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post #751 of 1782
12/29/12 at 9:19am
Sorry for the noob question, but having issues with my settings.

1) when trying to modify the thx cinema or bright room settings to match wmwilker's settings, my pro settings are greyed out? I assume I modify these for day/night, right?

2) when using "custom" my 1080p pure direct and 24p direct in is greyed out. Why?

Help is much appreciated!
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post #752 of 1782
12/29/12 at 9:23am
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Originally Posted by mscappa View Post

Sorry for the noob question, but having issues with my settings.
1) when trying to modify the thx cinema or bright room settings to match wmwilker's settings, my pro settings are greyed out? I assume I modify these for day/night, right?
2) when using "custom" my 1080p pure direct and 24p direct in is greyed out. Why?
Help is much appreciated!

You need software like ControlCal to unlock the ISF modes to use these settings.
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post #753 of 1782
12/29/12 at 9:45am
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Originally Posted by mscappa View Post

Sorry for the noob question, but having issues with my settings.
1) when trying to modify the thx cinema or bright room settings to match wmwilker's settings, my pro settings are greyed out? I assume I modify these for day/night, right?
2) when using "custom" my 1080p pure direct and 24p direct in is greyed out. Why?
Help is much appreciated!

THX Picture Modes are based off a different Profile than the ISFccc Interface.

for #2, what Input signal do you have current coming in to your VT50? You need 1080p for those options (/24 for 24p direct in).
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post #754 of 1782
12/29/12 at 9:45am
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Originally Posted by mscappa View Post

Sorry for the noob question, but having issues with my settings.
1) when trying to modify the thx cinema or bright room settings to match wmwilker's settings, my pro settings are greyed out? I assume I modify these for day/night, right?
2) when using "custom" my 1080p pure direct and 24p direct in is greyed out. Why?
Help is much appreciated!

Use Custom. The 24p and Pure Direct will be greyed out unless there is a 24p signal being fed to the set. Use your Blu-ray player and they should be available. Once you set them you can ignore them unless you change them.

Nevermind Turbre is way ahead of me smile.gif
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post #755 of 1782
12/29/12 at 10:54am
wmwilker,

Do you have a custom configuration for 3D viewing yet?

Your regular 2D custom config looks excellent on my 55" VT50 biggrin.gif
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post #756 of 1782
12/29/12 at 11:15am
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Originally Posted by mscappa View Post

These looked pretty good for me! http://www.hometheater.com/content/panasonic-tc-p65vt50-3d-plasma-hdtv-settings

I agree. I just applied the 2D settings today and popped in Avatar and WOW what a difference from my tweaked THX settings, which I still thought looked good. I set the black level to "dark" vs "light" which is not addressed in the above setting. I thought "black" looked best when watching a blue ray movie.

That being said, I don't think regular HDTV viewing looked as good on the Custom setting as it does on my THX setting. Presumably this is due to poor signal/transmission quality when watching some HDTV content.
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post #757 of 1782
12/29/12 at 5:34pm
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Originally Posted by cssnms View Post

I agree. I just applied the 2D settings today and popped in Avatar and WOW what a difference from my tweaked THX settings, which I still thought looked good. I set the black level to "dark" vs "light" which is not addressed in the above setting. I thought "black" looked best when watching a blue ray movie.
That being said, I don't think regular HDTV viewing looked as good on the Custom setting as it does on my THX setting. Presumably this is due to poor signal/transmission quality when watching some HDTV content.


It is better to set your black level to "Light" as dark tends to crush blacks - even though it may seemingly look better at first.
switch back and forth between them while watching something dark and you will notice that you loose detail in dark areas using the "dark" setting.

This setting was addressed in the above article, but it is incorrectly listed under "1080p pure direct".


I'm currently trying out both the 2D and 3D configurations from HomeTheater.com, and while I think that they look pretty good overall, I do find the colours for both to be a little washed out on my particular VT50.


wmwilker's 2D setting have easily been the best that I've tried so far on my VT50. I only hope that he comes up with a 3D set as well.
Edited by jamiee - 12/29/12 at 6:31pm
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post #758 of 1782
12/29/12 at 5:43pm
I went back to the beginning of the thread looking for wmwilker's settings but It looked like the most recent day settings were posted as an XML file. Any way to list the settings in the thread? I don't yet have the controlcal program to use the attachments. Thanks
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post #759 of 1782
12/29/12 at 5:49pm
TSollecito, just open the xml file in a text editor...
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post #760 of 1782
12/29/12 at 6:28pm
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Originally Posted by TSollecito View Post

I went back to the beginning of the thread looking for wmwilker's settings but It looked like the most recent day settings were posted as an XML file. Any way to list the settings in the thread? I don't yet have the controlcal program to use the attachments. Thanks

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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

TSollecito, just open the xml file in a text editor...


