The Official Panasonic VT50 Settings Thread - Page 17

Very welcome Sir

I switched to free software (HCFR) and I must say i like it much more then calman, but the results are the same.
Game averages at 2.08 with warm2 and 2.4 settings and 79 contrast and 57 brightness.
I am curious what makes it so low, but it is probably meter or something else as you all here get average 2.2.
I give up!!!

I attached controlcal settings just in case.


night.xml 3k .xml file

Have the 3D settings been posted?

hey guys... complete newbie when it comes to calibration. Can someone recommend the best software to purchase to calibrate my Panasonic plasma? I have a Spyder 4 colormeter. I've heard about chromapure, calman, and controlcal, but not entirely sure of the differences. Appreciate any help I can get!

read this:
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/diy/diy/diy-calibration-overview.html

Control cal is just (awesome piece of software) a software to send settings to the tv over the network so you don't have to use remote.

I highly recommend control cal.

I plan on calibrating a new 65VT50 next week. I just used D-Nice's break in slides for the 100 hour break-in. I can't find D-Nice's settings for the VT50 series. Am I missing something? If not D-Nice, whose settings would you recommend?

Thanks in advance.

Hey Turbe, I am planning on purchasing a 55" VT50 soon. I've seen some calibrated settings posted by some users who have received some positive feedback with their settings from other users. These settings were all entered into their VT50's using ControlCAL.

I have a question in regards to the input method that can be used with this software to get the television settings updated with the new calibrated settings. Can it be done using a wi-fi connection or does it have to be done using a serial, rs232, ethernet cable?

Also how much does it cost for a copy of the ControlCAL VT50 Edition v2? What are the payment methods and how does one receive their copy? IE an electronic download or do they receive an installation disc by mail, etc?

I appreciate all info that you can share with me in regards to ControlCAL.

Cheers,
J-Dogg

Yes, ControlCAL v2 Editions supports both Serial and Network Interfaces.. on the VT50, there is no Serial Port (Panasonic made the decision to remove it this year, a mistake IMO) so your option is Network (you can use the VT50's Ethernet Port or Wifi).

I'll PM you additional info.

I like the network wifi as it eliminates one of the many cables.....and it's kinda cool.

Hey guys, pretty new to the forum here and a complete newbee when it comes to picture settings of my newly bought VT-50.

I would really like to try out the custom settings Topper has so kindly posted, but I don't see any custom mode in the picture settings when I enter the main menu.
FYI I live in Sweden, so this may be the reason I see a different menu?

On top of that there's very little that can be used from the settings in Topper's list with the available modes I see in the picture menu (THX, Sports etc.).

Any advice on how to solve this will be welcomed...

P.S. Yesterday I saw the Dark Shadows bluray with Johnny Depp in thx-mode and it blew my mind... The VT-50 is a great TV....
Edited by Zapp187 - 9/4/12 at 5:49am

North American version has a different menu than a Euro version, so are setting will not work for a non-North American version of the VT50.

ss

SillySally, do you have your calibration settings posted in an xml format? I would love to give your calibration a try compared to toppers using controcal

Hi Guys,

I was hoping someone would have any answers to help me. I live in the UAE and bought a 65VT50 - M ( The manual says that this covers all VT Ranges from DKMPT). Unfortunately I can find anyone to calibrate my TV in the UAE and am pretty upset that after spending close to $4k i cant fully utilize and enjoy my VT50 to the best of its ability. I tried using some of the settings that some of the members have so kindly posted, but the issue is that my scales are diffrent, i.e my brightness range is from -50 to 50+, this makes it impossible to copy the settings.

Another issue is I cant buy the hardware required for Calman in the UAE so even if i wanted to learn how to do a calibration myself and take the plunge it would be impossible to do so.
Any ideas, what I can do, am in a real fix here!!

I dont know how the calman works but would it be possible if i downloaded the software and used the calibration report that some of you have so kindly posted and try and manually acheive similar graphs, I know this isnt ideal, but do i have other choices?

Sorry I just have what you see when you click on my link. All of the settings are in the charts/grafts that also show the raw numbers, plus I like the results of using color temp Normal better than Warm2.

