings in that specific color pattern area. The settings in the standard white balance were sufficient, plus when using the ISF tool, and even when using the WOW Blu-Ray disc the colors were spot on, as was the contrast, tint and brightness.
Have you found that those settings help in any way?

To be honest I'm not really sure how much those particular settings changed the overall picture. I applied all the settings that I got from the home theater website so I can't tell you which helped the most. I don't really pay attention to anyone's settings as far as tint, backlight, brightness, etc.as I find them pretty subjective to the room and personal preference. That being said their 2 point 20 point and color management settings were what kept me from returning the TV.
post #764 of 1377
Hey guys I'm new here, just got my tv a few days ago. I have 1 slight issue hopefully someone can help me out.

My setup

LG 55lm8600
DENON avr 1912 hdmi receiver (arc, cec, 3d pass through, hdmi 1.4, 6 hdmi input / 1 out)
Direct tv hr24 receiver
LG 3d blu ray bp620

I have my direct box plugged in via hdmi into the receiver
Blu ray is also into the receiver via hdmi
Reciver is connected to hdmi 1 to the tv

Simplink is on
Arc is on

Now the problem

When I go to input on the tv I see Hdmi 1 (directv) and simplink blu ray when I click blu ray it switches the reciver to blu ray and tv works.. When I click the q menu to bring up the remote it shows the direct tv controls and says direct tv at the bottom (remote area) the top where it shows the input says hdmi1 direct play.. Now when I hit input again I no longer have hdmi 1 direct tv I says hdmi1 blu ray simp link

It's like it's confused.

If I hook all components to the tv via hdmi everything works fine with the inputs.

I am thinking it's something to do with the cec control and it being one input to the tv and multiple on the receiver. But from my reading on here the optical doesn't pass through the hd audio from the blu rays (I also tested that, optical passes Dolby digital 5.1) but no true hd.

Any suggestions.
post #765 of 1377
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Originally Posted by boxorox87 View Post

I am not sure what this means. Your source could not be better than 60hz....

I mean that if it were a stand alone player, it would be 23.97 hz for 1080p content, and over-the-air content would be 1080i, or 720p. I wonder if that's why the television doesn't let you pick TruMotion if you label the input "PC"....
post #766 of 1377
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bmassey96 View Post

I mean that if it were a stand alone player, it would be 23.97 hz for 1080p content, and over-the-air content would be 1080i, or 720p. I wonder if that's why the television doesn't let you pick TruMotion if you label the input "PC"....

PC input eliminates most processing that would be done by the TV, including adding frames(Trumotion). It is to eliminate lag...among other things.
post #767 of 1377
I tried WKampff settings on my 8600 and like the settings a lot.

The only issue I have is about every 6 odd minutes when watching anything thru any of the HDMI connection it will flash a black screen and the picture setting will go back to vivid…. Not sure why any ideas?

At this point it only seems to do it on HDMI but have tried much DTV at this point.
post #768 of 1377
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Originally Posted by KalEl63 View Post

I tried WKampff settings on my 8600 and like the settings a lot.
The only issue I have is about every 6 odd minutes when watching anything thru any of the HDMI connection it will flash a black screen and the picture setting will go back to vivid…. Not sure why any ideas?
At this point it only seems to do it on HDMI but have tried much DTV at this point.

I would return that TV. That is not a problem I would be trying to find a work-around for.
My only thoughts are: your video source may have some kind of problem, but this would not cause your tv to revert to "vivid"....your hdmi cable may be faulty, but that would not cause the tv to revert to "vivd". If you insist on trouble shooting, disconnect everything from the tv except HDMI1. Then test for the problem. Then go through each HDMI and test for the problem 1 by 1.

I can't imagine there is something in the video settings you could change that would cause your tv to revert to a different video setting, unless you changed something in the hidden menu, that you should not have.
post #769 of 1377
WKampff, did you post your daytime settings yet?
post #770 of 1377
For those with backlight bleed issues, I was able to reduce mine so maybe the technique I used will work for you. Of course, try at your own risk. All I did is tighten the screws around the backside edge of the tv. I've read a couple places that loosening the screws was a fix but I found the tightening did the trick for me. Before tightening, I could press on the black border around the front edge of the screen and there was almost an alarming amount of give to it. Now it feels a bit sturdier than before, or my mind is playing tricks on me. I still have some bleed in the corners but I think this is unavoidable with edge lit tech. The small spots where light would leak around on the to bottoms and sides have been diminished. I didn't over tighten, just enough so that the screws didn't turn easily anymore. Anyhow, I hope this helps some of those who are suffering the same effects I was.
post #771 of 1377
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Originally Posted by boxorox87 View Post

I would return that TV. That is not a problem I would be trying to find a work-around for.
My only thoughts are: your video source may have some kind of problem, but this would not cause your tv to revert to "vivid"....your hdmi cable may be faulty, but that would not cause the tv to revert to "vivd". If you insist on trouble shooting, disconnect everything from the tv except HDMI1. Then test for the problem. Then go through each HDMI and test for the problem 1 by 1.
I can't imagine there is something in the video settings you could change that would cause your tv to revert to a different video setting, unless you changed something in the hidden menu, that you should not have.