I used WordPad to access the file. But you could also use MS Word or open the file as a TXT Document... whatever works and keeps the original formatting fairly clean.

The xml formatting can be a little tricky to read and not all of it is in order as per the VT50's menu structure. So just take you time and go over everything a couple of times and you should be good to go smile.gif
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post #761 of 1782
12/29/12 at 6:52pm
Thanks guys...what would be the best way to view this on a Mac?
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post #762 of 1782
12/29/12 at 6:55pm
Check out TextWrangler for OSX, it's the light version of BBEdit
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post #763 of 1782
12/29/12 at 10:08pm
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Originally Posted by jamiee View Post

It is better to set your black level to "Light" as dark tends to crush blacks - even though it may seemingly look better at first.
switch back and forth between them while watching something dark and you will notice that you loose detail in dark areas using the "dark" setting.
This setting was addressed in the above article, but it is incorrectly listed under "1080p pure direct".
I'm currently trying out both the 2D and 3D configurations from HomeTheater.com, and while I think that they look pretty good overall, I do find the colours for both to be a little washed out on my particular VT50.
wmwilker's 2D setting have easily been the best that I've tried so far on my VT50. I only hope that he comes up with a 3D set as well.

The problem with the hometheater.com settings is they were posted before the update that fixed the luminescence controls around the beginning of August. Those settings and the CNET settings should be avoided at this point. Any of the posted settings that were done with calibration tools after that update should be more accurate.
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post #764 of 1782
12/30/12 at 8:34am
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Originally Posted by jamiee View Post

wmwilker,
Do you have a custom configuration for 3D viewing yet?
Your regular 2D custom config looks excellent on my 55" VT50 biggrin.gif

Not yet but I plan to soon
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post #765 of 1782
12/30/12 at 2:45pm
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Originally Posted by robnix View Post

The problem with the hometheater.com settings is they were posted before the update that fixed the luminescence controls around the beginning of August. Those settings and the CNET settings should be avoided at this point. Any of the posted settings that were done with calibration tools after that update should be more accurate.

It's funny you should mention that, as I was just thinking that these were likely done before the latest firmware release from Panasonic.

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Originally Posted by wmwilker View Post

Not yet but I plan to soon

Looking forward to it !
(preferably a night profile) wink.gif
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post #766 of 1782
12/30/12 at 3:26pm
Just got ControlCal and its working great. I've activated the ISF day and night modes and sent some settings over. Is there a setting that will allow me to adjust ISF from the remote on the TV? Right now everything is grayed out and says ISF fixed
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post #767 of 1782
12/30/12 at 3:31pm
^^^

Not on your model, to make subsequent adjustments for the ISF modes, use ControlCAL..
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post #768 of 1782
12/30/12 at 6:13pm
Hello I'm curious if you would recommend controlcal to perfrm lots of setting adjustments for a non calibrator such as myself that would just like to fiddle with some of the settings in this thread? If so, what's the cost for a vt50 version?

Also is it ipad compatible by chance?

And, can you wirelessly update the settings?


Appreciate any input
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post #769 of 1782
12/30/12 at 6:51pm
For adjustments, yes and especially for those who like to fiddle or to do a proper calibration for best results.... you get instant access to all those controls without the frustrations from navigating the display's menu. ControlCAL requires Windows XP to Windows 8 and the Network Interface is supported (for both the VT50's WIFI and Ethernet Port).
Edited by turbe - 12/30/12 at 6:57pm
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post #770 of 1782
12/30/12 at 7:16pm
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Originally Posted by turbe View Post

For adjustments, yes and especially for those who like to fiddle or to do a proper calibration for best results.... you get instant access to all those controls without the frustrations from navigating the display's menu. ControlCAL requires Windows XP to Windows 8 and the Network Interface is supported (for both the VT50's WIFI and Ethernet Port).

Oh that is great news. I'm going to consider this one of those tools that protects marriages. The second the menu pops up on the screen I normally lose a few marriage points =]
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post #771 of 1782
12/31/12 at 6:31am
I just wanted to give a shout out to Chad B. He calibrated my VT50 a few weeks ago. Since then I have watched many movies both Bluray and DVD. I have to say that the picture has definitely been upgraded! The colors are rich and pristine. The blacks are deep and inky with a clarity, purity and brightness that is truly amazing. I had been using settings from these pages. While those settings were an improvement over the out of the box settings, they are no where near to what Chad B was able to achieve on my VT50. When I compared his ISF calibration to the factory THX setting, it was like taking off a pair of sunglasses. Do yourself a favor. If you are lucky enough to be in a city where he tours, schedule a calibration. You won’t regret it. I'm a very happy guy right now. smile.gif
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post #772 of 1782
12/31/12 at 7:41am
I saw these settings on the first page. Are these wmwilker's latest settings? I haven't searched through the thread to find if there was an update but I was hoping that he would just edit his post on the first page.
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Originally Posted by wmwilker View Post

First of all I want to say these are some initial settings I've come up on my 65VT50. I'm sure as I get more hours on the set it will change.
These settings are from my display and would need to be tweaked on a different display
I came up with these settings using an i1 Pro and ChromaPure. The i1 Pro is not very good at low levels and at 10% my de was about 4. That reading may or may not be accurate. 20% was less than 2de but the rest of the grayscale was less than 1%. The ftL was 36 which would be somewhat dull in a bright room.