I think "wmwilker" has posted his Custom settings for the VT50, you may want to try those as well. He also uses professorial grade calibration software/hardware.

ss
Edited by sillysally - 9/5/12 at 1:23am

Thanks, it's what I thought... Oh well, will try to live with the menu I've got.

Check with Chromapure.com

Hardware wise, I'd recommend getting both a i1pro2 and an i1display3.

Thanks Jim,

Appreciate your help, my issue is that the hardware is not available in the UAE and secondly even if i got the hardware I wouldnt know what to do with it. Is there a software I can buy/download which would be able to help me calibrate.

Hi there, great thread,

I live in Europe and think of buying a VT50 or ST50

Has anyone posted good calibration settings for the ST maybe even german STW Model so far, that I could give a chance?

Thank you pretty much. I just want to test 2-3 different calibrated settings as soon as I decided what model I will buy

Are there some settings pinned somewhere?

A list with Models and calibrated settings would be perfect.

Like 50VT50 Europe
55VT50 North-America, etc.
Would be great to have a list with all models (ST, STW, VT, GT....)

Do we have something like that?
Edited by Machtmensch - 9/5/12 at 5:13am

Calibrators

Are you finding with the VT50, that a certain sequences of adjusting color management (lightness, saturation, hue) among primaries and secondaries work best?

Or asked another way....how you go about adjusting measuring and adjusting the color management settings?

Xrite EODIS3 i1Display Pro Colorimeter / Calibrator $199

is this a good any good. I am looking to buy one for my vt50 calibration. Noob here.

If I don't think and pay attention to the details, I can't really tell the different between 60 and 96. In some occasions, I feel that 96 produces smoother pictures, but the drawback is: VIDEO DELAY.

Video delay seems to happen on 24fps output. It happens on my old Pioneer Plasma, my last year model Samsung LED TV, and almost all of my friends TV. Not sure whether it's the problem of the TVs or the sources. I have tried different HTPC, media players, etc etc, all seems to produce certain level of video delay.

Question on various posted calibration settings:
I am currently using D. Katzmaier's settings from cnet:
http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-564711/panasonic-tc-p65vt50-picture-settings/?tag=StickyWin_1338818924521;createThreadPopup

The picture does look amazing with these settings, but I was wondering if anyone else compared these with other posted settings in this thread? I know a few calibrators posted their settings, and I am also aware the settings depend on the set, but if anyone tried out/compared the different posted calibrations, I'd love to hear about your experience with them and which one worked/looked the best for you... Does anyone have the settings used by Jeff Meier (since he is regarded so highly in this thread)?

Thanks!

Yes I have them, and yes they are good generic settings. However I think it is against AVS rules to post or PM any settings other than the person that made the calibration settings.
And also there is the question as buzzard767 pointed out, settings for the VT50 iho do not transfer well. If this is true and it may very well be true, most calibrators are not willing to post there settings for that reason. Of-course there is the consumers point of view, let me try them and if they are something I like I will buy the calibrators time and have the calibrator customize his setting for my display.

imo don't just focus on one calibrator, look for well regarded calibrators (yes Jeff is well regarded) that have already done some VT50's.

ss
Edited by sillysally - 9/9/12 at 1:05am

In isf mode I do a full 10pt grayscale, brightness, contest and color setting always leaving sharpness at 0. Then I do a CMS, starting with Green and Red get them within range of my goal without going over board on moving Green and Red to much, then go to Blue. Once I get blue in range, I first go back to Green and then Red, then fine tune all three primary's using only small changes in my settings. Then the secondaries starting with Cyan and Magenta getting them in close range (same as with primary's), then get Yellow in range and bring all of the secondaries where I want them. Once I am happy with the settings I bring the primary's and secondary's all in line with each other(small changes). Go back tweak the grayscale and then recheck my CMS settings, if necessary tweak the CMS settings and then make sure my grayscale is still where I want it. Then recheck my Brightness and Contrast settings, Contrast should not need any tweaking but brightness may need a 1 or 2 point adjustment.
imo the key is don't make any wild adjustments with CMS in hopes of getting a problematic P or S in line, if you do chances are you will end up with a real mess. That being the case start the CMS from scratch once more.

ss
Edited by sillysally - 9/9/12 at 1:46am

SS

Thanks for posting.

