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post #331 of 1782
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Originally Posted by wmwilker View Post

Got my ISF Day finished. The new firmware makes the calibration much easier. I also see a significant improvement in my picture.
The settings can be found in the XML file in the Zip file.
The report is also attached.
ISF Day 8-6-12.zip 193k .zip file

Is your Gamma target (2.4) in your settings a mistype?
Your Gamma chart shows about (little less) 2.2

ss
post #332 of 1782
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

Is your Gamma target (2.4) in your settings a mistype?
Your Gamma chart shows about (little less) 2.2
ss

This is why the SMALL APL patterns are key, IMO. They are the only patterns that match up the TV's gamma setting to what I actually get in results. That, and they have the lowest chance of kicking in the ABL circuit.

Any other patterns I've tried result in a .2 shift.
post #333 of 1782
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

Is your Gamma target (2.4) in your settings a mistype?
Your Gamma chart shows about (little less) 2.2
ss

No the 2.4 is correct. D-Nice and others had suggested using it to get a good 2.2. I did very little adjustment to get there except at the ends.
post #334 of 1782
I'll defray the newbie disclaimer as that will become immediately obvious.

I see many references to day and night settings for calibration. How do you set up each with only one "custom" setting? Do you modify "custom" and one of the other default settings, such as, "standard"?
post #335 of 1782
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Originally Posted by richr8 View Post

I'll defray the newbie disclaimer as that will become immediately obvious.
I see many references to day and night settings for calibration. How do you set up each with only one "custom" setting? Do you modify "custom" and one of the other default settings, such as, "standard"?

With Custom you can only do one. Unless you have ControlCal or CalMAN software you can't unlock the ISF modes (Day & Night). ControlCal is relatively inexpensive and you can load others settings in the Day, Night, & 3D Day and Night modes but they may not look good on a different set. You are rolling the dice when using others settings but sometimes they work well.
post #336 of 1782
Is there a specific reason as to why everyone seems to use mid as the setting for panel brightness? Is it a personnel preference or is there an actual advantage when doing an isf calibration. I've always found the low setting to give me a cleaner noise free picture. It appears that my new VT50 has the same behavior my old PZ850U had when switching between mid and low. Any responses will be appreciated.
post #337 of 1782
You can use Low for your reference viewing (unless you like >32fL -/+) but for a day setting (which is really a comprise anyways) where you want enough light output to deal with ambient light, you will need PB Medium.
post #338 of 1782
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

I don't like to install "free" app's because of spy-ware that end up to be browser extensions or worse.ss

Me either. The fewer apps installed, the better.

There is no need for software to do a screen capture. Just hit the PrtScn key which copies the entire desktop to your clipboard, then you can paste into mspaint or any app you wish to save a file. Alt+PrtScn will only copy the "active" window to your clipboard.

Sean
post #339 of 1782
Thanks Turbe, by the way does anyone know if ControlCal works with the VT50 and what connections I'll need between the set and laptop?
post #340 of 1782
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Originally Posted by robbyrockets View Post

Thanks Turbe, by the way does anyone know if ControlCal works with the VT50 and what connections I'll need between the set and laptop?

Yes and all you need is an ethernet cable
post #341 of 1782
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Originally Posted by robbyrockets View Post

Thanks Turbe, by the way does anyone know if ControlCal works with the VT50 and what connections I'll need between the set and laptop?


With ControlCAL, you can also connect to the VT50 via wifi or the ethernet port as wmwilder posted...
post #342 of 1782
Any night settings for those that watch in dark rooms wilker
post #343 of 1782
How thorough is the program, is it at the minimum equal to Panasonic own non service menu?
What is the cost and where I purchase it?
post #344 of 1782
I'll PM you...
post #345 of 1782
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Originally Posted by Ss10zidane View Post

Any night settings for those that watch in dark rooms wilker

Hope to have them later this week.
post #346 of 1782
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Originally Posted by robbyrockets View Post

How thorough is the program, is it at the minimum equal to Panasonic own non service menu?
What is the cost and where I purchase it?

I know Turbe will give you all the info but ControlCal has the exact same settings as the Custom menu.
post #347 of 1782
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Originally Posted by Tempest261 View Post

This is why the SMALL APL patterns are key, IMO. They are the only patterns that match up the TV's gamma setting to what I actually get in results. That, and they have the lowest chance of kicking in the ABL circuit.
Any other patterns I've tried result in a .2 shift.

Yes I get the .2 shift also, but it just go back and correct it.
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Originally Posted by wmwilker View Post

No the 2.4 is correct. D-Nice and others had suggested using it to get a good 2.2. I did very little adjustment to get there except at the ends.

