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post #2101 of 2130
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

Zmad, Hope this is helpful:


chunon, perfect! Much appreciated - this definitely helps. I can pretty much follow that curve by setting 2.3 power curve and undercutting it in that 0 to 40% range, just needed to have an idea what to shoot for at each step under 40%... Thanks again...
post #2102 of 2130
No prob smile.gif Let me know how it turns out, this is my favorite gamma curve on my display
post #2103 of 2130
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

No prob smile.gif Let me know how it turns out, this is my favorite gamma curve on my display

Will do... I'm looking forward to trying this out.... I like the nice and gradual tapering - this should look good smile.gif
post #2104 of 2130
Chunon, so I re calibrated last night, and below is the curve I achieved - pretty much in the ballpark of the custom curve you posted. I must say I love it! It is truly the compromise between power 2.3 and the 1886 curve. The dark detail is excellent, no crushing, blacks are deep as usual, and overall gamma is great. From the first few hours of watching it, this may just be the best picture I have seen on my VT50 yet... I look forward to watching more content with these settings, but so far it looks great with everything... Thanks again for sharing smile.gif Btw. do you remember what average gamma you get in the end?

post #2105 of 2130
I will look that up if I have the calibration session still but I think it was in the 2.28 to 2.3 range, glad it looks good for you. I got the custom gamma from Chad's advanced workflow, another advantage of upgrading to enthusiast smile.gif One question tho based on your chart you are going down to 1.5 at 0% ?
post #2106 of 2130
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

I will look that up if I have the calibration session still but I think it was in the 2.28 to 2.3 range, glad it looks good for you. I got the custom gamma from Chad's advanced workflow, another advantage of upgrading to enthusiast smile.gif One question tho based on your chart you are going down to 1.5 at 0% ?

Thanks for checking if it's no trouble... Was just wondering how close I got, since my average came out at 2.24, so may be just slightly below yours... Yep, enthusiast is on my list for the near future smile.gif
At 0 the curve is simply based on the measured MLL... I did an 11 point gamma with tweaks starting at 10%... I didn't touch the 0%... Should I?
post #2107 of 2130
You might check 5% see where that is at the 10% control will affect it my experience, as long as your brightness is set correctly the 0% should be correct.
post #2108 of 2130
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

You might check 5% see where that is at the 10% control will affect it my experience, as long as your brightness is set correctly the 0% should be correct.

Good point - I was actually thinking of checking 5% steps for a "finer" curve in that entire area below 40% but didn't have the time yet... Although it tapers rapidly to 1.5 towards 0%, it does not affect the blacks with correctly set brightness like you said... The blacks are as dark and deep as ever... I'll definitely play with the 5% steps when I get to it...
post #2109 of 2130
I have never seen Gravity. For first time viewing, should i watch in 3D or not. I am really excited about this movie - apparently good bass / sound effects as well.
post #2110 of 2130
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Originally Posted by bao01 View Post

I have never seen Gravity. For first time viewing, should i watch in 3D or not. I am really excited about this movie - apparently good bass / sound effects as well.

3D only. Except for it and some impressive FX, there's nothing to look for in this movie.
post #2111 of 2130
But do you think i should watch it for the first time using 3D? or 2D better?
post #2112 of 2130
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I have never seen Gravity. For first time viewing, should i watch in 3D or not. I am really excited about this movie - apparently good bass / sound effects as well.

The movie is outstanding, a great example of: simple story, perfectly executed.

The cinematography is world class, Lubezky should have won Oscars a long time ago. The continuous long takes are unbelievable... I think the opening scene is 5 mins with no cut... u just float there in space with them....

The 3D in theatres was not so great IMO, u could see the Alexa footage loses resolution in 3D.... the 2D version was sharp and crisp and just beautiful.

But the 3D space ride was quite enjoyable...

Great movie, one of the best sci-fi movies in a long time.

- M
post #2113 of 2130
But on my VT50 65" should i do 3D first or second?
thanks
post #2114 of 2130
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But on my VT50 65" should i do 3D first or second?
thanks

Definitely 3D first, otherwise you might even not want to do a 2nd viewing;)
post #2115 of 2130
ok - i will start charging them now - i sit 7 ft away from 65" so it should be good.
Is it better than Avatar 3D? I thought that 3D was so so.
post #2116 of 2130
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ok - i will start charging them now - i sit 7 ft away from 65" so it should be good.
Is it better than Avatar 3D? I thought that 3D was so so.
Wow. That's really close! I'm 13 ft away from my 65" VT50, but if could easily see putting in a 100" screen. smile.gif
post #2117 of 2130
well - i'm using the THX viewing distance denominator of 0.84 for screen diagonal = "immersive"
post #2118 of 2130
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But on my VT50 65" should i do 3D first or second?
thanks

For what it's worth, I watched the 3D first on the evening of the release day. I plan to watch the 2D version at some point this weekend.

Most of the 3D is subtle, but good. There are a few scenes where things do "come at you" though. As others have noted, the audio track is definitely reference.
post #2119 of 2130
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But on my VT50 65" should i do 3D first or second?
thanks

I always watch 2D first as that is always the best quality version.

