The Official Panasonic VT50 Settings Thread - Page 11

Folks have complained that the 10 point on the vt50 doesn't smooth between points as well as it ought. So that you can get all 10 points very close but observe color temperature variations on a gradient ramp in between the 10 points.

What I decided to try is to do the 2 point grey scale using 25 and 85. I can sacrifice a bit of accuracy at 30 and 80 since it's easier to touch them up with the 10 point. I'm not sure how clever an idea that is, but you might want to try it if it makes sense to you.

That's what many VT50 owners (and pro calibrators) are doing (2pt + 10pt to fix the non-linear points).

These are from my first pass of my ISF Calibration using the new firmware. This consists of setting Cont, Bright, color, sharp, 30/80, CMS, full 10PT, in that order. My second pass is tweaking the CMS and then the Grayscale.
Note, These settings are done without using/changing Green in the Grayscale.

These settings are for my 65VT50, 100% Brightness window comes in about 31.2
I used DYI Calman ISF mode for these settings. Getgray for both Garyscale and CMS 75% windows.

ISF mode.
Cont +77
Bright +58
Color +46
Sharp 0
Color Temp - Normal
Screen Brightness - Medium
Gamma Target - 2.4

CSM

Hue - Saturation - Lum
Red-50-49-51
Green-50-56-47
Blue-50-57-46
Cyan-50-53-52
Magenta-64-50-51
Yellow-59-50-50


Gray Scale
Red-Green-Blue-Lum
10 IRE - 4.25 - 10 - 12.50 - 0.75
20 IRE - 20.25 - 20 - 20.25 - 10.75
30 IRE - 30.25 - 30 - 29.25 - 26
40 IRE - 40.25 - 40 - 39.75 - 35.75
50 IRE - 50.75 - 50 - 50.25 - 47
60 IRE - 60.25 - 60 - 59.75 - 58
70 IRE - 70.25 - 70 - 69.50 - 68.50
80 IRE - 80.25 - 80 - 79.50 - 78.75
90 IRE - 89.50 - 90 - 89.50 - 90.25
100 IRE - 100 - 100 - 99 - 100

All enhancement off.

Use at your own risk.



ss
Edited by sillysally - 8/2/12 at 11:46pm

Your camera flash ruined the pictures. Why don't you use the computer's PrntScr function for crystal clarity?

VT50 CMS ranges from -50 to +50. The CalMAN CMS DDC doesn't match. Neither does the Grayscale. Again, the VT50 is in whole numbers from + to - 50.
Edited by buzzard767 - 8/3/12 at 4:40am

I use DIY Calman. It's my understanding to use PrntScr, I would need 3rd party software.
How about this, use your PrntScr that show the same two pages I show with your finalized settings.

btw, do you use in your 2pt grayscale adjustments Green. Or for that matter in your 10pt adjustments.

ss
Edited by sillysally - 8/3/12 at 10:48pm

Win 7 has a screen shot utility called snip-it or something like that.

I use XP.

ss

I haven't used CalMAN with the VT50 but will be doing a C5 autocal next week.

I use green when I need to and that is specific to gamma changes. With the 10p Gamma control in the VT50 manipulating green for Grayscale color balancing is normally not required.

Huh? How in the heck would SpectraCal block the use of printscreen?

1. Push the printscreen button on your keyboard.

2. Open up paint.

3. CTRL-V

4. Save the jpg/bmp.

5. Post here.

I do this all the time.

Can anyone suggest settings for 3D movies. i know that the set should be properly calibrated, but can't afford it atm. I'm just looking for THX or custom settings at this point that will allow a good picture without being washed out or too dark, Thanks in advace

Grab the AVS HD 709 disc (free) or use the Disney WOW disc to calibrate your brightness/contrast with the 3D glasses on AND in 3D mode on the television. I think that's the best that you could help for.

Greenshot is an excellent and free screen capture utility.

Thanks guys.

I don't like to install "free" app's because of spy-ware that end up to be browser extensions or worse. Anyway Tempest was the first to suggest his way, so I will try that.

ss

I agree with sally about that whole "free apps" business. Doesn't anyone question why they would be giving away free apps?

Anyway, on the 65vt50, has anyone had problems with the picture looking a bit green even though their calibration software results look fairly perfect??????

What meter are you using? And how old is it?