I understand what you guys are saying, but I go back and correct the gamma, as I said above. The reason why I don't do what D-Nice suggested is because I feel it holds the 100% IRE at 2.4.
However, with the new firmware I come in at about 2.24 because of the red tint in the low 10% IRE and making adjustments for it..

ss
post #348 of 1782
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Originally Posted by sillysally View Post

Yes I get the .2 shift also, but it just go back and correct it.
I understand what you guys are saying, but I go back and correct the gamma, as I said above. The reason why I don't do what D-Nice suggested is because I feel it holds the 100% IRE at 2.4.
However, with the new firmware I come in at about 2.24 because of the red tint in the low 10% IRE and making adjustments for it..
ss

I don't think so. Wouldn't the gamma trail up from 90 if it did hold 2.4?
post #349 of 1782
Hi

I am very interested in the Controlcal software but I am a little confused.

Do I need a licence?
How much does it cost?

I have downloaded the program but they is no option to connect via ethernet or wireless. Does this setting become available if I purchase the software?

I have a VT50, Will this allow me to controls not available via the tvs remote control?

cheers
post #350 of 1782
Hi jasjw,

Yes, I'll PM in regards to your first two questions..

What you downloaded is ControlCAL v1.50.. VT50 support is in a newer v2 Edition which is not a public download. ControlCAL v2 Editions support both the Serial and Network Interfaces and on the VT50, you can use either wifi or the ethernet port.

-Turbe
post #351 of 1782
Moneys sent!
post #352 of 1782
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Originally Posted by jasjw View Post

Hi
I am very interested in the Controlcal software but I am a little confused.
Do I need a licence?
How much does it cost?
I have downloaded the program but they is no option to connect via ethernet or wireless. Does this setting become available if I purchase the software?
I have a VT50, Will this allow me to controls not available via the tvs remote control?
cheers


You location shows UK....which probably means that you have the European version of the display, does it not?

Turbe....any compatibility problem?
post #353 of 1782
The Euro and UK models (including their control differences) are fully supported in the ControlCAL Panny v2 Edition.. in fact, more than half of my ControlCAL v2 Edition users with a VT30 or VT50 are in Europe or UK..
post #354 of 1782
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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

Hi jasjw,
Yes, I'll PM in regards to your first two questions..
What you downloaded is ControlCAL v1.50.. VT50 support is in a newer v2 Edition which is not a public download. ControlCAL v2 Editions support both the Serial and Network Interfaces and on the VT50, you can use either wifi or the ethernet port.
-Turbe

Thanks mate for the instant reply.

I'm intrigued by this software but just have a couple more question before I buy.

Do I need anything else apart from my VT50, Your software and a network?

Does it give access to the service menu to gain controls for THX cinema etc?

Is they an auto calibrate feature?

cheers
post #355 of 1782
ControlCAL 'talks to/controls' the display, not a meter. You can use ControlCAL standalone or with other calibration software like ColorFacts, ColorHCFR, CalMAN and/or ChromaPure. You can tweak your display by using discs as many users do or to properly calibrate the display you should considering getting a meter and other software as I mention in the last sentence. On the VT50, ControlCAL doesn't adjust the high/low controls in the SM for THX.. for the calibration controls it has, see the screencaps posted on my forum I linked in PM, you get instant access to the controls including the CMS and 10pt controls without fumbling with the display's menus using the owner's remote control.
post #356 of 1782
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Originally Posted by robbyrockets View Post

Is there a specific reason as to why everyone seems to use mid as the setting for panel brightness? Is it a personnel preference or is there an actual advantage when doing an isf calibration. I've always found the low setting to give me a cleaner noise free picture. It appears that my new VT50 has the same behavior my old PZ850U had when switching between mid and low. Any responses will be appreciated.

Before the new firmware update the day settings pretty much required PB Mid and Color 46. I need max output in the afternoon and my post FW update day settings include PB High and Color 50. The luminance controls, now working, make it possible. My max luminance is 46 Foot Lamberts whereas it was about 40 with PB Mid.
post #357 of 1782
Sorry if I am missing something but is controlcal just a quick way to enter your settings into the tv without going back and forth with a remote control?
post #358 of 1782
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Originally Posted by jasjw View Post

Sorry if I am missing something but is controlcal just a quick way to enter your settings into the tv without going back and forth with a remote control?

Yep. At first I was skeptical if I really needed it, but now I wouldn't want to calibrate my TV without it. What's especially nice is that it allows you to easily copy the settings across different inputs.
post #359 of 1782
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Originally Posted by jasjw View Post

Sorry if I am missing something but is controlcal just a quick way to enter your settings into the tv without going back and forth with a remote control?

It also opens the ISF Day and Night modes
post #360 of 1782
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Originally Posted by Tempest261 View Post

Yep. At first I was skeptical if I really needed it, but now I wouldn't want to calibrate my TV without it. What's especially nice is that it allows you to easily copy the settings across different inputs.

Arh ok, I don't have a meter to do a calibration so would I get any benefits from it?

I would defiantly buy it if it could make pro modes brighter on a uk vt50 but I believe it's not possible as its capped at 36.
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