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WKampff, did you post your daytime settings yet?

Not yet, just got back from vacation. Need a few good hours at home during the day to complete. Perhaps this or next week.
post #782 of 1377
Could be just the firmware I have, but also watch for the energy saver to somehow switch from "Off" to "Auto". I always have it set to off, yet somehow it switches back to "Auto". I frequently switch between inputs, so I'm still troubleshooting to why this is. If you use my settings you will notice because the black levels will be way too dark, even in a completely dark room.
post #783 of 1377
Micro Center has the 55LM8600 SKU 328773 for $1,249 + 3.5% sales tax.

And there is Mail In Rebate for $75.

In store. The store in Paterson, NJ has 15+ left and the one in Westchester, NY has 5+ left.
post #784 of 1377
I would like to compliment LG for this great television. This device integrates all of my content and gives me easy internet access. Picture quality and resolution is superb not to mention the backlighting of the led. My LG was bought in June from Amazon for $1149.00 with the six pair of glasses. It replaced a 6 year on 32" Haier which weighted almost 50 pounds this device is so light I personally mounted it without help. It looks magnificent with the "window" effect and the 2D to 3D is flawless. I've had no problems with setting up the device and was pleasantly surprised by the ISF menus to help with color adjustment. Pound for pound this is one of the best televisions I could have purchased I was almost ready to buy a Samsung but the active 3D presented me with headaches and eye problems but the passive display literally pops off the screen. One last item is the dual core processor I love it when playing games and opening up multiple windows it performs to specs and the apps are numerous.biggrin.gif
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Just set up an exchange for a GT50 to get a 55LM8600, which should arrive Wednesday or Thursday so I'm relieved to see the response in this thread has been generally positive. Scour the net enough and you can find plenty of bad things said about the LM line...though I would image that goes for every TV, with rare exceptions.

As for the GT50, I tend to like a bright image with pop, and the ABL was just painful during hockey, some basketball games, and a few video games, so I decided it wasn't something I wanted to live with, even though I really liked the set otherwise. Plasma viewing is a different experience, and one that's just not generally catered to me. I don't like to watch TV in the dark (only for 3d movies), so that was another thing that didn't help.

Anyway, in my mistake of reading negative feedback, and heard some mention of vertical banding on this set (and its siblings) and wanted to know if any of you had experienced any banding during sports like soccer or football? I've already seen ABL ruin my hockey and basketball viewing experience, I would hate to have vertical banding distract me during football or FIFA on Xbox. I suppose no set is perfect, but considering I tend to view with lights on (not directly in line with the set, since I know its reflective) with a relatively high backlight, would that help or hurt my chances of seeing banding, or any sort of dirty screen effect? A search revealed only some passing comments on it, so I guess that's a good sign. smile.gif
Edited by TerminallyOdd - 12/14/12 at 10:39am
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Just picked up my 8600 -55" from Visions here in Canada. Have yet to un-box it but I noticed it says " assembled in Mexico". I thought they were manufactured in Korea? I hope I'm not getting sloppy seconds and just wondering if anyone else has a set from Mexico?

Regards, Rick
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One more question - I was just reading a review for the LM9600 that mentioned input lag as being really poor. The same site reviewed the LM7600 and found input lag to be perfectly acceptable, even good for an LED-LCD (in game mode). Is it safe to assume the performance of the LM8600 in gaming would be similar to the LM7600, since they basically share the same panel?
post #788 of 1377
LG and also Samsung assemble all their Tvs for the North American market in Mexico. Not to sure about Sony, Panasonic, and Sharp, but it would not surprise me if they manufacturer there as well.
post #789 of 1377
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Originally Posted by TerminallyOdd View Post