Here are the settings:


Picture mode - Custom

Contrast - 81

Brightness - 54

Color - 50

Tint - 0

Sharpness - +6

Color temp - Warm 2

CATS - Off

Pro Settings:

Color Space - Normal

W/B high R - +3

W/B high G - 0

W/B high B - +2

W/B low R - -1

W/B low G - -1

W/B low B - -1

W/B detail adjustment (you may or may not want to mess with these.)

Input signal level 10 IRE

R - +5

G - 0

B - +2

20 IRE

R - +6

G - 0

B - -1

30 IRE

R - +4

G - 0

B - 0

40 IRE

R - +2

G - 0

B - +3

50 IRE

R - +1

G - 0

B - +2

60 IRE

R - 0

G - 0

B - 0

70 IRE

R- 0

G - 0

B - +1

80 IRE

R - -2

G - 0

B - +1

90 IRE

R - -2

G - +1

B - +1

100 IRE

R - -1

G - +2

B - +1


Red hue - -3

Green hue - +16

Blue hue - +6

Red saturation - -7

Green saturation - +19

Blue saturation - +11

Color detail adjustment

Yellow hue - +1

Cyan hue - +5

Magenta hue - -1

Yellow saturation - +1

Cyan saturation - 0

Magenta saturation - -5


Leave all the luminance settings at 0


Black extension - 0

Gamma adjustment - 2.4

Panel Brightness = Mid

Contour emphasis - Off

AGC - 0

Gamma detail adjustment

Input signal level

10 IRE Gain - -7

20 IRE Gain - -3

30 IRE Gain - 0

40 IRE Gain - -1

50 IRE Gain - -2

60 IRE Gain - 0

70 IRE Gain - 0

80 IRE Gain - -1

90 IRE Gain - -1

100 IRE Gain - 0


I have my HDMI range at Auto with Content at Auto

Motion smoother - Off

1080p pure direct - On

Black level - Light


I welcome any comments and criticism(I think
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post #773 of 1782
12/31/12 at 8:16am
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Originally Posted by Mac13 View Post

I saw these settings on the first page. Are these wmwilker's latest settings? I haven't searched through the thread to find if there was an update but I was hoping that he would just edit his post on the first page.

Check post #373
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post #774 of 1782
12/31/12 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by jcavila View Post

I just wanted to give a shout out to Chad B. He calibrated my VT50 a few weeks ago.
Thanks for your calibration report. I've included it in the flat panel (Post#2) lists that are linked in the signature area at the bottom of my post.
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post #775 of 1782
12/31/12 at 12:50pm
How much does a typical calibration cost? I think BB offered a free one but I'm not sure if they would be any good. Are there any recommended calibrators in the Rhode Island area?
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post #776 of 1782
12/31/12 at 12:55pm
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Originally Posted by TSollecito View Post

How much does a typical calibration cost? I think BB offered a free one but I'm not sure if they would be any good. Are there any recommended calibrators in the Rhode Island area?
You can use the links in the signature area at the bottom of my post for reviews and location information.
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post #777 of 1782
12/31/12 at 2:52pm
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Originally Posted by TSollecito View Post

How much does a typical calibration cost? I think BB offered a free one but I'm not sure if they would be any good. Are there any recommended calibrators in the Rhode Island area?

$350 - $500

Besides Jeff Meier, Chris Eberle at Precision Video and Chad Billheimer, D-Nice (email below) and Kevin Miller (Ferry Trip form Long Island?) may also cover that area.


Also check with Zygmunt Wojewoda at Perfect Home Theater and Ken Whitcomb at Calibrations, Inc.

D-Nice's email

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post #778 of 1782
12/31/12 at 8:08pm
Just moved my VT50 to the game/theater room at the new house. I've got a 55 inch set and didn't know if you guys had a link to some recommended settings? I've not changed anything since my initial calibration which was pretty close to the Hometheater.com settings (a few minor differences). I've since updated the firmware and the set is in a darker room. Looking for a decent starting point and then in another couple weeks, once we settle in, I'll run a second calibration on the set.
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post #779 of 1782
1/1/13 at 8:03am
For a 55" in a dark room, you might want to use a gamma setting of 2.6.
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post #780 of 1782
1/1/13 at 11:34am
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For a 55" in a dark room, you might want to use a gamma setting of 2.6.

Why is that?
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