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post #1051 of 2130
After trying every posted VT50 setting I could find, the D-nice settings definitely look the best on my set. Such a natural smoothness that looks amazing! Can't wait for a full calibration to see how much better it will be!biggrin.gif
post #1052 of 2130
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Originally Posted by ruegway View Post

I am trying to Autocal my Panasonic VT50 tv, and have the Control license for Calman5. According to the Spectracal site, and an email received from them, you use the patterns within the VT50 to do the calibration. I am using the HT Advanced menu, and I have no trouble connecting with the TV via wireless, and can get as far as seeing the ISF Day box at the bottom of the TV. I can change various settings in the box by going to the DDC panel, so I know the TV and Calman are communicating.
Question--How do you access the patterns in the television, which is what Spectracal is saying you need to do?
Anyone here have any insight as to how you access the Panny patterns within the TV?

Thanks for any help,
Wayne

Hi Wayne,

I just completed calibrating my VT50 with Calman 5 and I did use Autocal. I used the patterns from the AVS disk (do a search and you can find a link to download). When you start Autocal, it will tell you which pattern to load. It is a bit slow and tedious, but it worked and the results are great. After running Autocal, I did a few manual readings to tweak the results (on both CMS and gamma). If you don't want to download the AVS disk, you can also use the DVE disk if you have it. If you figure out how to use built in patterns, let us know. That would be fun to try. I can understand why the pro's use the dedicated signal generator boxes. That would be a big time saver. For me, since I'm only calibrating one TV and one projector, the manual disk method is fine.

Hope that helps.

Mark
post #1053 of 2130
Has anyone found that the 65VT50 handles one resolution better than another.

I use a Tivo S3 for OTA and can select 1080i or native resolution for its output. 2 of my 4 channels are 720 . Trying to find out if I'd be better off letting the VT50 do the scaling or allow the external source to do it?
post #1054 of 2130
Does anyone know where I can obtain the "break-in" slide show for my TC-P55VT50 ?
post #1055 of 2130
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Originally Posted by 12THEAGLE View Post

Does anyone know where I can obtain the "break-in" slide show for my TC-P55VT50 ?

Break In Slides
post #1056 of 2130
AWESOME, thanks. Do you think it's safe to play it for an extended period of time, or just a few hours a day over several days? Thoughts?
post #1057 of 2130
I honestly believe it doesn't matter. The only concern is I wouldn't leave them unattended in the unlikely event that they got stuck or some error message or other came up on the panel while you were away. I've never seen that happen, but I probably wouldn't start them and leave the house.

FWIW, I run mine of a USB thumb drive.
post #1058 of 2130
Cool, thanks.
post #1059 of 2130
I have settings I obtained from one of the kind contributors here. I'd like to try D-nices settings. Can I save current settings as a default, try D-nices settings, go back to my saved default if I don't like them AND reset the default to original Panny custom settings if I sell the TV to someone?
post #1060 of 2130
you could also just put your current settings in isf Day and his in isf Night,, ez to compare that way.
post #1061 of 2130
Good idea! Thanks turbe!
post #1062 of 2130
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Originally Posted by Glashub View Post

Good idea! Thanks turbe!
Oh...didn't realize you had ISF's activated or I would have suggested the same. I often load new settings to custom to compare with my calibrated settings in ISF Day and Night.
post #1063 of 2130
Have been very happy with robnix settings and decided to give D-Nice a try. The main thing I noticed is that D-Nice settings overall had a brighter picture quality over the previous settings I was using but both work very well on my set. I liked the brighter picture and natural colors of D-Nice and kept them.... thanks for your settings though robnix, we really enjoyed the PQ during the time of watching movies with them. biggrin.gif

I went ahead and tried the 3D settings of D-Nice and no question that I'll keep those. Best yet that I've used for 3D. smile.gif

Thanks for sharing D-Nice!
post #1064 of 2130
I like DNice's as well. On my set, just a little extra red in the picture, but that is me being very picky. Your panel results may vary smile.gif
post #1065 of 2130
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Originally Posted by 7thSeal View Post

Have been very happy with robnix settings and decided to give D-Nice a try. The main thing I noticed is that D-Nice settings overall had a brighter picture quality over the previous settings I was using but both work very well on my set. I liked the brighter picture and natural colors of D-Nice and kept them.... thanks for your settings though robnix, we really enjoyed the PQ during the time of watching movies with them. biggrin.gif

I went ahead and tried the 3D settings of D-Nice and no question that I'll keep those. Best yet that I've used for 3D. smile.gif

Thanks for sharing D-Nice!

I'll have to try these after hearing this. I'll be very impressed if this dnice fellow can dethrone robnix's settings on my set!
post #1066 of 2130
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Originally Posted by JimP View Post

Has anyone found that the 65VT50 handles one resolution better than another.

I use a Tivo S3 for OTA and can select 1080i or native resolution for its output. 2 of my 4 channels are 720 . Trying to find out if I'd be better off letting the VT50 do the scaling or allow the external source to do it?