Just set up an exchange for a GT50 to get a 55LM8600, which should arrive Wednesday or Thursday so I'm relieved to see the response in this thread has been generally positive. Scour the net enough and you can find plenty of bad things said about the LM line...though I would image that goes for every TV, with rare exceptions.
As for the GT50, I tend to like a bright image with pop, and the ABL was just painful during hockey, some basketball games, and a few video games, so I decided it wasn't something I wanted to live with, even though I really liked the set otherwise. Plasma viewing is a different experience, and one that's just not generally catered to me. I don't like to watch TV in the dark (only for 3d movies), so that was another thing that didn't help.
Anyway, in my mistake of reading negative feedback, and heard some mention of vertical banding on this set (and its siblings) and wanted to know if any of you had experienced any banding during sports like soccer or football? I've already seen ABL ruin my hockey and basketball viewing experience, I would hate to have vertical banding distract me during football or FIFA on Xbox. I suppose no set is perfect, but considering I tend to view with lights on (not directly in line with the set, since I know its reflective) with a relatively high backlight, would that help or hurt my chances of seeing banding, or any sort of dirty screen effect? A search revealed only some passing comments on it, so I guess that's a good sign. smile.gif

I replaced a Panny plasma with this set and I am really happy I did. IMO plasma is better for viewing movies and this is better for everything else. Sports looks way better especially with Tru motion set to clear. (I don't like tru motion for anything but sports but I haven't tested it for gaming)

Ideal situation for me would be to have one of each. tongue.gif
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That's good to hear. Yeah I'm not expecting plasma like movie viewing experiences so I won't be disappointed if that's not the case. Would like it to be close though smile.gif

I know you said you haven't tested trumotion in gaming but have you been using it for gaming at all? Hearing some mixed things about input lag so just looking for feedback on that.
post #791 of 1377
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Originally Posted by TerminallyOdd View Post

That's good to hear. Yeah I'm not expecting plasma like movie viewing experiences so I won't be disappointed if that's not the case. Would like it to be close though smile.gif
I know you said you haven't tested trumotion in gaming but have you been using it for gaming at all? Hearing some mixed things about input lag so just looking for feedback on that.

It is close, sometimes better but I've grown accustom to Plasma so as you said it's different.

I don't have a console right now so I haven't been able to try it. I'm probably going to order a PS3 after the holidays but I haven't decided which package to get yet.
post #792 of 1377
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Originally Posted by WKampff View Post

I have spent a lot of time trying the various calibration settings posted here and other sources, some settings were quite close to ISF accuracy, while others were just horrible. I ended up buying an ISF calibrator to see how much better I could get it. I was very happy with my final results, colors are vivid, blacks are deep and whites are bright, no clipping of any kind in either. These settings also help alleviate some of the "clouding" or "mura" effects that these edge lit TV's have. (Local Dimming, Dynamic Contrast)
You will have to change the settings manually for each input which is a bit of a pain but should only need to be done once.
These settings are for a very dark room, if you prefer to watch movies with more light you may have to adjust some of the settings to bring the black levels up. I will post those settings for a lightly lit room at another time, as it takes about 4 hours to calibrate in each lighting condition.
Don't forget to change the aspect ratio setting, it aligns the pixels properly and allows for a much clearer and sharper viewing experience.
Also the "True Motion" and "Real Cinema" settings should be off in most cases, the only value I found in these is with 3D content and some lower definition TV shows, almost anything in true HD will look better with these settings off.
I recommend using the same settings for Expert 1 and 2, then changing Expert 2 to either accommodate a lighter lit room or for 3D content.
ASPECT RATIO: Just Scan
ENERGY SAVER: Off
SETTING EXPERT 1
BACKLIGHT 45
CONTRAST 93
BRIGHTNESS 52
H SHARPNESS 15
V SHARPNESS 15
COLOR 60
TINT G7
DYNAMIC CONTRAST Low
SUPER RESLOUTION Off
COLOR GAMUT Standard
EDGE ENHANCER Off
COLOR FILTER Off
GAMMA 2.2
COLOR TEMP Warm
METHOD 20 Point IRE
COLOR MANAGEMENT (Colour / Tint / Luminance)
RED 1/5/2
GREEN 3/6/0
BLUE -10/-8/2
CYAN 3/8/1
MAGENTA -3/0/0
YELLOW -2/-1/0
NOISE REDUCTION Off
MPEG NOISE REDUCTION Off
BLACK LEVEL Low
REAL CINEMA Off
LED LOCAL DIMMING Low
TRUMOTION Off



I got the 55LM8600 recently. I do like many things about this TV, though its been hardly couple of days since I got it. One thing I am not that happy is the brightness or the color representation in this TV.

