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post #1291 of 2130
I believe Jeff, DeWayne, and the other popular calibrators are doing quite well, and there remains a high demand for their services. They are very talented and have invested in expensive equipment. I will continue to use their services. I also love to tinker, and that's where the shared settings come in. I think paid services and shared settings can peacefully co-exist.

Oh, and thank G for this wonderful forum where we all come together and "play".
post #1292 of 2130
I posted this earlier but if you pay for a calibration, they become your settings and should be able to post them as you please, Unless you sign a proprietary agreement, which i don't think happens with calibrations.
post #1293 of 2130
I do provide most clients with the settings on their products. Some are difficult to do because there are so many and the menus are cumbersome. In general it is very misleading to post these. They vary all over the place. This is especially true with Panasonic. Their factory calibration is some of the worst resulting in wildly varying settings. My business is also highly focused on audio for which posting settings is even more ludicrous.

Every audio and video component is part of a system. They all must be considered in the setup of the gear. There is no simple path to the best settings for each.
post #1294 of 2130
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Originally Posted by Mactavish View Post

Excellent retort "powerdubs", you summed it up perfectly. From most if not all posts I've read over the years, the calibrators don't mind if their customers post their final settings, asking first, I guess is being "proper", but as you basically stated already, every panel is going to differ enough from the next to warrant a real calibration if you seek perfection, so you either DIY, or pay to play. I just got my 55" VT50 and plan on plugging in some others posted settings/results, just for fun. The THX setting on this, my first plasma versus my now retired 37" Sharp Aquos LCD, is so dam good, I'm still drooling over the images. My first movie was an iTunes HD rental (the 4gb size 1080p/720p), "Sky Fall", and it was like being in the front row of the movie house. Glad I held out this long for a plasma, seems it's "matured"! smile.gif I know my Oppo83 BlueRay playback will look even better, have to go back and review that manual, for some setting choices I never "qualified for", as now I finally have a "real" HDTV!

You can't make that statement for every calibrator some prefer they are not shared. I respect my calibrators wishes since I would like to do business with him in the future.
post #1295 of 2130
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Originally Posted by powerdubs View Post

Did you get a response to your email?
Just got his response. I will be posting the settings shortly!
Edited by mnc - 2/27/13 at 8:52am
post #1296 of 2130
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

You can't make that statement for every calibrator some prefer they are not shared. I respect my calibrators wishes since I would like to do business with him in the future.

That's why I said: "asking first, I guess is being "proper". Meaning, it's the right thing to do, although as you can see by all the other posts, it's not a big deal to those that do it for a living, or even a hobby. There is nothing to hide, as every display is different, and those that seek out the best quality and can afford the service, always seem happy they did. The subject now is "beating a dead horse". ASK your calibrator if they mind you share the settings you paid for, or not.
post #1297 of 2130
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Originally Posted by Mactavish View Post

That's why I said: "asking first, I guess is being "proper". Meaning, it's the right thing to do, although as you can see by all the other posts, it's not a big deal to those that do it for a living, or even a hobby. There is nothing to hide, as every display is different, and those that seek out the best quality and can afford the service, always seem happy they did. The subject now is "beating a dead horse". ASK your calibrator if they mind you share the settings you paid for, or not.

I have asked and he asked me not to post them here. I understand your perspective we will move on smile.gif
post #1298 of 2130
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

I have asked and he asked me not to post them here. I understand your perspective we will move on smile.gif

It's an interesting perspective on who "owns" the settings and what can be done with them, but I will certainly respect his wishes.
post #1299 of 2130
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

Just got his response. I will be posting the settings shortly!




Saw this earlier today...and was excited all day to come home. Bummed to see nothing posted yet.

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post #1300 of 2130
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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

It's an interesting perspective on who "owns" the settings and what can be done with them, but I will certainly respect his wishes.

Not to belabor the point but I guess I could push it and post them since I paid for them but it's more of a goodwill thing. Anyway its a moot point for me because I would have no desire to post them anyway

Didn't mean to clutter up the thread just offering my 2 cents. I like reading about the VT50 even tho I don't own one. Want one but the 65" is too big and the 55" too small sadly
post #1301 of 2130
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Originally Posted by powerdubs View Post

Saw this earlier today...and was excited all day to come home. Bummed to see nothing posted yet.

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All good things...
post #1302 of 2130
OK, this is my calibrated Custom which is the same as ISF Day.

Contrast 94
Brightness 58
Color 50
Tint 0
Sharpness 0

Color Temp Normal
R High +8 Low 0
G High 0 Low 0
B High -23 Low 0

10 R +9, G 0, B +27
20 R +5, G 0, B +14
30 R +6, G 0, B +16
40 R +4, G 0, B +10
50 R +1, G 0, B +9
60 R 0, G 0, B +12
70 R -1, G 0, B +10
80 R -2, G 0, B +10
90 R -3, G +1, B +13
100 R -4, G 0, B +11

R Hue -3, Sat -6, Lum -6
G Hue +19, Sat +13, Lum -5
B Hue -1, Sat +8, Lum -8
Y Hue +5, Sat -1, Lum +3
C Hue -3, Sat -2, Lum +4
M Hue +1, Sat 0, Lum +3

Gamma 2.4 (65")
10, -22
20, -14
30, -10
40, -8
50, -5
60, 0
70, +1
80, -1
90, +1
100, 0

Enjoy!
post #1303 of 2130
for those who want them, you can get the file to load / settings file for these HERE
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

OK, this is my calibrated Custom which is the same as ISF Day.