What they call "3D" is a gimmick that always loses resolution and I think does rarely make the movie better, IMO.

in any case, most important this is a good movie so either or will be okay. smile.gif
post #2120 of 2130
I think i am in Iron Mikes camp. In the past, if i was really excited about a sci-fi or action movie, i would watch in 2D first on the VT50 because i think the colors and the sharpness of the TV is out of this world - spectacular. With the glasses, the colors and sharpness don't seem as good. But with Gravity i'm torn because I've heard it is the best 3D since sliced bread so maybe i should do 3D first. If it's just "subtle" 3D then for first viewing, 2D seems the way to go.

very excited about this movie but can't make up my mind
tonight is the night

sigh ...
Edited by bao01 - 2/28/14 at 10:31am
post #2121 of 2130
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Originally Posted by bao01 View Post

I think i am in Iron Mikes camp. In the past, if i was really excited about a sci-fi or action movie, i would watch in 2D first on the VT50 because i think the colors and the sharpness of the TV is out of this world - spectacular. With the glasses, the colors and sharpness don't seem as good. But with Gravity i'm torn because I've heard it is the best 3D since sliced bread so maybe i should do 3D first. If it's just "subtle" 3D then for first viewing, 2D seems the way to go.

very excited about this movie but can't make up my mind
tonight is the night

sigh ...

The 3D in this movie is outstanding. Be warned that if you're looking for pop-out 3D it's not here, almost all the 3D is intended to add depth and perspective into the scenes. It's incredibly seamless and well done. We'll be watching it in 3D tonight, then in 2D for more casual viewing.
post #2122 of 2130
I chose 3D for first viewing. I loved the film. My favorite movie over the last two years or so.
post #2123 of 2130
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The 3D in this movie is outstanding. Be warned that if you're looking for pop-out 3D it's not here, almost all the 3D is intended to add depth and perspective into the scenes. It's incredibly seamless and well done. We'll be watching it in 3D tonight, then in 2D for more casual viewing.

Lights out then? biggrin.gif
post #2124 of 2130
Guess I'm going to have to buy this one!
post #2125 of 2130
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Originally Posted by xvfx View Post

Lights out then? biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by scirica View Post

Guess I'm going to have to buy this one!

I've watched it twice this weekend. I'm still amazed at how well the vfx and audio is done.
post #2126 of 2130
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I've watched it twice this weekend. I'm still amazed at how well the vfx and audio is done.

I have to admit that I was very skeptical of this film based on the trailers I saw during the initial theater release. AVS has convinced me that I need this one in my home library!
post #2127 of 2130
Slightly off topic for this thread but i thought i would give it a try.

When I power on my 65" VT50, it causes both my subs to have an oscillating hum. It seems worse with a bright / white screen. With a black screen, the hum is barely noticeable. No other part of system needs to be powered on or connected.The amps, pre-pro, BD player are all unplugged from the wall. I don't have a cable box. The subs do not have their XLR cables connected to the pre-pro. All i am talking about here are the power cords for TV and subs. All I have to do is power on the TV and pick a white screen and hum starts.

The TV has a three prong power cord and so do the subs. If I plug both the TV and the subs into a power strip so that they all use same wall outlet, hum is still there. If I plug TV into an outlet across the room, far away from wall/outlet with sub, hum is still there. It seems that if I plug TV and subs into same outlet or different outlets, the hum is always there. All I need to do to get rid of hum is turn TV off or make the screen black. How is this possible? Why only with a white or bright screen?

thanks
post #2128 of 2130
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Originally Posted by bao01 View Post

Slightly off topic for this thread but i thought i would give it a try.

When I power on my 65" VT50, it causes both my subs to have an oscillating hum. It seems worse with a bright / white screen. With a black screen, the hum is barely noticeable. No other part of system needs to be powered on or connected.The amps, pre-pro, BD player are all unplugged from the wall. I don't have a cable box. The subs do not have their XLR cables connected to the pre-pro. All i am talking about here are the power cords for TV and subs. All I have to do is power on the TV and pick a white screen and hum starts.

The TV has a three prong power cord and so do the subs. If I plug both the TV and the subs into a power strip so that they all use same wall outlet, hum is still there. If I plug TV into an outlet across the room, far away from wall/outlet with sub, hum is still there. It seems that if I plug TV and subs into same outlet or different outlets, the hum is always there. All I need to do to get rid of hum is turn TV off or make the screen black. How is this possible? Why only with a white or bright screen?

thanks
You need some help with diagnosing a ground loop because that's what it sounds like. Here is a link that might help.

Bob Pariseau - Ground Loop
post #2129 of 2130
It's not a ground loop - same wall socket or different - makes no difference. What makes a difference is the power consumed by the plasma. I guess a white screen consumes more power than a dark one and for some reason the subs can "see" this power consumption. Maybe the hum oscillates because the plasma screen is being scanned at a certain rate causing an oscillating power level fluctuation.
post #2130 of 2130
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Originally Posted by bao01 View Post

It's not a ground loop - same wall socket or different - makes no difference. What makes a difference is the power consumed by the plasma. I guess a white screen consumes more power than a dark one and for some reason the subs can "see" this power consumption. Maybe the hum oscillates because the plasma screen is being scanned at a certain rate causing an oscillating power level fluctuation.
Our understanding is different. Enjoy. smile.gif
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