I changed the picture settings for Expert 1 just like to the one mentioned above. (few other places had mentioned close to similar settings like this). I believe this setting should have given me some results. Mine is a slightly light room. Not sure what I am doing wrong or whether my TV has a problem. Please advice.
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WKampff, did you ever get a chance to work on bright room calibration settings for this set? ...or are there are any bight room/daytime settings out there. I have one on its way, and I prefer to watch with lights on (via overhead lights, not sunlight). Is it a matter of cranking up the backlight a bit? Thanks!
post #794 of 1377
Try the settings on Home Theater's website for the 9600, that's what I found the best after trying several others including Cnet, LCD Buying Guide and some others that were recommended here. The main thing is to get the color correct. (to your liking) The brightness, contrast, backlight and other general settings is more a matter of personal preference.

You have a 2 point and 20 point color menu in Expert 1 and 2, and you need to use them to get the most out of the set. I played around with Standard mode today and got a really nice results. After I applied the settings I mentioned I selected "apply to all inputs" I'm not sure exactly what that does but Standard looks great now after I tweaked the general settings.
post #795 of 1377
H i i am the owner on the LG LM478600 but i got a question i have the tv on my room and is dark,when i use the store demo i got good backlight with real and vivid picture but every 10 minutes reset my settings, is there a way to the store demo not reset my settings.

Thanks.biggrin.gif
post #796 of 1377
has anyone else experienced vertical lines more so in the middle of the screen that seems to be from the lighting bars, also when i move my mouse on a black screen i can see the bars of light following it. not to mention flash lighting that must just be normal?
post #797 of 1377
Hi all,

Just got my 55LM8700 and I'm trying the settings that caseycjc suggested from the Home Theatre website. Problem is when I get to the
local dimming option, it is greyed out so I can't select the setting I want. Is there something in the expert mode options when choosing the 2 point and 20 point settings that disables the ability to adjust local dimming, or, is it another setting I'm choosing that may disable it?

Thanks for your help.
post #798 of 1377
Hi All!

I'm going to be buying a new HDTV in mid January. I'm going to get the 47" 47LM8600, I believe... I LOVE the design, and it sounds like the performance of the TV is top notch as well. I don't care about any of the "smart tv" apps - I just want a super thin, svelte TV with fantastic picture quality that does 3D. For all the owners, is this the TV I should buy? Any other recommendations? Unless someone here talks me out of it, I'm so buying this thing smile.gif.
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Well i just ordered my first LED television, ordered a "like new" one from amazon warehouse at $1599 +$44 for 1 year warranty for the LM8600 no damage just an opened boxthey say, i hope it in good condition because its a big savings over $2000 for my local best buy (wich is an hour and half drive away) and i didnt have to pay for shipping or taxes with amazon wich i would have with best buy so again i hope it turns out well because we need an LED for Daylight viewing since my house has alot of windows. i also ordered the Disney World of wonder blue ray calibration dish, im hoping it works good enough for my wife to calibrate pretty close to good (im severly colorblind so she does all that stuff) im looking to buy either the Yamaha YHT-S401 sound bar system or the Zvox 580 sound system have any of you hear used either one if so whats your opinion on those to use with my new 55 inch LM8600 ?
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To caseycjc, regarding your settings, do you use the one's from Home Theatre to set your colors? I just got my set and everything just seems flat, dull, no pop. I want to focus on getting the color set first and then go after the brights, contrast etc. Also, I did not know you could set both, 2 point and 20 point IRE ..... I was assuming one or the other?

Would you mind posting your settings so I can give them a go and hopefully start getting some results! Thanks for your help.
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The LM8600 doesn't come with a standard remote in addition to the magic remote, does it? I'm hearing some complaints about the extra steps involved in switching input, and I'm sensing that will bother me too. Are most of you using a Harmony remote to alleviate this problem, or is there some sort of gesture with the magic remote that enables quicker input switching?
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Originally Posted by jayda View Post

To caseycjc, regarding your settings, do you use the one's from Home Theatre to set your colors? I just got my set and everything just seems flat, dull, no pop. I want to focus on getting the color set first and then go after the brights, contrast etc. Also, I did not know you could set both, 2 point and 20 point IRE ..... I was assuming one or the other?
Would you mind posting your settings so I can give them a go and hopefully start getting some results! Thanks for your help.