Contrast 94
Brightness 58
Color 50
Tint 0
Sharpness 0

Color Temp Normal
R High +8 Low 0
G High 0 Low 0
B High -23 Low 0

10 R +9, G 0, B +27
20 R +5, G 0, B +14
30 R +6, G 0, B +16
40 R +4, G 0, B +10
50 R +1, G 0, B +9
60 R 0, G 0, B +12
70 R -1, G 0, B +10
80 R -2, G 0, B +10
90 R -3, G +1, B +13
100 R -4, G 0, B +11

R Hue -3, Sat -6, Lum -6
G Hue +19, Sat +13, Lum -5
B Hue -1, Sat +8, Lum -8
Y Hue +5, Sat -1, Lum +3
C Hue -3, Sat -2, Lum +4
M Hue +1, Sat 0, Lum +3

Gamma 2.4 (65")
10, -22
20, -14
30, -10
40, -8
50, -5
60, 0
70, +1
80, -1
90, +1
100, 0

Enjoy!

Edited by turbe - 2/27/13 at 4:47pm
post #1304 of 2130
Do you also have your night settings?
post #1305 of 2130
Also of note for the 55 inch guys- by looking at Dnices earlier settings-

Brightness: 60 (58 for 65” models)
Gamma Adjustment: 2.6 (2.4 for 65” models)
post #1306 of 2130
are there some settings missing, such as panel brightness?
post #1307 of 2130
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Originally Posted by submelo View Post

Do you also have your night settings?

No.
post #1308 of 2130
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

are there some settings missing, such as panel brightness?

I'm guessing that would remain set to mid, you get quite a dramatic change if you go either direction with the setting. Tried the settings mnc posted and watched for a little while. Not a huge difference for me from the original D-Nice settings but then again I wasn't noticing the red push that was often mentioned with the settings D-Nice first posted. Blacks looks really great with either one I try. smile.gif
post #1309 of 2130
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Originally Posted by mo949 View Post

are there some settings missing, such as panel brightness?

Panel brightness mid. "Enhancements" Off. wink.gif
post #1310 of 2130
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Originally Posted by powerdubs View Post

Also of note for the 55 inch guys- by looking at Dnices earlier settings-

Brightness: 60 (58 for 65” models)
Gamma Adjustment: 2.6 (2.4 for 65” models)
Blacks are noticably grey with gamma at 2.4 on a 55", but with these two adjustments, the settings that mnc posted aren't much different at all from the DNice "reference" settings.

Remember that all of the settings in the sub-menus are very much "fine tuning", and even with some values different by as much as 10, you might not be able to see any difference on most material. Most of the changes are much smaller than that. One thing it shows is that the gamma accuracy on the VT50 is pretty much the same from set to set once calibrated. For white balance, blue needed more of a boost at most levels on mnc's panel than the DNice "reference" panel, but green was identical, and red was very close. For color accuracy, only very small changes needed to be made.

For VT50 calibrations where the brightness, contrast, and base gamma are the same, it would be interesting to do a statistical comparison of the rest of the settings. I expect you'd see that individual panels don't differ all that much from each other, which is why people are getting such great pictures with post-calibration settings from other sets.
post #1311 of 2130
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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

for those who want them, you can get the file to load / settings file for these HERE
.

Thanks Turbe...Sure makes things easy!
post #1312 of 2130
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

Panel brightness mid. "Enhancements" Off. wink.gif

Your settings look pretty good on my panel. Thanks for sharing!
post #1313 of 2130
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

Just got his response. I will be posting the settings shortly!

What a stand up guy D-Nice is.
He always has bucked the trend of other "pro" calibrators and posted his settings.

ss
post #1314 of 2130
How about the 3:2 PullDown? Do you guys use AUTO or ON?

Thanks,smile.gif
post #1315 of 2130
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

What a stand up guy D-Nice is.
He always has bucked the trend of other "pro" calibrators and posted his settings.

ss

Yes, what a great guy! It was my pleasure to meet him and watch him work his magic.smile.gif
post #1316 of 2130
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Originally Posted by Chobeto View Post

How about the 3:2 PullDown? Do you guys use AUTO or ON?

Thanks,smile.gif

Auto.
post #1317 of 2130
I'll be honest, I don't watch too much TV these days because real life gets in the way, but having some background music on is usually in my daily routine. I have not been running the now famous D-Nice slides, but instead have been streaming music from my PS3 and running one of the default 'display screen savers' native to the PS3 to 'break-in' my 65VT50. If you're familiar with the PS3, it's the moving color image visualization that is constantly 'moving towards the front of the TV' and constantly changing colors and patterns across the entire screen. I have hidden the music/song info so there are not static images/lettering. I feel like this has been a way for me to break-in my set as another option to the slides.

My end game is to eventually implement the D-Nice settings (if I can ever put enough hours on this set), or some of the other settings I've seen listed in this thread using ControlCAL. Any thoughts?
post #1318 of 2130
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Originally Posted by mnc View Post

Yes, what a great guy! It was my pleasure to meet him and watch him work his magic.smile.gif

I'm definitely a fan of his and also Jeff who took the time to contribute to the thread as well!
post #1319 of 2130
post #1320 of 2130
Question-

I'm new to all this, so be easy on me. smile.gif

For Christmas, I received the Disney WOW disk. After loading in different controlcal files and seeing which ones I like, I fire up the WOW disk and fine tune the brightness and contrast.

Additionally, when I get to the screen with the color stripes and the blue filter, I have to tweak the color setting and tint setting to get the lines to even out as per the instructions.

My question is- since I assume this is just a very basic broad stroke approach to adjustment, is it inherently messing up anything else?

Meaning, I realize that a proper calibration of the advanced individual settings the VBT50 is capable of would provide pinpoint adjustments.. but by my simplistic color & tint adjustment am I throwing something else out of whack that I am not aware of?

Currently, on the Dnice file I have to put color at 54 and tint at -3 for the blue bars to be even.

Thank you.
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