I find that for me native works best. I have DirecTv as well as cable with Tivo. I prefer native with both.

post #1067 of 2130
So last night I did a side by side comparison of D-Nice's settings to Robnix's with my wife in attendance. D-Nice's were an improvement that was noticeable to both of us so it is also our new settings as well. It wasn't a huge improvement but a noticeable improvement nonetheless, so kudos Robnix, you can 'hang' with one of the big guys on campus =]

The experience has been a big help in understanding what a pro calibration may achieve. I hear that as time goes on our sets degrade slightly in their performance and need recalibration. Thanks to seeing these settings and noticeable improvements that each step in 'tweaking' has achieved, in a year when the set is older and 100% broken in, I am going to skip the 'borrowing' stage and go straight to the pro =]
post #1068 of 2130
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

So last night I did a side by side comparison of D-Nice's settings to Robnix's with my wife in attendance. D-Nice's were an improvement that was noticeable to both of us so it is also our new settings as well. It wasn't a huge improvement but a noticeable improvement nonetheless, so kudos Robnix, you can 'hang' with one of the big guys on campus =]

Did the picture seem any brighter with D-Nice's when comparing the two? That was the main difference that I could see, D-Nice does use quite a bit more contrast though so that might be what I was noticing. My daughter was watching planet earth afterwards and commented about how 'cool' it looked so I sat and watched some of it with her. Man the colors looked so natural with excellent deep blacks. Nothing looked over saturated but the colors blended very well.

I was always impressed with robnix's colors, they too looked very well with nothing over done but just smooth natural colors. smile.gif
post #1069 of 2130
One of the items I noticed is DNice did not use warm2. Wonder why not as that seemed to be the consensus of the board prior his post.
post #1070 of 2130
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Originally Posted by D-Nice View Post

I just updated that forum with the VT50 settings. 2D and 3D are available. Always remember that these settings are not a substitute for a real calibration.
I had been using wmwilkers "night" settings, but I tried these and they seem to give a lot more contrast ratio.

In addition, they solved a problem I was having with non-linearity in moderately large black and near-black areas. Now, I see smoother transitions from black to near-black.
post #1071 of 2130
Hello all,

I have searched this site and read for about 15 hours on this specific issue. Including the entire softness debate. With great respect I will now try a post.

I have had my VT-50 65” for about 2 weeks. I have adjusted settings and the PQ is spectacular.

The crazy thing is I need to keep the sharpness setting pinned at 95 or 100 or the 1080i content from Cablevision is blurry on many channels.

I have a new 60” LCD panel running side by side with the VT-50 and it is crystal clear on the same channels.

I have swapped the feeds back and forth just incase there was a box or cable issue with the same results.


Questions:

How bad is it to keep sharpness at 100?

Any other ideas on sharpness?

Really want to keep this TV but I am greatly concerned.

Thanks in advance.
post #1072 of 2130
So I have tried all the various settings I have been able to find in this thread including topper, wilker and most recently, dnice's settings. All seem a little too red for my panel with the exception of robnix. His colors seem very natural. My question is, as the panel starts to age, will it start to push more red or go in another direction.? It has a little over 100 hours on it right now.
post #1073 of 2130
I'm trying out D-nices settings. Why can't I access 3d settings or 3:2 pull down?
post #1074 of 2130
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Originally Posted by Glashub View Post

I'm trying out D-nices settings. Why can't I access 3d settings or 3:2 pull down?

You need to be in 3D mode to access 3D settings.
post #1075 of 2130
Input a 3D signal or enable 2D to 3D conversion
post #1076 of 2130
Got it. Thank you both!
post #1077 of 2130

I am using D-Nice's 3D settings in my 2D except for the brightness and contrast....Wow!

Thanks D-Nice!

post #1078 of 2130
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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

you could also just put your current settings in isf Day and his in isf Night,, ez to compare that way.

I don't know about a exact comparison between Custom Mode and ISF mode, imo those two modes are a little different..

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Originally Posted by KGB173 View Post

One of the items I noticed is DNice did not use warm2. Wonder why not as that seemed to be the consensus of the board prior his post.

Because most in this thread don't have the equipment to do a good calibration. For reference settings (controlled lighting, dim) warm 1 is probably a easier setting to work with, but for high contrast settings then yes Natural is better.

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Originally Posted by stircrazy View Post

Hello all,

I have searched this site and read for about 15 hours on this specific issue. Including the entire softness debate. With great respect I will now try a post.

I have had my VT-50 65” for about 2 weeks. I have adjusted settings and the PQ is spectacular.

The crazy thing is I need to keep the sharpness setting pinned at 95 or 100 or the 1080i content from Cablevision is blurry on many channels.

I have a new 60” LCD panel running side by side with the VT-50 and it is crystal clear on the same channels.

I have swapped the feeds back and forth just incase there was a box or cable issue with the same results.


Questions:

How bad is it to keep sharpness at 100?

Any other ideas on sharpness?

Really want to keep this TV but I am greatly concerned.

Thanks in advance.

I don't think sharpness of 100% will hurt, but I doubt it will help. I don't really like the Darbee but in your case you may want to look at it for use with Cablevision and 1080i.

Try viewing at night a few Blu Ray movies that have been made in the last year or two with sharpness set at 0, and see what you think of the VT50 compared to the LCD.
post #1079 of 2130
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Originally Posted by Freddyknuckles View Post

So I have tried all the various settings I have been able to find in this thread including topper, wilker and most recently, dnice's settings. All seem a little too red for my panel with the exception of robnix. His colors seem very natural. My question is, as the panel starts to age, will it start to push more red or go in another direction.? It has a little over 100 hours on it right now.

Same here....a bit too red or maybe yellow red.

That's the case for getting a professional calibration. Someone else's settings may or may not be that close when used on a different display.

I do think there is a lot to be learned from D-Nice"s calibration, though. He doesn't adjust green in the white balances adjustments. He did leave color at 50 where at the shootout they used 46 but that was back when the lumanance adjustments were broken.

It'd be interesting to find out what size pattern he uses and what peak white measures in foot lamberts.
post #1080 of 2130
Sorry, double post.
Edited by Freddyknuckles - 2/5/13 at 3:42am
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