I'm not able to do it now but I will. Remember you're not getting "pop" per say from the color settings, just accurate color. I have no idea how my settings, other than the color compare to what was recommended on HT but I didn't care for the majority of them. For example if I remember correctly they had the back light at around 35, I have mine around 75-80. (remember these settings are for the 9600 which has full LED back lighting) They have the contrast at around 70 I have mine closer to 85-90. I also really like almost everything, with the exception of movies, set to cool and sports set to cool with tru motion.
post #803 of 1377
Thanks casey. I set my colors to HT and adjusted brightness, contrast, backlight to my preference..... 100% improvement in picture quality. I'll try the cool setting for sports/movies. Thanks again for your assistance.
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by TerminallyOdd View Post

The LM8600 doesn't come with a standard remote in addition to the magic remote, does it? I'm hearing some complaints about the extra steps involved in switching input, and I'm sensing that will bother me too. Are most of you using a Harmony remote to alleviate this problem, or is there some sort of gesture with the magic remote that enables quicker input switching?

I bought the standard remote from the Sears website. It's a great investment for $25. shipped.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/19/lgs-latest-smart-tv-magic-remote-can-control-other-devices-und/

anyone see the news on the latest magic remote? wonder if it can be used on the current 2012 models
post #806 of 1377
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Originally Posted by jeffro23 View Post

http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/19/lgs-latest-smart-tv-magic-remote-can-control-other-devices-und/
anyone see the news on the latest magic remote? wonder if it can be used on the current 2012 models

That looks pretty cool. I just ordered the standard remote, 35 bucks with shipping I really like the magic remote when I go on the web but other than that I think I will prefer the standard remote.
post #807 of 1377
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Originally Posted by kewlwz View Post

I got the 55LM8600 recently. I do like many things about this TV, though its been hardly couple of days since I got it. One thing I am not that happy is the brightness or the color representation in this TV.
I changed the picture settings for Expert 1 just like to the one mentioned above. (few other places had mentioned close to similar settings like this). I believe this setting should have given me some results. Mine is a slightly light room. Not sure what I am doing wrong or whether my TV has a problem. Please advice.

Make sure the Energy Saver is set to Off first, that is usually the reason the screen can seem darker than it should. Secondly my settings are based on a dark room, so if you want a brighter image playing with the backlight settings would be a start, otherwise you will need to adjust the white balance and that requires a complete recalibration. I assure you that the brightness of this TV is amazing, if it seems like something is wrong on yours, there might be a defect...
post #808 of 1377
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Originally Posted by TerminallyOdd View Post

WKampff, did you ever get a chance to work on bright room calibration settings for this set? ...or are there are any bight room/daytime settings out there. I have one on its way, and I prefer to watch with lights on (via overhead lights, not sunlight). Is it a matter of cranking up the backlight a bit? Thanks!

Sorry, been crazy busy with Work and Christmas stuff, but yes the backlight is the first setting to adjust for a brighter image, black and white levels should also be adjusted but those can wait. Hopefully I'll have something for daytime lighting soon...
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I'm used to Sony XBR TV's so the bar is set very high when I compare televisions; I am more of a quality over quantity kind of guy. For those interested in my review, this TV is amazing, the black levels, colour reproduction and overall image quality are all excellent (Once calibrated). I don't care for "smart" capabilities or what Apps the TV offers, I only care about how my movies and TV shows look. I don't even really care for 3D that much, however I am impressed in how well this TV shows 3D content...

I've had this TV for 3 months now and my ONLY complaint with this TV (which isn't an issue with the TV specifically more of a complaint with the technology) is the edge lighting, without proper calibration I found it a bit distracting at times when watching movies or TV with dark scenes. I have read horror stories with other models of edge lit TV's and it seems that this is one of or if not the best edge lit TV available.