I feel a little stupid as somehow I had store mode on and not home.
Thanks for the reply and a great thread full of info… I will be keeping an eye on this as so far really love this TV.
post #772 of 1377
Hows everyone finding the medialink powered by plex? I frequent the plex forum a bit, but there's not too many people with this specific model. While LG do alot of updates to the TV, the progress on the built in supported 3rd party app is a little slower.
post #773 of 1377
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Originally Posted by MrJu5to View Post

Hows everyone finding the medialink powered by plex? I frequent the plex forum a bit, but there's not too many people with this specific model. While LG do alot of updates to the TV, the progress on the built in supported 3rd party app is a little slower.

I've using Medialink since I got this TV a few weeks ago. It's actually really good! I used to run my Plex Server through my Apple TV 2, and this actually streams better. I've streamed everything for 720p, 1080p and even 1080p 3D SBS content and it plays everything stutter free. I should also note too that all my media is connected to my Airport Extreme, so it's not even connected direct to my Plex Server. Works like a charm! Quite surprised really smile.gif
post #774 of 1377
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Originally Posted by c613m View Post

I've using Medialink since I got this TV a few weeks ago. It's actually really good! I used to run my Plex Server through my Apple TV 2, and this actually streams better. I've streamed everything for 720p, 1080p and even 1080p 3D SBS content and it plays everything stutter free. I should also note too that all my media is connected to my Airport Extreme, so it's not even connected direct to my Plex Server. Works like a charm! Quite surprised really smile.gif

Seems we have the same setup (Side note: have you seen the price Apple TV2's are selling for on ebay these days!!! - Triple what I paid new!!! - since Medilink I never use it anymore, very tempting to sell her).

The only area Im having a bit of buffering is between Airport and TV (wireless) even over 5ghz. If I run ethernet from TV to base station however its very smooth. Be interested to hear if the wireless streaming gets better on one of those new fancy Dual band 802.11ac routers.
post #775 of 1377
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Originally Posted by MrJu5to View Post

Seems we have the same setup (Side note: have you seen the price Apple TV2's are selling for on ebay these days!!! - Triple what I paid new!!! - since Medilink I never use it anymore, very tempting to sell her).
The only area Im having a bit of buffering is between Airport and TV (wireless) even over 5ghz. If I run ethernet from TV to base station however its very smooth. Be interested to hear if the wireless streaming gets better on one of those new fancy Dual band 802.11ac routers.

Funny enough I owed 2 Apple TV 2's and when I saw how much they were going for, I sold them. At it's highest craze peak I managed to get 275 for one, and then I held on to the other one too long and only got 160. But pretty good considering I bought them for 100 bucks each lol. Now I own an Apple TV 3.

I've actually never encountered any buffering issues at all so far. I'm wired into my Airport Extreme, but my Server is technically wireless.I've been really happy with the performance so far.

My only complaint is that some content will automatically enable subtitles and also but the picture mode to "Full" instead of "original" which kind of annoys me.
post #776 of 1377
Same here. Having wired TV to basestation is the key. As Basestation to server is 5ghz/Dual band. So its pushing pretty strongly. The wireless TV to server is the slow part. Ironically adding an extra step in the process, be it wired, is the key to bufferless ive found. Pity the TV isnt dual band. Probably just as important as it being dual core processor. Especially considering the amount of wifi streamed content the public are demanding these days.

I honestly cant believe Plex is a free app. It would easily sell plenty. Its open source free stuff like this that works that keeps my faith in the human race sometimes.

Couldn't agree more on the auto subtitles. WTF? This is a massive gripe on the plexforum, so hopefully the devs are onto it. Would not be a hard fix either. change a "Y" to "N" in the code. Same goes with picture mode.

Still a ripper of a TV. It has its faults, but there is no ideal world when it comes to this sort of stuff, as everyone has their own personal requirements.
post #777 of 1377
New software version 04.31.01 here in the USA

At least the logo light went back to dim instead of high not off though. Got a tech coming over to take a look don't know if I want them to open it up though. Their ordering parts before the even seen the TV , I said it was just a software mess up we shall soon see!
Edited by CELMS - 12/8/12 at 12:06pm
post #778 of 1377
Damn I wish they'd publish what the upgrades were did or fixed. Most every other software companies do it. Geesh LG - shed some light please sooooo frustrating.
post #779 of 1377
How do you program your Time Warner (or any cable remote) to control the TV audio and power? I cannot seem to get the magic remote to control the cable box, so I at least want to use the cable remote for everything (sound and power in addition to the guide, channels, etc.).
post #780 of 1377
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Duffeymt View Post

How do you program your Time Warner (or any cable remote) to control the TV audio and power? I cannot seem to get the magic remote to control the cable box, so I at least want to use the cable remote for everything (sound and power in addition to the guide, channels, etc.).

You need to look up the instructions for your remote. http://www.timewarnercable.com/en/residential-home/support/pyr.html
I have direct TV. I cannot control the cable box with the "magic remote" nor the standard remote(I ordered one).
Edited by boxorox87 - 12/10/12 at 5:30am
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