Tempest,

EyeOne Display 3 PRO. Less than 10 hours total use.

What are you using?

I have the same meter. I also had a bit of a tinge to my calibration with it, even after the results were reported near-perfect. I'm afraid that's the most you can get out of this meter without some sort of profile by a spectro like the i1 Pro / i1 Pro 2. My recently acquired i1 Pro 2 has yielded near-perfect results, short of having trouble reading around 10 IRE. I'm going to try making a profiled i1 Display Pro calibration next.

When you say " trouble reading around 10 IRE" with a i1pro2, what are you saying slow or just plain bad reads?.

If you got the basic or above package, have you tried the profiling software?

I am asking because of how well the new Panasonic firmware does with my calibrations, I just ordered a i1pro2 (basic). My i1Pro is now about 4 years old now.

ss
Edited by sillysally - 8/5/12 at 12:28pm

The packages don't matter. I have an i1 Pro 2 Basic retail package, where I can use the profiling software. However, that's for computers only. I've used it- it works well. Since you're adjusting the video card's adjustments, it's 100% automatic. You just start it, and walk away. Can't use it on a TV, unfortunately.

FWIW, your 4 year old i1 Pro is probably fine. I read once that they are rarely ever (virtually never) found to have drifted out of spec. That said, the i1 Pro 2 does supposedly have some improvements, though I think they're minor.

EDIT: Oops forgot to answer your first question.

Yeah, frequent bad reads, LONG read times, and suspect results around 10-20 IRE. The i1 Display Pro handles these ranges much, much better.

Got my ISF Day finished. The new firmware makes the calibration much easier. I also see a significant improvement in my picture.
The settings can be found in the XML file in the Zip file.
The report is also attached.
ISF Day 8-6-12.zip 193k .zip file

hmmm... would love to translate this for the custom mode (non-isf) and replace the one you had prior and the night (assuming you updated that as well). Are there portions of the report from which I can grab the settings accessible for those of us that have non-isf modes/access? I remember seeing someone post your settings in a pretty easy copy paste format a while back...

You can take the settings in the XML file and apply them to Custom. The ISF modes (Day & Night) are both based on the Custom mode.

wmwilker

When you say new firmware, are you referring to the VT50 or chromapure?

Did you get a max brightness reading in ft lamberts?
Edited by JimP - 8/6/12 at 7:58pm

There's no spyware, adware, or browser extensions in Greenshot. And honestly, you two are saying there's not one piece of free sofware on any of your computers?

FWIW, Greenshot lets you grab a portion of a window and save it in three steps. Print Screen, Draw around the area you want to capture, save jpg. Super easy and doesn't involve opening up other programs. The whole print screen paste into paint process is clunky and annoying compared to using a proper screenshot tool.

The VT even though Chromapure has updated too. I think the Chromapure is for a Lumagen fix.

Here are the settings. I get a light output of 45 ftL

Settings SavedOn=”2012-08-06 07:19:03 PM” Model=”VT50 - NA”
Main
Contrast 100
Brightness 58
Agc 0
Blackext 0
color 50
tint 0
sharpness 0
wbhighr -3
wbhighg 0
wbhighb 10
wblowr 6
wblowg 0
wblowb -2
colortemp Warm 2
gamma 2.4
colorspace Normal
pnlbright Medium
c.a.t.s. Off
videonr Off
contouremp Off
Main
CMS
r-hue -5
r-sat 2
r-lum -7
g-hue 32
g-sat 43
g-lum -11
b-hue 25
b-sat 50
b-lum -14
y-hue -17
y-sat 1
y-lum 2
c-hue 3
c-sat 4
c-lum 10
m-hue -2
m-sat -9

I accidentally left the Contour Emphasis on in my calibration but it should be set to Off

I was notified that the W/B settings for the 10 point was left off. I'm attaching a PDF that has all the settings. ISF Day 8-6-12.pdf 54k .pdf file
Edited by wmwilker - 8/7/12 at 12:18pm

"Print Screen" is the entire screen. Alt Print Screen is just the active window. Doesn't seem particularly clunky to me, but to each his/her own.

Awesome, thanks! Have you made changes to your night mode since the FW update as well?

Wmwilker, what about gamma detail adj? And also, white balance detail adj?
Thanks totally new at this