If you are on the edge about this TV, rest assured as long as you don't get a lemon and you spend a bit of time calibrating it (use my setting if you like) you won't be disappointed, just research for the best deal and go for it!
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So my 55LM8600 was delivered today (and P50GT50 plasma hauled away), and so far I'm really, really pleased with what I'm seeing. I don't know if it's just the relief of not seeing ABL kick in during hockey replays, the Knicks game (which I'm watching right now on ESPN and just looks pretty damn amazing) or playing NHL on Xbox, but I'm just really enjoying the set so far. Naturally, I'm still messing around with settings, trying different calibration settings that I've found looking for the ideal one for my not-so-dim living room, but the picture just looks really nice so far. Again, I don't watch in a dark environment, so for me, the blacks seem pretty close to what I saw on the GT50. Granted, not quite at that level, but the black is represented well enough on this set for me.

Navigating menus and moving between apps is pretty snappy, as well. Streaming videos, which I struggled getting the GT50 to play consistently smoothly, has been a much better experience. I have a few .mkv videos that are playing without sound though, so I need to look into that. Videos start up quickly, and using the Magic Remote to skip to certain parts is a breeze and basically instantaneous. This is where the Magic remote makes perfect sense to me, as I found it to be a chore to skip around videos on the GT50. On the negative side of things, it's a little annoying to have the process of switching inputs take multiple steps, but fortunately my Time Warner remote can be programmed to control the TV, and has a "Video Source" button so it

I've heard praises of 3D on this set, but I must say I'm a bit underwhelmed. Sure, it works well enough, but coming from the Active 3D on the Panny plasma, it looks as though the resolution just isn't there. It's quicker to switch between 2D and 3D and more convenient (6 pairs of glasses included, who can complain about that?), and 2D->3D conversion is pretty impressive, but overall it just doesn't seem to have the overall sharpness in the picture I saw on the Panny. Overall, it is brighter in 3D mode though, so I don't have to go reaching for the light switch with this set when popping in a 3D movie...though it doesn't hurt. Perhaps I'm just sitting to close to the set (55" at 8 feet) and can see scanlines, but overall it still looks good enough for me. I'm only into the occasional 3D movie anyway.

I've heard glare mentioned as being a bother on this set, but I believe this is generally coming from people who purchased this set to replace an matte LCD. Coming from the GT50, which itself is reflective but with a great filter, this one is similar, if not just a tad glossier. I have overheard lights that don't reflect directly onto the TV itself, but during especially dark scenes, I can see a darkened reflection of myself and items around the room. It's hardly a mirror so it's not too big of a deal, jut thought it was worth mentioning.

As for gaming, which I've also heard discussed, it's true that this set seems to inherently have pretty bad lag. I don't know how it compares to other new LED-LCD's, nor am I a teenager any longer with super sensitive reflexes, but there was definitely noticeable delay in playing Xbox 360 games when using the Expert 1 settings I used for my cable viewing. I switched over to Game mode and problem solved. Now, I haven't done any lag input tests, nor do I plan to, but switching over to Game mode (and labeling the input "Game") has proven to be an adequate solution for me, and I'm sure it will be for others who have this concern.

So yeah, I'm not regretting my decision at this point, which is a relief. I'm still working out the odds and ends, like I said, with things like LED Local Dimming and whether I want it on or off or not. I saw some slight vertical banding during a soccer game earlier, and noticed that cranking it up to High seems to get rid of it, so that's where I have it right now. Generally speaking though, my feeling is that this was a quality purchase.

Oh, and maybe my eyes are going the way of my reflexes in my old age, but I never really quite noticed the superior motion capability of the plasma while I had it, as it is described in every gloring testimonial I've read. Maybe I would need to see them side by side, but in sitting here watching the Knicks game, with TrueMotion off, and I'm not seeing any of the blurring or trails during fast action that thought I was supposed to be seeing in an LCD. It's handing motion well.

EDIT: ...no need to apologize, WKampff. I'll try out your settings and bump up the backlight. Thanks!
Edited by TerminallyOdd - 12/19/12 at 6:03pm
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