Given how much my display has shifted in the two months I've had it, I can't help but believe that settings are not only individual, but will substantially change. Case specific, even after the 100 hour panel prep, my THX bright room looked awful. Couldn't imagine why anyone would want to use it and figured the whole THX thing was an empty credential. But now, with only adjusting brightness, contrast and color.....it looks pretty good.

As for sequence of calibrating CMS, I've read that you do primaries brightness and then secondary's hue, then go back and do the rest of it for primaries and secondaries. I always have to go back and change back earlier settings and though that there has to be a better way.

I'm going to give it another go once Chromapure releases it's 2.3 upgrade as it accesses the APL patterns in my Accupel signal generator. Given the agressiveness of the VT50s brightness limiter, I think it's screwing with my settings. It'll measure that I've got a gamma of around 1 when visually it's obvious that it's somewhere between 2 and 2.3. I'm trying to target peak white at 40 ft lamberts which I'm sure is part of the problem there. Something else I'd like to try out is to use the gamma module in Chromapure (set on continuous) to adjust 10 pt grayscale. Rather than adjusting RGB to match each other, adjust them to match each other at the correct gamma level. i.e. say blue is 20% up, rather than lowering blue 20% watch the gamma and raise/lower RGB to where it's correct on the Gamma chart. It would seem to me that gamma and grayscale are interwoven and it'd be more efficient to do as much as possible in the grayscale to include gamma correction. Thoughts????

Setting gamma @ 2.2 in UM and do an gamma measure in CP after that adjust every 10pnt 0%-100% with RGB up/down TOGETHER to mark the dot @ 2.2

Keep in mind that Green (grayscale) has the most influence on gamma from 0-100%

Eventually CMS also reacts on this.

"Pingpong" between these back and forward can lead to start all over again:D

Its a learning process which I am also have a constant battle :banghead:

SS
Thanks for your reply. I just figured since the true calibration still has to be performed on each individual set, it would provide rather a good starting point. Sure, I can understand the policy of not posting other calibrator's settings, makes sense. I am actually getting my VT50 calibrated anyway by a professional (who has calibrated my VT30 previously too and did a great job) in a couple more weeks, so trying out Jeff Meier's settings until then would have been kinda nice for comparison, that's all.

BTW, Katzmaier's settings have translated rather well to my set. I am quite happy with the PQ, color accuracy, etc. already. I can imagine the PQ after getting proper calibration on my set... Can't wait

I did try Topper's settings too, and those on the other hand didn't translate well at all (way over-saturated on reds), I'm sure they are great settings on the set Topper actually calibrated, which goes to confirm your theory that the settings don't always translate well from set to set...

Thanks to all calibrators who post and share their settings, which are often a great starting point, especially if you are still waiting for your professional calibration...

One other question (and I apologize if this may have been already discussed before):
Certainly many have commented on the issue of floating blacks and the brightness fluctuation on VT50's. I have initially noticed it on my VT50, and I must say it was not only noticeable, but rather extreme. From 1080i source I observed some scenes where it almost looked like a strobo effect, it was that bad! Definitely much worse than the VT30 even, whereas I think most of us expected Panasonic to fix (or at least much improve) this issue, instead they apparently made it even worse.
So my question is: What is the best setting (or the one setting most influential on this issue) that can help reduce the floating blacks? Using cnet's (Katzmaier) settings it seems to have gotten quite a bit better, tho didn't disappear entirely. I noticed AGC is set to zero in his settings, which would seem to make sense for improvement of the brightness fluctuation.

Any other experiences on what works best to get this issue somewhat under control? Any expectations that Panasonic might do some firmware adjustments at some point too?

Thanks!

I am coming from a VT25 (rampant floating blacks), and have not noticed one instance of the VT50 floating blacks. I have gotten very good at not only seeing them, but knowing the conditions (scenes) during which blacks are floated, and the issue has been corrected in the VT50.